RE: Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Not sure if this is the problem or not, but to enter your passcode on the Apple 
Watch you need to double tap each digit. At least for me, and unless this has 
changed, touch typing doesn't work with the passcode on the Apple Watch.

Did you set up your passcode, and do you know what it is? Is not the same 
passcode you have on your iPhone.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 11:50 AM
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Subject: Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?


Hi, Group.
I erased Apple Watch SE, updated it and paired with 15Pro. Now it asks for 
passcode but the digits are dimmed.
What should I do to enter the passcode, please?
Thanks!
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RE: Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No idea, you may have to contact Apple Accessibility to get help with this.

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Fazil
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Hi, Group.
I erased Apple Watch SE, updated it and paired with 15Pro. Now it asks for 
passcode but the digits are dimmed.
What should I do to enter the passcode, please?
Thanks!
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Pass Code Digits Dimmed for Apple Watch SE?

[Mohammad Fazil]

Hi, Group.
I erased Apple Watch SE, updated it and paired with 15Pro. Now it asks for 
passcode but the digits are dimmed.
What should I do to enter the passcode, please?
Thanks!

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RE: Turning off pass code

[Debbie Downey]

I agree. I’ve never had one either until the other night when trying to set up 
a new Apple TV using my phone instead of entering everything manually and I had 
to set up a pass code!

 

I can handle one or the other but not both which it seems like that is what it 
was wanting me to do!

 

Debbie 

 

 

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Debbie:

 

I always turn off the pass code on my phone.  I live alone and always am very 
careful with my phone.  Always thought it was a pain to put in a passcode every 
time I wanted to do something on my phone.  

 

Many people will tell you it is a bad idea, but I have had an iPhone for six 
years with no passcode and no problem.

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Re: Turning off pass code

[Holly]

Debbie:

I always turn off the pass code on my phone.  I live alone and always am very 
careful with my phone.  Always thought it was a pain to put in a passcode every 
time I wanted to do something on my phone.  

Many people will tell you it is a bad idea, but I have had an iPhone for six 
years with no passcode and no problem.

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RE: Turning off pass code

[Debbie Downey]

HI Jen,

 

I got it turned off and wanted to switch to the touch ID instead. I finally got 
it to finish and it said that I could use my finger to unlock my phone but then 
it also wanted a pass code. I don’t want that so I double tapped on cancel and 
now I have neither a pass code or finger ID which is fine with me but I needed 
something to set up my Apple TV the other night using my phone. I’ll just leave 
it like this unless I’m forced to set either one again!

 

Debbie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2022 4:41 PM
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Hi Debbie,

 

At the very bottom of those settings under touch ID and passcode, then is a 
turn off passcode button. You'll have to enter your current passcode to turn it 
off.

 

jenn

Jenn and Kumi





On Oct 27, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Debbie Downey mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com> > wrote:



Hello,

 

I noticed that in the conversation about unlocking the phone that someone 
mentioned that they turned off their pass code. I would like to do that on my 
iPhone 8. I checked under Touch ID and Pass Code but there wasn’t anything 
there to tell me how to do this.

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie 

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Re: Turning off pass code

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Hi Debbie,At the very bottom of those settings under touch ID and passcode, then is a turn off passcode button. You'll have to enter your current passcode to turn it off.jennJenn and KumiOn Oct 27, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:Hello, I noticed that in the conversation about unlocking the phone that someone mentioned that they turned off their pass code. I would like to do that on my iPhone 8. I checked under Touch ID and Pass Code but there wasn’t anything there to tell me how to do this. Thanks! Debbie 



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Turning off pass code

[Debbie Downey]

Hello,

 

I noticed that in the conversation about unlocking the phone that someone
mentioned that they turned off their pass code. I would like to do that on
my iPhone 8. I checked under Touch ID and Pass Code but there wasn't
anything there to tell me how to do this.

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie 

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thanks, turning the phone completely off and back on worked with 
automatic lock and 1 minute and it is locked.


Margaret

On 9/8/2022 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock.
   I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment.
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my p

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Mr. Ed]

Now folks don't pay too much attention to this old Sieghard as he is getting a 
lot older up there in Canada and you know how the cold effect people. Also with 
that old ugly snoot of his it's a wonder his face ID works at all. 藍 
Mr. Ed


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
> unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
> 
> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
> I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
> someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  
> I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed 
> it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
>Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
> From: SoonerAnnie 
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi all,
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
> up Face ID with no diff

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Christopher Chaltain]

I've never seen this myself, but I do use some apps, like the BARD Mobile App, 
where you can configure it to not lock the phone while you're in the app.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
  I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Margaret,
> 
> Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no 
> screen activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is 
> causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock.
> 
> Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
> minutes it will lock.
> I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
> manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C664a088fdd56426168b808da91be2d91
> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637982543234426916%7CUnk
> nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw
> iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=9bXTibwuTYqCvWfFm06b%2Br7k13
> sWAE1YmToijCZosDg%3Dreserved=0
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Sieghard and All:
> 
> I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally 
> disable it.
> 
> I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone 
> powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it 
> locked when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off 
> when it isn't being used was saving the battery.
> 
> I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget 
> where I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in 
> the settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were 
> several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
> minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
> home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if 
> I'm misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the 
> proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?
> 
> I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
> talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long 
> day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am 
> not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" 
>  since it went silent on me almost immediately.
> 
> All help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Margaret
> 
> On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hello Margaret,
>>
>> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as 
>> backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off 
>> with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
>> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
>> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
>> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
>> settings.
>>
>> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
>> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it 
>> and you don't pl

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thank you for confirming I was in the right place.  Still no luck.  I 
had trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them before and 
maybe that's part of the problem.


Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:13 PM, davidmac1...@gmail.com wrote:

Open the Settings app on your iPhone.

Scroll down and double tap Display & Brightness.
In the Display and Brightness settings, double tap Auto-Lock.
Choose the amount of time you want your screen to stay on after you last touch 
your iPhone.
Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of per

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are times my iPhone 11 doesn't seem to lock automatically, I have it set 
to 1 minute, and typically a reboot fixes this. By reboot I mean turning the 
phone off completely and back on.
I have the same issue but also very rarely when the phone doesn't start 
charging when I put it down on my charging pad and once again this usually goes 
away if I turn the phone off and back on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:16 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
  I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work with them 
before.  At least I can do a manual lock.

Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Margaret,
> 
> Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no 
> screen activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is 
> causing the screen to refresh, it won't lock.
> 
> Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
> minutes it will lock.
> I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
> manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Sieghard and All:
> 
> I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally 
> disable it.
> 
> I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone 
> powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it 
> locked when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off 
> when it isn't being used was saving the battery.
> 
> I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget 
> where I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in 
> the settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were 
> several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
> minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
> home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if 
> I'm misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the 
> proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?
> 
> I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
> talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long 
> day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am 
> not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it" 
>  since it went silent on me almost immediately.
> 
> All help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Margaret
> 
> On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hello Margaret,
>>
>> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as 
>> backup for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off 
>> with Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
>> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
>> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
>> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
>> settings.
>>
>> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
>> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it 
>> and you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.
>>
>> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. 
>> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by 
>> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone 
>> to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked 
>> the more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my 
>> phone and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the 
>> weather to checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing 
>> online banking and using a variety of home automation devices like smart 
>> thermostats for my home and business, I have video c

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Richard,

I tried 2 more times with different amounts of time and it didn't lock. 
 I think Notifications and maybe Focus is my homework assignment. 
Smile.  I was having trouble with Notifications when I tried to work 
with them before.  At least I can do a manual lock.


