Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
Could you send an address you have tried so I can check to see if I can duplicate the issue? Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:01 AM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone wrote: thanks very much, Richard. With your advice, I went into BlindSquare with every confidence it would work. Much to my chagrin, the well-established addresses I entered reveal a search that cannot find those addresses. I know these are existing addresses, but for some reason the search engine cannot find them. so, I deleted the app and reinstalled. I experienced the same behavior. Do you have any other suggestions? This is most strange to me. Best, Keith On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Richard Turner wrote: You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the top left. Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to simulate location. Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, food, etc. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie wrote: I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the area you wish to simulate. In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not the same as you would use in the simulation mode. I hope this works. Marie -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route? hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=z27zSVxkcdBSwiXjCZhGPRRiDOMKRAh3Eo9j94U1KTo%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524d6g1ln%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=kHUZvcW%2BDMOiilJiAQNYARhgRiplF58jgbleYexFrM4%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
thanks very much, Richard. With your advice, I went into BlindSquare with every confidence it would work. Much to my chagrin, the well-established addresses I entered reveal a search that cannot find those addresses. I know these are existing addresses, but for some reason the search engine cannot find them. so, I deleted the app and reinstalled. I experienced the same behavior. Do you have any other suggestions? This is most strange to me. Best, Keith On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Richard Turner wrote: You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the top left. Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to simulate location. Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, food, etc. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie wrote: I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the area you wish to simulate. In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not the same as you would use in the simulation mode. I hope this works. Marie -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route? hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=z27zSVxkcdBSwiXjCZhGPRRiDOMKRAh3Eo9j94U1KTo%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524d6g1ln%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=kHUZvcW%2BDMOiilJiAQNYARhgRiplF58jgbleYexFrM4%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=z27zSVxkcdBSwiXjCZhGPRRiDOMKRAh3Eo9j94U1KTo%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion o
Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the top left. Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to simulate location. Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, food, etc. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie wrote: I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the area you wish to simulate. In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not the same as you would use in the simulation mode. I hope this works. Marie -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route? hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=z27zSVxkcdBSwiXjCZhGPRRiDOMKRAh3Eo9j94U1KTo%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524d6g1ln%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=kHUZvcW%2BDMOiilJiAQNYARhgRiplF58jgbleYexFrM4%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=z27zSVxkcdBSwiXjCZhGPRRiDOMKRAh3Eo9j94U1KTo%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F3803ECA278AF4D74AC7CD37A81E986DC%2540RenoDevildata=02%7C01%7C%7C8365bac287f64087e57d08d7a913e655%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163775235050102sdata=A0z4PV%2BzFl3nq00BLb12xFhSu4Rl%2F%2BVLhtyHX1zOBYg%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a
Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
On the first screen of Blind Square, find the search button in the top left, not the my places search, but the plain search button. Enter the address, for example, I'm in Oregon, I put in a made up address, 500 Broadway, New York City, NY And found one place over 2 thousand miles away, I flicked right to that search result and double tapped. Then, flick right until you get to Simulate this location and double tap. You do not have to add it to My Places first. HTH, Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Feb 3, 2020, at 4:03 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone wrote: hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C40ad129db0894dd7178008d7a905ae07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163714161619338sdata=tZEF9ap00m4eTOOKh1aw0nd3OJ0PazbhkH9KwZs%2Bj1k%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F28fddd%2524d6g1ln%2540ironport10.mayo.edudata=02%7C01%7C%7C40ad129db0894dd7178008d7a905ae07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637163714161619338sdata=pKY4JdpR8eDPGTh5tkgNR9mHRkhExDIJAXgVj0de634%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB1901ED374BF388AE0A72F85CB7030%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the area you wish to simulate. In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not the same as you would use in the simulation mode. I hope this works. Marie -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route? hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24d6g1ln%40ironport10.mayo.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3803ECA278AF4D74AC7CD37A81E986DC%40RenoDevil.
I'm also interested in this answer: RE: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
I have an additional question as well. I like to go out for treks with my Seeing Eye dog through my neighborhood, which has the same start and end point (home). I want to explore routes through my area at home before I go out walking. Best, Terri Hedgpeth -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 5:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route? hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24d6g1ln%40ironport10.mayo.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00ea01d5daf9%2410d516d0%24327f4470%24%40gmail.com.
blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?
hi, I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind square so I can do a simulation of a route. I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure it out. can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant location and then simulate the route? my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a way around this. Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/28fddd%24d6g1ln%40ironport10.mayo.edu.
