Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-24 Thread Richard Turner 
Well. Let's see:
1. The operating system is the same.
2. The brand is the same.
3., The devices are different.
Logically, at least logic to me, the device is handling the signal differently.


Even if the brands are different, the devices are different.
I have two bluetooth speakers, neither of which behave the way yours do.
Mine are far from high-end, but work great.
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 24, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:



Hi,
Maybe so, but why is it that the Bose headsets all behave as they should, and 
why is this issue only impacting speakers and speaker hybrids (SoundWear)? it’s 
just so weird.

On 23 Nov 2019, at 16:26, Albert Ruel wrote:

Richard, I tend to agree with you.  My iHome iGT372 used to work well with all 
sounds coming through it from my iPhone XR, however since iOS 13 only recorded 
sounds and Siri come through the speaker with all Voice Over sounds continuing 
to come out of the iPhone’s speaker/earbuds.  When I connected the iPhone to my 
Google Home speaker all sounds came out of the Google speaker, which tells me 
that the iPhone is likely functioning correctly and that there’s something 
iHome hasn’t done to keep up with the iOS 13 update.  I’ve checked in with 
iHome Support to see if they have a firmware update for that speaker.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 I'm still not convinced it is an Apple problem.
There has to be something different those other speakers are doing with there 
interaction with the device.
Airplay did that, but I don't have a working Airplay device to test right now.
None of my bluetooth devices do this' everything comes through the bluetooth.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Christina  wrote:

 Yes, I’ve heard that this so called “feature” or bug is only for a few select 
speakers. I honestly wish I could find more definitive information about this 
instead of hearsay  because I’d like to purchase  and use a bluetooth speaker 
that’s portable and doesn’t require a WIFI connection in order to keep VO with 
my phone and only my music, book, or TV show going to the speaker. My current 
setup isn’t exactly portable and WIFI is required if I want VO to stay with my 
device. The problem though is that it could be a bug instead of a feature and 
there is no way to know for sure just yet. It seems that some people like this 
and some people don’t. So, it’s hard to say. ☺️

Christina
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, but the two 
Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, Voiceover and system sounds.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christina
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

Hi Alan,

I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear speaker 
where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually heard about 
this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was actually a new 
feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay with my phone and 
for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I use airPlay. That 
is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my music. That is just a 
personal preference. I can understand that others prefer VO to go  through the 
connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard about. I heard there is a 
setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, send to HDMI. I heard if you 
want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that is set to off. However in your 
case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t know. Also, you should unpair the 
speaker, change the setting, then re-pair the speaker to your phone. I don’t 
know if this will help at all , but maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a 
friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO 
stay with her phone because she didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things 
on her phone. Everyone in the room could enjoy the music and she retained the 
ability to do what she needed to on her iPhone.

HTH and best of luck,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Hello List,

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

Hello Alan

Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-24 Thread Moop Curran 

Hi,
Maybe so, but why is it that the Bose headsets all behave as they 
should, and why is this issue only impacting speakers and speaker 
hybrids (SoundWear)?  it’s just so weird.


On 23 Nov 2019, at 16:26, Albert Ruel wrote:

Richard, I tend to agree with you.  My iHome iGT372 used to work well 
with all sounds coming through it from my iPhone XR, however since iOS 
13 only recorded sounds and Siri come through the speaker with all 
Voice Over sounds continuing to come out of the iPhone’s 
speaker/earbuds.  When I connected the iPhone to my Google Home 
speaker all sounds came out of the Google speaker, which tells me that 
the iPhone is likely functioning correctly and that there’s 
something iHome hasn’t done to keep up with the iOS 13 update.  
I’ve checked in with iHome Support to see if they have a firmware 
update for that speaker.


Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




 I'm still not convinced it is an Apple problem.
There has to be something different those other speakers are doing 
with there interaction with the device.
Airplay did that, but I don't have a working Airplay device to test 
right now.
None of my bluetooth devices do this' everything comes through the 
bluetooth.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner



On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Christina  
wrote:


 Yes, I’ve heard that this so called “feature” or bug is 
only for a few select speakers. I honestly wish I could find more 
definitive information about this instead of hearsay  because I’d 
like to purchase  and use a bluetooth speaker that’s portable and 
doesn’t require a WIFI connection in order to keep VO with my phone 
and only my music, book, or TV show going to the speaker. My current 
setup isn’t exactly portable and WIFI is required if I want VO to 
stay with my device. The problem though is that it could be a bug 
instead of a feature and there is no way to know for sure just yet. 
It seems that some people like this and some people don’t. So, 
it’s hard to say. ☺️


