RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

Wow, I have 14 Pro, using Samantha, having the problem. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I only have a 14, and I'm using Samantha. And I'm not having the problem.

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think people have to start mentioning exactly which phone they have since 
> as far as I can tell people who report having this issue all seem to be 
> people who have an iPhone 14 Pro, maybe also 14 Pro Max and regular 14, not 
> sure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 7:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> Mark,
> That is not my experience at all.
> It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
> I just retested it.
> For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> OK, update to my last post.
> 
> After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone 
> was both locked and unlocked.
> 
> 1.
> When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.
> 
> 2.
> However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
> the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  
> 
> Interesting, to say the least.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
> as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
> it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
> will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all 
> is well.
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi 
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
> suppose to.
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
> Behalf Of Steve Matzura
> Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
> 
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[joseph hudson]

I only have a 14, and I'm using Samantha. And I'm not having the problem.

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think people have to start mentioning exactly which phone they have since 
> as far as I can tell people who report having this issue all seem to be 
> people who have an iPhone 14 Pro, maybe also 14 Pro Max and regular 14, not 
> sure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 7:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> Mark,
> That is not my experience at all.
> It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
> I just retested it.
> For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> OK, update to my last post.
> 
> After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone 
> was both locked and unlocked.
> 
> 1.
> When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.
> 
> 2.
> However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
> the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  
> 
> Interesting, to say the least.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
> as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
> it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
> will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all 
> is well.
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi 
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
> suppose to.
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
> Behalf Of Steve Matzura
> Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
> 
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

14 Pro here, Samantha Enhanced. Mine says unmuted too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I also have an iPhone 14 pro and have the same issue. I'm using Kate enhanced.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Barr
Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2023 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,
On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.

- Original Message -
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:31 AM
To: Digest recipients 
Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

=
Today's topic summary
=
Group: viphone@googlegroups.com
Url: 
  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics

  - Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted" [6 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
  - Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader [7 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/c93517ce8984cad2
  - automatic updates [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/59b6807c3b6f713c
  - Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/297656cf12d49ad6
  - PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions 
under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS [5 
Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/41421518282b2d25
  - New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ... [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/3f36c0d58f366b98

=
Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
=
-- 1 of 6 --
From: Steve Matzura 
Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
this?

-- 2 of 6 --
From: Donna Casteen 
Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.
Donna

-- 3 of 6 --
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson
Joshua Hendrickson

-- 4 of 6 --
From: Alan Lemly 
Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

-- 5 of 6 --
From: "Richard Turner" 
Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.

Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably 

RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As davy said, it makes no difference which version of iOS you run as this was 
not an issue related to iOS but something Apple fixed in the background/on 
their servers. With the App Store this has happened before, I can't remember 
exactly what and when it was, quite a few years ago, but just as with Siri 
there can sometimes be issues which Apple can fix and which have no connection 
to the version of iOS you run.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
April Yuille
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I also have an iPhone 14 pro and have the same issue. I'm using Kate enhanced.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Barr
Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2023 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,
On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.

- Original Message -
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:31 AM
To: Digest recipients 
Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

=
Today's topic summary
=
Group: viphone@googlegroups.com
Url: 
  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics

  - Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted" [6 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
  - Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader [7 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/c93517ce8984cad2
  - automatic updates [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/59b6807c3b6f713c
  - Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/297656cf12d49ad6
  - PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions 
under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS [5 
Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/41421518282b2d25
  - New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ... [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/3f36c0d58f366b98

=
Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
=
-- 1 of 6 --
From: Steve Matzura 
Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
this?

-- 2 of 6 --
From: Donna Casteen 
Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.
Donna

-- 3 of 6 --
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson
Joshua Hendrickson

-- 4 of 6 --
From: Alan Lemly 
Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

-- 5 of 6 --
From: "Richard Turner" 
Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.

Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for In

RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Debbie April Yuille]

I also have an iPhone 14 pro and have the same issue. I'm using Kate enhanced.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Barr
Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2023 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,
On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.

