RE: How to replace an iphone's battery.
Barbara, I understand the idea behind thinking being able to replace a battery would be desirable. However, with these modern Lithium batteries and the availability of external power banks there really is little or maybe I should say no reason why this would be of interest to people. You could never have a thin and sleek phone if you needed a battery cover and a compartment to hold an external battery. Waterproofness would not be impossible since for example all Garmin GPS's are IPX7 waterproof and most of them use AA batteries, but primarily it would add much in terms of size and bulk and really for nothing. It is actually possible to order battery replacement kits from Apple and I know sighted people who will use the special tools which come with the kit and then switch out their battery, but I so far have not heard of a blind person being able to do this and considering that you can have it done for $49 at an Apple Store I personally don't see much sense in it unless you really enjoy tinkering and like doing this sort of thing.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 2:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery. Before the iphone, I used to have two nochia phones with a specially installed screen reader on them. This made them pretty accessible. But The iphone is much better. I wouldn't go back, I was just saying that I wished that you could change the batteries as easily as you could with them. I never ever ever want to go back to to texting using a phone key bad, it was just terrible, lol. On Oct 14, 2022, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And I don't miss the days when I dropped my old flip phone or whatever I had at the time and phone, battery cover, battery and all came apart and were skittering down the street in different directions. I also remember buying an extra battery for some phone I had back then and paying $69 or $79 for just a second battery which of course was not a Lithium battery so it would develop a memory after a year or two. Now you go to Apple and for $49 they put in a new battery, doesn't sound very complicated to me and if I were at 80% battery capacity and were planning to keep my iPhone 8 for at least another year I would do it in a heartbeat. Of course you can always go back to a non-smartphone, pretty sure you can still get a flip phone, but then of course you can say good bye to accessible texting, contacts, GPS navigation, reading books on your phone, doing some quick OCR of some piece of mail lying on your desk, checking the weather, your bank balance and I could continue for several more lines listing things I do with my smartphone. Is an iPhone expensive? Yes, no doubt, but what about the $2,000 Canadian I spend on the HPPDA with MobileGeo back in 2005 or 2006 which was the first truly portable and accessible GPS. It had this funny overlay with the buttons so the touch screen of the PDA was pressed in the right places and one of the things I remember the most is how often I had to stop walking and reboot the thing because it wasn't working. Then there was the $500 for my Booksense and later when I had my first Windows 5.1 smartphone I had to buy MobileSpeak for $300 and MobileGeo for $900 to have a screenreader and GPS. I used to buy these little HTC smartphones which had the full keyboard with buttons and they were around $400 so add this up, $400 + $300 for the screenreader and $900 for the GPS and you now just spend $1,600 for an accessible smartphone with GPS. I could now go to an Apple Store and buy an iPhone SE 2022 for $579 Canadian and while this is Apple's "lowest-end" iPhone, it is still 5 times more stable and reliable and I can do 10 times as much with it. It's easy to forget what we had or did not have even 15 years ago and how far this technology has come and what Apple's move to making these devices accessible out of the box has done for accessibility in general. It's all too easy to complain about new bugs when a new version of iOS comes out and about the lack of accessibility in some apps, but let's face it, we do have it pretty good these days. Yes, I know Apple did not develop Voiceover on the Mac and all iOS devices, watches and Apple TV's out of pure goodness and all that, but they started the ball rolling in a direction nobody thought it could go before and to a large degree it is because of that why Android accessibility is what it is now, why Microsoft is putting a lot of effort into making Narrator a better experience and why just about every large company nowadays has some sort of accessibility department. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery. I like the non-smart phones
Re: How to replace an iphone's battery.