Margaret


On 9/7/2022 3:06 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't talk and I 
can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day and I'm confused 
since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one of those and want my 
phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost 
immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I 

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Carolyn]

Mine is for five minutes. I'm thinking maybe the five minutes is five minutes 
after the last time the thing talked. I haven't tried it to see am good about 
turning mine off. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my 
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day 
and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one 
of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it 
went silent on me almost immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hello Margaret,
> 
> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
> for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
> Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
> settings.
> 
> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and 
> you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.
> 
> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. 
> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by 
> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone 
> to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the 
> more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone 
> and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to 
> checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking 
> and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my 
> home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my 
> business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at 
> home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an 
> Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to 
> sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I 
> guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a 
> day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and 
> unlock it to do something.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
> 
> The 

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for that explanation. All I know is that if Apple decides to offer this 
it will most likely be perfectly secure. In any case, as I stated before, for 
me Face Id is a much better option, I can use it when it's cold out and I am 
wearing gloves and it works whether my fingers are full of little cuts and wood 
glue.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 1:33 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

FYI: Pixels use an optical sensor. Essentially, it's a camera. Samsung uses 
ultrasonic sensors. These are more accurate and I believe capture more data 
points for which to make an unlock decision. It's been the case that 
fingerprint sensors, especially optical ones, do have some level of 
false-positive recognition. For more on the various types, check out 
https://www.androidpolice.com/optical-capacitive-and-ultrasonic-fingerprint-readers-how-do-they-work/

Thanks.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:11 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
And knowing Apple I doubt they would ever have a Touch Id side button on the 
phone or a Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone. If they bring Touch Id 
back at all it would be with an under-display sensor which meets their 
standards and given that article I recently read about the latest Google Pixel 
phone which has under-display Touch Id and where the writer's friend could 
unlock the phone with his finger even though it wasn't even registered I wonder 
how good it works.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID can be 
built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. They can also 
put the touch ID under the glass.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone.  Your iPhone supports face ID and 
entering your passcode.

Rob

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. 
It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use 
touch ID with needs to support touch ID.
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was 
a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you 
all have a good day. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone l

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Nimer Jaber]

FYI: Pixels use an optical sensor. Essentially, it's a camera. Samsung uses
ultrasonic sensors. These are more accurate and I believe capture more data
points for which to make an unlock decision. It's been the case that
fingerprint sensors, especially optical ones, do have some level of
false-positive recognition. For more on the various types, check out
https://www.androidpolice.com/optical-capacitive-and-ultrasonic-fingerprint-readers-how-do-they-work/

Thanks.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:11 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> And knowing Apple I doubt they would ever have a Touch Id side button on
> the phone or a Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone. If they bring
> Touch Id back at all it would be with an under-display sensor which meets
> their standards and given that article I recently read about the latest
> Google Pixel phone which has under-display Touch Id and where the writer's
> friend could unlock the phone with his finger even though it wasn't even
> registered I wonder how good it works.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Christopher Chaltain
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:10 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>
>
>
> On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID
> can be built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone.
> They can also put the touch ID under the glass.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Rob Armstrong
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>
>
>
> You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone.  Your iPhone supports face ID
> and entering your passcode.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Esther Levegnale
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>
>
>
> hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>
> Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it
> on. It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want
> to use touch ID with needs to support touch ID.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale 
> wrote:
>
> hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if
> there was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a
> lot. I hope you all have a good day. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required
> when you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone
> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and
> after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint,
> it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
> I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't.
> iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut
> down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and
> back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when
> you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I
> literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and
> back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some
> reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same
> goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again
> often go days without having to enter my passcode manually.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>
> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.
>
> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My
> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the
> App Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get
> apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes
> of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had
> to use the p

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And knowing Apple I doubt they would ever have a Touch Id side button on the 
phone or a Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone. If they bring Touch Id 
back at all it would be with an under-display sensor which meets their 
standards and given that article I recently read about the latest Google Pixel 
phone which has under-display Touch Id and where the writer's friend could 
unlock the phone with his finger even though it wasn't even registered I wonder 
how good it works.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID can be 
built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. They can also 
put the touch ID under the glass.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone.  Your iPhone supports face ID and 
entering your passcode.

Rob

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. 
It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use 
touch ID with needs to support touch ID.
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was 
a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you 
all have a good day. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, there is not, iPhones without a home button use Face Id and that has not 
changed with the iPhone 14's which were just announced this morning.
I am not saying it's impossible that Apple at some point will introduced 
under-display Touch Id which then would have a Touch Id sensor under a 
particular spot of the display, but since it wasn't included this year it would 
be the iPhone 15 next September at the earliest that would have it and I 
wouldn't hold my breath.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was 
a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you 
all have a good day. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[davidmac1957]

Open the Settings app on your iPhone.

Scroll down and double tap Display & Brightness.
In the Display and Brightness settings, double tap Auto-Lock. 
Choose the amount of time you want your screen to stay on after you last touch 
your iPhone.
Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 3:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my 
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day 
and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one 
of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it 
went silent on me almost immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hello Margaret,
> 
> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
> for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
> Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
> settings.
> 
> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and 
> you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.
> 
> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. 
> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by 
> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone 
> to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the 
> more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone 
> and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to 
> checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking 
> and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my 
> home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my 
> business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at 
> home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an 
> Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to 
> sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I 
> guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a 
> day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and 
> unlock it to do something.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do n

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Richard Turner]

Margaret,

Auto Lock under Display and brightness locks the phone when there is no screen 
activity.  If you touch the screen or something is running that is causing the 
screen to refresh, it won't lock.

Set it to five minutes, lay the phone down with nothing running and in five 
minutes it will lock.
I have mine set to 5 minutes because it is only there in case I forget to 
manually lock the phone when I won't be using it for a while.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:00 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally disable 
it.

I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone powered 
off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try having it locked 
when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought powering off when it 
isn't being used was saving the battery.

I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I forget where 
I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the word lock in the 
settings app.  I found one result for lock and never and there were several 
time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my 
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or if I'm 
misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and give the proper 
location and time period to choose for the way I use the phone?

I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen doesn't 
talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's been a long day 
and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I personally am not one 
of those and want my phone to lock relatively quickly after I use it"  since it 
went silent on me almost immediately.

All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hello Margaret,
> 
> As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
> for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
> Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
> Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
> Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
> Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
> settings.
> 
> Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume 
> if you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and 
> you don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.
> 
> As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. 
> There are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by 
> pressing the side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone 
> to lock relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the 
> more battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone 
> and use it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to 
> checking email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking 
> and using a variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my 
> home and business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my 
> business and have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at 
> home. Even if I don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an 
> Audible book while I am walking to or from work, at night before I go to 
> sleep and so on. I never counted how often I use my phone each day, but I 
> guess it must be at least 1 to 3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a 
> day I'd aay probably anywhere from 40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and 
> unlock it to do something.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
>

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Sieghard and All:

I want to keep Pass Code so it is available when needed and not totally 
disable it.


I think 3 people have said that it is not a good idea to have the phone 
powered off most of the time as I have been doing and I want to try 
having it locked when I'm not using it to save the battery.  I thought 
powering off when it isn't being used was saving the battery.


I set it to never lock when I first got the phone months ago and I 
forget where I did it.  I've spent hours this afternoon and tried the 
word lock in the settings app.  I found one result for lock and never 
and there were several time periods in minutes and I double tapped on 5 
minutes as an experiment.   It's been much longer than 5 minutes and my 
home screen is still talking.  I don't know if I missed a save button or 
if I'm misunderstanding something.  Could you please help me out and 
give the proper location and time period to choose for the way I use the 
phone?


