RE: Document scanning question
I would dispute this, especially if you use an app like OneDrive where there is a document scan mode you get extremely good scans, but of course it depends on your ability as a blind person to take a good picture. I don't want to sound condescending, but it really takes "ability" and of course practice and best is practice with a sighted person watching until you have the feel for how high to hold the camera and so on. The same applies to depositing cheques via the bank app, it took me a few tries with sighted help, but now I can typically do it perfectly all the time and with just one try for taking a picture of the front and back of the cheque. Maybe it's 20 years of woodworking, but I have an extremely good sense of distance, a very steady hand and a good sense of orientation as well which comes in handy with respect to holding the iPhone level. Last week I was joining two 10-foot cedar boards together for making a raised garden/flower box. I have a tool called a Domino Joiner which cuts a square hole into the boards and once set up it references off the top of the board so they line up perfectly. You then stick a hardwood domino into the hole and it goes half way into the one board and half way into the other once again this is to line them up and give lateral stability for when you glue to the boards together. The tool does have some tabs where you can reference against the edge of the board when you start, but over the 10-foot length I wanted to put a domino every 2 feet so we layed the boards out the way the would be glued and touching each other, then my wife made a pencil mark on each board in exactly the same spot. This mark then needs to get lined up with a line on the tool because if you don't cut the hole exactly in the same place on each board it will or course not fit and by exact I mean it has to be less than a sixteenth of an inch. After we marked the boards I joking told my wife that I would put the tool in the right spot on the line just by feel and while right in the middle of the 10-foot board I was maybe an inch out, I often was less than half an inch away from the line. Still of course not good enough for the work, but it's just an example about how closely I can judge distance. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Document scanning question I don't think any of the IOS scanning programs do a satisfactory job of scanning documents. In my opinion, there is nothing better than a flat-bed scanner and some program for doing the ocr. Kurzweil 1000 and openbook are somewhat pricy but do an excellent job. Serotek (or whatever they call themselves now) sell docuscan for a couple hundred dollars and would, I think meet your needs. JAWS itself has convenient OCR which renders excellent results but doesn't export very well. Handytech--who's name, I think, has changed--sells Iread for much less than either k1000 or openbook and would also meet your needs. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Document scanning question If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that. ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the quality seems iffy these days. You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader inside the free NFB Newsline app. I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Document scanning question Hello list, I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail. Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I don't have sighted person around all the time to check. Thank you for your help in advance. Maria -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7
RE: Document scanning question
Couldn't you use the Be My Eyes app first to get a sighted helper and make sure you have all the documents properly oriented, then scan/photograph them. You could also use Aira, if it is only a couple of pages the free 5 minute call will probably be enough and they will take the picture for you and tell you how to hold your phone and then you can access it in the app or they can I think email it to you. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Document scanning question Hello list, I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail. Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I don't have sighted person around all the time to check. Thank you for your help in advance. Maria -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ba17b777-4c1a-ba9d-4782-b00557fe91a5%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR06MB7862A6A12C745071A2505A7DC7EF9%40SJ0PR06MB7862.namprd06.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Document scanning question
Thanks. Does these two tell me document orientation? And which of them is better to use? Thanks again. Dňa 2. 8. 2021 o 16:12 Richard Turner napísal(a): If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that. ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the quality seems iffy these days. You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader inside the free NFB Newsline app. I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Document scanning question Hello list, I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail. Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I don't have sighted person around all the time to check. Thank you for your help in advance. Maria -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637634920851072289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=k%2B7aLf67Xh%2BuLb2kdMVyEI5LrBSVT0xRLUhZnhXHNRA%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fba17b777-4c1a-ba9d-4782-b00557fe91a5%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637634920851072289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pvio6dXB3zpoI4T%2FZjivI9sy1s%2BAmvk4wvBzMUJ74Ss%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/e352eead-375e-db52-2298-fcab9c376ca3%40gmail.com.
RE: Document scanning question
I don't think any of the IOS scanning programs do a satisfactory job of scanning documents. In my opinion, there is nothing better than a flat-bed scanner and some program for doing the ocr. Kurzweil 1000 and openbook are somewhat pricy but do an excellent job. Serotek (or whatever they call themselves now) sell docuscan for a couple hundred dollars and would, I think meet your needs. JAWS itself has convenient OCR which renders excellent results but doesn't export very well. Handytech--who's name, I think, has changed--sells Iread for much less than either k1000 or openbook and would also meet your needs. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Document scanning question If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that. ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the quality seems iffy these days. You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader inside the free NFB Newsline app. I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Document scanning question Hello list, I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail. Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I don't have sighted person around all the time to check. Thank you for your help in advance. Maria -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637634920851072289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=k%2B7aLf67Xh%2BuLb2kdMVyEI5LrBSVT0xRLUhZnhXHNRA%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fba17b777-4c1a-ba9d-4782-b00557fe91a5%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637634920851072289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pvio6dXB3zpoI4T%2FZjivI9sy1s%2BAmvk4wvBzMUJ74Ss%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB451327D74CC1670BD60D8E6AB7EF9%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You receiv
RE: Document scanning question
If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that. ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the quality seems iffy these days. You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader inside the free NFB Newsline app. I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Document scanning question Hello list, I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail. Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I don't have sighted person around all the time to check. Thank you for your help in advance. Maria -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637634920851072289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=k%2B7aLf67Xh%2BuLb2kdMVyEI5LrBSVT0xRLUhZnhXHNRA%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2Fba17b777-4c1a-ba9d-4782-b00557fe91a5%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea9be2ba2c824b54582708d95595091a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637634920851072289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=pvio6dXB3zpoI4T%2FZjivI9sy1s%2BAmvk4wvBzMUJ74Ss%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB451327D74CC1670BD60D8E6AB7EF9%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.