Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
We use to call it joined up writing when the characters were written rather then printed. I was expecting better results but hand writing didn't seem to work all that well. Printing like a 5 year old worked better but I expected it to go much faster. Hopefully when I get my 5s it will. --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:10 PM Subject: RE: Handwriting is here in IOS7! I was just picturing upper and lower case letters from the Optacon days in my head. This is sort of off topic, but in the 1970's when I was trying to learn Morse code, when I'd hear the letters it was like feeling them with the Optacon first then the Braille equivalent. I often picture a printed word first which is odd. I can even, with difficulty in some cases write a note that is mostly readable based on my years with the Optacon. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Those old people amongst us who used an Optacon should be able to remember the letters. I think that they are using printed letters rather than cursive since they areeasier to recognize. On 9/18/13, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone
RE: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
Hi Annie, I guess, all the people who are blind from birth who did learn to use the Optacon had to learn print block letters and script. The people who had access to raised line drawing on machines like the Thermoform and others. I think most totally blind people from birth did learn how to sign their name but, that only covers very few letters of the alphabet. There are only 26 letters in the print alphabet so, I would think you could learn quite quickly if you contacted a group who do raised line drawing on that plastic paper. What I'm wondering is if IOS 7 will accept all capital block letters. If it does, there are only 26 letters to learn. As for the letters where you have to lift your finger, they are drawn with one finger and they planned the swiping to be done with 2 fingers so timing is probably the key. I'm looking forward to trying it. Ron Danvers Falling down is part of LIFE... Getting back up is LIVING... -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https
Handwriting is here in IOS7!
Awesome! This sounds just awesome! I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on seven!! It's 9:15 AM. When will seven be available for download? I thought it would of the early morning today. (Voice Converted to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
I agree. ...I'm wondering, how will this handwriting feature determine when one is finished writing the current letter rather than a new letter? For example, when writing the upper case letter E one must lift finger off of screen to draw the 3 horizontal dashes. How will this handwriting feature know I'm not wanting to draw a new letter? Guess this is some experimentation worth looking forward to. Smile. Joseph - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! This is a neat feature since people won't be able to hear our passwords any time we try to enter them. On 9/18/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was reading some of the content on the link provided in the following article, and I found the features of the new handwriting ability in IOS7 simply amazing, and features I can't wait to try--especially when in noisy environments and the new password entry feature. Do yourself a favor and take a couple of minutes to read the details of what this feature can do for you. Note: I've only pasted a small sample of what is in the link below, so don't forget to click and read the entire article. Maccessibility » Review - iOS 7 and VoiceOver http://maccessibility.net/2013/09/18/review-ios-7-and-voiceover/ The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard With the popularity of apps like Fleksy and MBraille, it is clear that some users find text entry on the software keyboard cumbersome or difficult, especially in certain situations. I must confess, I do not use either of these apps, as I have found my speed on the onscreen keyboard to be satisfactory, and use dictation when typing is inconvenient. That being said, Apple has provided a new feature to VoiceOver users that is a pretty impressive alternative to typing your text entry. Tucked away, hidden at the bottom of the option rotor settings in VoiceOver's settings, is an option simply called Handwriting. When entering text, you can select Handwriting from the rotor, and then use the screen as a canvas to literally draw printed characters. By default it starts in the category of lower case letters, but also includes recognition for uppercase letters, numbers, and punctuation. Simply draw a letter as it appears in printed form, and it is entered into the text field. Three-finger swipes up and down will change the category of character type you are entering. A two-finger swipe right will input a space, and a two-finger swipe left will backspace. If you know the shapes of printed characters, a little practice will find you entering letters at a pretty good clip in this mode. Having already mastered a pretty speedy technique with keyboard entry on my iOS devices, it has not yet overtaken my typing speed, but I can see where it might eventually, and certainly could for others who have trouble with keyboard entry. There are also occasions when typing is not optimal, such as in noisy surroundings, and this would definitely be handy in those situations. The great thing about doing text entry in this way, is that it limits the learning curve for those who are already familiar with the shapes of printed letters to almost zero. For those who are not, this is a great excuse to learn. You can also enter your pass code, if you keep one on your device, using the handwriting feature, and it will even default to numbers for this purpose. The Handwriting feature has other uses and modes, too. If turned on while you're on the home screen, you can start writing letters on the screen, and a list of apps beginning with those letters appears. Apps in this list can be anywhere on your device, and are not limited to those on the current screen or in the current folder. Use a two-finger swipe up or down to move through the list, and double-tap, as usual, to activate the app you want. Those who are familiar with the Item Chooser on Mac will find this functionality very familiar. When in web content, such as in Safari, Handwriting mode has yet another use. Write a letter corresponding to a rotor option, and VoiceOver switches to that form of navigation. For example, writing H switches to Headings, and two-finger swipes up and down will move you through the headings on the page. Draw an L, and now you are navigating links. This will be particularly nice for users who keep a lot of items in their rotor and want a faster way to move through various HTML element types. The accuracy of the recognition of this mode is superb, and with just a little practice, many users are likely to find they enjoy this form of text entry. Hats off to Apple for incorporating this in such a fluid and intuitive way. Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new
Handwriting is here in IOS7!
