Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Krister Ekstrom]

In the fleksy app, there are 5 buttons along the top, the rightmost of these is 
called ”more”. Here you get a list with different options in it. You want the 
one called settings. When you’ve double clicked this one, a dialog comes up 
with various settings to change. The one you want is a switch button named 
”voice feedback”. Make sure this one is on.

What do you mean you don’t see any keys? firstly, does Voiceover say ”Key pad” 
when touching the area where the keyboard pops up when in a text field? Do you 
hear a clicking sound when touching in the area? If not one of two things could 
have happened. 1, you haven’t allowed Fleksy full access which it has to have 
in order to function.
2, In the voiceover rotor, make sure ”direct touch” is enabled.
Hope this helps.
/Krister

> 18 jan. 2016 kl. 11:26 skrev Robin Christopherson 
> :
> 
> Christer
>  
> I think I must be doing something very wrong as I can’t see the speech option 
> and also I can’t see any keys at all when the Fleksy system keyboard is 
> active. Help!
>  
> Thanks, Robin.
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Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Robin Christopherson]

Christer

I think I must be doing something very wrong as I can’t see the speech option 
and also I can’t see any keys at all when the Fleksy system keyboard is active. 
Help!

Thanks, Robin.

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RE: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think when it comes to things like typing whether on the regular virtual 
keyboard or Fleksie and taking pictures whether for a photo or inside an app 
like Camfind, KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See etc. results vary greatly. Krister, for 
example, stated several times that he can't take a good picture if his life 
depended on it yet he is proficient with Fleksie which many others have 
problems with.
This just goes to show that we all have different skills, talents and some are 
good at something without trying hard and others just can't do it. I tried 
Fleksie again after reading Krister's message and while I was able to type some 
stuff, I don't have the patience to spend a lot of time with it to see if I can 
get really good at it. Just as others I had a heck of a time to get back to the 
regular keyboard and I followed Krister's advice about making sure voice 
guidance was on, key clicks was on, I initially made the keyboard large, but 
think that actually made it harder for me etc. One thing I seemed to have a 
hard time finding was that button to switch keyboards, on the regular Apple 
keyboard it is easy to find right to the left of the spacebar but unless you 
turn spacebar on the Fleksie keyboard has no spacebar since you swipe to insert 
a space. I was also a bit confused by all these themes and stuff. I'd really 
love it if Krister would take the time to produce a Podcast going over this 
from start to finish, e.g. how to first configure Fleksy and then to be 
inspired by what is possible I'd like to hear him type out a longer piece of 
text in an app like Notes just to see what is possible. How about it mein 
Freund!


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Monica Jones
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

No need for you to be flamed, but you sound as though you are flaming others 
yourself. No one is saying they can't learn Fleksy, they just need guidance. 
We all learn in different ways and different paces. Keep this in mind because, 
blind or not, there will come something that you will have difficulty with and 
need others help. As for me, I'll be glad to give it to you.


-Original Message-
From: Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems whatsoever, 
I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am using Voiceover. 
In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am using Fleksy exclusively.
As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not 
inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, and if 
one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding.
/Krister

> 15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly :
>
> Wayne,
>
> I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard 
> app and although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy 
> VO was easier and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties 
> in returning to the standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard 
> when I ran into situations that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't 
> working right which seemed a bit too often.
>
> I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO 
> from the Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to 
> support two apps but Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its 
> current iteration up through iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 
> 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to upgrade from iTunes 11.4 which will be 
> required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would think they could just make 
> Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend any resources on 
> it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated all that 
> frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their reasons.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use
>
> When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back 
> to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or 
> emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for 
> me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an 
> equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy 
> but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone 
> and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly

Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Monica Jones]

No need for you to be flamed, but you sound as though you are flaming others 
yourself. No one is saying they can't learn Fleksy, they just need guidance. 
We all learn in different ways and different paces. Keep this in mind 
because, blind or not, there will come something that you will have 
difficulty with and need others help. As for me, I'll be glad to give it to 
you.



-Original Message- 
From: Krister Ekstrom

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems 
whatsoever, I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am 
using Voiceover. In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am 
using Fleksy exclusively.
As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not 
inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, and 
if one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding.

/Krister


15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly :

Wayne,

I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard app 
and
although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy VO was 
easier
and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties in returning to 
the

standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard when I ran into situations
that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't working right which seemed a 
bit

too often.

I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO from 
the
Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to support two apps 
but
Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its current iteration up 
through
iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to 
upgrade
from iTunes 11.4 which will be required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would 
think

they could just make Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend
any resources on it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated
all that frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their 
reasons.


Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
for the blind/low vision. OH well.

Wayne

On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

What exactly do you have problems with?
Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click,

the

answer is yes.
Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the

preferences

of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If

you
think it's easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is 
in

the main menu of this app.
/Krister


14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
:

Sandy

I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
successfully as it's been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list
too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.

