RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
Hello Adrienne, I think in all fairness saying the Audible app is inaccessible is a bit extreme. The app in fact is perfectly accessible with the exception of Button-Free mode which by the way, was also inaccessible in previous versions. Yes, you could get into button-free mode easy enough by double tapping on the button, but the gestures would not register unless you turned Voiceover off. I totally like the new Audible app and think it's far better than the old version with the exception of 2 or 3 features which are not so much inaccessible but missing. Many of us including myself were bugging Audible to provide a better way to delete books or parts of books without having to start playing each part of a book in order to get to the Info button where you could then delete it. Audible has done that and in my opinion has done it very nicely. Also being able to download an entire 5 or 6 part book without having to tap on each part is very nice as is the fact that download progress is displayed. Like I said, there are many nice things about the app and all of them are perfectly accessible and every time I write to Audible I make sure that I point out how much I in fafct like the new app and its features, only then do I also point out the 2 or 3 missing features or things that have to be made accessible like giving Voiceover the ability to say which Chapter is playing on the Chapters and Bookmarks page. Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hello I have also contacted Audible in connection with the decrease in accessibility of the so-called update of this app and would encourage as many people as possible to do so. It is just unacceptable. I don't know quite why the lack of consideration for VO users should surprise me, we are talking about the same people who brought us the VO disabled Kindle. Anyone know if it's possible to revert to an earlier, accessible, version? Best Adrienne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
I would really like to write to the Audible developers, as well. What email address have any of you used to contact them? Thanks, Ari On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I know this wasn’t directed to me but thank you for your concise explanation expounding on this topic. It’s always fun to learn from others. And if you’ve the time feel free to join our communicating with Audible party I’ve tried my best to communicate with them over the past two weeks regarding this issue to what end yet remains yet to be seen but it's always more fun to have company in such endeavors (smiles). and I’d suspect that your knowledge of such matters could only serve to be of benefit to the efforts and their understanding and enlightenment. Robin From: Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Sieghard, I hadn't seen your prior note. Did you have trouble accessing the button-free mode from the instructions in my note? Anyway, yes, I absolutely agree that this should be universally discoverable whether someone uses VO or not. However, from my own experience as a developer, not all VO gestures can be captured and communicated to the app, without making some special arrangements in such app to recreate those gestures. For example, last time I checked, a developer couldn't actually capture a three-finger swipe upward / downward but could capture the left / right swipes. So in essence, what this means is that without creating a special area on the screen where VO lets certain gestures pass through automatically, there's no way for an app to know what gesture a user has done. this happens because Voiceover intercepts certain gestures before they actually reach the app. So while some VO gestures are easily integrated with a mainstream app, not all gestures are. Some would take a bit of work / creativity on the part of the developers to come up with analogs for. However, having said all this, I still agree with you and I'd even go further to say that the button-free mode could be a whole lot neater in its implementation, even for sighted users. The idea that you can only access the jump forward feature on one, and only one, screen is really poor design in my opinion. Even for a sighted user, how would you know you needed to swipe up to go into this obscure special mode so you can use gestures to navigate your book if you wanted to?… this is sooo not discoverable… Lastly, I'd also be curious to know why the scrub feature is not accessible with VO. it's really quite maddening to deal with. Audible should definitely be aware of this as I'm sure it's not their intention to isolate or segregate a segment of their users… Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful note! Have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Cara and Robin, I guess for those of us who don’t necessarily read the user’s guide these hidden, non-Voiceover accessible features remain a mystery until somebody points them out *smile*. Thanks, Cara, for doing so. However, I agree with Robin that this should be accessible. I was just about to post a message to you, Cara, telling you that you should upgrade your app since in the new version there was no such thing as Button-Free mode. Then I thought I better make sure so I called Audible support. At first the technical support guy told me as well that he could not find it, but then he put me on hold and told me that this was there. The way to get to it is to turn Voiceover off, then do a one-finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen just above the home key towards the top. This will enable button-free mode and you can jump forward and back by doing a left to right swipe for forward and a right to left swipe for back. A vertical swipe, either up or down, will insert a bookmark. I told him that I would like him to take my feedback which he did by asking me for my Audible email so he could properly log the call and request, and I then told him to document that this is completely not accessible with Voiceover and that Voiceover users have no way to turn on Button-Free mode or to use it with Voiceover. The other big issue for me is the fact that in the Chapters and Bookmarks area, the currently playing Chapter is visually highlighted, but Voiceover gives no indication what chapter is currently playing. I will also send another email about the Button-Free mode and the fact that Voiceover should say “selected” or “Currently Playing” when you come to the chapter which is currently playing. As for Button-Free mode, I don’t see
Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