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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
I can see some characters posing a problem as they aren't a single gesture, so the intermediate steps could be seen as flicks and swipes and taps... take i for example, or t. Rh. - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! This is a neat feature since people won't be able to hear our passwords any time we try to enter them. On 9/18/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was reading some of the content on the link provided in the following article, and I found the features of the new handwriting ability in IOS7 simply amazing, and features I can't wait to try--especially when in noisy environments and the new password entry feature. Do yourself a favor and take a couple of minutes to read the details of what this feature can do for you. Note: I've only pasted a small sample of what is in the link below, so don't forget to click and read the entire article. Maccessibility » Review - iOS 7 and VoiceOver http://maccessibility.net/2013/09/18/review-ios-7-and-voiceover/ The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard With the popularity of apps like Fleksy and MBraille, it is clear that some users find text entry on the software keyboard cumbersome or difficult, especially in certain situations. I must confess, I do not use either of these apps, as I have found my speed on the onscreen keyboard to be satisfactory, and use dictation when typing is inconvenient. That being said, Apple has provided a new feature to VoiceOver users that is a pretty impressive alternative to typing your text entry. Tucked away, hidden at the bottom of the option rotor settings in VoiceOver's settings, is an option simply called Handwriting. When entering text, you can select Handwriting from the rotor, and then use the screen as a canvas to literally draw printed characters. By default it starts in the category of lower case letters, but also includes recognition for uppercase letters, numbers, and punctuation. Simply draw a letter as it appears in printed form, and it is entered into the text field. Three-finger swipes up and down will change the category of character type you are entering. A two-finger swipe right will input a space, and a two-finger swipe left will backspace. If you know the shapes of printed characters, a little practice will find you entering letters at a pretty good clip in this mode. Having already mastered a pretty speedy technique with keyboard entry on my iOS devices, it has not yet overtaken my typing speed, but I can see where it might eventually, and certainly could for others who have trouble with keyboard entry. There are also occasions when typing is not optimal, such as in noisy surroundings, and this would definitely be handy in those situations. The great thing about doing text entry in this way, is that it limits the learning curve for those who are already familiar with the shapes of printed letters to almost zero. For those who are not, this is a great excuse to learn. You can also enter your pass code, if you keep one on your device, using the handwriting feature, and it will even default to numbers for this purpose. The Handwriting feature has other uses and modes, too. If turned on while you're on the home screen, you can start writing letters on the screen, and a list of apps beginning with those letters appears. Apps in this list can be anywhere on your device, and are not limited to those on the current screen or in the current folder. Use a two-finger swipe up or down to move through the list, and double-tap, as usual, to activate the app you want. Those who are familiar with the Item Chooser on Mac will find this functionality very familiar. When in web content, such as in Safari, Handwriting mode has yet another use. Write a letter corresponding to a rotor option, and VoiceOver switches to that form of navigation. For example, writing H switches to Headings, and two-finger swipes up and down will move you through the headings on the page. Draw an L, and now you are navigating links. This will be particularly nice for users who keep a lot of items in their rotor and want a faster way to move through various HTML element types. The accuracy of the recognition of this mode is superb, and with just a little practice, many users are likely to find they enjoy this form of text entry. Hats off to Apple for incorporating this in such a fluid and intuitive way. Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
Those old people amongst us who used an Optacon should be able to remember the letters. I think that they are using printed letters rather than cursive since they areeasier to recognize. On 9/18/13, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com.