Re: Blind Square Help
Hi, GPS accuracy is less of a factor on this than is your orientation of the phone. Blind Square is not designed to be in your pocket. The top of the phone needs to be pointed in the direction you are walking for best results. Your current location is GPS, and your point of interest is GPS, but there is no way to give you a direction relative to the clock unless your getting a valid compass reading. This is why keeping it in your pocket is prone to errors. Just think about it. If you stand still, and rotate your phone in a circle, you will get different values for your target. It will walk around the clock as you turn you phone. So, if you rely on that feature, you must point your phone in the direction your facing. All you pocket people are prone to all sorts of errors in this case. Eileen's solution to have it report ordinal compass values is possible with just two GPS coordinates, but it's up to you to know what direction your are facing on the compass. Sometimes, GPS apps can extrapolate a direction based on your walking progress, but again, this is less accurate than a direct compass reading. I won't go into the math here. Regardless, I think Blind Square doesn't support this calculation. Best. --k Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the questions. On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Blind Square Help
Hello, Just an add on to various compass solutions. While in my blindness training, I was taught to use the sun (if present). This won't work well if on a cloudy or rainy day. The other solution is to purchase a braille or talking compass. I do have one, but I am well-aware of which streets in my local area are north/south and east/west. I do carry my braille compass on me at all times though. HTH. Eileen -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kayaker Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Blind Square Help Hi, GPS accuracy is less of a factor on this than is your orientation of the phone. Blind Square is not designed to be in your pocket. The top of the phone needs to be pointed in the direction you are walking for best results. Your current location is GPS, and your point of interest is GPS, but there is no way to give you a direction relative to the clock unless your getting a valid compass reading. This is why keeping it in your pocket is prone to errors. Just think about it. If you stand still, and rotate your phone in a circle, you will get different values for your target. It will walk around the clock as you turn you phone. So, if you rely on that feature, you must point your phone in the direction your facing. All you pocket people are prone to all sorts of errors in this case. Eileen's solution to have it report ordinal compass values is possible with just two GPS coordinates, but it's up to you to know what direction your are facing on the compass. Sometimes, GPS apps can extrapolate a direction based on your walking progress, but again, this is less accurate than a direct compass reading. I won't go into the math here. Regardless, I think Blind Square doesn't support this calculation. Best. --k Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the questions. On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running
Blind Square Help
I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blind Square Help
Hi Inside shopping centers the location accuracy is not the best possible and this affets both location data and your current location info. -- mr. M01510 guide Loadstone-GPS Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672 hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600 B784 D02 Blind Treasures kirjoitti Subject: Blind Square Help Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:21:59 -0400 From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blind Square Help
Hello, While I was out yesterday, I noticed that Blind Square gave me an update on location using the wrong address and street. I was just beginning my walk, so I knew which street I was on and realized immediately that Blind Square was having a bad hair day at that moment. I have my directions set to cardinal. This way I can confirm which direction I am going using the sun if I feel that Blind Square is off. I really need to contact support to voice my concern and see how to get a more accurate reading out of the app. HTH. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Ari Moisio ar...@iki.fi wrote: Hi Inside shopping centers the location accuracy is not the best possible and this affets both location data and your current location info. -- mr. M01510 guide Loadstone-GPS Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672 hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600 B784 D02 Blind Treasures kirjoitti Subject: Blind Square Help Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:21:59 -0400 From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Blind Square Help
Hi. I walked yesterday and was getting wrong directions and noticed finally that I had put my phone in my front pocket bottom up instead of bottom down. I put it back in my pocket with the button up and bottom down and that made a big difference. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Blind Square Help Hello, While I was out yesterday, I noticed that Blind Square gave me an update on location using the wrong address and street. I was just beginning my walk, so I knew which street I was on and realized immediately that Blind Square was having a bad hair day at that moment. I have my directions set to cardinal. This way I can confirm which direction I am going using the sun if I feel that Blind Square is off. I really need to contact support to voice my concern and see how to get a more accurate reading out of the app. HTH. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Ari Moisio ar...@iki.fi wrote: Hi Inside shopping centers the location accuracy is not the best possible and this affets both location data and your current location info. -- mr. M01510 guide Loadstone-GPS Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672 hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600 B784 D02 Blind Treasures kirjoitti Subject: Blind Square Help Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:21:59 -0400 From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
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Did you hapen to check the GPS accuracy at that moment? If you don't have really good GPS accuracy, all bets are off. Richard Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, While I was out yesterday, I noticed that Blind Square gave me an update on location using the wrong address and street. I was just beginning my walk, so I knew which street I was on and realized immediately that Blind Square was having a bad hair day at that moment. I have my directions set to cardinal. This way I can confirm which direction I am going using the sun if I feel that Blind Square is off. I really need to contact support to voice my concern and see how to get a more accurate reading out of the app. HTH. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Ari Moisio ar...@iki.fi wrote: Hi Inside shopping centers the location accuracy is not the best possible and this affets both location data and your current location info. -- mr. M01510 guide Loadstone-GPS Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672 hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600 B784 D02 Blind Treasures kirjoitti Subject: Blind Square Help Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:21:59 -0400 From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit
Re: Blind Square Help
On the perfect conditions day, GPS can be as accurate as 15 feet. Typically, GPS is about as accurate as 30 to 60 feet. I have seen GPS be as inaccurate as three miles on a nicely completely overcast day. There is nothing any app can do when the GPS accuracy drops because of factors outside the device's control. Me thinks people forget how inaccurate GPS can be because Apple has found ways to make it more often fairly accurate. By the way, 15 feet is the length of the front of a plot of property, or the length of two stoundard-sized cars parked with a small space between them, and at any time you can be anywhere within that circle. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jun 2014, at 11:10, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, While I was out yesterday, I noticed that Blind Square gave me an update on location using the wrong address and street. I was just beginning my walk, so I knew which street I was on and realized immediately that Blind Square was having a bad hair day at that moment. I have my directions set to cardinal. This way I can confirm which direction I am going using the sun if I feel that Blind Square is off. I really need to contact support to voice my concern and see how to get a more accurate reading out of the app. HTH. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Ari Moisio ar...@iki.fi wrote: Hi Inside shopping centers the location accuracy is not the best possible and this affets both location data and your current location info. -- mr. M01510 guide Loadstone-GPS Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672 hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600 B784 D02 Blind Treasures kirjoitti Subject: Blind Square Help Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:21:59 -0400 From: Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com I've recently moved into a new home in which there is a shopping center in close walking distance so trying to utilize blind square to help me identify what stores are in the shopping center. Right now I have blind square set to announce directions via degree but it seems to be giving directions backwards. It will announce that a store is to the right when it is really to the left. I've tried placing the phone in my pocket facing different directions but doesn't seem to make a difference. Can someone who has used blind square more give me some suggestions? Lastly, does blind square seem to notify you more accurately when a destination is set as a favorite or if you search for a place and then start tracking it, or does it make a difference? Hope all this makes scence and someone can give me some tips. I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you