Before the iphone, I used to have two nochia phones with a specially installed screen reader on them. This made them pretty accessible. But The iphone is much better. I wouldn't go back, I was just saying that I wished that you could change the batteries as easily as you could with them. I never ever ever want to go back to to texting using a phone key bad, it was just terrible, lol. > On Oct 14, 2022, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > And I don't miss the days when I dropped my old flip phone or whatever I had > at the time and phone, battery cover, battery and all came apart and were > skittering down the street in different directions. > I also remember buying an extra battery for some phone I had back then and > paying $69 or $79 for just a second battery which of course was not a Lithium > battery so it would develop a memory after a year or two. > Now you go to Apple and for $49 they put in a new battery, doesn't sound very > complicated to me and if I were at 80% battery capacity and were planning to > keep my iPhone 8 for at least another year I would do it in a heartbeat. > Of course you can always go back to a non-smartphone, pretty sure you can > still get a flip phone, but then of course you can say good bye to accessible > texting, contacts, GPS navigation, reading books on your phone, doing some > quick OCR of some piece of mail lying on your desk, checking the weather, > your bank balance and I could continue for several more lines listing things > I do with my smartphone. Is an iPhone expensive? Yes, no doubt, but what > about the $2,000 Canadian I spend on the HPPDA with MobileGeo back in 2005 or > 2006 which was the first truly portable and accessible GPS. It had this funny > overlay with the buttons so the touch screen of the PDA was pressed in the > right places and one of the things I remember the most is how often I had to > stop walking and reboot the thing because it wasn't working. > Then there was the $500 for my Booksense and later when I had my first > Windows 5.1 smartphone I had to buy MobileSpeak for $300 and MobileGeo for > $900 to have a screenreader and GPS. I used to buy these little HTC > smartphones which had the full keyboard with buttons and they were around > $400 so add this up, $400 + $300 for the screenreader and $900 for the GPS > and you now just spend $1,600 for an accessible smartphone with GPS. I could > now go to an Apple Store and buy an iPhone SE 2022 for $579 Canadian and > while this is Apple's "lowest-end" iPhone, it is still 5 times more stable > and reliable and I can do 10 times as much with it. > It's easy to forget what we had or did not have even 15 years ago and how far > this technology has come and what Apple's move to making these devices > accessible out of the box has done for accessibility in general. It's all too > easy to complain about new bugs when a new version of iOS comes out and about > the lack of accessibility in some apps, but let's face it, we do have it > pretty good these days. Yes, I know Apple did not develop Voiceover on the > Mac and all iOS devices, watches and Apple TV's out of pure goodness and all > that, but they started the ball rolling in a direction nobody thought it > could go before and to a large degree it is because of that why Android > accessibility is what it is now, why Microsoft is putting a lot of effort > into making Narrator a better experience and why just about every large > company nowadays has some sort of accessibility department. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Michael Irons > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:18 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery. > > I like the non-smart phones where you could replace the battery yourself. > Unfortunately a lot of things on the non-smart phones were not accessible to > me. That is why I switched over to the iPhone. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Barbara Stahl > wrote: > > > Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself. Why > does it have to be so complicated. It makes me a bit nostalgic for my > non-smart phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace > the battery. > Thank you all so much for the info. > Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace > mine. The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me > several hours of use before it runs down. I hope to get a bit more milage > out of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive > lol. > > > On Oct 14, 202
RE: How to replace an iphone's battery.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Everything you have said is true, whole truth, nothing but the truth. Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 10:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How to replace an iphone's battery. And I don't miss the days when I dropped my old flip phone or whatever I had at the time and phone, battery cover, battery and all came apart and were skittering down the street in different directions. I also remember buying an extra battery for some phone I had back then and paying $69 or $79 for just a second battery which of course was not a Lithium battery so it would develop a memory after a year or two. Now you go to Apple and for $49 they put in a new battery, doesn't sound very complicated to me and if I were at 80% battery capacity and were planning to keep my iPhone 8 for at least another year I would do it in a heartbeat. Of course you can always go back to a non-smartphone, pretty sure you can still get a flip phone, but then of course you can say good bye to accessible texting, contacts, GPS navigation, reading books on your phone, doing some quick OCR of some piece of mail lying on your desk, checking the weather, your bank balance and I could continue for several more lines listing things I do with my smartphone. Is an iPhone expensive? Yes, no doubt, but what about the $2,000 Canadian I spend on the HPPDA with MobileGeo back in 2005 