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I only know a few letters too but might consider trying to learn them again. I always found it confusing how you had different patterns for upper and lower case letters, having to learn two alphabets instead of one, and that's before you even think about joined up writing. Louise. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 18 September 2013 6:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3222/6177 - Release Date: 09/18
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I'm assuming it is no different than the symbolic patterns you have learned to type Braille characters. In other words, you have learned that you must place your fingers in a certain position to type the letter t, so it is now a matter of teaching your brain to automatically generate that same reflexive response to execute a single stroke from top to bottom then another stroke from left to right to handwrite the letter T. Again, with time and practice (just like you did when learning Braille characters), your muscle memory can be nonconciously utilized to type words using alpha-numeric strings of letters. I will also add that learning upper case letter will be easier than writing lower case letters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Carol, what an excellent idea! One can actually use this handwriting utility to practice and eventually learn how to write. VoiceOver will definitely give the user some sort of feedback when the letter is entered correctly, so why not use this to one's advantage in learning how to write letters when the letter has not been recognized by IOS. Also makes for a great time killer while waiting at the dentist office. ...Look at that, IOS7 has given us a free writing instructor! Smile. Joseph - Original Message - From: Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone
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Now, if we really could get into this, I would think seriously about looking for a stylus! Then I can see myself really writing with my pen! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 06:09 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming it is no different than the symbolic patterns you have learned to type Braille characters. In other words, you have learned that you must place your fingers in a certain position to type the letter t, so it is now a matter of teaching your brain to automatically generate that same reflexive response to execute a single stroke from top to bottom then another stroke from left to right to handwrite the letter T. Again, with time and practice (just like you did when learning Braille characters), your muscle memory can be nonconciously utilized to type words using alpha-numeric strings of letters. I will also add that learning upper case letter will be easier than writing lower case letters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Oh wait, I just thought of something... Since one has to use the rotor to select this handwriting mode, this is probably how Apple worked around the possibility of mistaking the strokes necessary to write a letter T from an IOS swiping gesture. In other words, it is the Rotor that tells IOS to ignore finger strokes and not think of them as gestures. Joseph - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! I can see some characters posing a problem as they aren't a single gesture, so the intermediate steps could be seen as flicks and swipes and taps... take i for example, or t. Rh. - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! This is a neat feature since people won't be able to hear our passwords any time we try to enter them. On 9/18/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was reading some of the content on the link provided in the following article, and I found the features of the new handwriting ability in IOS7 simply amazing, and features I can't wait to try--especially when in noisy environments and the new password entry feature. Do yourself a favor and take a couple of minutes to read the details of what this feature can do for you. Note: I've only pasted a small sample of what is in the link below, so don't forget to click and read the entire article. Maccessibility » Review - iOS 7 and VoiceOver http://maccessibility.net/2013/09/18/review-ios-7-and-voiceover/ The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard With the popularity of apps like Fleksy and MBraille, it is clear that some users find text entry on the software keyboard cumbersome or difficult, especially in certain situations. I must confess, I do not use either of these apps, as I have found my speed on the onscreen keyboard to be satisfactory, and use dictation when typing is inconvenient. That being said, Apple has provided a new feature to VoiceOver users that is a pretty impressive alternative to typing your text entry. Tucked away, hidden at the bottom of the option rotor settings in VoiceOver's settings, is an option simply called Handwriting. When entering text, you can select Handwriting from the rotor, and then use the screen as a canvas to literally draw printed characters. By default it starts in the category of lower case letters, but also includes recognition for uppercase letters, numbers, and punctuation. Simply draw a letter as it appears in printed form, and it is entered into the text field. Three-finger swipes up and down will change the category of character type you are entering. A two-finger swipe right will input a space, and a two-finger swipe left will backspace. If you know the shapes of printed characters, a little practice will find you entering letters at a pretty good clip in this mode. Having already mastered a pretty speedy technique with keyboard entry on my iOS devices, it has not yet overtaken my typing speed, but I can see where it might eventually, and certainly could for others who have trouble