I'm doing better with what I think is manual locking and the screen 
doesn't talk and I can press the home button and speech resumes.  It's 
been a long day and I'm confused since I don't understand your saying "I 
personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock relatively 
quickly after I use it"  since it went silent on me almost immediately.


All help is greatly appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 1:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the cell and was 
trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 
30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
   Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Carolyn]

Same here, Sieghard. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
> unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
> 
> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
> I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
> someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  
> I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed 
> it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
>Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
> From: SoonerAnnie 
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi all,
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
> up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
> times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
> getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much 

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Carolyn]

I did not have to use my passcode, when I had touch ID< neither do I have to 
with Facial ID, unless for some reason, it doesn't take. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Hi Margaret.

I used to have an old iPhone with touch id. I don't think I had to enter my 
unlock code to get it working.

I also wish touch id were on the newer phones. I found them much easier than 
face id.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Christopher Chaltain]

On iPhone’s you need to have a home button. On Android devices, touch ID can be 
built into the power button or a sensor on the back of the phone. They can also 
put the touch ID under the glass.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone.  Your iPhone supports face ID and 
entering your passcode.

Rob

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. 
It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use 
touch ID with needs to support touch ID.
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was 
a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you 
all have a good day. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Rob Armstrong]

You cannot use touch ID with your iPhone.  Your iPhone supports face ID and 
entering your passcode.

 

Rob

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

 

hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. 
It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use 
touch ID with needs to support touch ID.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!





On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was 
a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you 
all have a good day. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:



If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 

Margaret Thomas

Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM

To: V iPhone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

 

Good Evening:

 

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

 

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

 

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a &

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, Anthony, thank you so much. I use a 13 pro max iPhone. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. 
> It needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to 
> use touch ID with needs to support touch ID.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there 
>> was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I 
>> hope you all have a good day. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required 
>>> when you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone 
>>> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and 
>>> after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, 
>>> it will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
>>> I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. 
>>> iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut 
>>> down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and 
>>> back on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when 
>>> you simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I 
>>> literally go weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and 
>>> back on and the only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some 
>>> reason Face Id isn't working a few times one attempt after another (same 
>>> goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange reason. But typically I again 
>>> often go days without having to enter my passcode manually.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Margaret Thomas
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
>>> To: V iPhone list 
>>> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>>> 
>>> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.
>>> 
>>> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My 
>>> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the 
>>> App Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get 
>>> apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes 
>>> of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had 
>>> to use the pass code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I 
>>> installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple 
>>> ID but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct.
>>> 
>>> I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with 
>>> some mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every 
>>> time I use the phone.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>>> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>>> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time 
>>>> you unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Margaret Thomas
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
>>>> To: V iPhone list 
>>>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>>>> 
>>>> Good Evening:
>>>> 
>>>> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
>>>> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
>>>> 
>>>> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
>>>> being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and 
>>>> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have 
>>>> Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the 
>>>> App Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when 
>>>> I power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so 
>>>> typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id ins

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Anthony Vece]

Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It 
needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use 
touch ID with needs to support touch ID.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there 
> was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I 
> hope you all have a good day. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required 
>> when you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone 
>> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and 
>> after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it 
>> will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
>> I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. 
>> iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut 
>> down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back 
>> on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you 
>> simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go 
>> weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the 
>> only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't 
>> working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or 
>> for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without 
>> having to enter my passcode manually.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Margaret Thomas
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
>> To: V iPhone list 
>> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>> 
>> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.
>> 
>> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My 
>> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the 
>> App Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get 
>> apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes 
>> of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had 
>> to use the pass code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I 
>> installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID 
>> but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct.
>> 
>> I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with 
>> some mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time 
>> I use the phone.
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>>> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time 
>>> you unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Margaret Thomas
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
>>> To: V iPhone list 
>>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>>> 
>>> Good Evening:
>>> 
>>> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
>>> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
>>> 
>>> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
>>> being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and 
>>> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have 
>>> Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the 
>>> App Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when 
>>> I power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so 
>>> typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if 
>>> possible.  I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not 
>>> resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal 
>>> information on the cell.
>>> 
>>> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
>>> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
>>> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
>>> word and

Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there was 
a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I hope you 
all have a good day. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required 
> when you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone 
> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after 
> a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will 
> then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
> I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
> are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
> From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you 
> have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run 
> out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and 
> sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I 
> have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a 
> few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some 
> other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without having to 
> enter my passcode manually.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.
> 
> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My 
> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the 
> App Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps 
> and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not 
> being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use 
> the pass code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a 
> free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it 
> wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct.
> 
> I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
> mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
> the phone.
> 
> Margaret
> 
>> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
>> unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Margaret Thomas
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
>> To: V iPhone list 
>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>> 
>> Good Evening:
>> 
>> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
>> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
>> 
>> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
>> being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and 
>> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple 
>> ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App 
>> Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I 
>> power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing 
>> it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am 
>> not in a work or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand 
>> Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
>> 
>> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
>> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
>> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
>> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never. 
>>  I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that 
>> if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so 
>> little.  I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when 
>> I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
>>   Thanks,
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
>> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
>> From: SoonerAnnie

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Dennis Long]

Margaret You shouldn't power it off every time your done using it is meant to 
be on.  You could've used touch id to install that free app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 12:18 AM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
> unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
> 
> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
> I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
> someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  
> I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed 
> it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
>Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
> From: SoonerAnnie 
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi all,
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
> up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
> times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
> getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much 
> easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my 
> mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Thank you.

It's normal state is powered off and I might use it 3 times a day, but 
don't always use it every day.


When it was new and before I set locked to never, I could unlock it by 
pressing the home button.  Is locked supposed to be so the screen can't 
inadvertently be changed rather than for keeping unauthorized people 
out, or is it a sort of sleep thing where the battery isn't being used 
at 100% capacity?  If it is on and the battery is only slowly draining 
and I can press the home button and not have to do the Pass Code, it 
might be a solution.  I think locked has something to do with 
inactivity, but it is only for occasional use and is not my primary phone.


Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

On 9/7/2022 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the cell and was 
trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 
30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPho

RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Margaret,

As I already said in my previous email, you have to have a passcode as backup 
for Touch Id and you cannot unlock your phone after it was turned off with 
Touch Id, only the passcode will work here.
Another place where only the passcode works is if you want to go back into 
Settings > Touch Id and Passcode so even if you decide you want to turn off 
Touch Id/passcode, you do have to enter it in order to get into that area of 
settings.

Only you can know if you want to leave your phone open/unprotected. I assume if 
you kept it mostly at home, you don't have sensitive information on it and you 
don't plan to use Apple Pay then you could disable passcode/Touch Id.

As for the automatic locking of the phone that again is your preference. There 
are others on this list who prefer to lock their phone manually by pressing the 
side button, I personally am not one of those and want my phone to lock 
relatively quickly after I use it because the more it is unlocked the more 
battery is used up. But then of course I have about 80 apps on my phone and use 
it constantly for anything from checking the time and the weather to checking 
email, sending and receiving text messages to doing online banking and using a 
variety of home automation devices like smart thermostats for my home and 
business, I have video cameras and a monitored alarm system at my business and 
have apps for that and I have video doorbell and cameras at home. Even if I 
don't actively use my phone I probably am listening to an Audible book while I 
am walking to or from work, at night before I go to sleep and so on. I never 
counted how often I use my phone each day, but I guess it must be at least 1 to 
3 or 4 times an hour so over the course of a day I'd aay probably anywhere from 
40 to 60 times when I grab my phone and unlock it to do something.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can and you better know what  your phone's passcode is because if you set 
up Touch Id you were only able to do so after also setting up an at least 
4-digit passcode. By default the iPhone now asks for a 6-digit passcode and you 
rather deliberately have to select the 4-digit option. If you ever power off 
your phone you need your passcode after it restarts, so far Apple has not 
budged from that requirement whether you use Touch Id or Face Id. Also, if you 
go to Settings > Face Id and Passcode or Touch Id and Passcode and want to make 
any changes, you have to enter  your passcode to get into that area, you cannot 
open that setting with Touch Id or Face Id.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

I've considered that myself.  However, I've had times, especially in the 
winter, when my hands tend to be dryer, that Touch ID doesn't always work.  I'm 
not sure how you would be able to access your phone if for some reason Touch ID 
wasn't responding, unless you could enter a pass code..

