Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I wish something could be done when you cancel out of email you want to make 
and you go to delete it it still shows up as a draft.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> You can just download it from the App Store. The direct URL is 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-outlook/id951937596
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 1:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> What do you do to download Outlook! I wouldn't know how to start, but it is 
> the devil I know. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> I agree with Christopher. If I'm remembering correctly, the focus issue with 
> the native Mail app started with some iteration of iOS 13. I started using 
> Outlook for iOS then and am so glad I did. It doesn’t have the focus issues 
> and I've used Outlook on my Windows desktop for years. I suggest you try 
> Outlook for iOS. It's free so trying it is easy and you can decide whether 
> the native Mail app is still preferable. I open the native Mail app from time 
> to time to see if it's any better but quickly return to Outlook for iOS.
> 
> Alan Lemly  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Christopher Chaltain 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:52:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1 
> 
> I know it's already been mentioned, but this is why I switched to Outlook on 
> my iPhones.
> 
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> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Who is saying that the ScrollBar is the problem?
> 
> And, if that is the problem, why can't Apple make that optional.  I would 
> much rather do without the ScrollBar if loosing my place in the giant fat 
> middle of a long list of mail could be resolved.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> You are not alone with your frustration with the mail app. The problem & 
> cause of the hair pulling, & loud swearing, is the useless scrollbar!!! If 
> Apple wants to keep it, because some people want the scrollbar, make it an 
> option that can be selected or left alone in the depths of HE郎郎 for those of 
> us that find the scrollbar a only a pain in the A郎郎! Oh, lets not forget the 
> emails that won’t delete unless a magic trick is performed!郎郎
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Excuse me while I vent, as I’ve become increasingly frustrated with the 
>> native IOS mail app.  I’ve been using iPhones since the iphone 4  came along 
>> in 2010 or 2011, and I’ve used Mail with my GMail account, which has been 
>> around since 2007.
>> Over the years there have always been focus issues in message lists, and 
>> when ovening message threads for the first time I will rarely land on 
>> message 1. Then, when opening a message in the thread and using the Messages 
>> item in the  rotor to move to the next message, I may get bounced back to a 
>> message that’s way earlier in the thread than the one that I intended to 
>> move to. For example, let’s say I’m on message 50 of 120 in the thread. I 
>> use Messages in the  rotor and select Next Message. In this example, I might 
>> get bounced back to Message 21. 
>> These are just a couple of situations that are frustrating me like crazy.
>> I could try the GMail app or Outlook for Ios, but I like the native mail app 
>> for the most part and am realy surprised that Apple hasn’t managed to make 
>> the damn thing behave. 
>> Surely I’m not the only one who’s having focus issues such as I’ve described 
>> above.
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RE: new phone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi enjoy your SE, that's the next phone I want to get when its time for me to 
get another phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sharon Morton
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new phone

Thanks for all your advice. I am going with the SE. Rodgers gave me a great 
deal.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new phone

I have my phone set to not lock because I don't want to have to keep unlocking 
it.  I want to control whether my phone is locked or not myself.

On 4/1/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Right about unlocked screen. I have mine set on no automatic, so have 
> to be vigilant. I charge mine every other day most of the time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 8:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new phone
>
> I'm looking forward to when I get my new iPhone to see if a newer 
> battery will work for me better then my 8.  I usually charge the 
> battery once per day.  If I'm not using my iPhone but still have it 
> on, I find that if I lock my iPhone the battery stays charged better.
> If I leave my iPhone unlocked the battery drains rather quickly.
>
> On 3/31/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Goodness, I think I am spoiled to my 11's battery.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new phone
>>
>> Agree
>>
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>
>>  Le 31 mars 2021 à 14:33, Brad Snyder  a écrit :
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  
>>  The SE 2020 is a nice phone, but it's a bottom of the line phone 
>> with low end components. The battery in the SE 2020 definitely does 
>> not have the same capacity as the higher end iPhone 11.
>>  This is the trade-off you make by going with the lower-priced phone.
>>  
>>  
>>  - Brad -
>>
>>  On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:54, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  I’m not sure what you mean here.
>>
>>  You said concerning battery “I have SE 2020 and 11 for work and it's 
>> not comparable...”
>>
>>  
>>
>>  What isn’t comparable?
>>
>>  I know the 11 has a larger battery, but I use my SE 2020 a lot 
>> during the day and if I have to charge it at night I do, but I often 
>> get a full day’s use and often don’t need to charge it until the second day.
>>
>>  I play a couple simple games, do lots of email, web searching, 
>> listening to books, etc.
>>
>>  Or are you saying they are both way better than the iPhone X’s then 
>> yes, they are.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  My web site, www.turner42.com 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:48 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Re: new phone
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Hello,
>>
>>  my opinion is not also positive if we think about battery. I have SE
>> 2020 and 11 for work and it's not comparable...
>>
>>  Lyne
>>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  Le 31 mars 2021 à 13:23, Brad Snyder >  > a écrit :
>>
>>  I’ve never heard of a "10 XP”.  Perhaps you are meaning the 
>> iPhone 
>> XR, which is already several iterations old, and I don’t recommend 
>> getting this one.
>>
>>  The iPhone SE 2020 is a solid choice.  My wife has one, and I 
>> say 
>> you can’t go wrong with this choice, if you want to go with a basic 
>> iPhone that still uses a Home button.
>>
>>  As Richard pointed out, the SE 2020 is the same size as the 
>> iPhone 
>> 7 and 8, and your 6S as well, though a case for the older models 
>> won’t fit the newer SE 2020 correctly, because the camera bump is 
>> slightly larger on the newer SE 2020.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  HTH.
>>
>>  
>>  - Brad -
>>
>>  
>>
>>  On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:12, Sharon Morton >  > wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Hello, I am coming to the end of a contract with Virgin, and my 
>> 6S.
>> I have been offered a deal with Rogers for an 10 XP. I would like to 
>> know what your opinion is on this phone, compared to an SE 2020.
>> Thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>>

RE: Recording on an iPhone.

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I think its in the utilities menu.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recording on an iPhone.

I use the voice memo ap on my phone and it works well, with very easy controls.
Check it out,
Danney
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recording on an iPhone.

How do you record on the iPhone, please? 

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Re: explanation

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Are you able to share the file,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello list
>  
> Can somebody tell me if there is away how to transfer a voice message in 
> Whatsapp to a pc via email and if so, can you please explain to me how to do 
> it?
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Anthony
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Re: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Supersense developers and apple.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard,
>  
> I agree that Supersense saying each Dropbox folder is in iCloud makes 
> absolutely no sense but it does that for me too. I'm not sure who to report 
> such a Voiceover anomaly to.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense
>  
> So, does it make sense that after getting Dropbox turned on in SuperSense, 
> (Thanks Malcolm) that when I open dropbox from supersense's dropbox option 
> that each dropbox folder says "in iCloud?"
> Confusedly yours,
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Malcolm. I think I must have used your method at least once but with 
> my aging brain, my memory seems to forget a lot more than it retains. When I 
> followed your steps and selected the Import PDF option, the browse screen 
> which opened was already on iCloud drive. All I had to do was go back one 
> screen and Dropbox was available there as I swiped right. This should save a 
> good bit of time when I do this in the future.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense
>  
> This is how I got Supersense to import a pdf stored on my Dropbox.
>  
> Launch Supersense and choose Import Image or PDF.
>  
>  
> Now select import pdf.
>  
> You will have a browser window open like Apple’s Files App.
>  
> Locate the More button and double-tap this.
>  
> You should have a list of available options that you can enable.disable.
>  
> One of these should be Dropbox and by default on my iPhone it was not 
> enabled.  After you reach Dropbox, swipe right and it should say off on yours 
> too.  You can double tap here to turn it on.
>  
> Select Done and Dropbox should have been added to your import from list.
>  
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Mar 2021, at 16:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Alan,
> That is a great issue you have found with SuperSense.  It has lots of apps 
> you can import from, some that make no sense at all, but no Dropbox.
> First, write to them through the app and request Dropbox access.
>  
> They default to iCloud, though OneDrive is another possibility.
>  
> Have you tried triple tapping on the file in DropBox and select share and if 
> needed whatever it says for more than what is listed and see if supersense is 
> in there?
>  
> Let us know if you get it to work.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:49 AM
> To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
> Subject: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I'll admit up front that I'm a bit old school and prefer using my desktop 
> computer to do most of my email. I often get scanned PDF image files that I 
> want to run OCR on while preserving as much formatting as possible. I will 
> save these attachment images to an applicable Dropbox folder on my computer 
> so I can still access them with my iPhone SE 2020. I know I can use Voice 
> Dream Reader/Scanner to get the text read to me from these image PDFs but I 
> want to see how Supersense handles them. I've been unable to figure out how 
> to do this with Supersense so I'm asking the experts here.
>  
> I know Supersense has an import option but I could find no way using it to 
> access files in a Dropbox folder. I also tried going to the Dropbox app on my 
> iPhone and attempting to share the particular file with Supersense but 
> couldn't figure out how to do it. Even if Supersense has a way to import 
> files in a Dropbox folder, I'm not sure it will allow me to share the post 
> OCR version back to Dropbox.
>  
> Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.
>  
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RE: I think we're getting spammed

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Delete them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I think we're getting spammed

I was getting the same messages as well! What do we do about this? Esther P. S. 
I just deleted them without even opening them. I knew enough to do that, thank 
goodness!


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Mar 8, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:



 

Yes, I was thinking the same thing, as I keep getting top posts from 
this person.




Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do 
nothing.
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On 3/8/2021 1:32 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:


I think we’re getting spammed by some one called Frank Youk.

 

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ringtones question

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I was wondering is there a way to take a ringtone and convert it to mp3
from m4r?

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RE: Does anyone know how to create an event on Facebook using your personal profile on IPad/IPhone??

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Well Eleanor, I would assume it’s the same on the phone as it is on the 
computer. I don't know about the app or if you would do this in safari but you 
would flick to where it says events if you are logged into your account, there 
should be a add event and you would just have to fill in your event info and 
just choose done or next or save.

-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 4:40 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; VIphone
Subject: Does anyone know how to create an event on Facebook using your 
personal profile on IPad/IPhone??

Hi all 

Just wondering if anyone could help with this please. I’ve got an event coming 
up and would like to create it on Facebook. I don’t have a Facebook page of any 
sort, just my own personal profile. So just wondered if anyone could send me 
some instructions on how to create a Facebook event using my personal profile 
please?? I’d be creating it using my IPad or IPhone, not computer. 