Christina
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:



I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, 
but the two Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, 
Voiceover and system sounds.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Christina

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming 
out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to 
iOS 13.2


Hi Alan,

I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When 
VO goes to your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only 
going to the ear speaker where you can barely hear VO? Or is the 
sound just fine? I actually heard about this some time ago and I was 
under  the impression that it was actually a new feature for a few 
speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay with my phone and for only 
the music to come out of the speakers, like when I use airPlay. That 
is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my music. 
That is just a personal preference. I can understand that others 
prefer VO to go  through the connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s 
an idea I heard about. I heard there is a setting under 
accessibility, voice over, audio, send to HDMI. I heard if you want 
VO to stay with the phone to make sure that is set to off. However 
in your case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t know. Also, you 
should unpair the speaker, change the setting, then re-pair the 
speaker to your phone. I don’t know if this will help at all , but 
maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a friend who recently used a 
Bose Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO stay with her 
phone because she didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things 
on her phone. Everyone in the room could enjoy the music and she 
retained the ability to do what she needed to on her iPhone.


HTH and best of luck,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hello List,

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming 
out of the phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini 
Soundlink Bluetooth speaker and received the following reply:


Hello Alan

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are 
experiencing. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know 
that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment 
on when it may be resolved.


Have a great day,
Apple Accessibility
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-23 Thread Albert Ruel 
Richard, I tend to agree with you.  My iHome iGT372 used to work well with all 
sounds coming through it from my iPhone XR, however since iOS 13 only recorded 
sounds and Siri come through the speaker with all Voice Over sounds continuing 
to come out of the iPhone’s speaker/earbuds.  When I connected the iPhone to my 
Google Home speaker all sounds came out of the Google speaker, which tells me 
that the iPhone is likely functioning correctly and that there’s something 
iHome hasn’t done to keep up with the iOS 13 update.  I’ve checked in with 
iHome Support to see if they have a firmware update for that speaker.  

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 

 I'm still not convinced it is an Apple problem.
There has to be something different those other speakers are doing with there 
interaction with the device.
Airplay did that, but I don't have a working Airplay device to test right now.
None of my bluetooth devices do this' everything comes through the bluetooth.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>  Yes, I’ve heard that this so called “feature” or bug is only for a few 
> select speakers. I honestly wish I could find more definitive information 
> about this instead of hearsay  because I’d like to purchase  and use a 
> bluetooth speaker that’s portable and doesn’t require a WIFI connection in 
> order to keep VO with my phone and only my music, book, or TV show going to 
> the speaker. My current setup isn’t exactly portable and WIFI is required if 
> I want VO to stay with my device. The problem though is that it could be a 
> bug instead of a feature and there is no way to know for sure just yet. It 
> seems that some people like this and some people don’t. So, it’s hard to say. 
> ☺️ 
> 
> Christina
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, but the 
>> two Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, Voiceover and system 
>> sounds.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Christina
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of 
>> my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
>>  
>> Hi Alan,
>>  
>> I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes 
>> to your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear 
>> speaker where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually 
>> heard about this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was 
>> actually a new feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay 
>> with my phone and for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when 
>> I use airPlay. That is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting 
>> my music. That is just a personal preference. I can understand that others 
>> prefer VO to go  through the connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard 
>> about. I heard there is a setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, 
>> send to HDMI. I heard if you want VO to stay with the phone to make sure 
>> that is set to off. However in your case, maybe try setting it to on. I 
>> don’t know. Also, you should unpair the speaker, change the setting, then 
>> re-pair the speaker to your phone. I don’t know if this will help at all , 
>> but maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a friend who recently used a Bose 
>> Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO stay with her phone because she 
>> didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things on her phone. Everyone in 
>> the room could enjoy the music and she retained the ability to do what she 
>> needed to on her iPhone.
>>  
>> HTH and best of luck,
>> Christina
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello List,
>>  
>> I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of 
>> the phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
>> speaker and received the following reply:
>>  
>> Hello Alan
>>  
>> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
>> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is 
>> currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be 
>> resolved.
>>  
>> Have a great day,
>> Apple Accessibility
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-23 Thread Richard Turner 
I'm still not convinced it is an Apple problem.
There has to be something different those other speakers are doing with there 
interaction with the device.
Airplay did that, but I don't have a working Airplay device to test right now.
None of my bluetooth devices do this' everything comes through the bluetooth.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Christina  wrote:

 Yes, I’ve heard that this so called “feature” or bug is only for a few select 
speakers. I honestly wish I could find more definitive information about this 
instead of hearsay  because I’d like to purchase  and use a bluetooth speaker 
that’s portable and doesn’t require a WIFI connection in order to keep VO with 
my phone and only my music, book, or TV show going to the speaker. My current 
setup isn’t exactly portable and WIFI is required if I want VO to stay with my 
device. The problem though is that it could be a bug instead of a feature and 
there is no way to know for sure just yet. It seems that some people like this 
and some people don’t. So, it’s hard to say. ☺️

Christina
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, but the two 
Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, Voiceover and system sounds.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christina
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

Hi Alan,

I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear speaker 
where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually heard about 
this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was actually a new 
feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay with my phone and 
for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I use airPlay. That 
is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my music. That is just a 
personal preference. I can understand that others prefer VO to go  through the 
connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard about. I heard there is a 
setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, send to HDMI. I heard if you 
want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that is set to off. However in your 
case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t know. Also, you should unpair the 
speaker, change the setting, then re-pair the speaker to your phone. I don’t 
know if this will help at all , but maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a 
friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO 
stay with her phone because she didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things 
on her phone. Everyone in the room could enjoy the music and she retained the 
ability to do what she needed to on her iPhone.

HTH and best of luck,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Hello List,

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

Hello Alan

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. We 
appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.

Have a great day,
Apple Accessibility
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-23 Thread Christina 
Yes, I’ve heard that this so called “feature” or bug is only for a few select 
speakers. I honestly wish I could find more definitive information about this 
instead of hearsay  because I’d like to purchase  and use a bluetooth speaker 
that’s portable and doesn’t require a WIFI connection in order to keep VO with 
my phone and only my music, book, or TV show going to the speaker. My current 
setup isn’t exactly portable and WIFI is required if I want VO to stay with my 
device. The problem though is that it could be a bug instead of a feature and 
there is no way to know for sure just yet. It seems that some people like this 
and some people don’t. So, it’s hard to say. ☺️ 

Christina
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, but the 
> two Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, Voiceover and system 
> sounds.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christina
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of 
> my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
>  
> Hi Alan,
>  
> I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
> your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear 
> speaker where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually 
> heard about this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was 
> actually a new feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay 
> with my phone and for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I 
> use airPlay. That is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my 
> music. That is just a personal preference. I can understand that others 
> prefer VO to go  through the connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard 
> about. I heard there is a setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, 
> send to HDMI. I heard if you want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that 
> is set to off. However in your case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t 
> know. Also, you should unpair the speaker, change the setting, then re-pair 
> the speaker to your phone. I don’t know if this will help at all , but maybe 
> it’s worth a try. Also, I have a friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and 
> she was quite pleased to have VO stay with her phone because she didn’t have 
> to interrupt the music to do things on her phone. Everyone in the room could 
> enjoy the music and she retained the ability to do what she needed to on her 
> iPhone.
>  
> HTH and best of luck,
> Christina
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
> phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
> speaker and received the following reply:
>  
> Hello Alan
>  
> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
> investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.
>  
> Have a great day,
> Apple Accessibility
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RE: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, but the two 
Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, Voiceover and system sounds.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christina
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

Hi Alan,

I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear speaker 
where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually heard about 
this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was actually a new 
feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay with my phone and 
for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I use airPlay. That 
is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my music. That is just a 
personal preference. I can understand that others prefer VO to go  through the 
connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard about. I heard there is a 
setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, send to HDMI. I heard if you 
want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that is set to off. However in your 
case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t know. Also, you should unpair the 
speaker, change the setting, then re-pair the speaker to your phone. I don’t 
know if this will help at all , but maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a 
friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO 
stay with her phone because she didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things 
on her phone. Everyone in the room could enjoy the music and she retained the 
ability to do what she needed to on her iPhone.

HTH and best of luck,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Hello List,

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

Hello Alan

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. We 
appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.