Hi, they can be reached both at audible-iPhone-feedback@audible.commailto:audible-iPhone-feedback@audible.comaudible-iphone-feedb...@audible.com; as well as social-support@audible.comsocial-supp...@audible.com; I hope that helps. Robin From: Arianna Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived I would really like to write to the Audible developers, as well. What email address have any of you used to contact them? Thanks, Ari On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I know this wasn’t directed to me but thank you for your concise explanation expounding on this topic. It’s always fun to learn from others. And if you’ve the time feel free to join our communicating with Audible party I’ve tried my best to communicate with them over the past two weeks regarding this issue to what end yet remains yet to be seen but it's always more fun to have company in such endeavors (smiles). and I’d suspect that your knowledge of such matters could only serve to be of benefit to the efforts and their understanding and enlightenment. Robin From: Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Sieghard, I hadn't seen your prior note. Did you have trouble accessing the button-free mode from the instructions in my note? Anyway, yes, I absolutely agree that this should be universally discoverable whether someone uses VO or not. However, from my own experience as a developer, not all VO gestures can be captured and communicated to the app, without making some special arrangements in such app to recreate those gestures. For example, last time I checked, a developer couldn't actually capture a three-finger swipe upward / downward but could capture the left / right swipes. So in essence, what this means is that without creating a special area on the screen where VO lets certain gestures pass through automatically, there's no way for an app to know what gesture a user has done. this happens because Voiceover intercepts certain gestures before they actually reach the app. So while some VO gestures are easily integrated with a mainstream app, not all gestures are. Some would take a bit of work / creativity on the part of the developers to come up with analogs for. However, having said all this, I still agree with you and I'd even go further to say that the button-free mode could be a whole lot neater in its implementation, even for sighted users. The idea that you can only access the jump forward feature on one, and only one, screen is really poor design in my opinion. Even for a sighted user, how would you know you needed to swipe up to go into this obscure special mode so you can use gestures to navigate your book if you wanted to?… this is sooo not discoverable… Lastly, I'd also be curious to know why the scrub feature is not accessible with VO. it's really quite maddening to deal with. Audible should definitely be aware of this as I'm sure it's not their intention to isolate or segregate a segment of their users… Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful note! Have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Cara and Robin, I guess for those of us who don’t necessarily read the user’s guide these hidden, non-Voiceover accessible features remain a mystery until somebody points them out *smile*. Thanks, Cara, for doing so. However, I agree with Robin that this should be accessible. I was just about to post a message to you, Cara, telling you that you should upgrade your app since in the new version there was no such thing as Button-Free mode. Then I thought I better make sure so I called Audible support. At first the technical support guy told me as well that he could not find it, but then he put me on hold and told me that this was there. The way to get to it is to turn Voiceover off, then do a one-finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen just above the home key towards the top. This will enable button-free mode and you can jump forward and back by doing a left to right swipe for forward and a right to left swipe for back. A vertical swipe, either up or down, will insert a bookmark. I told him that I would like him to take my feedback which he did by asking me for my Audible email so he could properly log the call and request, and I then told him to document that this is completely not accessible with Voiceover and that Voiceover users have no way to turn on Button-Free mode or to use it with Voiceover. The other big issue for me is the fact that in the Chapters and Bookmarks area
Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
I, too, really like the new update. However, I do miss the fast forward/rewind buttons that would let you move through files at different speeds. Because this feature seems to no longer be available, and because the percentage slider is not accessible with VO, I can no longer move easily through a file. I could use button-free mode, I suppose, but I feel that the fast forward/rewind buttons were better. I think I'll write to Audible to suggest they put the buttons back into the app. Thanks, Ari On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello Adrienne, I think in all fairness saying the Audible app is inaccessible is a bit extreme. The app in fact is perfectly accessible with the exception of Button-Free mode which by the way, was also inaccessible in previous versions. Yes, you could get into button-free mode easy enough by double tapping on the button, but the gestures would not register unless you turned Voiceover off. I totally like the new Audible app and think it's far better than the old version with the exception of 2 or 3 features which are not so much inaccessible but missing. Many of us including myself were bugging Audible to provide a better way to delete books or parts of books without having to start playing each part of a book in order to get to the Info button where you could then delete it. Audible has done that and in my opinion has done it very nicely. Also being able to download an entire 5 or 6 part book without having to tap on each part is very nice as is the fact that download progress is displayed. Like I said, there are many nice things about the app and all of them are perfectly accessible and every time I write to Audible I make sure that I point out how much I in fafct like the new app and its features, only then do I also point out the 2 or 3 missing features or things that have to be made accessible like giving Voiceover the ability to say which Chapter is playing on the Chapters and Bookmarks page. Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hello I have also contacted Audible in connection with the decrease in accessibility of the so-called update of this app and would encourage as many people as possible to do so. It is just unacceptable. I don't know quite why the lack of consideration for VO users should surprise me, we are talking about the same people who brought us the VO disabled Kindle. Anyone know if it's possible to revert to an earlier, accessible, version? Best Adrienne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
