Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-15 Thread Malcolm Parfitt 
Perfectly correct, but that would not be apparent from the status bar.  So you 
would have to suspect a problem with your setup to go into Settings.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 15 Mar 2024, at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> For Wi-Fi connection you can see status in settings under Wi-Fi for the 
> connected router. Like below
> 
> Group TP-LINK_Power Strip_8089, No Internet Connection, Unsecure network, 
> Signal strength 3 of 3 bars rows 1 to 8 of 9 Top of screen, Settings
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:43 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in 
>> Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me 
>> if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've 
>> got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? 
>> I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or 
>> Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
>> So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
>> everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it 
>> does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether 
>> the INternet is connected, when I know it is!
>> So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
>> Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
>> VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
>> So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
>> online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
>> the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does 
>> show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal 
>> here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it 
>> shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); 
>> something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.
>> Thanks for any info.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
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Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-15 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
For Wi-Fi connection you can see status in settings under Wi-Fi for the 
connected router. Like below 

Group TP-LINK_Power Strip_8089, No Internet Connection, Unsecure network, 
Signal strength 3 of 3 bars rows 1 to 8 of 9 Top of screen, Settings

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:43 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in 
> Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me 
> if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got 
> the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do 
> see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or 
> Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
> So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
> everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it 
> does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether 
> the INternet is connected, when I know it is!
> So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
> Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
> VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
> So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
> online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
> the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does 
> show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal 
> here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it 
> shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); 
> something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Alex Stone 
I know that, but some people are difficult about things like that.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:No problem my friend, never will be.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:48 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Sorry Malcolm, I misunderstood youSent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:43, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:That is exactly my point.  You may have connectivity to your router but if that has no connection to the outside world then you will only be able to access local resources via that gateway.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Malcolm Parfitt 
No problem my friend, never will be.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:48 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Sorry Malcolm, I misunderstood youSent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:43, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:That is exactly my point.  You may have connectivity to your router but if that has no connection to the outside world then you will only be able to access local resources via that gateway.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Alex Stone 
Sorry Malcolm, I misunderstood youSent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:43, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:That is exactly my point.  You may have connectivity to your router but if that has no connection to the outside world then you will only be able to access local resources via that gateway.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Malcolm Parfitt 
That is exactly my point.  You may have connectivity to your router but if that has no connection to the outside world then you will only be able to access local resources via that gateway.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show the Wifi signal itse

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Alex Stone 
Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.Thanks f

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Malcolm Parfitt 
Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.Thanks for any info.GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a membe

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread joseph hudson 
Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No 
problem.

> On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:
> 
> I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to 
> the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity 
> problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to 
> the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is 
> having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. 
> 
> Debby
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?
> 
> I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.
> In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB 
> only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was 
> downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...
> I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the 
> individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have 
> wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for 
> such and such an app.
> Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely 
> say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back 
> on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.
> Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a 
> problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my 
> wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops 
> that are only connected via wi-fi.
> It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off 
> then back on approach.
> I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  
> When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for 
> however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our 
> data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is 
> why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?
> 
> I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, 
> and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on 
> the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the 
> Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see 
> the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, 
> or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
> So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
> everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it 
> does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether 
> the INternet is connected, when I know it is!
> So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
> Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
> VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
> So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
> online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
> the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does 
> show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal 
> here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it 
> shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); 
> something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Debby Hill 
I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to 
the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity 
problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to 
the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is 
having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. 

Debby
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.
In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB 
only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was 
downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...
I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the 
individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have 
wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for 
such and such an app.
Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say 
not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and 
have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.
Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a 
problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my 
wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that 
are only connected via wi-fi.
It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off 
then back on approach.
I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  
When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for 
however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data 
limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we 
leave it at the 1GB shared data.



Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, 
and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the 
IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery 
info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 
3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access 
Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does 
show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the 
INternet is connected, when I know it is!
So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show 
the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal here. For 
instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it shows if the 
Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); something like this is 
what I'm looking for in iOS.
Thanks for any info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Richard Turner 
I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.
In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB 
only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was 
downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...
I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the 
individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have 
wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for 
such and such an app.
Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say 
not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and 
have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.
Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a 
problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my 
wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that 
are only connected via wi-fi.
It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off 
then back on approach.
I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  
When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for 
however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data 
limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we 
leave it at the 1GB shared data.



Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) 
JAWS version 2024.2403.3


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, 
and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the 
IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery 
info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 
3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access 
Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does 
show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the 
INternet is connected, when I know it is!
So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show 
the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal here. For 
instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it shows if the 
Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); something like this is 
what I'm looking for in iOS.
Thanks for any info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

2024-03-14 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, 
and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the 
IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery 
info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 
3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access 
Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does 
show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the 
INternet is connected, when I know it is!
So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show 
the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal here. For 
instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it shows if the 
Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); something like this is 
what I'm looking for in iOS.
Thanks for any info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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