Many thanks for any help anyone can give. 

Eleanor 

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RE: Zoom and iPhone question

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

*9 for raising hand not *1.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: February 11, 2021 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom and iPhone question

On phone Zoom, *1 is to raise your hand. *6 is to unmute. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,

I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.

 

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14

 

 

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RE: Question About Sound When Plugging Cord Into Phone

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Did you check your mute switch maybe you put it on accidentally.

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Shirley Baker
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Subject: Question About Sound When Plugging Cord Into Phone

I have a 6S plus phone. I need to know how to get the sound back when you plug 
the wire into the phone when charging it. It vibrates but I don’t get the 
sound. What do I do to get that back please?

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RE: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Appointments you go to either every couple of weeks or months.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: January 30, 2021 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?

What's meant by Recurring Appoinments? because in my exploring of FantastiCal, 
I have been able to set events for every year, for instance.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 30 ene 2021, a la(s) 11:56 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Yes, and I'm not even sure you can do reoccurring appointments with the free 
> Fantastical.
> It is such a shame that they had to go to the over-priced subscription model.
> But, since this is a business, I understand their need for an income stream 
> that is somewhat predictable.
> I just don't see how any calendar function is worth paying for since Apple's 
> native Calendar has gotten so much better.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I could find no lifetime subscription for Fantastical at this website:
> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fflexibits.com%2Ffantastical%2Fpricingdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33f88abd564f4a2aa55808d8c545f2a0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637476251498039810%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=htjOpLsO0OcirW6uPhactemDCui26c%2F1tjf%2FRqoVnNA%3Dreserved=0
> 
> If one is so inclined to sign up for Fantastical premium, they can elect to 
> be billed annually which works out to $3.33 per month or be billed $4.99 
> monthly. I agree with you that what is provided for the premium subscription 
> isn't worth the cost. The above link provides a side by side feature 
> comparison between the free and premium Fantastical.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?
> 
> Well, I don't know if there is a life time subscription.  I think there is a 
> monthly and yearly but no life time and to me, it is unreasonable to pay $40 
> or $60 per year for features that mostly are already in the native Calendar 
> app, and now, are more easily done in the native Calendar app.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33f88abd564f4a2aa55808d8c545f2a0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637476251498039810%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=orVeE3F7HEaKt6YCObupxwAQwNPj2TfQbOTcY1%2FexIY%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?
> 
> I decided to take ahcnace on it via the free tier, thus I imagine if I set 
> the event every year, it�d automaticaly mark it as a birthday?
> I�m curious if you who bought it, don�t you get a continuing lifetime 
> subscription? I�d ask just to be sure, because I would have liked for the 
> integration of the Calendar and Reminders in one app!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 30 ene 2021, a la(s) 8:21 a.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribi�:
>> 
>> ?I used to use Fantastical and loved it until they went to the bloody 
>> subscription model and changed the interface. 
>> I'm not sure you can do what you want.
>> After putting in the calendar event in Fantastical, open the native calendar 
>> and edit that event and set it as a yearly event as a birthday.
>> I had deleted Fantastical months ago, and just downloaded it again to see 
>> what it is like now.
>> I will be deleting it again.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
 On Jan 30, 2021, at 6:08 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Really loving the feel and interface of Fantastical!; I�m 

Re: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Thank you mike That did the trick.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Mike B  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Simon,
>  
> Open Voiceover / Verboscity, swipe to, Container descriptions, and set this 
> to, do nothing.
> 
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020
> 
> How do I change it from saying conversation.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Get out of the conversation and tap on the conversation and flick down until 
>> you hear show alerts and double tap.
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020
>> Hi all,
>> I recently updated my phone from 13 . something to the latest IOS.
>> Now, when I am in message conversations, I hear the word muted.  Is this 
>> suppose to happen or maybe I have accidently made some kind of a change?
>> Thanks for any info.
>> James B 
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Re: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020

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How do I change it from saying conversation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> 
> Get out of the conversation and tap on the conversation and flick down until 
> you hear show alerts and double tap.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I recently updated my phone from 13 . something to the latest IOS.
>  
> Now, when I am in message conversations, I hear the word muted.  Is this 
> suppose to happen or maybe I have accidently made some kind of a change?
>  
> Thanks for any info.
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Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I find it odd that you have to provide an email address, in order to get the 
service whether it be free or if you pay a subscription for it. I wanted to try 
it out, but to put in my email address I’m not so sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any
> information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't
> make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this.
> So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did!
> 
> 
>> On 1/5/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted?  If not
>> what is the timefor deleting it?  Any idea when the sale will be?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane
>> Lowe
>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for
>> SuperSense
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you
>> are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also
>> expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the
>> discounted pricing, there is still hope!
>> 
>> All the best, and happy 2021.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> Hi shane,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for looking into this situation,
>>> 
>>> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it
>>> is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue.
>>> 
>>> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase
>>> of this product.
>>> 
>>> Mind you the price is high here in nz,
>>> 
>>> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they
>>> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country?
>>> 
>>> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today
>>> on my tanning!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Shane Lowe
>>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and
>>> suggestion for SuperSense
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Thank you so much for your feedback.
>>> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to
>>> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in
>>> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we
>>> handle data.
>>> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch
>>> afterword.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese  wrote:
 I don't think I would buy it.
 It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep
 won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that
 is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose
 to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details.
 
 Evan
 
 
 On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> I agree.  This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100%
> going to make before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and
> suggestion for SuperSense
> 
> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images?
> 
> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't
> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps
> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and
> suggestion for SuperSense
> 
> Shane,
> 
> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s
> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial
> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be
> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is
> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be
> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery
> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure
> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly,
> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to
> access them.
> 
> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is
> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged
> when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related
> interactive or cloud based services 

Re: Fwd: Sonos - Here to Help

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

What kind of answer is that.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 9:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Fwd: Sonos - Here to Help

I'm forwarding what I feel is one of the worst examples of customer support 
I've ever experienced.  
I was looking into getting some Sonos 1 speakers and an amp so we could have 
music in multiple rooms. I wrote their support to ask about the frequency range 
of the speakers and to check if there are different generations of the Sonos 1 
speakers. Below is there utterly useless response. I'm rethinking our plans. 



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

Begin forwarded message:


  From: Sonos Support 
  Date: December 30, 2020 at 6:17:40 PM PST
  To: richardturne...@outlook.com
  Subject: Sonos - Here to Help


   
  Sonos
Customer Care 
 
   
Hi Richard,

Thanks for contacting Sonos. 

Unfortunately, we don't share that technical information 
with the public, I apologize for any inconvenience that this can cause.

Cheers,

Sonos Customer Care
   
   
  Case #: 02475560 
   

   

   
 
 



  --- Original Message ---
  From: Richard Turner [richardturne...@outlook.com]
  Sent: 12/29/2020 10:19 AM
  To: c...@sonos.com
  Subject: Frequency response of the Sonos 1


  I cannot find any specifications on the frequency response of the Sonos 1 
wireless speakers.



  Are there different generations of the Sonos 1 speaker?







  Richard, in the U.S.



  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



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Re: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I’m not sure about that one.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Simon.  Once you select a video, how do you go about subscribing to 
> it? 
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> Well when you open your YouTube app, you swipe through, there’s a search 
> button you double tap on it you type in whatever you want to search for, like 
> let’s say ABBA songs, then on the bottom of your iPhone screen to the right 
> there is a search button you double tap on that and then you swipe through 
> the list of videos that there are.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Finding videos on Youtube.
>  
> Sorry for not clarifying.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> When you say “a guide to YouTube”, are you talking about finding videos on 
> YouTube, or uploading videos to YouTube?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
> Conger
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:31 PM
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> Subject: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> Good Afternoon All:
>  
> I am not a good searcher and tried to find a guide to Youtube on Applevis but 
> was so overwhelmed that I didn’t have much luck.
>  
> I need the very basics sort of like a step-by-step guide.
>  
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Re: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Well when you open your YouTube app, you swipe through, there’s a search button 
you double tap on it you type in whatever you want to search for, like let’s 
say ABBA songs, then on the bottom of your iPhone screen to the right there is 
a search button you double tap on that and then you swipe through the list of 
videos that there are.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Finding videos on Youtube.
>  
> Sorry for not clarifying.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> When you say “a guide to YouTube”, are you talking about finding videos on 
> YouTube, or uploading videos to YouTube?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
> Conger
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> Good Afternoon All:
>  
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> was so overwhelmed that I didn’t have much luck.
>  
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Re: Drafts not deleting from email

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I’m afraid that’s not the only problem, there seems to be another issue where 
when you go to check your messages, voiceover will say that there’s a message, 
but when you enter in the inbox, there is no message there at all.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> Apple knows about this, but interested people might want to write to them 
> anyway. They confirmed on their end that if a single unsent draft is in the 
> drafts folder, it stays there even if you have tried to cancel and then 
> delete. For whatever reason I may change my mind at sending something, and 
> this is truly annoying to have to end up sending to myself in order to get 
> out of the draft mailbox
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Re: Drafts not deleting from email

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I had the same problem and I did not know what to do about it.

-Original Message- 
From: CrazyEyez

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drafts not deleting from email

Thanks for that.
Its been driving me crazy for a few days.


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I had this problem the other day. It was making me crazy. You could be 
out of the draft mailbox, but it always showed them at the bottom and when 
you open it to delete it it would simply put it back there so, I started 
another one and just put random keystrokes end and then canceled when it 
suggested delete I press the delete it did not instead it showed me both 
drafts I could hit the delete then and it deleted them so they were side 
messages. They have not returned since then. A strange way out, but it 
works.


Sent from my iPhone


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Apple knows about this, but interested people might want to write to 
them anyway. They confirmed on their end that if a single unsent draft is 
in the drafts folder, it stays there even if you have tried to cancel and 
then delete. For whatever reason I may change my mind at sending 
something, and this is truly annoying to have to end up sending to myself 
in order to get out of the draft mailbox


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Re: scanning apps

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I recently got the fypido stand, however I am not quite sure of how to put 
the phone on it, but thanks for the suggestion.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: scanning apps

Simon,  
if you have trouble holding the phone over a document, no app is going to give 
great resullts. I do not like KNFB Reader. You may want to consider getting a 
scanning stand. I love Voice Dream Scanner, but its way of letting you know if 
you have text in view is a tone that plays. The louder the tone, the more text. 
If you have it on auto-capture, once you are steady at the loudest tone for 2 
or 3 seconds, it will take the picture. 
You want to be 10 to 12 inches above a full 8.5 by 11 document to get the best 
results. 
Supersense, tells you in words to move farther away, or 1 inch to the left, 
etc. Supersense has a free trial, and if you are convinced by it, right now it 
is haf price for a lifetime subscription for $49.99. Or there are monthly or 
yearly plans. 
Voice Dream Scanner on the other hand, is $5.99 one time purchase. 
They both have great points about them and Supersense is designed to deal with 
more objects than just text. 
You could also use the free Seeing AI app to scan a single page. 
Good luck.



