RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread Richard Turner
I guess my message wasn't clear.
I have always had more than one language installed and the Language item in the 
rotor has always been grayed out as far back as I can remember, which is 
however long the rotor has existed with VoiceOver.

It would be nice if it could be taken out of the rotor for a time, especially 
now since iOS 13 the rotor jumps all over hell and back (even on the beta of 
13.1) and too often lands on language ...

Whether there is one or 5, it is always dimmed.

Could this be a country specific thing?

If you have the option to unselect it from the rotor; now or ever, I suspect it 
could be a country specific thing.
I have checked on iPads from Pro to Air 2, iPad Minis, IPod touches, iPhones 
from 5S to Xr.

Later,
Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

I think that is everybody's choice and decision and since iOS 13.1 is going to 
be released to the public apparently this coming Tuesday it is not a long wait.

As for the language rotor I thought you referred to it being dimmed if you turn 
the rotor to languages. I think the reason why it is greyed out/dimmed in 
Voiceover settings > Rotor is because it is not present if you have only one 
language downloaded, once you download more than one language it shows up and 
at least to me there is no reason why one would not want to have it in the 
rotor since switching languages otherwise would be impossible and I assume 
Apple thought the same way and decided that this way somebody wouldn't 
accidently remove it and then wonder why they can't access their languages any 
more.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 3:01 AM
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That is a bug please people really stay away from ios13 until 1 or 1.1.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:42 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread regina alvarado
Hi, I noticed language also grade out in my iOS 13. I also noticed that braille 
table was grade out. To my way of thinking, it would be more important to gray 
out language than braille table. I would like to take braille table out of my 
rotor. I think a lot of what Apple has done is to make the rotor Show links and 
visited links or whatever you have in the rotor at the time that it is needed. 
I changed the gesture to do the rotor to make it easier for me and also so I 
could teach a friend of mine how to finally get rotor options. I think it is 
going to be a real help to her. She has never been able to use the rotor. I 
always did, but this makes it much easier for me.

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Sep 21, 2019, at 6:03 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 


Hi Sieghard
 
This is a known bug in 13.0. The rotor is a mess at all.
Davy
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?
 
Language is not dimmed for me, if it is you probably haven’t added any 
languages or this is an iOS 13.0 things, I am already on the  iOS 13.1 beta.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?
 
The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and 
yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer.
I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time.
 
 
Richard
 
Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
 


On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I think that is everybody's choice and decision and since iOS 13.1 is going to 
be released to the public apparently this coming Tuesday it is not a long wait.

As for the language rotor I thought you referred to it being dimmed if you turn 
the rotor to languages. I think the reason why it is greyed out/dimmed in 
Voiceover settings > Rotor is because it is not present if you have only one 
language downloaded, once you download more than one language it shows up and 
at least to me there is no reason why one would not want to have it in the 
rotor since switching languages otherwise would be impossible and I assume 
Apple thought the same way and decided that this way somebody wouldn't 
accidently remove it and then wonder why they can't access their languages any 
more.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 3:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

That is a bug please people really stay away from ios13 until 1 or 1.1.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:42 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread Davy Cuppens
Hi Sieghard 

This is a known bug in 13.0. The rotor is a mess at all.
Davy 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

Language is not dimmed for me, if it is you probably haven’t added any 
languages or this is an iOS 13.0 things, I am already on the  iOS 13.1 beta.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and 
yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer.

I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time.

 

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





  On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

  ‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

  Gera
  Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread Davy Cuppens
Please report to accessibil...@apple.com 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 2:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and 
yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer.
I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time.


Richard 

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  On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:


  ‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

  Gera
  Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread Davy Cuppens

That is a bug please people really stay away from ios13 until 1 or 1.1.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 12:42 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t 
want To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-21 Thread Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
Hi, it’s happends to me also. My iPhone works in hebrew and sims to me the 
language is dimd. I remember it was started from ios11 or may be ios10.

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> ‫ב-21 בספט׳ 2019, בשעה 8:26, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
> 
> for me, the language rotor item has always been dimmed and I have several l=
> anguages loaded.
> Dimmed meaning you cannot take it out of the rotor.
> This has been the case for several iOS versions.
> I wonder if it is country specific?
> Very odd.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> =EF=BB=BF
> Language is not dimmed for me, if it is you probably haven=E2=80=99t added =
> any languages or this is an iOS 13.0 thin

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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
for me, the language rotor item has always been dimmed and I have several 
languages loaded.
Dimmed meaning you cannot take it out of the rotor.
This has been the case for several iOS versions.
I wonder if it is country specific?
Very odd.


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On Sep 20, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Language is not dimmed for me, if it is you probably haven’t added any 
languages or this is an iOS 13.0 things, I am already on the  iOS 13.1 beta.


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The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and 
yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer.
I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time.


Richard

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On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

Gera
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RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Language is not dimmed for me, if it is you probably haven’t added any 
languages or this is an iOS 13.0 things, I am already on the  iOS 13.1 beta.


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The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and 
yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer.
I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time.


Richard

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To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

Gera
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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and 
yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer.
I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time.


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‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille 
Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want 
To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS?

Gera
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Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Holly

On my rotor settings, the 'language' is always grayed out.

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