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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

The Airpods Max here in Canada are $779 + taxes, since in Ontario you have 15% 
HST that means you would pay $ 895.85 for them.
The Airpods Pro are $329 + taxes and the Airpods Third Gen are $239 + taxes, 
still 274.85.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
verrier
Sent: January 1, 2022 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Have a look at the bose noise cancelling headphones.

The qc45 or the new ones which are something 700

And they are a lot cheaper than the apple max things.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2022 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

So are there some comparable options that wouldn’t be a complete waste of money?

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.

On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I use my bose NC700 headphones.  They sound very good to me.  I've
been using a set of anker headphones lately, and they also work very
well when listening to audio dramas, or bard books.  It all depends on
what you can afford.  I'm not saying that I'd never purchase a pair of
airpods max, but they are offly expensive.  However, I found some very
good deals on Ebay.

On 1/1/22, mich verrier  wrote:
> I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it
> does cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring
> in to the situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario
> Disibillidey support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills
> etc oncemy rent is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on
> but I am strickley talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play
> around with once the rent is taken off of my check every month since it is
> taken off automatically. So for instince I have never had enough to pay for
> a IPhone out right so I am stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the
> same go's forajy other apple products like the apple watch for example.
> Shure you can get one for 0 dollars down but you still have to pay it off
> over the years. It would be nice if programs hear in Ontario like the
> assistive divices program would support the purchis of different apple
> products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I filld out a servay that
> made that idea. My point is that I agree what people choose or not choose to
> spend there oney on is there choice how ever not everyone has the funds to
> upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what have you. For instince
> I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up verry well. Could I
> upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just wate. But for
> instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless and having
> bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for walks and
> stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How ever I am
> happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I thought
> they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about
> technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less
> so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape,
> but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth
> headset like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the
> border inform me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am
> talking about our currency.
> Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what
> they want and spend their money accordingly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months,
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS
> updates for a while.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much
> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago
> because I know I'd be replacing them by now.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy
> Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread mich verrier

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
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>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

True, and a very good point. This is why I don't presume to tell people what 
they should or shouldn't do and whether a particular product is worth the money 
or not. In addition to not knowing what other people's financial situation is, 
I also don't know how important different features are to someone and how much 
they're willing to pay for it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>>> Ambitions>> A 
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>>> x
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>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Sieghard
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone

I like the Sony WH1000XM4. It is very comfortable. Has great sound. Normally 
retails for $349 US. However, I got a Black Friday deal for two of them for my 
wife and I. They were $100 off for several weeks over the holidays.
Merv


> On Jan 1, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
> Happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
>> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
>> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
>> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
>> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
>> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
>> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
>> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
>> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
>> updates for a while.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
>> me by will be better in a year or two.
>> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much 
>> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago 
>> because I know I'd be replacing them by now.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
>> passes them by.
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> 
>>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>>> in or something.
>>> 
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
> 
> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
> Ambitions %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
> ved=0 
> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
> lsx?web=1>
> 
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Anthony Vece

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>>> Ambitions>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>>> ved=0 
>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>>> lsx?web=1>
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2022-01-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>> Ambitions> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>> ved=0 
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign  
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>> Ambitions> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

There have been rumors for quite some time, but earlier this year they 
apparently showed off something at a tech show in Germany and if you Google 
"When will Sonos release a headset" or something like that you find a lot of 
articles from reputable sources where it was expected this would happen in 
2021, but unless they'll make an announcement in the next 49 minutes it will be 
2022 if at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: December 31, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.
Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

--
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Andy Baracco

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
passes them by.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add 
the

headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the 
Airpods

Max dcost.

Best regards,
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Richard Turner

First, Mary, The batteries can be replaced when they die; or at least that is 
my understanding.
Second, Joshuah, I'm sure if you got an Apple Card you could pay them off in 
time.
If people think Sonos will come out with a pair of headphones for less; I will 
be surprised if they do and if their batery is driving Wi-Fi and bluetooth, who 
knows what that will look like.
I'm quite happy with my purchase.
But, to each his/her own.



Richard
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greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
> headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
> payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.
> 
>> On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
>> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
>> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
>> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
>> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
>> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
>> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year everyone
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
 plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
 I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
 issue of any lag. There isn't one.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
 lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
>> wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
> to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
> waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
> most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
> mention that the audio quality is amazing?
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
> and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
> figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
> in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
> the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
>> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
>> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
>> the Airpods Max dcost.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.

On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>
>> Happy new year everyone
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
>>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
>>> issue of any lag. There isn't one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
>>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>>>
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
> wrote:

 I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

 The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
 headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
 to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
 waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
 most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
 mention that the audio quality is amazing?

 Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
 “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
 and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
 figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
 in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
 the slightest.

 They’re worth it in my book.

 Ed


>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
> the Airpods Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Mary Otten

I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the 
same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on 
batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth 
speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember the 
days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for a 
decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in 
obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I 
> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved 
> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the 
> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty 
> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the 
> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
> 
> Happy new year everyone 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
>> of any lag. There isn't one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>>> 
>>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention 
>>> that the audio quality is amazing? 
>>> 
>>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>>> slightest.
>>> 
>>> They’re worth it in my book.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
 connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
 headphones:
 
  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
 
 So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
 headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
 true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
 Max dcost.
 
 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Lynda Ingraham

I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I think 
they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved the 
sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the AirPod 
max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty flat so as a 
side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the sounds great and now 
Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.

Happy new year everyone 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
> of any lag. There isn't one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>> 
>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that 
>> the audio quality is amazing? 
>> 
>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>> slightest.
>> 
>> They’re worth it in my book.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>>> Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Richard Turner

Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not plan 
to look for any other headset for music/movies.
I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue of 
any lag. There isn't one.




Richard
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greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
> that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
> personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
> they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair 
> of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality 
> is amazing? 
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
> Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for 
> a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid 
> of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
> Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Ed Worrell

I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair of 
headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality is 
amazing? 

Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for a 
very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid of 
the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.

They’re worth it in my book.

Ed

> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
> is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:
>  
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>  
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
> Max dcost.
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread chrisjudge1967

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.

Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames 

But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,

Depending on the price,

I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company 

Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,

Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain

So are there some comparable options that wouldn't be a complete waste of money?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.

On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn't read the 
artickle. From Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

Best regards,
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I've always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I'm sure I'd be all 
over these headsets. This doesn't mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I've had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I've got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I'll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

--
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Marco Curralejo

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money 
in my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier"  wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? 
Mycrosoft wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t 
read the artickle. From Mich.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:


Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
Max dcost.



Best regards,
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread mich verrier

Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
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Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

2021-12-31 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
> Ambitions
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods
> Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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