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:29 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   
  Yeah I would someday like to try I think it’s called voice dream scanner, I 
tried the knfb reader. I didn’t find it very user-friendly, as it was hard to 
get All of the page in the camera and it was kind of hard to keep the phone in 
one position all the time.

  Sent from my iPhone

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scanning apps

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Yeah I would someday like to try I think it’s called voice dream scanner, I 
tried the knfb reader. I didn’t find it very user-friendly, as it was hard to 
get All of the page in the camera and it was kind of hard to keep the phone in 
one position all the time.

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Re: Adding Contact Card To Contacts

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Hi Joy,

all you need to do is when you have the email open with the contact in it, 
double tap on that vcf file, then keep swiping right to where you hear voice 
over say add to contact.

From: Joy Cyr 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:37 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Adding Contact Card To Contacts

Good morning, 
Someone sent a contact card to me from their iPhone contact's list  via email 
and I haven't been able to figure out how to add it to my contacts, or how to 
open it.  I'd be happy to learn how to do this on either (or both) my iPhone 
and/or my Mac.  

All help most appreciated!
Joy


"Watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you, because the greatest 
secrets are always hidden in the  most unlikely  places. Those who don’t 
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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

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How much is this?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>   Doug,
> Read the description here:
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>> 
>> What is supersense?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for 
>> free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother 
>> doing books.
>> 
>> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
>> 
>> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, 
>> or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post 
>> office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the 
>> blind.
>> At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.
>> 
>> As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
>> The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
>> But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
>> documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse 
>> and take with.
>> The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take 
>> as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.
>> 
>> I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and 
>> just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> • I’m not the card shark
>> • My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ccac994456dd249cdfc9f08d8a6f455a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442915624838922%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=q7HJRzE5MNrIC2kGltZtcmCppSQrlB0TnQuIPv5aVy4%3Dreserved=0
>> •
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
>> other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess 
>> he’s not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents 
>> or books between super sense and voice dream scanner?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
>>> • I’m not the card shark
>>> • My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
>>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
>>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
>>> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
>>> QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
>>> •
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 

Re: zoom and Ipads?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

It seems to be more accessible on the phone.

From: Dan 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:10 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: zoom and Ipads?

Hi all,




I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
laptop but am considering using my Ipad instead.




Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




Thanks.




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Re: zoom and Ipads?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I just enter on the link Dan.

From: Dan 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:10 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: zoom and Ipads?

Hi all,




I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
laptop but am considering using my Ipad instead.




Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




Thanks.




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Re: Email question referring to the voice sounds.

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi Jenny, you are going to have to setup the voices you want in the voice over 
settings in accessibility.

From: Jenny Bomareto 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Email question referring to the voice sounds.

Hello all,

For some reason my email voice switched back to Alex so how do I get it back to 
the female voice it was on? Thanks in advance for your help.  Also the voice 
for messages changed back to Alex  as well.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Translate Photo+ OCR Camera

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/translate-photo-ocr-camera/id896187714


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Re: What Is Blue Sky and How Do You Turn It Off?

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yes.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shirley Baker" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: What Is Blue Sky and How Do You Turn It Off?


Do I actually need to open the app first and then turn the rotor to describe 
images and turn it off that way? It says turn off describe images for so I’m 
assuming I have to open the app to turn it off?


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Holly  wrote:

Shirley:

If it shows up in any app, just go to the rotor and turn it off by 
flicking. Once it is off, you won't have to do it again.


Just make sure you turn the rotor to characters or words, so you won't 
accidently enable it again.

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Re: Hulu again

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
work normally.


-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Bullis

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hulu again

I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if 
I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I 
drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. 
I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
didn't. I have the latest phone and operating system.

Matthew


On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Chris,
My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when 
going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number 
and the episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of 
the show itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be 
astonished if that mattered, but it might.



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Hi Mary,

I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the 
show titles.
First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am 
using the default Samantha enhanced voice.


I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?

This is what seems to happen.

It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why 
I say this.


For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options 
button.
As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the 
next line, which is on the go to details button.
But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options 
button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new 
line.


Chris



On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles 
in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group 
I’m part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One 
of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles 
just like you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not 
work at all, I only see details and more options rather than titles. 
Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference 
between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had this 
problem and fixed it?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apple TV and apps

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Sorry priscilla your message is blank

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:

Hi there,
So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
things like Facebook or Twitter?
I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
coming through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home
entertainment system.
Tom

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Re: Hearing the name of the group

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I don't have that problem it says viphone for me.

On 11/17/2020 4:55 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Maria,

I expect the only fix for not hearing the group name would be for them to move 
the list to Groups.io which isn't likely to happen.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Hearing the name of the group

When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the group?  Is 
there a fix?

thanks.


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Re: Hearing the name of the group

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

what does it say when you get a message from viphone?

On 11/17/2020 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Using Windows10 and newest JAWS version.  When I get a message from 
the blind tech group, the first thing I hear is blind tech group, then 
the subject and then the sender.




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On 11/17/2020 4:34 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi how are you checking your email?

On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the 
group?  Is there a fix?


thanks.








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Re: Hearing the name of the group

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Hi how are you checking your email?

On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the 
group?  Is there a fix?


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Re: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone

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Thanks for the information about walter2 I am in Canada, I don’t think I’ll be 
using that really often, someone also suggested to me to use the Apple iTunes 
store to get ringtones. Is that easy to use and accessible?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:30 AM, 'Kliph' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Its normally 40 USD, but on sale right now for 23
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2020, at 5:54 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I looked up the walter 2 program, and was  trying to double tap on the buy 
>> link to find  out how much it cost, and no matter how many times I double 
>> tap on that link the phone doesn’t do anything.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since iTunes 11 or 12, you have to use iTunes to copy Ringtones from the 
>>> computer to the iPhone.
>>> So, you may want to talk with either or both Apple Accessibility or 
>>> Microsoft Accessibility.
>>> Apple: 877-204-3930
>>> Microsoft: 800-936-5900
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> Live long and prosper  
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
>>> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 2:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Computer Information Sharing Group 
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>>> Subject: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone! Hope everyone is going to have a nice start to this week, but 
>>> I was wondering how can I transfer ringtones from my computer to the 
>>> iPhone? When I had iTunes on the computer for some reason the latest 
>>> version crashes and sendeS me back to the  desktop.
>>> 
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Re: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I looked up the walter 2 program, and was  trying to double tap on the buy link 
to find  out how much it cost, and no matter how many times I double tap on 
that link the phone doesn’t do anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Since iTunes 11 or 12, you have to use iTunes to copy Ringtones from the 
> computer to the iPhone.
> So, you may want to talk with either or both Apple Accessibility or Microsoft 
> Accessibility.
> Apple: 877-204-3930
> Microsoft: 800-936-5900
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 2:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Computer Information Sharing Group 
> 
> Subject: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone
> 
> Hi everyone! Hope everyone is going to have a nice start to this week, but I 
> was wondering how can I transfer ringtones from my computer to the iPhone? 
> When I had iTunes on the computer for some reason the latest version crashes 
> and sendeS me back to the  desktop.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Has anybody used bitchute?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Whats this?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Lehmann, Timothy A 
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> Has anybody used bitchute, and if so, how accessible is it? Thanks and have a 
> nice day!
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Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is going to have a nice start to this week, but I 
was wondering how can I transfer ringtones from my computer to the iPhone? When 
I had iTunes on the computer for some reason the latest version crashes and 
sendeS me back to the  desktop.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi how do I go back to a previous version? the recent version seems to 
crash.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 
32-bit system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and 
type Apple Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how 
I've gotten past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had 
trouble getting them from the Microsoft Store.


Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop 
as my primary iTunes Library manager.


As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, 
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.


While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer 
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.


So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove 
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, 
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to 
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.


So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to 
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.


Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.


So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do 
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.


2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of 
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows 
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating 
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the 
Microsoft Store?


All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I have 12.10.10.2 I am not sure where you can get this version I just 
updated it when the computer asked me to update it sorry.


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop
as my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall,
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again,
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the
Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: What exactly is a wigit?

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   Hi here's how someone described it to me, hope its clear.
A widget is a small icon that you place on your home page to get the 
information you need that updates all the time. For instance, I have my 
calendar widget and my weather widget on my home screen so I can flick to 
either widget and get real time information. My weather one gives me the 
current temperature as well as the high and low. My calendar gives me my 
next event. If I need more detail, I can double tap on the widget and it 
opens the app. Very practical for things you check quite often. Note that 
not all apps yet have a widget but they will come soon. I am thinking of 
putting my Parcel widget there so I can track my parcels location in real 
time. The thing you have to remember is that adding widgets to your home 
screen will need space so they will push the apps at the bottom of your 
screen to the next page.


HTH

-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What exactly is a wigit?

Hello everyone,


So what exactly is a wigit?

Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?

And what might be some benefits of using them?


I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't
understand as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Facebook app for the iphone

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I have not found a voice that I like.

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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:06 AM, turab chimthanawala  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> Even I face this issue. Though not with Facebook but with whatsapp and
> at times with linkedin. I am facing this after IOS 14. I was suggested
> to change my Voiceover voice from Samantha to Alex or some other more
> stable voice, but the problem has not been resolved even after
> choosing Alex.
> 
>> On 10/28/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hi is anybody having this trouble, whenever   a post is Being  read by
>> voiceover for the first time, do you get voiceover rereading parts of it
>> again? And what can I do about this? this started happening right after I
>> updated to 14.
>> 
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Facebook app for the iphone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi is anybody having this trouble, whenever   a post is Being  read by 
voiceover for the first time, do you get voiceover rereading parts of it again? 
And what can I do about this? this started happening right after I updated to 
14.

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Re: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

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I’m not having any difficulties either, everything seems to be working fine 
here.