Thanks, robin.

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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Monica Jones]

Yeh, Sandy, when it first came out, I did well. However, with the bells and 
whistles, I have been thrown a wild curve for sure. I got to where I didn't 
like Fleksy and that kind of disappointed me, since they began with a 
fabulous idea.



-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 4:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

Krista,
Precisely! It is that learning curve but we are enquiring about. I have the 
latest version of fLeksy on my phone, but I keep taking it  out of my 
keyboard list because I find it unworkable. I haven't managed to write a 
single word with  it yet! I seem to keep seeing a keypad. sometimes, and I 
don't know how, the keyboard appears, and I input the word using the old 
pattern method, and then swipe right. but I don't hear a suggested word. I 
can only repeat, in the past, I was something of a power user of the early 
versions of fleksy and fleksy  vo. all the new bills and whistles seem to 
exclude me nowadays. so, from those of you who are doing so well, could you 
give us some tips, very basic ones, such as how to get it going at all!


Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Jan 2016, at 07:41, Krister Ekstrom  
wrote:


I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems 
whatsoever, I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am 
using Voiceover. In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am 
using Fleksy exclusively.
As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not 
inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, 
and if one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding.

/Krister


15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly :

Wayne,

I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard app 
and
although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy VO was 
easier
and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties in returning to 
the

standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard when I ran into situations
that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't working right which seemed a 
bit

too often.

I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO from 
the
Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to support two apps 
but
Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its current iteration up 
through
iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to 
upgrade
from iTunes 11.4 which will be required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would 
think

they could just make Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend
any resources on it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated
all that frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their 
reasons.


Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
for the blind/low vision. OH well.

Wayne


On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
What exactly do you have problems with?
Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click,

the

answer is yes.
Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the

preferences

of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If

you
think it's easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is 
in

the main menu of this app.
/Krister


14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
:

Sandy

I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
successfully as it's been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this 
list

too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.

Thanks, robin.

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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Krister Ekstrom]

Have you turned on the voice feedback in the preferences of the Fleksy app? If 
not, then that’s the first thing you want to do.
I don’t know if this is necessary at all, but in the extensions part of the 
fleksy app, there’s an extension called ”one handed mode” this is an useful 
extension to have at least on larger phones because it moves the keyboard and i 
believe it shrinks it as well, making it possible to only use one hand to type. 
I use it on my 6s+.
There’s also a section for increasing or decreasing keyboard size. When i 
started having good results with the keyboard was when i increased the size of 
the keyboard to large, this keyboard size is useful for practising until you 
feel you can get a grip on the keyboard.
Do you have any audible feedback from the keyboard at all?
Hth
/Krister

> 15 jan. 2016 kl. 11:20 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> :
> 
> Krista,
> Precisely! It is that learning curve but we are enquiring about. I have the 
> latest version of fLeksy on my phone, but I keep taking it  out of my 
> keyboard list because I find it unworkable. I haven't managed to write a 
> single word with  it yet! I seem to keep seeing a keypad. sometimes, and I 
> don't know how, the keyboard appears, and I input the word using the old 
> pattern method, and then swipe right. but I don't hear a suggested word. I 
> can only repeat, in the past, I was something of a power user of the early 
> versions of fleksy and fleksy  vo. all the new bills and whistles seem to 
> exclude me nowadays. so, from those of you who are doing so well, could you 
> give us some tips, very basic ones, such as how to get it going at all!
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 15 Jan 2016, at 07:41, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems 
>> whatsoever, I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am 
>> using Voiceover. In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am 
>> using Fleksy exclusively.
>> As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not 
>> inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, and 
>> if one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly :
>>> 
>>> Wayne,
>>> 
>>> I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard app and
>>> although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy VO was easier
>>> and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties in returning to the
>>> standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard when I ran into situations
>>> that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't working right which seemed a bit
>>> too often.
>>> 
>>> I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO from the
>>> Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to support two apps but
>>> Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its current iteration up through
>>> iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to upgrade
>>> from iTunes 11.4 which will be required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would think
>>> they could just make Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend
>>> any resources on it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated
>>> all that frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their reasons.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use
>>> 
>>> When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
>>> to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
>>> emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
>>> me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
>>> equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
>>> but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
>>> and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
>>> in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
>>> but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
>>> trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
>>> for the blind/low vision. OH well.
>>>

Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Krista,
Precisely! It is that learning curve but we are enquiring about. I have the 
latest version of fLeksy on my phone, but I keep taking it  out of my keyboard 
list because I find it unworkable. I haven't managed to write a single word 
with  it yet! I seem to keep seeing a keypad. sometimes, and I don't know how, 
the keyboard appears, and I input the word using the old pattern method, and 
then swipe right. but I don't hear a suggested word. I can only repeat, in the 
past, I was something of a power user of the early versions of fleksy and 
fleksy  vo. all the new bills and whistles seem to exclude me nowadays. so, 
from those of you who are doing so well, could you give us some tips, very 
basic ones, such as how to get it going at all!

Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Jan 2016, at 07:41, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems 
> whatsoever, I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am 
> using Voiceover. In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am using 
> Fleksy exclusively.
> As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not 
> inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, and 
> if one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding.
> /Krister
> 
>> 15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly :
>> 
>> Wayne,
>> 
>> I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard app and
>> although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy VO was easier
>> and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties in returning to the
>> standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard when I ran into situations
>> that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't working right which seemed a bit
>> too often.
>> 
>> I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO from the
>> Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to support two apps but
>> Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its current iteration up through
>> iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to upgrade
>> from iTunes 11.4 which will be required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would think
>> they could just make Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend
>> any resources on it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated
>> all that frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their reasons.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use
>> 
>> When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
>> to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
>> emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
>> me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
>> equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
>> but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
>> and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
>> in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
>> but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
>> trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
>> for the blind/low vision. OH well.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> What exactly do you have problems with?
>>> Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click,
>> the
>>> answer is yes.
>>> Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
>>> answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the
>> preferences
>>> of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If
>> you
>>> think it's easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is in
>>> the main menu of this app.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>>> 14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Sandy
>>>> 
>>>> I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
>>>> successfully as it's been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list
>>>> too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, robin.
>>>> 

Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Krister Ekstrom]

Do you have the keyboard click sounds on? If not, you can turn them on in the 
settings of Fleksy. The click sounds indicate that you’re indeed on the 
keyboard and typing.
/Krister

> 15 jan. 2016 kl. 10:26 skrev Robin Christopherson 
> :
> 
> Krister
>  
> I think my main problem is that, when quickly tapping out a word on the 
> keyboard and aiming for keys on the top row, I don’t know when I’m tapping 
> off the top of the keyboard and hence either the letters aren’t being 
> registered as part of the word or I’m even actually tapping things within the 
> document or moving my focus to that point etc. Tapping quickly as one does 
> when writing a word in Fleksy is quick enough to be treated as a double tap 
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Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Robin Christopherson]

Krister

I think my main problem is that, when quickly tapping out a word on the 
keyboard and aiming for keys on the top row, I don’t know when I’m tapping off 
the top of the keyboard and hence either the letters aren’t being registered as 
part of the word or I’m even actually tapping things within the document or 
moving my focus to that point etc. Tapping quickly as one does when writing a 
word in Fleksy is quick enough to be treated as a double tap so you can do all 
sorts of mischief by tapping off the top of the keyboard.

Thanks, Robin.

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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Krister Ekstrom]

I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems whatsoever, 
I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am using Voiceover. 
In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am using Fleksy exclusively.
As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not 
inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, and if 
one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding.
/Krister

> 15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly :
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard app and
> although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy VO was easier
> and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties in returning to the
> standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard when I ran into situations
> that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't working right which seemed a bit
> too often.
> 
> I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO from the
> Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to support two apps but
> Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its current iteration up through
> iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to upgrade
> from iTunes 11.4 which will be required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would think
> they could just make Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend
> any resources on it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated
> all that frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their reasons.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use
> 
> When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
> to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
> emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
> me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
> equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
> but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
> and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
> in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
> but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
> trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
> for the blind/low vision. OH well.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> What exactly do you have problems with?
>> Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click,
> the
>> answer is yes.
>> Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
>> answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the
> preferences
>> of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If
> you
>> think it's easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is in
>> the main menu of this app.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
>>> successfully as it's been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list
>>> too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, robin.
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RE: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Alan Lemly]

Wayne,

I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard app and
although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy VO was easier
and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties in returning to the
standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard when I ran into situations
that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't working right which seemed a bit
too often.

I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO from the
Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to support two apps but
Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its current iteration up through
iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to upgrade
from iTunes 11.4 which will be required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would think
they could just make Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend
any resources on it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated
all that frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their reasons.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
for the blind/low vision. OH well.

Wayne

On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> What exactly do you have problems with?
> Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click,
the
> answer is yes.
> Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
> answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the
preferences
> of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If
you
> think it's easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is in
> the main menu of this app.
> /Krister
>
>> 14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
>> :
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
>> successfully as it's been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list
>> too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.
>>
>> Thanks, robin.
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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Traci Duncan]

I continue to use the Fleksy VO app as well.  I could not get consistent, 
successful results with the native Fleksy app.  I sure wish they’d update the 
Fleksy VO app, or make it available as a separate native app.

