RE: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
Tom, I am having them too. I am no longer having the threading issue only because I turned off threading for now because it's more trouble than it's worth to me right now. I keep hoping for improvement and being disappointed. I, too, use a braille display sometimes and it's really important for me to be able to use the mail app efficiently, which I don't feel able to do right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:36 AM To: vi-phone list Subject: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App Hi all, I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I want to read, at which time I can open it. Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey Braille support can be. Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the wilderness? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/035f01d5d7d0%24fe892d70%24fb9b8850%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
I have the same focus issue. I've also seen issues where expanded threads don't display correctly. For example, I'll see messages in the thread displayed outside of the thread in the mail list. I'll also delete the second message in a thread and then have two entries left for the one message left in the thread. It doesn't indicate anywhere that the thread is still expanded or even that there is a thread any more. Unfortunately these issues are kind of intermittent, so it may be hard to reproduce and debug. On 1/30/20 10:25 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Tom, you are not alone. I turned off message threading because it is more of a pain than it is worth. And, as for deleting messages, about half of the time I stay where it should, but just as often, I end up either back several messages, or on the back button. And I'm on the beta for what that is worth. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Tom, No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. As far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of the thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an apple fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the beginning. I think it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t know if it’s ever going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at some point. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi all, I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I want to read, at which time I can open it. Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey Braille support can be. Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the wilderness? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=yM0rEYqHd2mkxQHzg3tsSzoQIT5nS88pWN0UjFq4EDM%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FFAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=zYz%2FsaNadaPpE93u6lAexs63qf9SMGdx%2F6J4IYtYuYU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:
Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
I'm with Davy. You really can't over report this sort of bug. There is something to the old adage that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote: > > > Again and again > accessibil...@apple.com > bomb bomb bomb bomb and bomb again again and again > > I’ve recently had contact with a accessibility member of Apple who told me > that really and I believe him, very few people report bugs. > > Anybody pretends: I think others will report why should I do. I’m just > lazy! > > It is our own fault Apple won’t fix any bugs. Bomb and bomb again, tell it to > journalists tell it to newspapers, bomb Apples facebook and twitter accounts! > Davy > > From: Richard Turner > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App > > Tom, you are not alone. > I turned off message threading because it is more of a pain than it is worth. > And, as for deleting messages, about half of the time I stay where it should, > but just as often, I end up either back several messages, or on the back > button. > And I'm on the beta for what that is worth. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > >> On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. >> As far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of >> the thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an >> apple fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the >> beginning. I think it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t >> know if it’s ever going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at >> some point. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep >>> hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following >>> issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. >>> First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s >>> highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I >>> just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than >>> not I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a >>> message that I want to read, at which time I can open it. >>> Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty >>> good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, >>> and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find >>> the first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message >>> that I land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that >>> information won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me >>> started on how flakey Braille support can be. >>> >>> Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in >>> the wilderness? >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=yM0rEYqHd2mkxQHzg3tsSzoQIT5nS88pWN0UjFq4EDM%3Dreserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c
Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
Again and again accessibil...@apple.com bomb bomb bomb bomb and bomb again again and again I’ve recently had contact with a accessibility member of Apple who told me that really and I believe him, very few people report bugs. Anybody pretends: I think others will report why should I do. I’m just lazy! It is our own fault Apple won’t fix any bugs. Bomb and bomb again, tell it to journalists tell it to newspapers, bomb Apples facebook and twitter accounts! Davy From: Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App Tom, you are not alone. I turned off message threading because it is more of a pain than it is worth. And, as for deleting messages, about half of the time I stay where it should, but just as often, I end up either back several messages, or on the back button. And I'm on the beta for what that is worth. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Tom, No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. As far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of the thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an apple fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the beginning. I think it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t know if it’s ever going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at some point. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi all, I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I want to read, at which time I can open it. Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey Braille support can be. Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the wilderness? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=yM0rEYqHd2mkxQHzg3tsSzoQIT5nS88pWN0UjFq4EDM%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FFAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=zYz%2FsaNadaPpE93u6lAexs63qf9SMGdx%2F6J4IYtYuYU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F
Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
Tom, you are not alone. I turned off message threading because it is more of a pain than it is worth. And, as for deleting messages, about half of the time I stay where it should, but just as often, I end up either back several messages, or on the back button. And I'm on the beta for what that is worth. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Tom, No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. As far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of the thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an apple fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the beginning. I think it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t know if it’s ever going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at some point. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi all, I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I want to read, at which time I can open it. Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey Braille support can be. Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the wilderness? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=yM0rEYqHd2mkxQHzg3tsSzoQIT5nS88pWN0UjFq4EDM%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FFAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302072840sdata=zYz%2FsaNadaPpE93u6lAexs63qf9SMGdx%2F6J4IYtYuYU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca99e77684c4a46b5880e08d7a59259ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637159920302082839sdata=EmW%2B%2BIcnFO5SYIi4uVDulffYu8G6v%2B6prIIre3MG2YE%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit
Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
Hi Tom, No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. As far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of the thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an apple fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the beginning. I think it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t know if it’s ever going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at some point. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi all, > I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep > hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following > issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. > First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s > highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I > just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not > I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message > that I want to read, at which time I can open it. > Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty > good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, > and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the > first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I > land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information > won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how > flakey Braille support can be. > > Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the > wilderness? > > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0155125B-88B9-489F-BAE6-099831D91103%40gmail.com.
Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
Focus moving to the beginning of the email list after a deletion Is a known issue and has not been fixed yet Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi all, > I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep > hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following > issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. > First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s > highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I > just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not > I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message > that I want to read, at which time I can open it. > Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty > good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, > and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the > first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I > land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information > won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how > flakey Braille support can be. > > Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the > wilderness? > > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B78892A9-E153-4644-8CE1-D8CFD1FAB225%40gmail.com.
Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App
Hi all, I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m having with the native Mail app. First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I want to read, at which time I can open it. Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey Braille support can be. Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the wilderness? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FAD1D3A1-4354-4220-BB1C-1D19332ACC51%40gmail.com.