- Original Message -
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:31 AM
To: Digest recipients 
Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

=
Today's topic summary
=
Group: viphone@googlegroups.com
Url: 
  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics

  - Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted" [6 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
  - Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader [7 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/c93517ce8984cad2
  - automatic updates [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/59b6807c3b6f713c
  - Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/297656cf12d49ad6
  - PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions 
under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS [5 
Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/41421518282b2d25
  - New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ... [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/3f36c0d58f366b98

=
Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
=
-- 1 of 6 --
From: Steve Matzura 
Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
this?

-- 2 of 6 --
From: Donna Casteen 
Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.
Donna

-- 3 of 6 --
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson
Joshua Hendrickson

-- 4 of 6 --
From: Alan Lemly 
Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

-- 5 of 6 --
From: "Richard Turner" 
Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.

Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or

RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think people have to start mentioning exactly which phone they have since as 
far as I can tell people who report having this issue all seem to be people who 
have an iPhone 14 Pro, maybe also 14 Pro Max and regular 14, not sure.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Mark,
That is not my experience at all.
It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
I just retested it.
For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Richard Turner]

Has anyone experiencing this behavior called Apple Accessibility? If so, was there a resolution?Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 1, 2023, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
  

  
  
So right! Isn't that interesting!


On 2/28/2023 9:10 PM, Lielle Ben
  Simonליאל בן סימון wrote:


  
  Hi, it happens to me, but just when the screen is
locked.
I use iPhone 14 Pro and running iOS 16.3.1.
When I open my device VO reads it correctly.
  
  
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‫ב-28 בפבר׳ 2023, בשעה 22:19,
  ‏‏Katrina Anderson ‏
  כתב/ה:‬
  

  
  
Hi All,
  
  So weird.  I was preparing to write this message,
because I heard "unmuted" when sliding the switch back
or forward on my 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 version.
  VO is Samantha...not enhanced.  I then saw Sieghard's
suggestion to clear apps and reboot, so I did that; no
change.   I started typing this message, and for
whatever reason chose to check the switch again.  VO
spoke "muted"  "unmuted" appropriately.  Things seemed
good, but before sending this message, I checked again,
and VO says "unmuted" no matter the position.  LOL 
  
  It isn't a huge problem for me, but it should be
checked out, and hopefully fixed, so I will notify Apple
Accessibility.
  
  Katrina
  
   when I move the mute switch to either position.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of Carolyn
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 1:02 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
  
  I'm using Samantha Enhanced. I just tried it to be
sure, and mine just unmuted either way. 
  
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Barr
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com;
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  Hi,
  On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted"
whichever way the mute switch is pushed as well. I am
using Nathan Enhanced.
  
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Steve Matzura]

And others have reported the same behavior as me.


On 2/28/2023 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Steve,

That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If I move the switch 
on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 
Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the 
phone sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored 
when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?




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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

I'm running 14 Pro, but get unmuted regardless, with screen locked. \

Incidentally, I tried Siri 4, and it said something every time I flicked pass 
somethings, like settings zoom or some word, I couldn't quite hear what it 
said. I just went back to Samantha Enhanced. 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 1:51 PM
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Hi Richard, I get the same results as you. And I'm running a 14.

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On Mar 1, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

Mark,
That is not my experience at all.
It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
I just retested it.
For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the 
phone was both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the 
switch when the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or 
unmuted as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says 
whatever it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the 
phone will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, 
all is well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi 


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as 
it's suppose to.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the 
phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

I can move my switch up and down, but I've tried three voices, and with screen 
locked, it is always unmuted regardless of where the switch is, or, that is, it 
always says unmuted. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Could that be because the switch is locked as well?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2023 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"


OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone 
was both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch 
when the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or 
unmuted as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says 
whatever it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, 
the phone will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it 
again, all is well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, 
and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[janet gross]

Hello Everyone,
I am running a XR phone iOS 16.3.1.  When my phone is unlocked, and I switch 
the mute button off, Samantha says muted, when I switch back she says unmuted, 
which is right.  But, when my phone is locked, I press the mute button off, and 
Samantha says nothing, I press the mute button the other way, Samantha says 
nothing.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi Richard, I get the same results as you. And I'm running a 14.
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On Mar 1, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Mark,
That is not my experience at all.
It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
I just retested it.
For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny's post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, "Unmuted."