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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 3:19 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am using the latest update to the YouTube app. I am not having any problems 
> with accessibility or closing videos. I am using an iPhone 7. 
> 
> Dona
>> 
>> I just checked, and the collapse video button is still there on my IPhone 6, 
>> running 11.2.6. It still is at the top left corner of my screen. I do not 
>> know the number of my You Tube version, but there is no update for it in my 
>> app store, so I guess it is the latest one. I do not know the reason for the 
>> discrepancy in our experiences. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Shai  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
>> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
>> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
>> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
>> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
>> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
>> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
>> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
>> form found online. I have already contacted YouTube about this issue
>> and I am hoping that it will be resolved soon.
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Re: BO lagging?

[Simon Wong]

I dont get a lag on my 5s. Everything is fine here.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 5:40 AM, christopher hallsworth  
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> Hi not on my iPhone 6s, which in my opinion always ran iOS 11 very well. This 
> may happen on the older devices though, like the iPhone 5s and iPad Mini 2.
> 
>> On 4 Feb 2018, at 09:17, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anybody else find that in iOS 11 voice-over is lagging way behind what 
>> is actually visible on the screen? Example: when i wake my phone and, after 
>> a couple of goes at fingerprint ID, i succeed and the screen has already 
>> passed the lock screen and the visible focus is on the first folder on my 
>> home screen, voice-over still announced “Try again”. All when I have tapped 
>> on a different folder from the first one on the home screen, and the focus 
>> is clearly visible to me around that chosen folder, voiceover still 
>> announces the name of the first home screen folder and if I double tap, my 
>> phone opens that first folder not the one the visible focus is on. Puzzling. 
>> Is this a known bug?
>> Regards
>> Harry iPhone 7 Plus ios 11.2.5
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Re: Voice Dream Reader no longer linking with my Dropbox

[Simon Wong]

Your message is blank.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Tamara Rorie  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
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>> This is the kind of thing I would send to Winston through the 
>> supp...@voicedream.ccom address.
>> It could be a DropBox update caused an issue.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 11:42 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I think some have had problems with DropBox, certainly those using Braille 
>>> Sense have just been told it's working again.
>>> 
>>> This may be of help to you.
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
 On 11/19/2017 7:40 PM, Marcia Yale wrote:
 Within the past week, I can no longer add files to Voice Dream from my
 Dropbox. I have tried several times to unlink and re-link Voice Dream with
 Dropbox but still get the error: "failed to link to Dropbox, or something 
 to
 that effect. I have uninstalled and reinstalled both Voice Dream Reader and
 Dropbox, as suggested by Voice Dream's support person, but no luck. Has
 anyone had this problem before and, if so, do you have a solution?
 
 Marcia Yale
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Re: Wifi or cellular data

[Simon Wong]

I cannot read this message.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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Wifi or cellular data

[Simon Wong]

Hi, when I’m at home, how do I know if the phone is using Wi-Fi or cellular 
data on apps like Mail and Facebook messenger and so on and so forth?

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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Simon Wong]

I did not understand your message at all!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> well i wonder that front camera is not the thing with what you are can do can 
> do and work and display that could be the prublum, and the stand might be 
> standing on the thing that can do with myself.
>  
> From: Simon Wong
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>  
> Last time I tried that, I didn’t get no prompt no message telling me to hold 
> the phone to set away you know this so I wonder if it would help if I had a 
> stand.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:25 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> when you’re in the document channel just hold the phone quite hi above your 
>> target text and you should be given information about what edges can be 
>> seen. once all the edges can be seen, the picture will be taken, you will be 
>> advised to hold still. so, you don’t have to select or  double tap it is 
>> automatic.    
>>  
>> hope this helps, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 17 Dec 2017, at 13:58, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where is this automatically take picture setting.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 8:50 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hello Richard,
>>>> Thanks for the advice, are used your automatic take picture instead of 
>>>> double tapping and I got a result! meanwhile, using the handwriting 
>>>> channel, I took a quick snap of the shopping list that Hugh and I have 
>>>> been working on. he, obviously, didn’t anticipate my sudden access to  his 
>>>> written word, so he was a little embarrassed when my phone read me some of 
>>>> the rude remarks he made in the margins of the list! this, for me, is a 
>>>> game changer. Notes and memos can be left on those yellow sticky things 
>>>> and we will be able to read them! I have always wanted to read those 
>>>> things. I love reading my Christmas card signatures. never thought I’d 
>>>> here myself say this, but well done Microsoft!
>>>> Sandy
>>>>  
>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Dec 2017, at 15:20, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>> What I've found is that you have to hold the phone higher from the 
>>>>> document than with other OCR apps. It is about 18 inches for me. And you 
>>>>> have to hold steady when it says to hold steady and it will automatically 
>>>>> take the picture.
>>>>> And, yes, the handwriting recognition is amazing!
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 6:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>> Using the Seeing AI app with my iPhone 6 I am able to read, even when in 
>>>>>> Irish, my Christmas cards from my neighbours and friends. this is really 
>>>>>> good! now, just one thing, I have never yet managed to get a document 
>>>>>> recognised. short document mode is fine, but the full one way you take 
>>>>>> picture always fails. it fails because it cuts out because it is taking 
>>>>>> too long. I imagine, this is because of my Internet connection. but if I 
>>>>>> take a picture of a scene, it comes back very quickly with the 
>>>>>> description which is quite accurate. so, might the problem lay 
>>>>>> elsewhere? after all, it recognises and interpret handwriting, which has 
>>>>>> to be sent off to the cloud to be processed, so, why not documents? any 
>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>> Very happy, Sandy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Simon Wong]

Thanks That’s the one i was going to get or i was going to try scan jig as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Try Fopydo, scanning stand. it can be raised to 14 inches, which could help.
> And it is the least expensed.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2017, at 7:24 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> I cannot keep my hands at a certain position for a very long time. I am 
>> going to try a stand.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> I do not find most of the stands work with Seeing AI, they are not quite 
>>> tall enough.
>>> The trick is to keep the phone level, with the camera pointing toward the 
>>> middle of the page, about 18 inches above the page.
>>> One method that might help you for practice is to take a standard 8.5 inch 
>>> wide and 11 inch long sheet document and fold it in half the long way, then 
>>> unfold it and fold it in half the short way, then unfold it and flatten it 
>>> on the table.
>>> Now, the folds will create an intersection in the middle of the page.
>>> Find that spot where the two folds meet in the center, and place the 
>>> phone's camera right on it.
>>> Then, launch Seeing AI and use both hands to lift the phone straight up 
>>> slowly, keeping it level.
>>> If you are sitting in a chair with the document on the table, the phone 
>>> will be about even with your face when it is at the right height. This of 
>>> course may vary some depending how tall you are, but at some point, you 
>>> will hear "Hold Steady" and stop moving at that point and it will take the 
>>> picture.
>>> It shouldn't take more than about 6 to 10 seconds to raise the phone to the 
>>> right height.
>>> Once you get used to the height, etc, you won't need to use that method any 
>>> more.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 7:06 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Last time I tried that, I didn’t get no prompt no message telling me to 
>>>> hold the phone to set away you know this so I wonder if it would help if I 
>>>> had a stand.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:25 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> when you’re in the document channel just hold the phone quite hi above 
>>>>> your target text and you should be given information about what edges can 
>>>>> be seen. once all the edges can be seen, the picture will be taken, you 
>>>>> will be advised to hold still. so, you don’t have to select or  double 
>>>>> tap it is automatic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> hope this helps, Sandy
>>>>> 
>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Dec 2017, at 13:58, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where is this automatically take picture setting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 8:50 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hello Richard,
>>>>>>> Thanks for the advice, are used your automatic take picture instead of 
>>>>>>> double tapping and I got a result! meanwhile, using the handwriting 
>>>>>>> channel, I took a quick snap of the shopping list that Hugh and I have 
>>>>>>> been working on. he, obviously, didn’t anticipate my sudden access to  
>>>>>>> his written word, so he was a little embarrassed when my phone read me 
>>>>>>> some of the rude remarks he made in the margins of the list! this, for 
>>>>>>> me, is a game changer. Notes and memos can be left on those yellow 
>>>>>>

Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Simon Wong]

I cannot keep my hands at a certain position for a very long time. I am going 
to try a stand.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Simon,
> I do not find most of the stands work with Seeing AI, they are not quite tall 
> enough.
> The trick is to keep the phone level, with the camera pointing toward the 
> middle of the page, about 18 inches above the page.
> One method that might help you for practice is to take a standard 8.5 inch 
> wide and 11 inch long sheet document and fold it in half the long way, then 
> unfold it and fold it in half the short way, then unfold it and flatten it on 
> the table.
> Now, the folds will create an intersection in the middle of the page.
> Find that spot where the two folds meet in the center, and place the phone's 
> camera right on it.
> Then, launch Seeing AI and use both hands to lift the phone straight up 
> slowly, keeping it level.
> If you are sitting in a chair with the document on the table, the phone will 
> be about even with your face when it is at the right height. This of course 
> may vary some depending how tall you are, but at some point, you will hear 
> "Hold Steady" and stop moving at that point and it will take the picture.
> It shouldn't take more than about 6 to 10 seconds to raise the phone to the 
> right height.
> Once you get used to the height, etc, you won't need to use that method any 
> more.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2017, at 7:06 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Last time I tried that, I didn’t get no prompt no message telling me to hold 
>> the phone to set away you know this so I wonder if it would help if I had a 
>> stand.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:25 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> when you’re in the document channel just hold the phone quite hi above your 
>>> target text and you should be given information about what edges can be 
>>> seen. once all the edges can be seen, the picture will be taken, you will 
>>> be advised to hold still. so, you don’t have to select or  double tap it is 
>>> automatic.
>>> 
>>> hope this helps, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>> On 17 Dec 2017, at 13:58, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Where is this automatically take picture setting.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 8:50 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hello Richard,
>>>>> Thanks for the advice, are used your automatic take picture instead of 
>>>>> double tapping and I got a result! meanwhile, using the handwriting 
>>>>> channel, I took a quick snap of the shopping list that Hugh and I have 
>>>>> been working on. he, obviously, didn’t anticipate my sudden access to  
>>>>> his written word, so he was a little embarrassed when my phone read me 
>>>>> some of the rude remarks he made in the margins of the list! this, for 
>>>>> me, is a game changer. Notes and memos can be left on those yellow sticky 
>>>>> things and we will be able to read them! I have always wanted to read 
>>>>> those things. I love reading my Christmas card signatures. never thought 
>>>>> I’d here myself say this, but well done Microsoft!
>>>>> Sandy
>>>>> 
>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Dec 2017, at 15:20, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>>> What I've found is that you have to hold the phone higher from the 
>>>>>> document than with other OCR apps. It is about 18 inches for me. And you 
>>>>>> have to hold steady when it says to hold steady and it will 
>>>>>> automatically take the picture.
>>>>>> And, yes, the handwriting recognition is amazing!
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>>>>>

Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Simon Wong]

Last time I tried that, I didn’t get no prompt no message telling me to hold 
the phone to set away you know this so I wonder if it would help if I had a 
stand.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:25 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> when you’re in the document channel just hold the phone quite hi above your 
> target text and you should be given information about what edges can be seen. 
> once all the edges can be seen, the picture will be taken, you will be 
> advised to hold still. so, you don’t have to select or  double tap it is 
> automatic.
> 
> hope this helps, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 17 Dec 2017, at 13:58, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Where is this automatically take picture setting.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 8:50 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello Richard,
>>> Thanks for the advice, are used your automatic take picture instead of 
>>> double tapping and I got a result! meanwhile, using the handwriting 
>>> channel, I took a quick snap of the shopping list that Hugh and I have been 
>>> working on. he, obviously, didn’t anticipate my sudden access to  his 
>>> written word, so he was a little embarrassed when my phone read me some of 
>>> the rude remarks he made in the margins of the list! this, for me, is a 
>>> game changer. Notes and memos can be left on those yellow sticky things and 
>>> we will be able to read them! I have always wanted to read those things. I 
>>> love reading my Christmas card signatures. never thought I’d here myself 
>>> say this, but well done Microsoft!
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Dec 2017, at 15:20, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>> What I've found is that you have to hold the phone higher from the 
>>>> document than with other OCR apps. It is about 18 inches for me. And you 
>>>> have to hold steady when it says to hold steady and it will automatically 
>>>> take the picture.
>>>> And, yes, the handwriting recognition is amazing!
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 6:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> Using the Seeing AI app with my iPhone 6 I am able to read, even when in 
>>>>> Irish, my Christmas cards from my neighbours and friends. this is really 
>>>>> good! now, just one thing, I have never yet managed to get a document 
>>>>> recognised. short document mode is fine, but the full one way you take 
>>>>> picture always fails. it fails because it cuts out because it is taking 
>>>>> too long. I imagine, this is because of my Internet connection. but if I 
>>>>> take a picture of a scene, it comes back very quickly with the 
>>>>> description which is quite accurate. so, might the problem lay elsewhere? 
>>>>> after all, it recognises and interpret handwriting, which has to be sent 
>>>>> off to the cloud to be processed, so, why not documents? any ideas?
>>>>> Very happy, Sandy
>>>>> 
>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

[Simon Wong]

Where is this automatically take picture setting.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 8:50 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> hello Richard,
> Thanks for the advice, are used your automatic take picture instead of double 
> tapping and I got a result! meanwhile, using the handwriting channel, I took 
> a quick snap of the shopping list that Hugh and I have been working on. he, 
> obviously, didn’t anticipate my sudden access to  his written word, so he was 
> a little embarrassed when my phone read me some of the rude remarks he made 
> in the margins of the list! this, for me, is a game changer. Notes and memos 
> can be left on those yellow sticky things and we will be able to read them! I 
> have always wanted to read those things. I love reading my Christmas card 
> signatures. never thought I’d here myself say this, but well done Microsoft!
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 16 Dec 2017, at 15:20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sandy,
>> What I've found is that you have to hold the phone higher from the document 
>> than with other OCR apps. It is about 18 inches for me. And you have to hold 
>> steady when it says to hold steady and it will automatically take the 
>> picture.
>> And, yes, the handwriting recognition is amazing!
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 6:56 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi,
>>> Using the Seeing AI app with my iPhone 6 I am able to read, even when in 
>>> Irish, my Christmas cards from my neighbours and friends. this is really 
>>> good! now, just one thing, I have never yet managed to get a document 
>>> recognised. short document mode is fine, but the full one way you take 
>>> picture always fails. it fails because it cuts out because it is taking too 
>>> long. I imagine, this is because of my Internet connection. but if I take a 
>>> picture of a scene, it comes back very quickly with the description which 
>>> is quite accurate. so, might the problem lay elsewhere? after all, it 
>>> recognises and interpret handwriting, which has to be sent off to the cloud 
>>> to be processed, so, why not documents? any ideas?
>>> Very happy, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
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Re: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off

[Simon Wong]

What about doing a insert z,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2017, at 6:13 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi all it says is undo. Is there any other way to tell.
> Jen
> 
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 5:21 PM, "llump...@austin.rr.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> It should say “vvirtual cursor on or off” or maybe it’s active or inactive” 
>> I can’t rememgber.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jen .
>> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 1:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off
>>  
>> Hi,
>> Is there a way to tell what mode you’re in.
>> Jen
>> 
>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, "llump...@austin.rr.com" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Do control-z again
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jen .
>> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 12:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Itunes sign in worked ok but now how do I turn the old mode off
>>  
>> Hi, 
>> So last night I posted about not being able to sign in to my iTunes account 
>> with jaws on my pc with jaws.  Someone said to use control Z which allowed 
>> me to sign in but now I ask how do I set things back to the mode jaws was in 
>> before. 
>> Thanks. 
>> Jen 
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Re: Tick Boxes in Safari

[Simon Wong]

My guess is the website isn’t accessible, that’s why you’re having trouble 
checking the box.

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> I’m on the U.K. National Lottory website via Safari using my IPhone 6s and 
> IOS 11.2
>  
> When selecting a lucky dip it speaks tick box un ticked.
>  
> If I double tap with a single finger it makes a sound but does not tick the 
> box.
>  
> How do I tick a box in Safari?
>  
> Tried it via my BT keyboard and pressed spacebar to tick the box.  This 
> didn’t work.
> Is there a particular keyboard combination for ticking boxes in Safari?
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Re: How is iOS 11 on an iPhone 5s?

[Simon Wong]

Is this the last update for 11?

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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 3:11 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:
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> Now that major issues have been dealt with, I'd think you should upgrade. My 
> wife uses a 5S and seems reasonably happy. She looks forward to getting a 
> newer iPHONE but I don't get the sense that she's worse off due to iOS11. 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 12:14 AM Cristóbal  wrote:
>> You'll notice the lag, but with 11.2 at least, I've found it to be a bit 
>> more tolerable than prior 11.x versions. That said, my 5S is only my 
>> secondary device. I don't know how much my opinion would change if it were 
>> my go-too iPhone.
>> Was there even an iOS 9.5? You skipped 10.x entirely?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kathy Brandt
>> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How is iOS 11 on an iPhone 5s?
>> 
>> For various reasons that I think are now resolved under iOS 11, I had not 
>> updated from version 9.5, but now want to because one of my prime apps is 
>> now only working with iOS 10 on. Will my 5s be able to handle this? Apple 
>> says yes, but one of my friends thinks that it will be really sluggish, 
>> because he says his iPhone SE barely manages. Would appreciate any thoughts. 
>> I am only using around 18 gigs from the 64 that I have, so hoping that might 
>> make a difference in how sluggish it might be.
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Siri voice

[Simon Wong]

Hi all i like the siri female voice, it seems alot clearer and not muffled, and 
it actually pronounces words the way its supposed to be said.

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Re: no service again.

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My 5s is working ok.

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> hi guys Is anyone experiencing the No Service message appearing on their 
> iPhones?.
> I have recently been getting this message, and of course makes the phone 
> unworkable.
> I have the iphone 5s with this very issue.
> The new update 11.2 was supposed to fix this very problem, but unfortunetly 
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Re: question on pod catchers and podcasts

[Simon Wong]

11.1

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> Hi, a podcatcher is another name for podcast listening apps. As for deleting 
> a podcast, what version of iOS are you running? Because the iOS 11 podcast 
> app is different than previous versions.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
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> Subject: question on pod catchers and podcasts
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> Hi, not using a pod catcher before, what is it exactly? And what is that 
> supposed to do?Now i am having trouble deleting a podcast i have already 
> heard on the iphone.
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Re: posting on a facebook page

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Are you sure you put something in the edit field?

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> Hi Lynn. Yep looked at the app but when I go to a page it says dimmed when I 
> try to post. 
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> Hi Rebecca,
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> Facebook pages confuse me big time just as groups on Facebook are confusing 
> to me.
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> Have you looked at the Facebook app?
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Aside from using a PC what is the easiest way to post a message on a 
>> facebook page in IOS? I tried the facebook app but all it says is dimmed 
>> where you would post ant tried safari but no post button on pages. 
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question on pod catchers and podcasts

[Simon Wong]

Hi, not using a pod catcher before, what is it exactly? And what is that 
supposed to do?Now i am having trouble deleting a podcast i have already 
heard on the iphone.


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Re: email sound

[Simon Wong]

Yes i get other sounds.

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> On Nov 17, 2017, at 7:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
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> Do you get other sounds? Check your Mute switch and make sure Do Not Disturb 
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> hi, how come my email sound does not play when the screen is locked?
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email sound

[Simon Wong]

hi, how come my email sound does not play when the screen is locked?