with keyboard entry. There are also occasions when typing is not optimal, such as in noisy surroundings, and this would definitely be handy in those situations. The great thing about doing text entry in this way, is that it limits the learning curve for those who are already familiar with the shapes of printed letters to almost zero. For those who are not, this is a great excuse to learn. You can also enter your pass code, if you keep one on your device, using the handwriting feature, and it will even default to numbers for this purpose. The Handwriting feature has other uses and modes, too. If turned on while you're on the home screen, you can start writing letters on the screen, and a list of apps beginning with those letters appears. Apps in this list can be anywhere on your device, and are not limited to those on the current screen or in the current folder. Use a two-finger swipe up or down to move through the list, and double-tap, as usual, to activate the app you want. Those who are familiar with the Item Chooser on Mac will find this functionality very familiar. When in web content, such as in Safari, Handwriting mode has yet another use. Write a letter corresponding to a rotor option, and VoiceOver switches to that form of navigation. For example, writing H switches to Headings, and two-finger swipes up and down will move you through the headings on the page. Draw an L, and now you are navigating links. This will be particularly nice for users who keep a lot of items in their rotor and want a faster way to move through various HTML element types. The accuracy of the recognition of this mode is superb
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Hello Annie, You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write in a very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and this particular feature may come in handy. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group.
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This is a neat feature since people won't be able to hear our passwords any time we try to enter them. On 9/18/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was reading some of the content on the link provided in the following article, and I found the features of the new handwriting ability in IOS7 simply amazing, and features I can't wait to try--especially when in noisy environments and the new password entry feature. Do yourself a favor and take a couple of minutes to read the details of what this feature can do for you. Note: I've only pasted a small sample of what is in the link below, so don't forget to click and read the entire article. Maccessibility » Review - iOS 7 and VoiceOver http://maccessibility.net/2013/09/18/review-ios-7-and-voiceover/ The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard With the popularity of apps like Fleksy and MBraille, it is clear that some users find text entry on the software keyboard cumbersome or difficult, especially in certain situations. I must confess, I do not use either of these apps, as I have found my speed on the onscreen keyboard to be satisfactory, and use dictation when typing is inconvenient. That being said, Apple has provided a new feature to VoiceOver users that is a pretty impressive alternative to typing your text entry. Tucked away, hidden at the bottom of the option rotor settings in VoiceOver's settings, is an option simply called Handwriting. When entering text, you can select Handwriting from the rotor, and then use the screen as a canvas to literally draw printed characters. By default it starts in the category of lower case letters, but also includes recognition for uppercase letters, numbers, and punctuation. Simply draw a letter as it appears in printed form, and it is entered into the text field. Three-finger swipes up and down will change the category of character type you are entering. A two-finger swipe right will input a space, and a two-finger swipe left will backspace. If you know the shapes of printed characters, a little practice will find you entering letters at a pretty good clip in this mode. Having already mastered a pretty speedy technique with keyboard entry on my iOS devices, it has not yet overtaken my typing speed, but I can see where it might eventually, and certainly could for others who have trouble with keyboard entry. There are also occasions when typing is not optimal, such as in noisy surroundings, and this would definitely be handy in those situations. The great thing about doing text entry in this way, is that it limits the learning curve for those who are already familiar with the shapes of printed letters to almost zero. For those who are not, this is a great excuse to learn. You can also enter your pass code, if you keep one on your device, using the handwriting feature, and it will even default to numbers for this purpose. The Handwriting feature has other uses and modes, too. If turned on while you're on the home screen, you can start writing letters on the screen, and a list of apps beginning with those letters appears. Apps in this list can be anywhere on your device, and are not limited to those on the current screen or in the current folder. Use a two-finger swipe up or down to move through the list, and double-tap, as usual, to activate the app you want. Those who are familiar with the Item Chooser on Mac will find this functionality very familiar. When in web content, such as in Safari, Handwriting mode has yet another use. Write a letter corresponding to a rotor option, and VoiceOver switches to that form of navigation. For example, writing H switches to Headings, and two-finger swipes up and down will move you through the headings on the page. Draw an L, and now you are navigating links. This will be particularly nice for users who keep a lot of items in their rotor and want a faster way to move through various HTML element types. The accuracy of the recognition of this mode is superb, and with just a little practice, many users are likely to find they enjoy this form of text entry. Hats off to Apple for incorporating this in such a fluid and intuitive way. Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