Karen P

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:04 PM
To: V iPhone list
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required when 
you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone you have 
to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and after a certain 
number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it will then ask for 
the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. iPhones 
are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut down at all. 
From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back on if you have 
strange issues or of course there could be a time when you simply run out of 
battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go weeks and sometimes 
months without turning my phone off and back on and the only time I have to put 
in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't working a few times one 
attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or for some other strange 
reason. But typically I again often go days without having to enter my passcode 
manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My memory 
is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the App Store 
instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get apps and had 
tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes of not being 
asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to use the pass 
code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I installed a free app 
from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but it wasn't a good 
day and my memory may not be correct.

I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with some 
mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time I use 
the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
> unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
> To: V iPhone list 
> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
> 
> Good Evening:
> 
> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
> 
> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
> my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might 
> power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, 
> Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  
> The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I 
> can usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
> problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work 
> or school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and 
> I do not have a lot of personal information on the cell.
> 
> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
> I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
> someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  
> I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed 
> it for other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
>Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
> From: SoonerAnnie 
> Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hi all,
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
> up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
> times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
> getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much 
> easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my 
> mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 

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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.

When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My 
memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on 
the App
Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get 
apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in 
hopes of not
being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had to 
use the pass code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I 
installed
a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID but 
it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct.


I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with 
some mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every 
time I

use the phone.

Margaret

On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the cell and was 
trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying locked what sounded every 
30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
   Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone



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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Karen Poulakos]

I've considered that myself.  However, I've had times, especially in the 
winter, when my hands tend to be dryer, that Touch ID doesn't always work.  I'm 
not sure how you would be able to access your phone if for some reason Touch ID 
wasn't responding, unless you could enter a pass code..

Karen P

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:04 PM
To: V iPhone list
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time 
and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I 
have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app 
on the App Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass 
code when I power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second 
time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead 
if possible.  I am not in a work or school situation and my house does 
not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal 
information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got 
the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept 
saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to 
never.  I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to 
change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the 
phone so little.  I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass 
code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when 
powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and 
have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll 
work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to 
unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my 
SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my 
finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without 
having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Dennis Long]

If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time you 
unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Dennis Long]

I will downgrade from a 13 pro to SE 2022 most likely.  I just prefer touch ID.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Hi Margaret.

I used to have an old iPhone with touch id. I don't think I had to enter my 
unlock code to get it working.

I also wish touch id were on the newer phones. I found them much easier than 
face id.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Margaret.

I used to have an old iPhone with touch id. I don't think I had to enter my 
unlock code to get it working.

I also wish touch id were on the newer phones. I found them much easier than 
face id.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.

The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line being 
my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and might power 
it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have Apple ID, Touch ID, 
and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the App Store.  The way 
things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when I power up.  I can 
usually do it correctly the first or second time so typing it isn't the 
problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if possible.  I am not in a work or 
school situation and my house does not resemble Grand Central Station and I do 
not have a lot of personal information on the cell.

The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to never.  
I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to change that if 
someone could explain why it would be good when I use the phone so little.  I'd 
greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass code for when I needed it for 
other things and could use Touch ID when powering on.
  Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.

Sent from my iPhone

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Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Evening:

The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.


The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time 
and might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I 
have Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app 
on the App Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass 
code when I power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second 
time so typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead 
if possible.  I am not in a work or school situation and my house does 
not resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal 
information on the cell.


The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got 
the cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept 
saying locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty" 
word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to 
never.  I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to 
change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the 
phone so little.  I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass 
code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when 
powering on.

 Thanks,

Margaret


On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:

Subject: Face ID hit or miss
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
From: SoonerAnnie 
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and 
have set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll 
work two or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to 
unlock my phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my 
SE 20 lol. It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my 
finger than to pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without 
having to type in my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks for reading.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Donna Casteen]

Also, turn the rotor while on the lock screen to confirm that screen 
recognition is not on. Having screen recognition on will cause the cursor to 
jump around on the screen.

Donna
 
> 
> 
> Louise, I think I have your password keyboard moving characters solved.  And 
> yes, I too miss the password clicks but I simply keep entering the 
> requirements and the field does indeed get filled.
> 
> Now then, once in the edit field, you can use the rotor to select exactly how 
> you want your keyboard to respond when entering characters,  To keep things 
> short, I set my rotor as follows:
> 
> 1I select "slide to type" to on.
> 
> 2. Turn your rotor until you hear "typing mode." Swipe down until you hear 
> "touch typing."
> 
> If you follow these steps everything will go as smooth as silk.  With these 
> settings, you simply slid your finger around and lift it when you year the 
> letter or symbol you want, and it just works.  There might be one more 
> adjustment you need to make in settings which I don't recall off hand.  Let 
> us know and I'll dig it up if this doesn't work for you.
> 
> On 2021-03-06 12:43 p.m., Louise Peyton wrote:
>> Yes.  I had a long conversation with Apple tech support on Friday.  I asked 
>> them that when they do a new version that they use haptic feedback because 
>> the numbers skip around.
>> Louise
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>>  
>> Do you double-tap?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Louise Peyton
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>>  
>> The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone skips to 
>> another number.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>>  
>> This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find “emergency” and flick 
>> left and right until the number I want speaks and then double tap on that.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Louise Peyton
>> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>>  
>> Hi:
>> I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
>> which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
>> pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers jumping around.  
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Louise Peyton
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>>  
>> Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
>> 1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere on your 
>> iPhone’s screen.
>> 2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, 
>> then perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone’s screen to 
>> enter this digit.
>> 3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have 
>> been successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.
>>  
>> This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around 
>> the screen to locate each digit of your passcode.
>>  
>> - Brad -
>> 
>>  
>> On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton  wrote:
>>  
>> Hello:
>> When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, 
>> I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
>> doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this 
>> is for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I 
>> cannot always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is 
>> there any way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all 
>> the time.  Thanks in advance.
>> Louise Peyton
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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Donna Casteen]

Hi,

The clicks are there when entering the lock screen passcode. The clicks are 
quiet, but can be heard if wearing earphones. Those with a hearing impairment 
may not be able to hear the clicks. The clicks are heard at the level that you 
hear them when typing out a message.

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi, Donna:
> My keyboard clicks are on.  Apple recently changed the clicks for the 
> passcode field to off for security reasons.  I had a lengthy conversation 
> with the apple tech support on Friday and pleaded that they change the no 
> clicks for passcode field to haptic feedback.  The tech said he’d send the 
> request on but who knows.
> Louise
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Go to settings, sounds & haptics, swipe down to keyboard clicks & tap to 
> toggle on.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> Hello:
> When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, 
> I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
> doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this 
> is for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I 
> cannot always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is 
> there any way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all 
> the time.  Thanks in advance.
> Louise Peyton
>  
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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[doug parisian]

Louise, I think I have your password keyboard moving characters solved.  
And yes, I too miss the password clicks but I simply keep entering the 
requirements and the field does indeed get filled.