or 2006 which was the first truly portable and accessible GPS. It had this funny overlay with the buttons so the touch screen of the PDA was pressed in the right places and one of the things I remember the most is how often I had to stop walking and reboot the thing because it wasn't working. Then there was the $500 for my Booksense and later when I had my first Windows 5.1 smartphone I had to buy MobileSpeak for $300 and MobileGeo for $900 to have a screenreader and GPS. I used to buy these little HTC smartphones which had the full keyboard with buttons and they were around $400 so add this up, $400 + $300 for the screenreader and $900 for the GPS and you now just spend $1,600 for an accessible smartphone with GPS. I could now go to an Apple Store and buy an iPhone SE 2022 for $579 Canadian and while this is Apple's "lowest-end" iPhone, it is still 5 times more stable and reliable and I can do 10 times as much with it. It's easy to forget what we had or did not have even 15 years ago and how far this technology has come and what Apple's move to making these devices accessible out of the box has done for accessibility in general. It's all too easy to complain about new bugs when a new version of iOS comes out and about the lack of accessibility in some apps, but let's face it, we do have it pretty good these days. Yes, I know Apple did not develop Voiceover on the Mac and all iOS devices, watches and Apple TV's out of pure goodness and all that, but they started the ball rolling in a direction nobody thought it could go before and to a large degree it is because of that why Android accessibility is what it is now, why Microsoft is putting a lot of effort into making Narrator a better experience and why just about every large company nowadays has some sort of accessibility department. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery. I like the non-smart phones where you could replace the battery yourself. Unfortunately a lot of things on the non-smart phones were not accessible to me. That is why I switched over to the iPhone. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Barbara Stahl mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com> > wrote: Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself. Why does it have to be so complicated. It makes me a bit nostalgic for my non-smart phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace the battery. Thank you all so much for the info. Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace mine. The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me several hours of use before it runs down. I hope to get a bit more milage out of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive lol. On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote: Well, there is a self replacement program for iPhone batteries, but if my memory serves me correctly, you get about 100 pounds (weight not UK Currency) of tools that are required to do it as a loan. There was a lot of press about this about 6 months ago.
RE: How to replace an iphone's battery.
And I don't miss the days when I dropped my old flip phone or whatever I had at the time and phone, battery cover, battery and all came apart and were skittering down the street in different directions. I also remember buying an extra battery for some phone I had back then and paying $69 or $79 for just a second battery which of course was not a Lithium battery so it would develop a memory after a year or two. Now you go to Apple and for $49 they put in a new battery, doesn't sound very complicated to me and if I were at 80% battery capacity and were planning to keep my iPhone 8 for at least another year I would do it in a heartbeat. Of course you can always go back to a non-smartphone, pretty sure you can still get a flip phone, but then of course you can say good bye to accessible texting, contacts, GPS navigation, reading books on your phone, doing some quick OCR of some piece of mail lying on your desk, checking the weather, your bank balance and I could continue for several more lines listing things I do with my smartphone. Is an iPhone expensive? Yes, no doubt, but what about the $2,000 Canadian I spend on the HPPDA with MobileGeo back in 2005 or 2006 which was the first truly portable and accessible GPS. It had this funny overlay with the buttons so the touch screen of the PDA was pressed in the right places and one of the things I remember the most is how often I had to stop walking and reboot the thing because it wasn't working. Then there was the $500 for my Booksense and later when I had my first Windows 5.1 smartphone I had to buy MobileSpeak for $300 and MobileGeo for $900 to have a screenreader and GPS. I used to buy these little HTC smartphones which had the full keyboard with buttons and they were around $400 so add this up, $400 + $300 for the screenreader and $900 for the GPS and you now just spend $1,600 for an accessible smartphone with GPS. I could now go to an Apple Store and buy an iPhone SE 2022 for $579 Canadian and while this is Apple's "lowest-end" iPhone, it is still 5 times more stable and reliable and I can do 10 times as much with it. It's easy to forget what we had or did not have even 15 years ago and how far this technology has come and what Apple's move to making these devices accessible out of the box has done for accessibility in general. It's all too easy to complain about new bugs when a new version of iOS comes out and about the lack of accessibility in some apps, but let's face it, we do have it pretty good these days. Yes, I know Apple did not develop Voiceover on the Mac and all iOS devices, watches and Apple TV's out of pure goodness and all that, but they started the ball rolling in a direction nobody thought it could go before and to a large degree it is because of that why Android accessibility is what it is now, why Microsoft is putting a lot of effort into making Narrator a better experience and why just about every large company nowadays has some sort of accessibility department. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery. I like the non-smart phones where you could replace the battery yourself. Unfortunately a lot of things on the non-smart phones were not accessible to me. That is why I switched over to the iPhone. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote: Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself. Why does it have to be so complicated. It makes me a bit nostalgic for my non-smart phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace the battery. Thank you all so much for the info. Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace mine. The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me several hours of use before it runs down. I hope to get a bit more milage out of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive lol. On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Well, there is a self replacement program for iPhone batteries, but if my memory serves me correctly, you get about 100 pounds (weight not UK Currency) of tools that are required to do it as a loan. There was a lot of press about this about 6 months ago. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Barbara Stahl mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi! So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you have to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery and replace it myself? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. To uns
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I like the non-smart phones where you could replace the battery yourself. Unfortunately a lot of things on the non-smart phones were not accessible to me. That is why I switched over to the iPhone. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Barbara Stahl > wrote: > > > Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself. Why > does it have to be so complicated. It makes me a bit nostalgic for my > non-smart phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace > the battery. > Thank you all so much for the info. > Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace > mine. The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me > several hours of use before it runs down. I hope to get a bit more milage > out of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive > lol. > >>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>> >> Well, there is a self replacement program for iPhone batteries, but if my >> memory serves me correctly, you get about 100 pounds (weight not UK >> Currency) of tools that are required to do it as a loan. >> There was a lot of press about this about 6 months ago. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jonathan Cohn >> >> >> >>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Barbara Stahl >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone >>> battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you >>> have to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery >>> and replace it myself? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/B8ED0F11-1E61-48C4-B8B3-F740D1A13499%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/C5D92673-B476-43AF-9055-E5A0F8649D1D%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/91AE283B-4C73-4AC1-8200-CE5AA898FCC7%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/974903D1-D262-47BF-9F67-3000DB060361%40gmail.com.
Re: How to replace an iphone's battery.
Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself. Why does it have to be so complicated. It makes me a bit nostalgic for my non-smart phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace the battery. Thank you all so much for the info. Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace mine. The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me several hours of use before it runs down. I hope to get a bit more milage out of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive lol. > On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Well, there is a self replacement program for iPhone batteries, but if my > memory serves me correctly, you get about 100 pounds (weight not UK Currency) > of tools that are required to do it as a loan. > There was a lot of press about this about 6 months ago. > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > >> On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Barbara Stahl >> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone >> battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you >> have to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery >> and replace it myself? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/B8ED0F11-1E61-48C4-B8B3-F740D1A13499%40gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone, The Next Generation" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone2+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone2/C5D92673-B476-43AF-9055-E5A0F8649D1D%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/91AE283B-4C73-4AC1-8200-CE5AA898FCC7%40gmail.com.
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I have always had it done by apple. The last time it cost $49 and took 2 hours at the local store. Kim On 10/14/22, Barbara Stahl wrote: > Hi! > So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone > battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you > have to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery > and replace it myself? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B8ED0F11-1E61-48C4-B8B3-F740D1A13499%40gmail.com. > -- Kimberly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAC%2BYXV%2BjyFrBQTOqT3VYfbA_8St31TocPOqesc1m%2BGM86WqPEg%40mail.gmail.com.
How to replace an iphone's battery.
Hi! So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you have to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery and replace it myself? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B8ED0F11-1E61-48C4-B8B3-F740D1A13499%40gmail.com.