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I'm not sure what time zone you're in, but I've heard it should be available around 10AM Pacific. On 09/18/2013 11:19 AM, AppleGourmet wrote: Awesome! This sounds just awesome! I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on seven!! It's 9:15 AM. When will seven be available for download? I thought it would of the early morning today. (Voice Converted to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos) -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi, Keep in mind, you can’t just use any old stylus with an IOS device. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:47 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: Using a stylus is a great idea as the finger gets sweaty sometimes. They are easily available since they are still used for portable game machines. On 9/18/13, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Hello Annie, You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write in a very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and this particular feature may come in handy. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting
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Hi Rob, While thinking about this a bit... Apple may have worked around this by allowing just the slightest delay when executing the finger strokes used to handwrite an upper case letter E or letter T. That is, similar to how a double-tap work, the faster you execute the double-tap, the more likely you are to launch an app. If you want to double-tap, and if you wait too long, the double-tap will be registered as a single tap. This same tiny delay is probably used to register letters that necessitate the lifting of one's fingers off of the screen. ...Just thinking out loud. Smile. Joseph - Original Message - From: RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! I can see some characters posing a problem as they aren't a single gesture, so the intermediate steps could be seen as flicks and swipes and taps... take i for example, or t. Rh. - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! This is a neat feature since people won't be able to hear our passwords any time we try to enter them. On 9/18/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was reading some of the content on the link provided in the following article, and I found the features of the new handwriting ability in IOS7 simply amazing, and features I can't wait to try--especially when in noisy environments and the new password entry feature. Do yourself a favor and take a couple of minutes to read the details of what this feature can do for you. Note: I've only pasted a small sample of what is in the link below, so don't forget to click and read the entire article. Maccessibility » Review - iOS 7 and VoiceOver http://maccessibility.net/2013/09/18/review-ios-7-and-voiceover/ The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard With the popularity of apps like Fleksy and MBraille, it is clear that some users find text entry on the software keyboard cumbersome or difficult, especially in certain situations. I must confess, I do not use either of these apps, as I have found my speed on the onscreen keyboard to be satisfactory, and use dictation when typing is inconvenient. That being said, Apple has provided a new feature to VoiceOver users that is a pretty impressive alternative to typing your text entry. Tucked away, hidden at the bottom of the option rotor settings in VoiceOver's settings, is an option simply called Handwriting. When entering text, you can select Handwriting from the rotor, and then use the screen as a canvas to literally draw printed characters. By default it starts in the category of lower case letters, but also includes recognition for uppercase letters, numbers, and punctuation. Simply draw a letter as it appears in printed form, and it is entered into the text field. Three-finger swipes up and down will change the category of character type you are entering. A two-finger swipe right will input a space, and a two-finger swipe left will backspace. If you know the shapes of printed characters, a little practice will find you entering letters at a pretty good clip in this mode. Having already mastered a pretty speedy technique with keyboard entry on my iOS devices, it has not yet overtaken my typing speed, but I can see where it might eventually, and certainly could for others who have trouble with keyboard entry. There are also occasions when typing is not optimal, such as in noisy surroundings, and this would definitely be handy in those situations. The great thing about doing text entry in this way, is that it limits the learning curve for those who are already familiar with the shapes of printed letters to almost zero. For those who are not, this is a great excuse to learn. You can also enter your pass code, if you keep one on your device, using the handwriting feature, and it will even default to numbers for this purpose. The Handwriting feature has other uses and modes, too. If turned on while you're on the home screen, you can start writing letters on the screen, and a list of apps beginning with those letters appears. Apps in this list can be anywhere on your device, and are not limited to those on the current screen or in the current folder. Use a two-finger swipe up or down to move through the list, and double-tap, as usual, to activate the app you want. Those who are familiar with the Item Chooser on Mac will find this functionality very familiar. When in web content, such as in Safari, Handwriting mode has yet another use. Write a letter corresponding to a rotor option, and VoiceOver switches to that form of navigation. For example, writing H switches to Headings, and two-finger swipes up and down will move you through the headings on the page. Draw an L, and now