Now then, once in the edit field, you can use the rotor to select 
exactly how you want your keyboard to respond when entering characters,  
To keep things short, I set my rotor as follows:


1I select "slide to type" to on.

2. Turn your rotor until you hear "typing mode." Swipe down until you 
hear "touch typing."


If you follow these steps everything will go as smooth as silk. With 
these settings, you simply slid your finger around and lift it when you 
year the letter or symbol you want, and it just works.  There might be 
one more adjustment you need to make in settings which I don't recall 
off hand.  Let us know and I'll dig it up if this doesn't work for you.


On 2021-03-06 12:43 p.m., Louise Peyton wrote:


Yes.  I had a long conversation with Apple tech support on Friday.  I 
asked them that when they do a new version that they use haptic 
feedback because the numbers skip around.


Louise

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 7:53 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Do you double-tap?

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

*Sent:* Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone 
skips to another number.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find “emergency” and 
flick left and right until the number I want speaks and then double 
tap on that.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Louise Peyton

*Sent:* Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi:

I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency 
button which made me go back. Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can 
I skip the pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers 
jumping around. Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Brad Snyder

*Sent:* Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:

1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere 
on your iPhone’s screen.


2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your 
passcode, then perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen to enter this digit.


3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode 
have been successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.


This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger 
around the screen to locate each digit of your passcode.


- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton <mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Hello:

When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field 
provided, I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the 
latest version of ios doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the 
right numbers. Apple says this is for security reasons. Because my 
hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot always get the numbers 
entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any way to get 
around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Louise Peyton]

Yes.  I had a long conversation with Apple tech support on Friday.  I asked 
them that when they do a new version that they use haptic feedback because the 
numbers skip around.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Do you double-tap?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone skips to 
another number.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find "emergency" and flick left 
and right until the number I want speaks and then double tap on that.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi:
I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I'm tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone's screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone's screen.
2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone's screen to enter this 
digit.
3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.

This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don't want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton

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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Louise Peyton]

Hi, Donna:
My keyboard clicks are on.  Apple recently changed the clicks for the passcode 
field to off for security reasons.  I had a lengthy conversation with the apple 
tech support on Friday and pleaded that they change the no clicks for passcode 
field to haptic feedback.  The tech said he'd send the request on but who knows.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 12:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi,

Go to settings, sounds & haptics, swipe down to keyboard clicks & tap to toggle 
on.

Donna


Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don't want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton

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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Donna Casteen]

Hi,

Go to settings, sounds & haptics, swipe down to keyboard clicks & tap to toggle 
on.

Donna

>  
> 
> Hello:
> 
> When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, 
> I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
> doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this 
> is for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I 
> cannot always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is 
> there any way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all 
> the time.  Thanks in advance.
> 
> Louise Peyton
> 
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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Brad Snyder]

you can go to Settings > TouchID & Passcode, and turn the passcode off.
Keep in mind, that doing this will disable TouchID, and you will not be able to 
use ApplePay or any features in the Wallet app.

- Brad -


On Mar 5, 2021, at 18:12, Louise Peyton  wrote:

Hi:
I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
 
Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen.
2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone’s screen to enter this 
digit.
3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.
 
This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.
 
- Brad -

 
On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton
 
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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Larry Lumpkin]

Do you double-tap?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

 

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone skips to 
another number.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

 

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find “emergency” and flick left 
and right until the number I want speaks and then double tap on that.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Louise Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

 

Hi:

I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.

Louise Peyton

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

 

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:

1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen.

2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone’s screen to enter this 
digit.

3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.

 

This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

 

- Brad -

 

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello:

When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.

Louise Peyton

 

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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Louise Peyton]

The number speaks but when I tap on it, all of a sudden the phone skips to 
another number.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find "emergency" and flick left 
and right until the number I want speaks and then double tap on that.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Hi:
I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I'm tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone's screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone's screen.
2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone's screen to enter this 
digit.
3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.

This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
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Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton

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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Nothing you can do, unless you want to disable security on your iPhone.

On 3/5/21, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> Hi:
> I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button
> which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the
> pass code and do something else?  I'm tired of numbers jumping around.
> Thanks in advance.
> Louise Peyton
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020
>
> Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
> 1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone's screen, touch anywhere on your
> iPhone's screen.
> 2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode,
> then perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone's screen to
> enter this digit.
> 3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have
> been successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.
>
> This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around
> the screen to locate each digit of your passcode.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton
> mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello:
> When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided,
> I end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios
> doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this
> is for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I
> cannot always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is
> there any way to get around this issue?  I don't want to use my keyboard all
> the time.  Thanks in advance.
> Louise Peyton
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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Larry Lumpkin]

This might not help but, on my old iphone 7, I find “emergency” and flick left 
and right until the number I want speaks and then double tap on that.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

 

Hi:

I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I’m tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.

Louise Peyton

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

 

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:

1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen.

2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone’s screen to enter this 
digit.

3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.

 

This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

 

- Brad -

 

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello:

When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
always get the numbers entered without the Bluetooth keyboard.  Is there any 
way to get around this issue?  I don’t want to use my keyboard all the time.  
Thanks in advance.

Louise Peyton

 

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RE: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Louise Peyton]

Hi:
I tried your suggestion and the numbers skipped around to emergency button 
which made me go back.  Still wrong pass code.  In settings, can I skip the 
pass code and do something else?  I'm tired of numbers jumping around.  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone's screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone's screen.
2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone's screen to enter this 
digit.
3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.

This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

- Brad -

On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
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Thanks in advance.
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Re: trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Brad Snyder]

Try the following, and see if this will work for you:
1.  With the passcode keypad on your iPhone’s screen, touch anywhere on your 
iPhone’s screen.
2.  Swipe left or right until you locate the first digit of your passcode, then 
perform a 1-finger double tap, anywhere on your iPhone’s screen to enter this 
digit.
3.  Repeat the above procedure until all the digits of your passcode have been 
successfully entered, and your iPhone is unlocked.
 
This method may work better for you than trying to move your finger around the 
screen to locate each digit of your passcode.

- Brad -


On Mar 5, 2021, at 14:48, Louise Peyton  wrote:

Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn’t make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
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Thanks in advance.
Louise Peyton

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trouble entering pass code on se 2020

[Louise Peyton]

Hello:
When I turn on my phone and try to enter the passcode in the field provided, I 
end up having to use a Bluetooth keybord because the latest version of ios 
doesn't make clicking sounds when I hit the right numbers.  Apple says this is 
for security reasons.  Because my hand shakes when holding the phone, I cannot 
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Thanks in advance.
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RE: Pass code.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you can dial a phone number you can also enter a passcode.


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Subject: Pass code.

If I make a pass code, how am I going to know which numbers I am dialing, 
please? 

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Re: Pass code.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I can't think of any other way to create a passcode.  That's what I
did when I created my 4 digit passcode for unlocking my phone when I
turn my phone on.

On 9/25/19, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> OK, Wayne. That was what I needed to know.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
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>
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> When I enter numbers on the keypad, VoiceOver speaks each number that I come
> across. It may not say the number when you double tap or type it, but you
> will know which number you are on.
>
> Wayne
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> On 9/25/19, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> If I make a pass code, how am I going to know which numbers I am
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RE: Pass code.

[Carolyn Arnold]

OK, Wayne. That was what I needed to know. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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When I enter numbers on the keypad, VoiceOver speaks each number that I come 
across. It may not say the number when you double tap or type it, but you will 
know which number you are on.

Wayne

On 9/25/19, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> If I make a pass code, how am I going to know which numbers I am 
> dialing, please?
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Re: Pass code.

[Wayne Merritt]

When I enter numbers on the keypad, VoiceOver speaks each number that
I come across. It may not say the number when you double tap or type
it, but you will know which number you are on.