Hello, Robin and Sieghard, Thans for the info. I'll definitely be writing to them. Thanks, Ari On Mar 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Ari, The email is this: audible-iphone-feedb...@audible.com Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived I would really like to write to the Audible developers, as well. What email address have any of you used to contact them? Thanks, Ari On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I know this wasn’t directed to me but thank you for your concise explanation expounding on this topic. It’s always fun to learn from others. And if you’ve the time feel free to join our communicating with Audible party I’ve tried my best to communicate with them over the past two weeks regarding this issue to what end yet remains yet to be seen but it's always more fun to have company in such endeavors (smiles). and I’d suspect that your knowledge of such matters could only serve to be of benefit to the efforts and their understanding and enlightenment. Robin From: Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Sieghard, I hadn't seen your prior note. Did you have trouble accessing the button-free mode from the instructions in my note? Anyway, yes, I absolutely agree that this should be universally discoverable whether someone uses VO or not. However, from my own experience as a developer, not all VO gestures can be captured and communicated to the app, without making some special arrangements in such app to recreate those gestures. For example, last time I checked, a developer couldn't actually capture a three-finger swipe upward / downward but could capture the left / right swipes. So in essence, what this means is that without creating a special area on the screen where VO lets certain gestures pass through automatically, there's no way for an app to know what gesture a user has done. this happens because Voiceover intercepts certain gestures before they actually reach the app. So while some VO gestures are easily integrated with a mainstream app, not all gestures are. Some would take a bit of work / creativity on the part of the developers to come up with analogs for. However, having said all this, I still agree with you and I'd even go further to say that the button-free mode could be a whole lot neater in its implementation, even for sighted users. The idea that you can only access the jump forward feature on one, and only one, screen is really poor design in my opinion. Even for a sighted user, how would you know you needed to swipe up to go into this obscure special mode so you can use gestures to navigate your book if you wanted to?… this is sooo not discoverable… Lastly, I'd also be curious to know why the scrub feature is not accessible with VO. it's really quite maddening to deal with. Audible should definitely be aware of this as I'm sure it's not their intention to isolate or segregate a segment of their users… Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful note! Have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Cara and Robin, I guess for those of us who don’t necessarily read the user’s guide these hidden, non-Voiceover accessible features remain a mystery until somebody points them out *smile*. Thanks, Cara, for doing so. However, I agree with Robin that this should be accessible. I was just about to post a message to you, Cara, telling you that you should upgrade your app since in the new version there was no such thing as Button-Free mode. Then I thought I better make sure so I called Audible support. At first the technical support guy told me as well that he could not find it, but then he put me on hold and told me that this was there. The way to get to it is to turn Voiceover off, then do a one-finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen just above the home key towards the top. This will enable button-free mode and you can jump forward and back by doing a left to right swipe for forward and a right to left swipe for back. A vertical swipe, either up or down, will insert a bookmark. I told him that I would like him to take my feedback which he did by asking me for my Audible email so he could properly log the call and request, and I then told him to document that this is completely not accessible with Voiceover
RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
Hi Adrienne, It is absolutely a good idea to contact them. As for finding your place in a book with 2-hour chapters shouldn't be too hard since the app does have a sleep timer and you can set it now to as short as 8 minutes or there is 15 minutes or 30 minutes. If the sleep timer ends and you are still awake you can always tap play again and reset the sleep timer. The sleep timer also has a setting which plays until the end of the current chapter, but if you are at the beginning of a very long chapter this may still not be so good. Another thing you can do is set your Jump Back interval to 90 seconds in the Settings. What I do is go and find the beginning of a chapter I remember, then I go to the next chapter. Now I find the Jump Back button, hold it and split tap with another finger. I can do this 10 or 20 times in a few seconds very fast and if my jump interval is set to 90 seconds, even just 10 taps will get you back 15 minutes and I find this pretty efficient. Don't get me wrong, I also want them to at least have a Jump Forward button so I could go forward or backward by whatever interval I set, I'd also like a high speed scrubbing option like you have in the Music app where a single flick on the time counter will advance or go back by 10% of the current track which I think is a great idea, but for the time being there are ways to do this reasonably well as it is especially if you use the sleep timer for listening in bed. Regards, Sieghard Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi So far as I am concerned, the loss of the ff/rewind capability makes the app barely usable. All very well having chapter navigation and the jump back, but the book I was listening to has chapter lengths of almost two hours a shot and, should I happen to nod off, I usually listen in bed, it's a complete pain trying to get to where I was when I was last conscious. Give them their due, Audible did phone me today to say they are working on it. Goes to show it's a good idea for people to contact them. BTW I contacted them via the contact details on their website, but I believe you can also do it from the settings page in the app. I haven't checked if that is another of the things that went with the update. Best Adrienne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