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
Using a stylus is a great idea as the finger gets sweaty sometimes. They are easily available since they are still used for portable game machines. On 9/18/13, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Hello Annie, You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write in a very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and this particular feature may come in handy. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
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No. Think geek sells a stylist that works with the iPhone. If you've ever seen the gloves that you can wear while typing on the iPhone, it's the same principle. Regular gloves block the conduction of electricity from your fingers to the iPhone screen. That's why there's silver threads running through them. I don't mean silver colored threads, but actual silver. At least, I'm pretty sure it's actual silver. I would think that the stylus works similarly. Thanks, Ari On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Your creativity is really impressive Carol! What you suggested is true, but I wonder if it will have to be some sort of overly expensive, apple approved stylus since it would have to interact with the IOS device screen. Smile. Joseph - Original Message - From: Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Now, if we really could get into this, I would think seriously about looking for a stylus! Then I can see myself really writing with my pen! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 06:09 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming it is no different than the symbolic patterns you have learned to type Braille characters. In other words, you have learned that you must place your fingers in a certain position to type the letter t, so it is now a matter of teaching your brain to automatically generate that same reflexive response to execute a single stroke from top to bottom then another stroke from left to right to handwrite the letter T. Again, with time and practice (just like you did when learning Braille characters), your muscle memory can be nonconciously utilized to type words using alpha-numeric strings of letters. I will also add that learning upper case letter will be easier than writing lower case letters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
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I know a little, though technically it's not handwriting, it's printing. Usually when people say that something is hand written, they mean cursive, or at least, that's what I've noticed. I'll be interested to try out this feature and see how it works with my horrible printing. :) Thanks, Ari On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Probably you're right about the muscle memory thing. Also, I can attest to the fact that learning uppercase is easier than learning lowercase. In fact, most of the print I know is uppercase. I learned off license plates, so I do know some forms of lowercase letters, but I am definitely not proficient with print. This new handwriting feature will probably give me an incentive to learn. I'll have fun with it, at least. Thanks, Ari On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming it is no different than the symbolic patterns you have learned to type Braille characters. In other words, you have learned that you must place your fingers in a certain position to type the letter t, so it is now a matter of teaching your brain to automatically generate that same reflexive response to execute a single stroke from top to bottom then another stroke from left to right to handwrite the letter T. Again, with time and practice (just like you did when learning Braille characters), your muscle memory can be nonconciously utilized to type words using alpha-numeric strings of letters. I will also add that learning upper case letter will be easier than writing lower case letters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
Well, I think Apple is using this word in its very literal sense, and if this is indeed the case, then hand-writing is an apt term. Smile. Printing nowadays is associated with something very different than writing, but you are definitely correct. Joseph - Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! I know a little, though technically it's not handwriting, it's printing. Usually when people say that something is hand written, they mean cursive, or at least, that's what I've noticed. I'll be interested to try out this feature and see how it works with my horrible printing. :) Thanks, Ari On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner
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Your creativity is really impressive Carol! What you suggested is true, but I wonder if it will have to be some sort of overly expensive, apple approved stylus since it would have to interact with the IOS device screen. Smile. Joseph - Original Message - From: Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Now, if we really could get into this, I would think seriously about looking for a stylus! Then I can see myself really writing with my pen! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 06:09 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming it is no different than the symbolic patterns you have learned to type Braille characters. In other words, you have learned that you must place your fingers in a certain position to type the letter t, so it is now a matter of teaching your brain to automatically generate that same reflexive response to execute a single stroke from top to bottom then another stroke from left to right to handwrite the letter T. Again, with time and practice (just like you did when learning Braille characters), your muscle memory can be nonconciously utilized to type words using alpha-numeric strings of letters. I will also add that learning upper case letter will be easier than writing lower case letters. Joseph - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com