Wayne

On 9/25/19, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> If I make a pass code, how am I going to know which numbers
> I am dialing, please?
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Pass code.

[Carolyn Arnold]

If I make a pass code, how am I going to know which numbers
I am dialing, please? 

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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Carolyn Arnold]

Would it ever make a world of difference. How I wish I could have had that - 
but managed over time with Hadley videos. I can't say enough about them. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
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Subject: RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
touch typing

Because somebody suggested it. I think poor Josh is getting entirely too much 
well-meaning advice.
Too bad he doesn't have somebody around who could sit down with him for an hour 
or two because it would make a world of difference.
Joshua, if you have any way to get to an Apple Store make an appointment and 
get one of their people to show you some stuff.

-Original Message-
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gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:32 PM
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touch typing

HI Joshua, 
Just out of curiosity, why did you select to use the touch typing? 
Janet 


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Subject: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch 
typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[kitty hevener]

I still use that method.  Call me strange, but the touch typing mode seems 
counterintuitive.  I am used to typing where you push down on the key you 
want instead of lifting away from it.  In the standard typing mode, I often 
use "split tap"  When u find the key you want, keep your finger on it. 
Then, use another finger to tap once.  Somehow that method, especially in 
the beginning seemed to help me keep my orientation.


-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Bullis

Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 7:41 PM
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touch typing


You also have the option of flicking to the right and double tapping on the 
number you want, if the touch and lift method isn't perfected quite yet for 
you. The flick gesture is the most basic one, like tab and shift tab on the 
computer. Also, if you can, have someone help you load the Looktel Voiceover 
tutorial app so you can practice the various gestures.

Matthew


On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Dave  wrote:

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double 
tap, before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use 
to the iPhone.


Dave.


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Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Because somebody suggested it. I think poor Josh is getting entirely too much 
well-meaning advice.
Too bad he doesn't have somebody around who could sit down with him for an hour 
or two because it would make a world of difference.
Joshua, if you have any way to get to an Apple Store make an appointment and 
get one of their people to show you some stuff.

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gross
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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touch typing

HI Joshua, 
Just out of curiosity, why did you select to use the touch typing? 
Janet 


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Joshua Hendrickson
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Subject: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch 
typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Arlene]

Joshua, this is how  we type on the screen, which you could try and we find 
easier. This is Arlene and the way I've gotten use to typing on the screen, 
knowing how the letters are arranged, I slide one of my fingers to the 
letters, and on each letter that I need in a word, when I find that letter I 
need, while my finger is still on it, than I tap with my other
finger for it to be typed. In fact that second finger I typed the letter 
with, could be anywhere on the screen since I have the first finger on that 
letter, while I tap with the other finger. It's interesting how we learn 
some of our own ways of doing things, since we can't visually watch one 
another, and this I found out with Wayne and I talking. Now in talking to 
him, I realize when I get to that right letter I need, I could just tap on 
it with that same finger that I found it with. In the last almost year and a 
half since we've had our phones, Wayne has been a bit a head of me in both 
navigating the screen and swiping, which he's helped me with. Okay here's 
how Wayne types on the screen. Okay with knowing the layout of the letters, 
as he finds each letter he needs, he just lifts his finger just slightly and 
taps the letters. Josh, this is probably something you already know, but on 
the chance you don't, which could make a difference,  when it comes to 
typing in the edit box. To type in the edit box, double tap on the edit box, 
and it will most likely say

insertion at end
which is what you want it to say, to be ready to type.
but in case it says
insertion at start
tap on it wonce more and it should say insertion at end, and you'll be ready 
to type.
If you would like some help, including actually talking all this and doing 
it, we would be happy to do this on the phone with you.
Joshua, some of this seems confusing now, but you can do it with all the 
help here.  and as you find your own  way in navigating the screen, finding 
apps you find useful and ones you enjoy, before you know it you'll be 
recomending goodies to all of us as far as great apps, the way you managed 
something and more, and you'll be helping  many of us too. After almost a 
year and a half we're still learning, and this group is one of the most 
helpful groups ever.

Arlene and Wayne
- Original Message - 
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To: 
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touch typing




Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[janet gross]

HI Joshua, 
Just out of curiosity, why did you select to use the touch typing? 
Janet 


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Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[janet gross]

HI Donna, 
Doesn't one have to have the typing feature added to the rotor? If so, did 
anyone tell Joshua how to do that?  
Janet 


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Subject: Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
touch typing

Hi

Have you tried using the rotor to change the typing mode?

Donna
> 
> Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
> the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
> my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
> minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.
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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[janet gross]

HI Joshua, 
I have to completely agree with what Dave is saying about the standard typing.  
Give it some thought.  
Janet 

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Dave
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:30 PM
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touch typing

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double 
tap, before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use 
to the iPhone.

Dave.


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Subject: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Matthew Bullis]

You also have the option of flicking to the right and double tapping on the 
number you want, if the touch and lift method isn't perfected quite yet for 
you. The flick gesture is the most basic one, like tab and shift tab on the 
computer. Also, if you can, have someone help you load the Looktel Voiceover 
tutorial app so you can practice the various gestures.
Matthew


On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Dave  wrote:

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double tap, 
before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use to the 
iPhone.

Dave.


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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Dave]

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double 
tap, before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use 
to the iPhone.


Dave.


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Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Alan Lemly]

Joshua,

With touch typing on, simply slide your finger over the numeric keypad and lift 
when the number you want is spoken. For example, if your passcode is 1234, 
slide your finger until you hear 1, then lift it and the 1 will be entered. 
Repeat this process for the other three numbers and you should be good to go.

Alan Lemly   

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> On Jun 9, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
> the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
> my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
> minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.
> 
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Alan Lemly]

Joshua,

With touch typing on, you simply move your finger over the numeric keypad and 
don't lift your finger until you hear the number you want. So, if your passcode 
is 1234, slide your finger until you hear the 1 and then lift it off the 
screen. The 1 will be input and you repeat that process for the other three 
numbers.

Alan Lemly  

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> On Jun 9, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
> the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
> my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
> minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.
> 
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Donna]

Hi

Have you tried using the rotor to change the typing mode?

Donna
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having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

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Re: Another pass code question

[Paula Mack]

I know that. I just wasn't sure if VoiceOver worked at the very beginning after 
a reset or update when you had to enter the passcode and that's why I never did 
it. Now I will because I want to switch from two-step verification to two 
factor.

Regards,
Paula Mack

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> If you set a passcode you will be required to enter this passcode before an 
> update can proceed and of course if you forget your passcode you will no 
> longer have access to your phone. Keep in mind that if that happens Apple 
> won't be able to help you, they can't recover a forgotten papsscode .
> In such a situation if you also have Find my iPhone turned on you wold have 
> to log in to your Apple Id on a computer using the iCloud.com website, turn 
> Find my iPhone off and then do a total reset of your phone.
> 
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> I have been wondering whether if I have a passcode on my phone, when I have 
> to update the firmware or reset the phone for some reason, with the initial 
> passcode prompt be voiced with VoiceOver? What if I can't put in the 
> passcode? Has anyone encountered this issue or is there nothing to worry 
> about?
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RE: Another pass code question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you set a passcode you will be required to enter this passcode before an 
update can proceed and of course if you forget your passcode you will no longer 
have access to your phone. Keep in mind that if that happens Apple won't be 
able to help you, they can't recover a forgotten papsscode .
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my iPhone off and then do a total reset of your phone.