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Re: how to remove the do not disturb while driving

[Simon Wong]

Well at least they know about it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:30 AM, cmohney1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Good morning all,
> 
> I did the same thing.  I kept getting those notifications too.  So, I called 
> Apple accessability and shared my screen so they could see what I did and if 
> there were any settings I missed.  Unfortunately, there wasn't.  They said 
> that feature had a bug when trying to turn that feature off.  I find it 
> annoying too but have just learned to just unlock my phone and it goes away.
> 
> Connie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.  I have gone to settings and then to do not disturb and selected 
>> activate manually.  After I’ve been in a car I still sometimes see the 
>> notification that do not disturb while driving was activated.  I really 
>> don’t want/need that feature to be activated since I’m not the driver.  Any 
>> other setting I should change.  Thanks as always for all your help and 
>> advice.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and Garcon
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Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

I will try that the next time i want to put a new ringtone in.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Assuming they are m4r files, is it possible that DropBox is not letting you 
> copy that way?
> Try copying the files, or at least one file, somewhere else on your c drive.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 5:53 AM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> when I do this process, I  don’t paste them where the other tones are.  What 
>> I do is go to the context menu, the 1st option is paste, I hit inter on 
>> that, and it takes care of the rest.
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 1:13 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I installed 12.7, I copied the ringtones from a folder I made in Dropbox 
>>> control c, then I shift tab to iTunes make sure I’m in the tones section of 
>>> the iTunes by selecting my device and tabbing to where it lists of the 
>>> items like summary etc, then went to  the tone section a paste the item 
>>> control V and that’s when it says that it’s copying the file, and that’s 
>>> all it says it doesn’t say that it’s already in.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It would help if you describe in detail how you are copying and pasting 
>>>> these ringtones since this process has changed in iTunes 12.7.
>>>> You also don’t say what version of iTunes you use, 12.7 or have you 
>>>> installed the 12.6.3 Enterprise version?
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Simon Wong
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:35 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>>>>  
>>>> I was trying to put in new ringtones.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> What are you copying, or is that information private? 
>>>> The newer iTunes does not do all what the previous ones did.
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Its weird i never had that problem before.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you are using Windows, the only thing I know of that you can copy and 
>>>> paste through iTunes is ringtones.
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>>  
>>>> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone 
>>>> and a computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at 
>>>> least sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and 
>>>> phone. To make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on 
>>>> your phone. Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from 
>>>> my iPHone" is an available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on 
>>>> both devices, that they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and 
>>>> Handoff is on on  both devices.
>>>>  
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>

Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

I dont think so.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 7:43 AM, David Whitehead <davidmac1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hello again,
> just a thought, however, could there be a problem with any of the files your 
> trying to paste to the iPhone?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 7:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>  
> Yes
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 7:15 AM, David Whitehead <davidmac1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hello;
> after tabbing to the summary,
> then arrowing or pressing t=tones,
> are you then tabbing to the list of ringtones before pasting?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>  
> I installed 12.7, I copied the ringtones from a folder I made in Dropbox 
> control c, then I shift tab to iTunes make sure I’m in the tones section of 
> the iTunes by selecting my device and tabbing to where it lists of the items 
> like summary etc, then went to  the tone section a paste the item control V 
> and that’s when it says that it’s copying the file, and that’s all it says it 
> doesn’t say that it’s already in.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> It would help if you describe in detail how you are copying and pasting these 
> ringtones since this process has changed in iTunes 12.7.
> You also don’t say what version of iTunes you use, 12.7 or have you installed 
> the 12.6.3 Enterprise version?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>  
> I was trying to put in new ringtones.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> What are you copying, or is that information private?
> The newer iTunes does not do all what the previous ones did.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> Its weird i never had that problem before.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you are using Windows, the only thing I know of that you can copy and 
> paste through iTunes is ringtones.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone and a 
> computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at least 
> sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and phone. To 
> make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on your phone. 
> Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from my iPHone" is an 
> available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on both devices, that 
> they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and Handoff is on on both 
> devices.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>  
> Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the 
> iPhone, but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go into 
> the phone, it just says copying
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>  
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Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

Yes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 7:15 AM, David Whitehead <davidmac1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hello;
> after tabbing to the summary,
> then arrowing or pressing t=tones,
> are you then tabbing to the list of ringtones before pasting?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>  
> I installed 12.7, I copied the ringtones from a folder I made in Dropbox 
> control c, then I shift tab to iTunes make sure I’m in the tones section of 
> the iTunes by selecting my device and tabbing to where it lists of the items 
> like summary etc, then went to  the tone section a paste the item control V 
> and that’s when it says that it’s copying the file, and that’s all it says it 
> doesn’t say that it’s already in.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> It would help if you describe in detail how you are copying and pasting these 
> ringtones since this process has changed in iTunes 12.7.
> You also don’t say what version of iTunes you use, 12.7 or have you installed 
> the 12.6.3 Enterprise version?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>  
> I was trying to put in new ringtones.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> What are you copying, or is that information private?
> The newer iTunes does not do all what the previous ones did.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> Its weird i never had that problem before.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you are using Windows, the only thing I know of that you can copy and 
> paste through iTunes is ringtones.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone and a 
> computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at least 
> sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and phone. To 
> make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on your phone. 
> Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from my iPHone" is an 
> available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on both devices, that 
> they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and Handoff is on on both 
> devices.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>  
> Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the 
> iPhone, but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go into 
> the phone, it just says copying
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>  
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Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

I installed 12.7, I copied the ringtones from a folder I made in Dropbox 
control c, then I shift tab to iTunes make sure I’m in the tones section of the 
iTunes by selecting my device and tabbing to where it lists of the items like 
summary etc, then went to  the tone section a paste the item control V and 
that’s when it says that it’s copying the file, and that’s all it says it 
doesn’t say that it’s already in.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> It would help if you describe in detail how you are copying and pasting these 
> ringtones since this process has changed in iTunes 12.7.
> You also don’t say what version of iTunes you use, 12.7 or have you installed 
> the 12.6.3 Enterprise version?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone question
>  
> I was trying to put in new ringtones.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> What are you copying, or is that information private?
> The newer iTunes does not do all what the previous ones did.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> Its weird i never had that problem before.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you are using Windows, the only thing I know of that you can copy and 
> paste through iTunes is ringtones.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>  
> Hi Simon,
>  
> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone and a 
> computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at least 
> sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and phone. To 
> make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on your phone. 
> Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from my iPHone" is an 
> available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on both devices, that 
> they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and Handoff is on on both 
> devices.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>  
> Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the 
> iPhone, but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go into 
> the phone, it just says copying
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>  
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Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

I was trying to put in new ringtones.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> What are you copying, or is that information private?
> The newer iTunes does not do all what the previous ones did.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Its weird i never had that problem before.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are using Windows, the only thing I know of that you can copy and 
>>> paste through iTunes is ringtones.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone 
>>>>> and a computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at 
>>>>> least sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and 
>>>>> phone. To make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on 
>>>>> your phone. Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from 
>>>>> my iPHone" is an available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on 
>>>>> both devices, that they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and 
>>>>> Handoff is on on both devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the 
>>>>>> iPhone, but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go 
>>>>>> into the phone, it just says copying
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
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Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

Its weird i never had that problem before.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you are using Windows, the only thing I know of that you can copy and 
> paste through iTunes is ringtones.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon,
>>> 
>>> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone and 
>>> a computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at least 
>>> sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and phone. To 
>>> make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on your phone. 
>>> Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from my iPHone" is 
>>> an available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on both devices, 
>>> that they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and Handoff is on on both 
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the 
>>>> iPhone, but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go 
>>>> into the phone, it just says copying
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
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Re: iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

No i am copying from the computer to the phone using itunes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> I assume you are using a Mac, since you can only copy between an iPhone and a 
> computer if that computer is a Mac. The Mac needs to be running at least 
> sierra, and Handoff needs to be working between the computer and phone. To 
> make sure Handoff is working, try opening a page in Safari on your phone. 
> Then Command-Tab on your computer and make sure "Safari from my iPHone" is an 
> available option. If not, make sure Bluetooth is on on both devices, that 
> they're connected to the same Wi-Fi network, and Handoff is on on both 
> devices.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the 
>> iPhone, but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go into 
>> the phone, it just says copying
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
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iPhone question

[Simon Wong]

Hi everyone I’ve been trying to copy something from the computer to the iPhone, 
but for some reason when I paste whatever I copy, it doesn’t go into the phone, 
it just says copying

Sent from my iPhone 5s

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Re: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - Mac Rumors

[Simon Wong]

Where do you get iTunes 12.6?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Marie,
> 
> Yes, first uninstall iTunes 12.7.x then, iTunes 12.6.3 should install with no 
> problems.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 3:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - 
> Mac Rumors
> 
> I just got around to trying to install this version of Itunes on my Win 10 
> PC. I get the message that there is a newer version already installed and 
> will not complete the installation. Will it work if I first uninstall Itunes 
> 12.7? I just upgraded and am not happy with 12.7 at all.
> Thanks, Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - 
> Mac Rumors
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Many thanks for posting this. It seems obvious that Apple didn't do a very 
> good job of understanding its user base when deciding to yank apps out of 
> iTunes 12.7.  I find the heading used on the web page for this download to be 
> pretty humorous: Deploy apps in a business environment with iTunes. I wonder 
> how long the Marketing wordsmiths spent on that one. It sure seems to divert 
> attention from the oversight.
> 
> Now I have to decide whether I should install it or not after starting to get 
> used to iTunes 12.7.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - Mac 
> Rumors
> 
> Apple has quietly released iTunes 12.6.3, which reintroduces the ability to 
> download App Store apps and ringtones from within the iTunes desktop software.
> 
> Apple is making this version of iTunes available because "certain business 
> partners might still need to use iTunes to install apps", but the download is 
> basically available to anyone looking to reinstate the functionality that was 
> removed in iTunes 12.7.
> 
> 
> If you've already installed a newer version of iTunes, you can download this 
> version of iTunes on your Mac, PC 32-bit or PC 64-bit and run the installer.
> After installation is complete, you can continue to deploy apps with iTunes.
> You won't be prompted to download new versions of iTunes after you install 
> this version.
> Installation packages for Mac and PC (32-bit and 64-bit) are available for 
> download on the support page. After the installation, most users will need to 
> rebuild their iTunes Library. To do this, hold down the Option key when the 
> app launches and in the dialog window that appears choose "Create 
> Library...". Give the new library a name that's different to your existing 
> library, and then migrate over your albums using the Add to Library...
> option under the Files menu.
> 
> Apple released iTunes 12.7 in September and said the new version was designed 
> to focus solely on music, movies, TV shows, podcasts, and audiobooks, which 
> was the reason behind the removal of the built-in App Store. Following the 
> change, apps and ringtones could only be downloaded on an iOS device.
> 
> This special "business edition" of iTunes includes compatibility with iOS 11, 
> iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X. It's not clear how long Apple will 
> offer iTunes 12.6.3, and the company does not provide technical support for 
> this version, but for those who want the functionality it could be a useful 
> makeweight until Apple comes up with an alternative solution.
> 
> iTunes 12.6.3 can be downloaded from:
> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208079
> 
> Original Article at:
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> 
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Re: 11.1

[Simon Wong]

I did not have that app there before.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2017, at 7:17 PM, doug oliver <oliver.do...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Simon,
> Tv was in ios10  this was in a liter update of iOS 10. So it’s been there all 
> along. Thank you,
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone, according 
>> to what it says, it’s called TV. Has anybody use this?
>> Sent from my iPhone
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11.1

[Simon Wong]

Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone, according to 
what it says, it’s called TV. Has anybody use this?
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Re: Looks like IOS 11.1 is out

[Simon Wong]

What’s the difference between using voice over with Facebook, and using Siri 
with Facebook?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if they have fixed the issue where you can't post to 
> facebook with siri?
> Chris
> -Original Message- From: Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> I just read that it was released today. You can go check for it and see
> if you have it.
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Re: How do I go about sending a group email?