Traci

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
> to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
> emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
> me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
> equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
> but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
> and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
> in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
> but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
> trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
> for the blind/low vision. OH well.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  > wrote:
>> What exactly do you have problems with?
>> Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click, the
>> answer is yes.
>> Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
>> answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the preferences
>> of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If you
>> think it’s easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is in
>> the main menu of this app.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
>>> successfully as it’s been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list
>>> too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, robin.
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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Wayne Merritt]

When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back
to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or
emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for
me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an
equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy
but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone
and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently
in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app,
but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of
trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app
for the blind/low vision. OH well.

Wayne

On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> What exactly do you have problems with?
> Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click, the
> answer is yes.
> Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the
> answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the preferences
> of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If you
> think it’s easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is in
> the main menu of this app.
> /Krister
>
>> 14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson
>> :
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO
>> successfully as it’s been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list
>> too, so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.
>>
>> Thanks, robin.
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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Christina C.]

I also need a podcast. I tried it for a couple of hours straight, thinking I 
could conquer it, but I could not  figure it out or get Fleksy to type what I 
was trying to type. I could not get the current version to accurately guess 
what I was trying to type. I used to love the old stand alone version of Fleksy 
and it was amazingly accurate at guessing what I was typing. Now, I find that I 
actually had to feel around for the correct letters just like I do with the 
native keyboard. :( I also kept getting stuck in emojis and could not figure 
out how to get out of emoji and then I could not figure out how to get back to 
the native keyboard. At least I can use dictation. I wish I could use Fleksy 
when I am in loud environments or I do not have a strong enough signal for 
dictation. I’d also like to be able to use Fleksy when I don’t want prying ears 
listening to me dictate. :)  I would absolutely love a thorough walk through of 
fleksy. I feel pretty fluent using my iPhone but the Fleksy app has me totally 
baffled and I just can’t figure it out.

Christina 
> On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:07 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Robin,
> Being one of the early adopters of fleksy I find with the latest versions, in 
> fact, for a long time now, that I cannot use it. this, I know, is down to 
> user error, but can I work it out? No! so, I would like to join my voice to 
> yours in a cry for help with any hints tips and tricks and general 
> walk-throughs that anyone may have two offer.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 14 Jan 2016, at 11:51, Robin Christopherson 
> mailto:robin.christopher...@gmail.com>> 
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> 
>> Dear listers
>>  
>> I’d like to use Fleksy on my phone to help with typing but I can’t get to 
>> grips with using it as a system keyboard. Am I supposed to stay within the 
>> realms of the keyboard when both typing and swiping and should it be 
>> reporting each word that is entered?
>>  
>> I’d really appreciate someone doing a demo podcast covering the basics and 
>> going as far as the demoer would like to go, or having a Skype call with 
>> someone willing to go through it with me. If anyone is happy to do the 
>> latter please let me know off-list.
>>  
>> Thanks, Robin.
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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Krister Ekstrom]

What exactly do you have problems with?
Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and click, the 
answer is yes.
Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and the answer 
is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the preferences of the 
Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. If you think it’s 
easier for you with a big keyboardd. The setting for this is in the main menu 
of this app.
/Krister

> 14 jan. 2016 kl. 16:40 skrev Robin Christopherson 
> :
> 
> Sandy
>  
> I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO 
> successfully as it’s been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list too, 
> so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.
>  
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Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Robin Christopherson]

Sandy

I know that there are people using the system keyboard version with VO 
successfully as it’s been mentioned on podcasts and I think on this list too, 
so hopefully someone will assist us in our pitiful plight.

Thanks, robin.

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Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Robin,
Being one of the early adopters of fleksy I find with the latest versions, in 
fact, for a long time now, that I cannot use it. this, I know, is down to user 
error, but can I work it out? No! so, I would like to join my voice to yours in 
a cry for help with any hints tips and tricks and general walk-throughs that 
anyone may have two offer.

Sandy

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> On 14 Jan 2016, at 11:51, Robin Christopherson 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear listers
>  
> I’d like to use Fleksy on my phone to help with typing but I can’t get to 
> grips with using it as a system keyboard. Am I supposed to stay within the 
> realms of the keyboard when both typing and swiping and should it be 
> reporting each word that is entered?
>  
> I’d really appreciate someone doing a demo podcast covering the basics and 
> going as far as the demoer would like to go, or having a Skype call with 
> someone willing to go through it with me. If anyone is happy to do the latter 
> please let me know off-list.
>  
> Thanks, Robin.
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Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use

[Robin Christopherson]

Dear listers

I’d like to use Fleksy on my phone to help with typing but I can’t get to grips 
with using it as a system keyboard. Am I supposed to stay within the realms of 
the keyboard when both typing and swiping and should it be reporting each word 
that is entered? 

I’d really appreciate someone doing a demo podcast covering the basics and 
going as far as the demoer would like to go, or having a Skype call with 
someone willing to go through it with me. If anyone is happy to do the latter 
please let me know off-list.

Thanks, Robin.

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