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Subject: Another pass code question

I have been wondering whether if I have a passcode on my phone, when I have to 
update the firmware or reset the phone for some reason, with the initial 
passcode prompt be voiced with VoiceOver? What if I can't put in the passcode? 
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Re: Another pass code question

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, yes the initial prompt will be voiced by VoiceOver. You bet Apple put 
some thought into that. Smile.
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 19:55, Paula Mack  wrote:
> 
> I have been wondering whether if I have a passcode on my phone, when I have 
> to update the firmware or reset the phone for some reason, with the initial 
> passcode prompt be voiced with VoiceOver? What if I can't put in the 
> passcode? Has anyone encountered this issue or is there nothing to worry 
> about?
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Another pass code question

[Paula Mack]

I have been wondering whether if I have a passcode on my phone, when I have to 
update the firmware or reset the phone for some reason, with the initial 
passcode prompt be voiced with VoiceOver? What if I can't put in the passcode? 
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Re: Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code

[rajmund]

hi there,
after the update, click the more options, and click skip this step.

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On 30/03/17 1:26 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Running an SE with 9.33.  Does anyone know of a way to bypass / skip the
touch ID & pass code screens when updating to iOS 10.3?  All help will
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
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RE: Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I thought that was already fixed in 10.2.1.
As for bypassing touch Id and passcode, just don’t set up touch Id and when you 
come to where it asks you to set up a passcode, look for the button that says 
More Options or something like that and in there you have an option to not set 
up a passcode at all. Chances are it may prompt you to confirm that you are 
really sure you want to do this, but it’s there.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Did 10.3 ever fix the issues with the Focus 40 Blue? I've been holding out on 
Updating ever since that broke.

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If you did not have them on your phone, there should be a skip this step, or 
not now, button or something close to that.
If you had either on your phone, you will be asked for them in order to update.
HTH,
Richard


On Apr 2, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Mike B. 
<mb69ma...@charter.net<mailto:mb69ma...@charter.net>> wrote:
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Running an SE with 9.33.  Does anyone know of a way to bypass / skip the touch 
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appreciated.  Thanks much.
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Re: Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code

[Brent Harding]

Did 10.3 ever fix the issues with the Focus 40 Blue? I've been holding out on 
Updating ever since that broke.

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  If you did not have them on your phone, there should be a skip this step, or 
not now, button or something close to that.
  If you had either on your phone, you will be asked for them in order to 
update.
  HTH,
  Richard



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Hi All,

Running an SE with 9.33.  Does anyone know of a way to bypass / skip the 
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greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
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Re: Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code

[Richard Turner]

If you did not have them on your phone, there should be a skip this step, or 
not now, button or something close to that.
If you had either on your phone, you will be asked for them in order to update.
HTH,
Richard


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Hi All,

Running an SE with 9.33.  Does anyone know of a way to bypass / skip the touch 
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appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Bypassing Touch ID & Pass Code

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running an SE with 9.33.  Does anyone know of a way to bypass / skip the 
touch ID & pass code screens when updating to iOS 10.3?  All help will be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
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Re: Can not enter pass code on iPhone

[rajmund]

Hello,
I could help, possibly. Essentially, you put the phone in DFU mode, which you 
then restore through iTunes. After that, inable voice over, and can restore 
your contents.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 28 Aug 2016, at 4:50 pm, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> If you have an Apple Store near it maybe worthwhile for you to make a Genious 
> Bar appointment and see if they can help you with this.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Vicki Ratcliffe
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can not enter pass code on iPhone
> 
> 
> Perhaps someone can write to me off list at vicki.ratcli...@gmail.com to 
> give suggestions.
> 
> Yesterday I had my iPhone 5 on and when taking Amtrak home charged the 
> phone.  When starting to charge it, I noticed that there was not any speech 
> and I tried to enter the pass code when the screen reader finally worked.  
> When plugging the phone in to the mac today, it said “iphone disabled” and 
> even last night after the speech came on, I could not enter a code.
> 
> The phone is backed up to iTunes but iTunes does not connect to it using 
> the mac since I can not enter the pass code.  Calling Apple, I learned that I 
> would have to erase the phone and then restore it through iTunes.
> 
> Will voiceover work using recovery mode or what is the best way to erase 
> and restore the phone.  I have not forgotten the code at all but now do not 
> have use of a phone.
> 
> Thanks for any input that you can provide.
> 
> Vicki Ratcliffe
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RE: Can not enter pass code on iPhone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Vicky, 

I am so sorry to learn of your problem.  Wow!  

As Sieghard suggested, you really should take the phone into an Apple Store.

However, if that is not an option, to answer your question, using the Mac, Yes, 
you will be able to successfully erase and restore the phone via iTunes.  

Were I you, however, I would make certain that I had a good pear of eyes with 
me, just in case there is a problem.

I'm curious, how many times did you attempt to enter the unlock password to 
your phone before trouble began?  

Also, to your recollection, did you have the phone set to erase all data after 
10 failed attempts?  

Please keep us posted on this.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki Ratcliffe
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can not enter pass code on iPhone

 Perhaps someone can write to me off list at vicki.ratcli...@gmail.com to 
give suggestions.

 Yesterday I had my iPhone 5 on and when taking Amtrak home charged the 
phone.  When starting to charge it, I noticed that there was not any speech and 
I tried to enter the pass code when the screen reader finally worked.  When 
plugging the phone in to the mac today, it said “iphone disabled” and even last 
night after the speech came on, I could not enter a code.

 The phone is backed up to iTunes but iTunes does not connect to it using 
the mac since I can not enter the pass code.  Calling Apple, I learned that I 
would have to erase the phone and then restore it through iTunes.

 Will voiceover work using recovery mode or what is the best way to erase 
and restore the phone.  I have not forgotten the code at all but now do not 
have use of a phone.

 Thanks for any input that you can provide.

Vicki Ratcliffe

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RE: Can not enter pass code on iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you have an Apple Store near it maybe worthwhile for you to make a Genious 
Bar appointment and see if they can help you with this.

-Original Message-
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Vicki Ratcliffe
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can not enter pass code on iPhone


 Perhaps someone can write to me off list at vicki.ratcli...@gmail.com to 
give suggestions.

 Yesterday I had my iPhone 5 on and when taking Amtrak home charged the 
phone.  When starting to charge it, I noticed that there was not any speech and 
I tried to enter the pass code when the screen reader finally worked.  When 
plugging the phone in to the mac today, it said “iphone disabled” and even last 
night after the speech came on, I could not enter a code.

 The phone is backed up to iTunes but iTunes does not connect to it using 
the mac since I can not enter the pass code.  Calling Apple, I learned that I 
would have to erase the phone and then restore it through iTunes.

 Will voiceover work using recovery mode or what is the best way to erase 
and restore the phone.  I have not forgotten the code at all but now do not 
have use of a phone.

 Thanks for any input that you can provide.

Vicki Ratcliffe

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Can not enter pass code on iPhone

[Vicki Ratcliffe]

 Perhaps someone can write to me off list at vicki.ratcli...@gmail.com to 
give suggestions.

 Yesterday I had my iPhone 5 on and when taking Amtrak home charged the 
phone.  When starting to charge it, I noticed that there was not any speech and 
I tried to enter the pass code when the screen reader finally worked.  When 
plugging the phone in to the mac today, it said “iphone disabled” and even last 
night after the speech came on, I could not enter a code.

 The phone is backed up to iTunes but iTunes does not connect to it using 
the mac since I can not enter the pass code.  Calling Apple, I learned that I 
would have to erase the phone and then restore it through iTunes.

 Will voiceover work using recovery mode or what is the best way to erase 
and restore the phone.  I have not forgotten the code at all but now do not 
have use of a phone.

 Thanks for any input that you can provide.

