Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
I used update through itunes on a regular basis with good results. However, the last three times I did this the phone went in to a mode where itunes would not see it. The message on the screen as reported by the tech at the store each time was connect to itunes. Unfortunately, at this point, I would not get any feedback from the phone or the computer when the phone was connected. I've no explanation for this, this is just what occurred. Someone told me it might have been in DFu mode. All the best, Brian On 9/22/17, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Beta testers were strongly encouraged to update over the air throughout the > entire beta process. Restore images were offered, so it was possible to > update via iTunes, but the recommended way was over the air. So I'm sure > doing the non-beta update over the air is fine as well. > > Best, > Anna > > >> On Sep 22, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Lois; >> >> I also updated all my devices over the air including my iPad mini and nay >> watch and, my iPhone 7. >> >> I’ll be getting the iPhone 8 today. >> >> God Bless >> Anthony >> >>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 3:29 AM, Lois Butterfield <lbutterfield...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the >>> years, and I had no issues at all, and really never have. >>> >>> Take care, >>> Lois >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor >>> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> >>> I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes >>> would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free >>> space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, >>> but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is >>> pretty much the same. >>> >>> >>> On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, >>>> who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those >>>> updating over-the-air. >>>> >>>> I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple >>>> Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should >>>> elect to update via iTunes. >>>> >>>> If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, >>>> back then, confirming such a notion. >>>> >>>> Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) >>>> >>>> I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via >>>> iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a >>>> better experience. >>>> >>>> Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should >>>> reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>>> >>>> If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb >>>> download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are >>>> talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same >>>> issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for >>>> Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and >>>> while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute >>>> sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update >>>> so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of James Homuth >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>>> >>>> There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via >>>> iTunes. Since t
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
Hello, Beta testers were strongly encouraged to update over the air throughout the entire beta process. Restore images were offered, so it was possible to update via iTunes, but the recommended way was over the air. So I'm sure doing the non-beta update over the air is fine as well. Best, Anna > On Sep 22, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Lois; > > I also updated all my devices over the air including my iPad mini and nay > watch and, my iPhone 7. > > I’ll be getting the iPhone 8 today. > > God Bless > Anthony > >> On Sep 22, 2017, at 3:29 AM, Lois Butterfield <lbutterfield...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the >> years, and I had no issues at all, and really never have. >> >> Take care, >> Lois >> >> -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor >> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes >> would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free >> space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, >> but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is >> pretty much the same. >> >> >> On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who >>> in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating >>> over-the-air. >>> >>> I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store >>> told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to >>> update via iTunes. >>> >>> If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, >>> back then, confirming such a notion. >>> >>> Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) >>> >>> I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, >>> just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better >>> experience. >>> >>> Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall >>> via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> >>> If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb >>> download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are >>> talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues >>> as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in >>> iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may >>> have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of >>> download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t >>> have gone more smmothly. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of James Homuth >>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> >>> There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. >>> Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed >>> from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an >>> over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully >>> temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, >>> then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone >>> pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on >>> the phone away before doing the install. >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of goshawk on horseback >>> Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> Im
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
Lois; I also updated all my devices over the air including my iPad mini and nay watch and, my iPhone 7. I’ll be getting the iPhone 8 today. God Bless Anthony > On Sep 22, 2017, at 3:29 AM, Lois Butterfield <lbutterfield...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the years, > and I had no issues at all, and really never have. > > Take care, > Lois > > -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor > Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air > > I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes > would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free > space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, > but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is > pretty much the same. > > > On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who >> in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating >> over-the-air. >> >> I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store >> told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to >> update via iTunes. >> >> If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back >> then, confirming such a notion. >> >> Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) >> >> I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, >> just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. >> >> Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall >> via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). >> >> Mark >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb >> download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are >> talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as >> everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it >> told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have >> temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to >> Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more >> smmothly. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Homuth >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. >> Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed >> from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an >> over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully >> temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, >> then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone >> pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the >> phone away before doing the install. >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of goshawk on horseback >> Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> Importance: High >> I have to say that I think this is rubbish. >> I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I >> get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs >> to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real >> differences. >> Simon >> - Original Message - >> From: Davy Cuppens >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM >> Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> Hi folks >> I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple >> about the buggy ios11. >> Apple helpdesk would have told him not to up
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
No, I am saying that I didn't have a problem updating, that's all. Is there someone here who did the update through ITunes who does not have any of the known bugs? I wasn't aware. I'm patiently waiting for the fix to come out. I chose to try it, so patient I will be. Take care, Lois -Original Message- From: Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air So Lois, are you saying that you have none of these known bugs. Are your notifications coming in right onto the lock screen. I have difficulties to believe that. Regards Davy 2017-09-22 10:18 GMT+02:00, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com>: I did the over the air update as well. I always do. I just use my computer for back ups. On 9/22/17, Lois Butterfield <lbutterfield...@gmail.com> wrote: I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the years, and I had no issues at all, and really never have. Take care, Lois -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is pretty much the same. On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating over-the-air. I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to update via iTunes. If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back then, confirming such a notion. Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