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I'm glad you said something about the stylus. I'll check it out though. On 9/18/13, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I think Apple is using this word in its very literal sense, and if this is indeed the case, then hand-writing is an apt term. Smile. Printing nowadays is associated with something very different than writing, but you are definitely correct. Joseph - Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! I know a little, though technically it's not handwriting, it's printing. Usually when people say that something is hand written, they mean cursive, or at least, that's what I've noticed. I'll be interested to try out this feature and see how it works with my horrible printing. :) Thanks, Ari On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have RP, so I lost my vision gradually once I entered my teens. Consequently, I was taught how to write, and I'm old enough for that to include cursive, so I'll be interested in this new feature. On 09/18/2013 12:40 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: Hello Annie, You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write in a very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and this particular feature may come in handy. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
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Hi John, I also don't like that it is difficult to swipe on an IOS device screen after one washes his or her hands. I often have to repeatedly swipe my fingertips on some sort of cloth, but out of impatience, often that cloth turns out to be my shirt. I do this to completely dry off all moisture from my fingers, and if I need to get something sent off, I execute a scrub gesture on my forearm to get my fingers all oily again. Smile. Will definitely have to look into a stylus for my iPod. Joseph - Original Message - From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Using a stylus is a great idea as the finger gets sweaty sometimes. They are easily available since they are still used for portable game machines. On 9/18/13, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: Hello Annie, You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write in a very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and this particular feature may come in handy. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone
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Really? I haven’t noticed this distinction made much. For example, If someone says, I have a hand written note, I don’t think it’s implied that the note is written in cursive or, printed. It just mean the note is written using the person hand, and some sort of manual writing implement. haha. I know, it really doesn’t matter. Just saying. Plus, I could easily be mistaken. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote: I know a little, though technically it's not handwriting, it's printing. Usually when people say that something is hand written, they mean cursive, or at least, that's what I've noticed. I'll be interested to try out this feature and see how it works with my horrible printing. :) Thanks, Ari On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can manage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by
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I can do both cursive writing and print. I can't wait until seven comes out. I want to try the hand writing. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 19/09/2013, at 2:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
7 is out now or should be in your part of the world. On 18/09/2013 22:53, Margaret wrote: I can do both cursive writing and print. I can't wait until seven comes out. I want to try the hand writing. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 19/09/2013, at 2:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
I can only write my name so unfortunetly this feature may not be any use to me.:( - Original Message - From: AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Awesome! This sounds just awesome! I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on seven!! It's 9:15 AM. When will seven be available for download? I thought it would of the early morning today. (Voice Converted to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Handwriting is here in IOS7!
I was just picturing upper and lower case letters from the Optacon days in my head. This is sort of off topic, but in the 1970's when I was trying to learn Morse code, when I'd hear the letters it was like feeling them with the Optacon first then the Braille equivalent. I often picture a printed word first which is odd. I can even, with difficulty in some cases write a note that is mostly readable based on my years with the Optacon. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7! Those old people amongst us who used an Optacon should be able to remember the letters. I think that they are using printed letters rather than cursive since they areeasier to recognize. On 9/18/13, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now ! I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. Well done to Apple! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com: I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd be nice if you can print. Jenifer Barr Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and innovating for Voice Over users!! Isn't that great?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group