Vicki Ratcliffe

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Re: the pass code and touch ID

[christopher hallsworth]

You can't. It's a security measure. This also applies if you do not unlock your 
phone after 48 hours.
> On 1 Apr 2016, at 23:20, Casey <cwoll...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
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> I have to enter my pass code.
> How or can I use the finger print for unlocking my phone with out the pass 
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Re: the pass code and touch ID

[Mary Otten]

No. If you were turning on your phone from booting it up, you must enter your 
code the first time. Then after that, as long as you don't shut the phone down, 
you can use your touch ID.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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> Now the first time I turn on my phone for the first time in the day.
> I have to enter my pass code.
> How or can I use the finger print for unlocking my phone with out the pass 
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the pass code and touch ID

[Casey]

Hi I have my thumb for unlocking my iPhone.
Now the first time I turn on my phone for the first time in the day.
I have to enter my pass code.
How or can I use the finger print for unlocking my phone with out the 
pass code being needed the first time I turn on my iPhone for the day?

If so how do you make that happen?


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Re: Pass code issue

[rajmund]

Hello,
settings, passcode, type in the passcode, now, in the menu, find turn off pass 
code, type in the pass code once more, and that should be it.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 1 Apr 2016, at 8:59 pm, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the response.  I understand its purpose.  Unfortunately, thus far, 
> no one has told me specifically just where to locate the option to get rid of 
> the passcode.
>  
> Don Roberts
>  
>  
> From: englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pass code issue
>  
> In order to change anything in the pass codes area, You need to enter the 
> passcode, and then change settings. It's a security measure to stop somebody 
> changing the passcode on you and locking you out of your phone.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
>> passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter 
>> a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
>> required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
>> settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
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Re: Pass code issue

[rajmund]

Hello, more options? it's after you install the update, only.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 1 Apr 2016, at 8:57 pm, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Where is it?  I find no such option.
>  
> Don Roberts
>  
>  
> From: rajmund
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pass code issue
>  
> Hi,
> there is. my 5S hasn't got one. After you enter the pass code, what are your 
> options? Oh, for future reference, choose password options, and there's an 
> option, not to add a pass code.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
>> passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter 
>> a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
>> required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
>> settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
>> passcode.  Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?
>>  
>> Don Roberts
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Re: Pass code issue

[christopher hallsworth]

Ok Don, I may update my spare iPhone 4s to 9.3 and see if I come across your 
issue. If I do, will report back. Otherwise you won't hear from me smile.
> On 1 Apr 2016, at 21:01, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Christopher.  I do appreciate your explanation.  Unfortunately, I 
> was not offered that option when I installed the passcode.
>  
> Truly, thanks to all who have responded.
>  
> Don Roberts
>  
>  
> From: christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:15 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Re: Pass code issue
>  
> There should have been a way not to enter a passcode during set up. If you 
> double tap on "passcode options" button, there is an option to "don't add a 
> passcode". Then you double tap continue to confirm you really don't want to 
> add a passcode.
> > On 1 Apr 2016, at 19:40, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
> > passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to 
> > enter a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now 
> > I am required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went 
> > into settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
> > passcode.  Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?
> >  
> > Don Roberts
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Re: Pass code issue

[Richard Turner]

Don,
When you go into the pass code settings, you have to enter the pass code.
Once in there, you should find an option to turn off the pass code, which you 
will have to verify again probably with the pass code.
Once you wade through all that you will be done with the pass code and anyone 
who picks up the phone will have full access to it.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Christopher.  I do appreciate your explanation.  Unfortunately, I 
> was not offered that option when I installed the passcode.
>  
> Truly, thanks to all who have responded.
>  
> Don Roberts
>  
>  
> From: christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:15 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Re: Pass code issue
>  
> There should have been a way not to enter a passcode during set up. If you 
> double tap on "passcode options" button, there is an option to "don't add a 
> passcode". Then you double tap continue to confirm you really don't want to 
> add a passcode.
> > On 1 Apr 2016, at 19:40, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
> > passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to 
> > enter a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now 
> > I am required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went 
> > into settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
> > passcode.  Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?
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Re: Pass code issue

[Donald L. Roberts]

Thank you Christopher.  I do appreciate your explanation.  Unfortunately, I was 
not offered that option when I installed the passcode.

Truly, thanks to all who have responded.

Don Roberts


From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:15 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Pass code issue

There should have been a way not to enter a passcode during set up. If you 
double tap on "passcode options" button, there is an option to "don't add a 
passcode". Then you double tap continue to confirm you really don't want to add 
a passcode.
> On 1 Apr 2016, at 19:40, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
> passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter 
> a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
> required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
> settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
> passcode.  Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?
>  
> Don Roberts
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Re: Pass code issue

[Donald L. Roberts]

Thanks for the response.  I understand its purpose.  Unfortunately, thus far, 
no one has told me specifically just where to locate the option to get rid of 
the passcode.

Don Roberts


From: englishride...@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Pass code issue

In order to change anything in the pass codes area, You need to enter the 
passcode, and then change settings. It's a security measure to stop somebody 
changing the passcode on you and locking you out of your phone.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 1, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter a 
code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a passcode. 
 Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?

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Re: Pass code issue

[Donald L. Roberts]

Where is it?  I find no such option.

Don Roberts


From: rajmund 
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Pass code issue

Hi,
there is. my 5S hasn't got one. After you enter the pass code, what are your 
options? Oh, for future reference, choose password options, and there's an 
option, not to add a pass code.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 1 Apr 2016, at 7:40 pm, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> wrote:


  When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter a 
code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a passcode. 
 Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?

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Re: Pass code issue

[rajmund]

Hi,
there is. my 5S hasn't got one. After you enter the pass code, what are your 
options? Oh, for future reference, choose password options, and there's an 
option, not to add a pass code.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 1 Apr 2016, at 7:40 pm, Donald L. Roberts <donald.robert...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
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> When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
> passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter 
> a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
> required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
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>  
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Re: Pass code issue

[englishrider91]

In order to change anything in the pass codes area, You need to enter the 
passcode, and then change settings. It's a security measure to stop somebody 
changing the passcode on you and locking you out of your phone.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Donald L. Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
> passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter 
> a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
> required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
> settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
> passcode.  Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?
>  
> Don Roberts
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Re: Pass code issue

[christopher hallsworth]

There should have been a way not to enter a passcode during set up. If you 
double tap on "passcode options" button, there is an option to "don't add a 
passcode". Then you double tap continue to confirm you really don't want to add 
a passcode.
> On 1 Apr 2016, at 19:40, Donald L. Roberts  wrote:
> 
> When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
> passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter 
> a code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
> required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
> settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a 
> passcode.  Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?
>  
> Don Roberts
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Pass code issue

[Donald L. Roberts]

When I upgraded my wife’s 4S to IOS 9.3, I was asked to choose a 
passcode.  So I entered a four-digit code.  There was no option not to enter a 
code.  There is of course no finger print option on the 4S.  So now I am 
required to enter the passcode whenever unlocking the screen.  I went into 
settings, and double tapped passcode.  The only option was to enter a passcode. 
 Is there no way to use 9.3 without a passcode?

Don Roberts

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entering pass code with the native Braille app

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi, all.  I came across an interesting little thing.  I'm not yet having
much luck with the finger print identifier, so I very often have to enter my
pass code to unlock my phone.  If I enter it on the on-screen keyboard the
numbers are announced.  If I, however, use the on-screen Braille mode, I
just hear the clicks with no number announcement.  Very nice if I'm on a bus
or out in public somewhere and need to unlock my phone.  Hopefully, I'll be
able to get the finger print identifier to work more reliably eventually and
won't need the pass code, but for now, it's a nice little feature.

God bless!

Paula and Boston  

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