Hi, thanks for telling us about this. I still find it annoying to have to jump through such a hoop to accomplish that which we formerly could do with Voiceover enabled and did communicate that to them in a very respectful but firm manner. thanks for the tip though. Robin From: Cara Quinn Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived The jump forward feature exists when you use the button-free mode by turning off VO and doing a single finger swipe upward while listening to a book. In this screen you can do a left swipe (or flick) to go backward and a right swipe (or flick) to go forward. Doing a single tap anywhere on the screen will start / pause the audio and doing a vertical (up or down) flick will set a bookmark. To exit this mode, you can turn VO back on and you will find a 'Close' button in the top left corner of the screen. Double tapping this will bring you back to the normal play view. YOu can find out all about this, and more, in the user guide in 'Settings.' HTH and have a lovely evening / weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Arnold, You can actually find out what chapter is playing by double tapping on the time elapsed counter. Then flick left or right a bit and it will show you the chapter, but the readout will go away again after a while. I asked one of my employees to look at the Chapter and Bookmarks page. I was playing an audio book at the time and she said the currently playing chapter was highlighted and I am pretty sure the app could be programmed so that Voiceover would say something like “Selected” or “Currently Playing” before it reads out the chapter and time. This would be a big improvement in my view and I’ll definitely write to Audible again tonight to emphasize this. As far as a Jump Forward button is concerned, it does not exist. I am not sure why they would talk about it, but it’s definitely not there whether you use Voiceover or not. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived It is a crude work around, but one way you can tell what chapter you are currently playing is to set a book mark, then select the book marks button in the chapters and book marks, and go to that book mark. It will tell you what chapter you are in. And another feature I wish VoiceOver could access in the new audible app, (I hope it is simply that I don't know how to access it), is a jump forward button. I know it exists, for it talks about jump forward and back in the settings, I just think VoiceOver isn't finding it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app “iTired” does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can’t use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said “Now Playinbg” or “Selected” or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there’s an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I’m just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can’t get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can’t fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here’s hoping in future
RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived
Hi Cara and Robin, I guess for those of us who don't necessarily read the user's guide these hidden, non-Voiceover accessible features remain a mystery until somebody points them out *smile*. Thanks, Cara, for doing so. However, I agree with Robin that this should be accessible. I was just about to post a message to you, Cara, telling you that you should upgrade your app since in the new version there was no such thing as Button-Free mode. Then I thought I better make sure so I called Audible support. At first the technical support guy told me as well that he could not find it, but then he put me on hold and told me that this was there. The way to get to it is to turn Voiceover off, then do a one-finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen just above the home key towards the top. This will enable button-free mode and you can jump forward and back by doing a left to right swipe for forward and a right to left swipe for back. A vertical swipe, either up or down, will insert a bookmark. I told him that I would like him to take my feedback which he did by asking me for my Audible email so he could properly log the call and request, and I then told him to document that this is completely not accessible with Voiceover and that Voiceover users have no way to turn on Button-Free mode or to use it with Voiceover. The other big issue for me is the fact that in the Chapters and Bookmarks area, the currently playing Chapter is visually highlighted, but Voiceover gives no indication what chapter is currently playing. I will also send another email about the Button-Free mode and the fact that Voiceover should say selected or Currently Playing when you come to the chapter which is currently playing. As for Button-Free mode, I don't see why similar to how Apple solved the Notification Center activation, Audible couldn't do this so that a 3-finger swipe up would start button-free mode when Voiceover is on. Then maybe a 2-finger or 3-finger swipe left or right could be used for the Jump Forward or Jump Back command just as a 3-finger swipe changes pages when you are on the home screen. Regards, Sieghard I must be missing something here. In the new Audible update I don't see a Button Free Mode, I do remember it from the old version, but if I play a book in the new Audible app and turn Voiceover off I can swipe up or down or left or right as much as I want and nothing happens. Cara, could you tell me how you get to this Button-Free mode? Thanks, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 5:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, thanks for telling us about this. I still find it annoying to have to jump through such a hoop to accomplish that which we formerly could do with Voiceover enabled and did communicate that to them in a very respectful but firm manner. thanks for the tip though. Robin From: Cara Quinn mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived The jump forward feature exists when you use the button-free mode by turning off VO and doing a single finger swipe upward while listening to a book. In this screen you can do a left swipe (or flick) to go backward and a right swipe (or flick) to go forward. Doing a single tap anywhere on the screen will start / pause the audio and doing a vertical (up or down) flick will set a bookmark. To exit this mode, you can turn VO back on and you will find a 'Close' button in the top left corner of the screen. Double tapping this will bring you back to the normal play view. YOu can find out all about this, and more, in the user guide in 'Settings.' HTH and have a lovely evening / weekend!. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Arnold, You can actually find out what chapter is playing by double tapping on the time elapsed counter. Then flick left or right a bit and it will show you the chapter, but the readout will go away again after a while. I asked one of my employees to look at the Chapter and Bookmarks page. I was playing an audio book at the time and she said the currently playing chapter was highlighted and I am pretty sure the app could be programmed so that Voiceover would say something like Selected or Currently Playing before it reads out the chapter and time. This would be a big improvement in my view and I'll definitely write to Audible again tonight to emphasize this. As far as a Jump Forward button is concerned, it does not exist. I am not sure why they would talk about it, but it's definitely not there whether you use Voiceover
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i notice on the app you can not set the narration speed of iTunes books only those from audible. the iTunes books are it seems set in the music app On 9 Mar 2013, at 13:08, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks for telling us about this. I still find it annoying to have to jump through such a hoop to accomplish that which we formerly could do with Voiceover enabled and did communicate that to them in a very respectful but firm manner. thanks for the tip though. Robin From: Cara Quinn Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived The jump forward feature exists when you use the button-free mode by turning off VO and doing a single finger swipe upward while listening to a book. In this screen you can do a left swipe (or flick) to go backward and a right swipe (or flick) to go forward. Doing a single tap anywhere on the screen will start / pause the audio and doing a vertical (up or down) flick will set a bookmark. To exit this mode, you can turn VO back on and you will find a 'Close' button in the top left corner of the screen. Double tapping this will bring you back to the normal play view. YOu can find out all about this, and more, in the user guide in 'Settings.' HTH and have a lovely evening / weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Arnold, You can actually find out what chapter is playing by double tapping on the time elapsed counter. Then flick left or right a bit and it will show you the chapter, but the readout will go away again after a while. I asked one of my employees to look at the Chapter and Bookmarks page. I was playing an audio book at the time and she said the currently playing chapter was highlighted and I am pretty sure the app could be programmed so that Voiceover would say something like “Selected” or “Currently Playing” before it reads out the chapter and time. This would be a big improvement in my view and I’ll definitely write to Audible again tonight to emphasize this. As far as a Jump Forward button is concerned, it does not exist. I am not sure why they would talk about it, but it’s definitely not there whether you use Voiceover or not. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived It is a crude work around, but one way you can tell what chapter you are currently playing is to set a book mark, then select the book marks button in the chapters and book marks, and go to that book mark. It will tell you what chapter you are in. And another feature I wish VoiceOver could access in the new audible app, (I hope it is simply that I don't know how to access it), is a jump forward button. I know it exists, for it talks about jump forward and back in the settings, I just think VoiceOver isn't finding it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app “iTired” does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can’t use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication inthe Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said “Now Playinbg” or “Selected” or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there’s an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I’m just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version
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Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app iTired does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can't use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said Now Playinbg or Selected or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there's an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I'm just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can't get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can't fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here's hoping in future such functionality will be restored. Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi, I am in total agreement with you about the chapter indication and have mentioned that throughout my dialogs with them both by phone and email. that glaring admission drives me mad. I can’t imagine these changes would be difficult to implement though admittedly I’m not a code writer. It’d be one thing if we never had such functionality such as fast-forward and back buttons that respond to gestures and the like before but to have had them and then lost them in the cases of some of these features is maddening and I said as much to them. Supposedly according to the response I got today such accessibility concerns will be addressed in version 2.1 as for whether that is in fact true or not time will tell I suppose. Oh me of little faith (smile). and my apologies if I earlier erroneously referred to the current update by the wrong version number it is in fact version 2.01 which was released. Thank you for joining me in contacting them about these feature requests the more the merrier I say and I, like you hope others will do likewise. Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app “iTired” does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can’t use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said “Now Playinbg” or “Selected” or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there’s an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I’m just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can’t get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can’t fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here’s hoping in future such functionality will be restored. Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