Have a great day,
Apple Accessibility
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-22 Thread Christina 
Hi Alan,

I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear speaker 
where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually heard about 
this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was actually a new 
feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay with my phone and 
for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I use airPlay. That 
is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my music. That is just a 
personal preference. I can understand that others prefer VO to go  through the 
connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard about. I heard there is a 
setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, send to HDMI. I heard if you 
want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that is set to off. However in your 
case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t know. Also, you should unpair the 
speaker, change the setting, then re-pair the speaker to your phone. I don’t 
know if this will help at all , but maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a 
friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO 
stay with her phone because she didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things 
on her phone. Everyone in the room could enjoy the music and she retained the 
ability to do what she needed to on her iPhone.

HTH and best of luck,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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>  
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> speaker and received the following reply:
>  
> Hello Alan
>  
> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
> investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.
>  
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RE: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Apple has several such standard responses and if they reply that they are aware 
of the issue and that it is being worked on that is better than if they reply 
that they cannot reproduce the issue.
I received the same reply when I send a message about the American female SIRI 
voice mispronouncing a number of words.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

What about calling them for help and get screen share? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing at all but 
then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.
 
From: Alan Lemly   
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'   
Subject: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose 
Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
 

Hello List,

 

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

 

Hello Alan

 

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. We 
appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.

 

Have a great day,

Apple Accessibility

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RE: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Carolyn 
What about calling them for help and get screen share? 

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Davy Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing at all but 
then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.
 
From: Alan Lemly   
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'   
Subject: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose 
Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
 

Hello List,

 

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

 

Hello Alan

 

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. We 
appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.

 

Have a great day,

Apple Accessibility

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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Denise Barajas 
I have the very same thing happen to me with all apps, but audio. Even iPhone 
sounds play through my phone. I've been sending log after log to Apple. 
Strangely, this behavior switched on me when using Pandora. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 14:28, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Davy,
>  
> Well, at least my message communicated that Apple Accessibility is aware of 
> the issue whereas yours communicated that you are capable of a snarky reply 
> with no further information.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of 
> my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
>  
> Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing at all 
> but then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.
>  
> From: Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM
> To: 'VIPhone Email List'
> Subject: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
> Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
>  
> Hello List,
>  
> I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
> phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
> speaker and received the following reply:
>  
> Hello Alan
>  
> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
> investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.
>  
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RE: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Alan Lemly 
Davy,

 

Well, at least my message communicated that Apple Accessibility is aware of the 
issue whereas yours communicated that you are capable of a snarky reply with no 
further information.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

 

Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing at all but 
then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.

 

From: Alan Lemly   

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM

To: 'VIPhone Email List'   

Subject: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose 
Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

 

Hello List,

 

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

 

Hello Alan

 

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. We 
appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.

 

Have a great day,

Apple Accessibility

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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Kathy Brandt 
Yes, that’s the same response I got when reporting the mail app issues. I 
haven’t actually updated, but wanted to lend my support,, since I want to see 
this resolved.

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Yes that's a generic response I've seen copied and pasted many times by 
> Apple, however this stuff does get fixed much faster than it would if it were 
> Google. So they do listen and work on this stuff.  
> 
>> On 11/21/2019 3:35 PM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>> Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing at all 
>> but then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.
>>  
>> From: Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM
>> To: 'VIPhone Email List'
>> Subject: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my 
>> Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
>>  
>> Hello List,
>>  
>> I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of 
>> the phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
>> speaker and received the following reply:
>>  
>> Hello Alan
>>  
>> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
>> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is 
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Gordon 
Yes that's a generic response I've seen copied and pasted many times by 
Apple, however this stuff does get fixed much faster than it would if it 
were Google. So they do listen and work on this stuff.


On 11/21/2019 3:35 PM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing 
at all but then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.

*From:* Alan Lemly 
*Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM
*To:* 'VIPhone Email List' 
*Subject:* Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out 
of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2


Hello List,

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out 
of the phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink 
Bluetooth speaker and received the following reply:


Hello Alan

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are 
experiencing. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know 
that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on 
when it may be resolved.


Have a great day,

Apple Accessibility

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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Davy Cuppens 
Wow that is a great standard chatbot message that just tells nothing at all but 
then again it is very good and clever you report this bug.

From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:34 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose 
Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

Hello List,

 

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
speaker and received the following reply:

 

Hello Alan

 

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. We 
appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.

 

Have a great day,

Apple Accessibility

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Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

2019-11-21 Thread Alan Lemly 
Hello List,

 

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of
the phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth
speaker and received the following reply:

 

Hello Alan

 

Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing.
We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is
currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be
resolved.

 

Have a great day,

Apple Accessibility

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