[Simon Wong]

I dont do anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
> Do you need to put something in as a separator i.e., comma, semicolon,
> between e-mail addresses?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani
> 
>> On 10/29/17, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
>> You can try Siri.  Just say, “send an e-mail to ...  Make sure you don’t
>> pause between names.  Siri will then say, “what do you want to say to the
>> group, and you can dictate your message.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>> 
>> From: Michael Amaro
>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 1:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How do I go about sending a group email?
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> I have several contacts I want to send an email to.  How do I go about this,
>> using an iPhone 5 SE?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> email/skype:
>> 
>> mikeam...@earthlink.net
>> 
>> iPhone:
>> 
>> mikeam...@icloud.com
>> 
>> JFK"
>> 
>> "What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax
>> Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of
>> the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace,
>> the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, and the kind that
>> enables men and nations to grow, and to hope, and build a better life for
>> their children—not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and
>> women, not merely peace in our time but peace in all time."
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Re: IOS 11.0.3

[Simon Wong]

I am waiting until 11.1.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 7:28 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
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> Are there problems with the software update IOS 11.0.3?
> Don't know whether to install it or not.
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

I tried what you all suggested and it did not do anything for me.

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> On Oct 26, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> It works here, in fact, I used the Automatically Add to iTunes and it did 
> nothing.
> You just have to make sure you are in your phone area, select Tones from the 
> drop-down and then tab until you are in the list of ringtones before you 
> press Control+V to paste it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, 
> How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.
> 
> Hi everyone! As well as marks steps to adding new ringtones, for those that 
> use jaws, you still have to paste them in the folder automatically add to 
> iTunes and then copied them to the iTunes, I tried copying them from where I 
> saved the ringtones in my downloads folder to iTunes directly, but that did 
> not work.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac 
>>> Visionaries mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for 
>>> Windows and Mac.
>>> 
>>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with 
>>> iTunes 12.7 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S 
>>> Plus, running iOS 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>>> 
>>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>>> Jaws is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at 
>>> least once, without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the 
>>> screen reader.  After that, you should be good to go with Jaws 
>>> running with iTunes 12.7.  This was my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>>> 
>>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>>> button, do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy 
>>> workarounds but I just want you to know that if you encounter 
>>> problems, it's probably not your fault.
>>> 
>>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, 
>>> and arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new 
>>> layout of the application.
>>> 
>>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary 
>>> tab, when your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the 
>>> same options as in iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure 
>>> accessibility settings.
>>> 
>>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>>> device, you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and 
>>> Music checkbox option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark 
>>> in the checkbox, be sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>>> 
>>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no 
>>> longer necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  
>>> In fact, attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to 
>>> add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file 
>>> to memory using the standard windows command of Control+C.
>>> 
>>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC 
>>> and selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on 
>>> the Tones tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you 
>>> have iTunes set to display the Sidebar.
>>> 
>>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your 
>>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed 
>>> custom ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to 
>>> add the ringtone to your device.
>>> 
>>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, 
>>> you will land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act 
>>> on the currently selected ringtone, such as playing it.
>>> 
>>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone 
>>> you wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  
>>> Neither the Application button n

Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

Hi everyone! As well as marks steps to adding new ringtones, for those that use 
jaws, you still have to paste them in the folder automatically add to iTunes 
and then copied them to the iTunes, I tried copying them from where I saved the 
ringtones in my downloads folder to iTunes directly, but that did not work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
>> mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.  
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
>> on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
>> 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
>> is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
>> without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
>> that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
>> my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.  
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
>> do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
>> but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
>> not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
>> arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
>> application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
>> your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
>> iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
>> you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
>> option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
>> sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
>> necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
>> attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
>> to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
>> standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
>> selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
>> tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
>> to display the Sidebar.  
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
>> ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
>> ringtone to your device.  
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
>> land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
>> selected ringtone, such as playing it.  
>> 
>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
>> wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
>> Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
>> remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
>> Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
>> and/or touch pad.  
>> 
>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.  
>> 
>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

Why do I have to call the Microsoft or Apple accessibility four

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> you cannot save it from Windows Media to m4a.
> You have to open it in something like GoldWave, or find a conversion utility 
> or web site.
> Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility or Microsoft accessibility would be a 
> good idea.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> How do I save it as an M4 a file if it opens in windows media player?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You 
>>> can open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
>>> GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to 
>>> convert.
>>> You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones 
>>>> in mp3 but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix 
>>>> this in a earlier version of itunes but not this one though
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
>>>>>> mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and 
>>>>>> Mac.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 
>>>>>> 12.7
>>>>>> on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
>>>>>> 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>> is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
>>>>>> without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  
>>>>>> After
>>>>>> that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>>>>>> button,
>>>>>> do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
>>>>>> but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
>>>>>> not your fault.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
>>>>>> arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> application.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, 
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>>>>>> device,
>>>>>> you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
>>>>>> option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the chec

Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

How do I save it as an M4 a file if it opens in windows media player?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You 
> can open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
> GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to 
> convert.
> You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon  wrote:
> 
>> hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in 
>> mp3 but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in 
>> a earlier version of itunes but not this one though
>> 
>> 
 On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
 On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
 mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.
 First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 
 12.7
 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
 Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
 is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
 without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
 that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This 
 was
 my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
 Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
 do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
 but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
 not your fault.
 Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
 arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
 application.
 Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, 
 when
 your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
 iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
 Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
 you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
 option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
 sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
 Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
 necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
 attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
 to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
 standard windows command of Control+C.
 Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
 selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
 tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
 to display the Sidebar.
 Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
 keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
 ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
 ringtone to your device.
 By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you 
 will
 land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
 selected ringtone, such as playing it.
 To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
 wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
 Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
 Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
 remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
 Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
 and/or touch pad.
 Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.
 Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
 Mark
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Hi, well I managed to get rid of the ringtones I don't want, but now for some 
reason I can't put new ones in

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Hi, how does the phone update itself, without you having to agree to update it?

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Hi everyone! How do you get rid of ringtones that are in the iTunes program?
I have some which are not good anymore.
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Re: where are previous app purchases?

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What is there?

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
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> In the new app store, there isn’t an updates tab..
> 
> Cait
> 
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>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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>> Caitlyn, any app you have purchased should dhow up in ios when you go to the 
>> “purchased” tab in updates.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: where are previous app purchases?
>>  
>> Um.. where, exactly??  In i tunes, the ios app store??
>>  
>> Thanks!
>> Cait
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> When you open the App Store app, double tap on my account.
>>> You will find the purchased button in there.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 17, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 Hi,
 so, where are they stashing your previous app purchases in IOS now?
 
 I just bought an app and tried to find the purchased ones on my hubby’s 
 phone so he can use it also.  It was available for family sharing.  I 
 can’t find the purchased items, though.  I’ve looked in the app store and 
 in i tunes.  what am I missing?
 
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 Caitlyn
 
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Re: A couple of iPhone questions

[Simon Wong]

No the switch is off.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 9:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The default sound is probably set to none.
> If not, check your mute switch.
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> But its not even giving any notification or playing the default sound.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Go into the Calendar settings.
>>> You can set a default alert time.
>>> 
>>> Also, under the Sounds settings you can select a specific alert tone if the 
>>> default tone isn't what you want.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> To: ci...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: A couple of iPhone questions
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone! Hope you all are doing well, I have a couple of iPhone 
>>> questions which I hope somebody can answer, when you put a appointment or 
>>> schedule something in your calendar, does it give you any notification or 
>>> sound when it's time to remind you? When I tried to put something in my 
>>> calendar, I got no sound or notification to let me know that there was 
>>> something scheduled there. Also does anybody know if Chromecast can be used 
>>> by people who are blind or visually impaired?
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Re: A couple of iPhone questions

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But its not even giving any notification or playing the default sound.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi,
> Go into the Calendar settings.
> You can set a default alert time.
> 
> Also, under the Sounds settings you can select a specific alert tone if the 
> default tone isn't what you want.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
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> Subject: A couple of iPhone questions
> 
> Hi everyone! Hope you all are doing well, I have a couple of iPhone questions 
> which I hope somebody can answer, when you put a appointment or schedule 
> something in your calendar, does it give you any notification or sound when 
> it's time to remind you? When I tried to put something in my calendar, I got 
> no sound or notification to let me know that there was something scheduled 
> there. Also does anybody know if Chromecast can be used by people who are 
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A couple of iPhone questions

[Simon Wong]

Hi everyone! Hope you all are doing well, I have a couple of iPhone questions 
which I hope somebody can answer, when you put a appointment or schedule 
something in your calendar, does it give you any notification or sound when 
it's time to remind you? When I tried to put something in my calendar, I got no 
sound or notification to let me know that there was something scheduled there. 
Also does anybody know if Chromecast can be used by people who are blind or 
visually impaired?

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Re: SV: new blood glucose sensor

[Simon Wong]

Hi how do i get this message to read in english?

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> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Lars Billgren  wrote:
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> Hello!
>  
> In Sweden I am told that libre doesn’t work with iPhone, just with Android. 
> But I can be wrong.
>  
> I am using Dexcom 5G mobile. L It has a system of warings for low and high 
> levels. Dexcom has both a sensor and a sender, sending via bluetooth each 5 
> minutes to my iPhone. Connected to the app Health, I can see results over 
> time. Very nicely.
>  
> Lars Billgren Sweden
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>  
> Från: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] För David 
> Whitehead
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> Ämne: new blood glucose sensor
>  
> Hello; Here’s a question from one of my client’s, perhaps someone has a 
> answer.
>  
> Hi David
>  
> I am using “Freestyle libre” a new blood glucose sensor  to aid in management 
> of my type1 diabetes.
> Here’s the problem the device I use to scan the sensor will not read the 
> result to me. It does not work with my I phone asI’ve  tried different apps 
> to read the device.
> Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I’m now relying on 
> others to read it to me.
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Re: Iphone

[Simon Wong]

I did do that but it didn't work, but however when I left my home and tried to 
go into this check for updates in the settings, everything seemed to work fine

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
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> Try a Reset Network Settings and then try again.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> There is no update file.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> Go to Settings/General/iPhone Storage. Once it lists items on your phone and 
>> how much space they take up, see if there's an update file in the list. If 
>> so, delete it, and then check for updates again.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, since restoring the phone, for some reason now  when I check for an 
>>> software update it gives me an error, have any of you had this? And what 
>>> have you done about this?
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Re: Iphone

[Simon Wong]

There is no update file.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi Simon,
> 
> Go to Settings/General/iPhone Storage. Once it lists items on your phone and 
> how much space they take up, see if there's an update file in the list. If 
> so, delete it, and then check for updates again.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Simon Wong <simonwo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, since restoring the phone, for some reason now  when I check for an 
>> software update it gives me an error, have any of you had this? And what 
>> have you done about this?
>> 
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[Simon Wong]

Hi, since restoring the phone, for some reason now  when I check for an 
software update it gives me an error, have any of you had this? And what have 
you done about this?