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It is a crude work around, but one way you can tell what chapter you are currently playing is to set a book mark, then select the book marks button in the chapters and book marks, and go to that book mark. It will tell you what chapter you are in. And another feature I wish VoiceOver could access in the new audible app, (I hope it is simply that I don't know how to access it), is a jump forward button. I know it exists, for it talks about jump forward and back in the settings, I just think VoiceOver isn't finding it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app iTired does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can't use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said Now Playinbg or Selected or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there's an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I'm just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can't get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can't fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here's hoping in future such functionality will be restored. Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi Arnold, You can actually find out what chapter is playing by double tapping on the time elapsed counter. Then flick left or right a bit and it will show you the chapter, but the readout will go away again after a while. I asked one of my employees to look at the Chapter and Bookmarks page. I was playing an audio book at the time and she said the currently playing chapter was highlighted and I am pretty sure the app could be programmed so that Voiceover would say something like Selected or Currently Playing before it reads out the chapter and time. This would be a big improvement in my view and I'll definitely write to Audible again tonight to emphasize this. As far as a Jump Forward button is concerned, it does not exist. I am not sure why they would talk about it, but it's definitely not there whether you use Voiceover or not. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived It is a crude work around, but one way you can tell what chapter you are currently playing is to set a book mark, then select the book marks button in the chapters and book marks, and go to that book mark. It will tell you what chapter you are in. And another feature I wish VoiceOver could access in the new audible app, (I hope it is simply that I don't know how to access it), is a jump forward button. I know it exists, for it talks about jump forward and back in the settings, I just think VoiceOver isn't finding it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app iTired does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can't use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said Now Playinbg or Selected or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there's an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I'm just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can't get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can't fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here's hoping in future such functionality will be restored. Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
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The jump forward feature exists when you use the button-free mode by turning off VO and doing a single finger swipe upward while listening to a book. In this screen you can do a left swipe (or flick) to go backward and a right swipe (or flick) to go forward. Doing a single tap anywhere on the screen will start / pause the audio and doing a vertical (up or down) flick will set a bookmark. To exit this mode, you can turn VO back on and you will find a 'Close' button in the top left corner of the screen. Double tapping this will bring you back to the normal play view. YOu can find out all about this, and more, in the user guide in 'Settings.' HTH and have a lovely evening / weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Arnold, You can actually find out what chapter is playing by double tapping on the time elapsed counter. Then flick left or right a bit and it will show you the chapter, but the readout will go away again after a while. I asked one of my employees to look at the Chapter and Bookmarks page. I was playing an audio book at the time and she said the currently playing chapter was highlighted and I am pretty sure the app could be programmed so that Voiceover would say something like “Selected” or “Currently Playing” before it reads out the chapter and time. This would be a big improvement in my view and I’ll definitely write to Audible again tonight to emphasize this. As far as a Jump Forward button is concerned, it does not exist. I am not sure why they would talk about it, but it’s definitely not there whether you use Voiceover or not. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived It is a crude work around, but one way you can tell what chapter you are currently playing is to set a book mark, then select the book marks button in the chapters and book marks, and go to that book mark. It will tell you what chapter you are in. And another feature I wish VoiceOver could access in the new audible app, (I hope it is simply that I don't know how to access it), is a jump forward button. I know it exists, for it talks about jump forward and back in the settings, I just think VoiceOver isn't finding it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app “iTired” does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can’t use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said “Now Playinbg” or “Selected” or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there’s an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I’m just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can’t get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can’t fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here’s hoping in future such functionality will be restored. Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visithttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group