So Lois, are you saying that you have none of these known bugs. Are your notifications coming in right onto the lock screen. I have difficulties to believe that. Regards Davy 2017-09-22 10:18 GMT+02:00, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com>: > I did the over the air update as well. I always do. I just use my > computer for back ups. > > On 9/22/17, Lois Butterfield <lbutterfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the >> years, and I had no issues at all, and really never have. >> >> Take care, >> Lois >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor >> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes >> would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free >> space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, >> but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is >> pretty much the same. >> >> >> On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, >>> who >>> >>> in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those >>> updating over-the-air. >>> >>> I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple >>> Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should >>> elect >>> >>> to update via iTunes. >>> >>> If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, >>> back then, confirming such a notion. >>> >>> Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) >>> >>> I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via >>> iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a >>> better >>> >>> experience. >>> >>> Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should >>> reinstall >>> >>> via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> >>> If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb >>> download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are >>> talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same >>> issues >>> >>> as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in >>> iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this >>> may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start >>> of >>> >>> download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t >>> have gone more smmothly. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> >>> Of James Homuth >>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> >>> There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via >>> iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be >>> installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to >>> actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want >>> to >>> >>> (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first >>> installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully >>> pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it >>> blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> >>> Of goshawk on horseback >>> Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >>> Importance: High >>> I have to say that I think this is rub
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
I did the over the air update as well. I always do. I just use my computer for back ups. On 9/22/17, Lois Butterfield <lbutterfield...@gmail.com> wrote: > I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the > years, and I had no issues at all, and really never have. > > Take care, > Lois > > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor > Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air > > I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes > would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free > space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, > but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is > pretty much the same. > > > On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who >> >> in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those >> updating over-the-air. >> >> I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple >> Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect >> >> to update via iTunes. >> >> If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, >> back then, confirming such a notion. >> >> Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) >> >> I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via >> iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better >> >> experience. >> >> Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall >> >> via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). >> >> Mark >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb >> download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are >> talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues >> >> as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in >> iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this >> may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of >> >> download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t >> have gone more smmothly. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> >> Of James Homuth >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via >> iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be >> installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to >> actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to >> >> (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first >> installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully >> pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it >> blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> >> Of goshawk on horseback >> Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> Importance: High >> I have to say that I think this is rubbish. >> I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I >> >> get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs >> >> to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real >> differences. >> Simon >> - Original Message - >> From: Davy Cuppens >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM >> Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air >> >> Hi folks >> I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple >> >> about the buggy ios11. >> Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but u
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
I did mine over the air, as I have done nine times out of ten over the years, and I had no issues at all, and really never have. Take care, Lois -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; M. Taylor Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is pretty much the same. On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating over-the-air. I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to update via iTunes. If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back then, confirming such a notion. Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this me
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This is nonsense. Updated my iPhone 7 via iTunes and a friends iPod touch 6th gen Over-the-air. Both devices have the same VoiceOver bugs and issues discussed on list. On 22/09/2017 8:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I can't see that nobody at all from the entire group of people who beta tested didn't update via iTunes at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 2:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating over-the-air. I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to update via iTunes. If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back then, confirming such a notion. Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscr
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
I'm with Sieghard on this one. I can see where updating with iTunes would have some advantages, namely you don't need to have as much free space on your phone and you get more status feedback during the update, but once the update is on your phone, I"d think the update process is pretty much the same. On 09/21/2017 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating over-the-air. I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to update via iTunes. If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back then, confirming such a notion. Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more optio
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I can't see that nobody at all from the entire group of people who beta tested didn't update via iTunes at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 2:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating over-the-air. I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to update via iTunes. If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back then, confirming such a notion. Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.go
RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
While I agree with you, Sieghard, I would be interested to see if one, who in fact, updates via iTunes experiences the same problems as those updating over-the-air. I remember back during the iOS 8 roll-out, that a genius at the Apple Store told me the same thing about how for best results, one should elect to update via iTunes. If memory serves, I do recall reading some anecdotal data, on the web, back then, confirming such a notion. Hay, it can’t hurt to try, right? (smile) I think if I were going to update today, I would elect to do so via iTunes, just in case there’s even the slightest chance of having a better experience. Perhaps some brave soul, who has already updated via OTA should reinstall via iTunes and let us know. (Big Smile). Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor
RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
If an over the air update just “patches iOS 10” then why is it a 2 Gb download? I think whoever said this doesn’t really know what they are talking about and I bet if you update via iTunes you have the same issues as everybody else. In any case, when I clicked “Check for Updates” in iTunes it told me it could not contact the update server and while this may have temporary, the over the air update took 18 minute sfrom start of download to Voiceover starting up again after the update so it couldn’t have gone more smmothly. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/vipho
RE: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
There are benefits, depending on your usage, for installing iOS via iTunes. Since the iOS image needs to exist on the phone before it can be installed from the phone, your storage habbits may not allow you to actually do an over the air update without deciding which app you want to (hopefully temporarily!) delete. Considering an iTunes update first installs the OS, then restores your data from the backup it hopefully pulled from your phone pre-update, it's not unreasonable to assume it blows what's currently on the phone away before doing the install. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: September-21-17 1:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Importance: High I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air
I have to say that I think this is rubbish. I generally do over the air updates, the only ones I do via iTunes is if I get a new iPhone, want to restore from an iTunes backup, but the IOS needs to be updated before that can be done. can't say I have noticed any real differences. Simon - Original Message - From: Davy Cuppens To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Apple rumors about not upgrading over the air Hi folks I want to post a short storey about someone I know that contacted Apple about the buggy ios11. Apple helpdesk would have told him not to update over the air but update with Itunes 12.7. If you do so, most of the known bugs will not occur. Updating over the air would result in a kind of adaptations, fixes in ios10 so that after the upgrade ios11 will come up and install. If you do it over itunes, really the whole ios will be deleted and replaced by the new one. I have difficulties to believe this. What are the opinions? Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