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Re: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - Mac Rumors

[Simon Wong@]

Why don't you uninstall 12.7, and put in 12.6.

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> On Oct 10, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Casey  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have tried installing this.
> But I have 12.7 installed.
> So I ran this 12.63 and it said that they was A later version of iTunes on 
> this computer.
> So have any of you ran in to this if so what did you do about it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - 
> Mac Rumors
> 
> Hello Alan.  You are quite welcome.
> 
> Yes, this is not the first time Apple has made a faux pas as it pertains to 
> iTunes and its userbase.  
> 
> The one I remember the most strongly is when Apple attempted to yank the 
> auto-play feature away from Windows users so that we could not easily 
> transfer photos from our iOS devices to the PC.  The backlash/out cry from 
> Windows users was so great that they immediately restored that functionality 
> in the next minor update.
> 
> As for me, I have not yet updated my primary PC to iTunes 12.7.  Still, I 
> have already downloaded both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of iTunes 12.6.3.
> 
> Were I you, I would download the Windows software, just in case they yank it, 
> and just sit tight as I suspect that they will soon be releasing iTunes 
> 12.7.x which will simply return tones and apps back to iTunes, where, in my 
> opinion, they belong.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 11:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - 
> Mac Rumors
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Many thanks for posting this. It seems obvious that Apple didn't do a very 
> good job of understanding its user base when deciding to yank apps out of 
> iTunes 12.7.  I find the heading used on the web page for this download to be 
> pretty humorous: Deploy apps in a business environment with iTunes. I wonder 
> how long the Marketing wordsmiths spent on that one. It sure seems to divert 
> attention from the oversight.
> 
> Now I have to decide whether I should install it or not after starting to get 
> used to iTunes 12.7.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Quietly Releases iTunes 12.6.3 With Built-In App Store - Mac 
> Rumors
> 
> Apple has quietly released iTunes 12.6.3, which reintroduces the ability to 
> download App Store apps and ringtones from within the iTunes desktop 
> software. 
> 
> Apple is making this version of iTunes available because "certain business 
> partners might still need to use iTunes to install apps", but the download is 
> basically available to anyone looking to reinstate the functionality that was 
> removed in iTunes 12.7. 
> 
> 
> If you've already installed a newer version of iTunes, you can download this 
> version of iTunes on your Mac, PC 32-bit or PC 64-bit and run the installer.
> After installation is complete, you can continue to deploy apps with iTunes.
> You won't be prompted to download new versions of iTunes after you install 
> this version. 
> Installation packages for Mac and PC (32-bit and 64-bit) are available for 
> download on the support page. After the installation, most users will need to 
> rebuild their iTunes Library. To do this, hold down the Option key when the 
> app launches and in the dialog window that appears choose "Create 
> Library...". Give the new library a name that's different to your existing 
> library, and then migrate over your albums using the Add to Library...
> option under the Files menu. 
> 
> Apple released iTunes 12.7 in September and said the new version was designed 
> to focus solely on music, movies, TV shows, podcasts, and audiobooks, which 
> was the reason behind the removal of the built-in App Store. Following the 
> change, apps and ringtones could only be downloaded on an iOS device. 
> 
> This special "business edition" of iTunes includes compatibility with iOS 11, 
> iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X. It's not clear how long Apple will 
> offer iTunes 12.6.3, and the company does not provide technical support for 
> this version, but for those who want the functionality it could be a useful 
> makeweight until Apple comes up with an alternative solution. 
> 
> iTunes 12.6.3 can be downloaded from:
> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208079
> 
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Re: A question

[Simon Wong]

How do I know which setting I have it on on my phone?

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> On Oct 8, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
>  
> Landscape, refers to your screen when it displays horizontally so the screen 
> spreads out from side to side / left to right.
>  
> Portrait, differs in that the screen is displaying vertically so the screen 
> displays up and down.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Simon Wong
> To: ci...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 6:14 PM
> Subject: A question
> 
> Hi everyone! I was just wondering how do you know which mode you have your 
> phone set to? Portrait or landscape?
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[Simon Wong]

Hi everyone! I was just wondering how do you know which mode you have your 
phone set to? Portrait or landscape?

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Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.

[Simon Wong]

To change your ringtone!

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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Sighted help to do what?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:26 AM
> To: Blind iPhone MailingList
> Subject: Re: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
> 
> Hi Amy & Sieghard & Amy;
> 
> The only way I found around this situation is to turn Voiceover off and get 
> sighted help.
> 
> God Bless
> Anthony
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> I have done all of that and more. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 8:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
>> 
>> Did you change it in Settings > Sounds > Ringtone? Also, have you closed all 
>> apps and done a reboot to see what happens after your phone restarts?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Liz Ulrich and LD Hope
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
>> Subject: A glitch with ring tones since updating to 11.
>> 
>> I am having an issue with the ringtone on my iPhone 7-plus since updating to 
>> IOS--11. When I receive a call from any one who I have not assigned a 
>> ringtone to, the default tone happens. I tried to change my tone to one that 
>> I have purchased, and the tone shows up as changed, but the old default tone 
>> is still ringing. I changed it in settings and in my contacts, but it does 
>> not work. Am I missing something?  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: Questions regarding Uber, or Lift

[Simon Wong]

Do we get lift here in canada? does anyone know?

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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Hi Terri;
> 
> I have no problems with either app.
> 
> Once in a while I receive promotions from Lyft for 10 per cent off rides 
> between 9 a
> M to 5 PM with Lyft.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> 
>> I know there have been many questions on this list, regarding both of 
>> these services. Unfortunately, I didn't keep up with the threads, 
>> because I don't travel alone. Just a personal choice.
>> 
>> However, now I have some questions about both services.
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, is there a difference in the services?
>> 
>> Is 1 better over the other? I know that will be opinion. But sometimes 
>> there isn't anything wrong with this.
>> 
>> 
>> Is 1 App easier to use than the other?
>> 
>> Now if I set up 1 of these Apps on my phone, do you always have to pay 
>> with a card?
>> 
>> And if the App is on my phone, can I send an Uber, or Lift driver to 
>> maybe pick a friend up, as long as the charges are set to my card?
>> 
>> Also, will you know ahead of time how much a trip might cost?
>> 
>> What does each App go by, when it comes to pricing?
>> 
>> 
>> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: IOS 11 nags

[Simon Wong]

Whats that going to do?

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> On Oct 4, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Have you done a second reboot after the update, make sure you close all apps 
> first and then reboot.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie
> Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 7:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: IOS 11 nags
>  
> I have updated my phones to IOS 11 and for the most part I like the upgrade 
> and the bugs I have noticed are not a real problem. I have no issues with 
> voiceover and no noticeable battery drain.
> The issue that is annoying is the repeated notifications that I need to 
> complete the setup by using either the touch ID and Passcode, or Apple Pay or 
> Keychain. I would not mind one reminder but if I say not now, it keeps 
> cropping up from time to time. Is there a way to stop this very annoying 
> feature? I can make my own decision about what feature I want to use, so I 
> don’t want to be interrupted by these notifications.
>  
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> Virus-free. www.avast.com
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Re: should i upgrade to ios11

[Simon Wong]

I did not update yet.

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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Help is on the way for everyone who's experiencing these different bugs. I 
> know that beta discussions aren't permitted here on the list, but I can tell 
> you that things are being addressed and I imagine this should be ready for 
> public release soon. You all will be quite pleased. I'm mainly posting this 
> for those who are still on IOS 10.3.3 and aren't ready to upgrade just yet.
> 
> 
>> On 9/29/2017 8:36 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
>> In my case, the way I use my ipad mini 4, none of the bugs effect the way I 
>> use it.  I was lucky all of the apps I use are 64bit.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: should i upgrade to ios11
>> 
>> For whatever it's worth, I have a 6S Plus and have 0 issues with battery 
>> drain, speech going away and sluggishness. My phone is as responsive as ever 
>> and if by the notification bug you guys mean that notifications aren't read 
>> out aloud on the lock screen that for me is not such a big deal and I'm sure 
>> it gets fixed in time. I find there is just as much or more to like about 
>> iOS 11 than there is to complain about and I have already not kept any apps 
>> which didn't get updated to 64 Bit, if you don't upgrade because you are 
>> holding on to some old 32 bit app which hasn't been updated in years then 
>> you are just postponing the inevitable. But I completely agree that if you 
>> don't do well with putting up with a few bugs and work-arounds and prefer 
>> bugs you are used to to new ones then it's better to wait, after all, it's 
>> not like iOS 10 is bug-free.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ann
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: should i upgrade to ios11
>> 
>> Likely you are correct about these apps ever being upgraded.  I looked in 
>> settings a couple of weeks ago and there were 4 or 5 apps now only 2 apps 
>> not compatible with IOS11.
>> SayColor and INote
>> Many newer apps help with colors and I don't believe I use INote much.
>> But I'll wait to upgrade.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Davy Cuppens
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: should i upgrade to ios11
>> 
>> Hi Ann
>> 
>> That's not a negative reason for me not to update. If these apps are not 
>> compatible yet you have to fear they won't ever be compatible.
>> Try searching for other equal apps that are 64 bit.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> From: Ann
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: should i upgrade to ios11
>> 
>> I am not upgrading.  Some apps are not compatible.  To check your apps on 
>> your phone:
>> go to Settings then general then about then applications double tap Will let 
>> you know what apps need updating for next release of IOS.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: should i upgrade to ios11
>> 
>> Well, that's 3 people saying don't upgrade, so i'll definitely wait for 
>> sure.  Hopefully this will get fixed soon.
>> 
>>> On 9/28/17, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>>> Don't.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/28/2017 1:23 PM, Nancy Badger wrote:
 I am not updating until the notifications bug is fixed. Just my two
 cents.
 Nancy
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Executive Director of Counseling
 Old Dominion University
 Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling
 errors.
 
> On Sep 28, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, i know there has been a ton of discussion on here.  It's kind of
> overwelming to an extent.  The big question.  I've been running IOS10.
> Should i do the upgrade or hold off for a bit?  It seems like
> over-all it's working well but a few new little things to get use
> to.  Any thoughts?
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