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[joseph hudson]

Hi Amy, that's really strange. I have change with buttons off, so maybe that's 
why you're having this problem just out of curiosity.
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> On Mar 1, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> My 14 Pro, and then keep left will say, muted or on muted whenever I have 
> change with buttons, turned on, and whenever my screen is unlocked. I have 
> never seen this behavior before. I reported it to Apple Accessibility, and 
> they were unaware of it.
> Not a major issue, but a minor annoyance for sure.
> Amy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 12:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   I haven’t been able to follow this thread closely, but I wonder if it is 
>> related to the voice. I use the Irish SIRI female voice, but I’m going to 
>> experiment with other voices now.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 12:50 PM, regina alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am also not having any trouble with mute unmute. I am running a 13 promax 
>>> with the current update. Interestingly, also, I am having no problem at all 
>>> with deleting or reading my subscriptions on App Store. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reggie Alvarado 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 5:15 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Using ESpeak as my TTS on a SE 2022 I can't reproduce it.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
>>> 
>>> I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
>>> suppose to.
>>> 
>>> Chris Judge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Steve Matzura
>>> Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
>>> 
>>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
>>> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
>>> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
>>> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
>>> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, 
>>> and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[joseph hudson]

Hi Richard, I get the same results as you. And I'm running a 14.
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> On Mar 1, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> That is not my experience at all.
> It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
> I just retested it.
> For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 5:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> OK, update to my last post.
> 
> After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone 
> was both locked and unlocked.
> 
> 1.
> When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.
> 
> 2.
> However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
> the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  
> 
> Interesting, to say the least.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
> as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
> it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
> will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all 
> is well.
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi 
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
> suppose to.
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
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> Behalf Of Steve Matzura
> Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

You are right; I tried it locked. That is pretty weird. 

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M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 8:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

I was too, but now, when I switch to Mute, it says Muted. I just switched 
voices. Someone else said they did that, and it worked for him, and it worked 
for me, so good work around. 

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Les Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 2:19 PM
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What I was hearing was on muted when I move the volume switches. A strange one 
to be sure.


Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 28, 2023, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese  wrote:




  I’m using a 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 version and I am not 
experiencing this. VoiceOver says, muted, Or, unmuted, when I move the mute 
switch to either position.


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On Feb 28, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Yep, same on 14 Pro. 

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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, 
but maybe not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way 
VoiceOver says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the 
phone sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the 
phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

I did, and it worked, thanks! 

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Curious. I just changed my VoiceOver voice from Samantha enhanced to Nathan 
enhanced and he says muted when the switch is set toward the back of my iPhone 
13 Mini and unmuted when the switch is set toward the screen. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
> switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.
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> From: Steve Matzura 
> Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
> not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
> says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
> sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
> the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
> this?
> 
> -- 2 of 6 --
> From: Donna Casteen 
> Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
> I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones 
> are running the most up to date IOS version.
> Donna
> 
> -- 3 of 6 --
> From: Joshua Hendrickson 
> Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
> I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
> flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
> latest version.
> 
> -- 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
> -- 4 of 6 --
> From: Alan Lemly 
> Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
> Steve, 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> Alan Lemly 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 5 of 6 --
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
> It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
> My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
> related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
> this one out.
> 
> Richard, USA.
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Amy Ruell]

Hello all,My 14 Pro, and then keep left will say, muted or on muted whenever I have change with buttons, turned on, and whenever my screen is unlocked. I have never seen this behavior before. I reported it to Apple Accessibility, and they were unaware of it.Not a major issue, but a minor annoyance for sure.Amy.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 1, 2023, at 12:52 PM, John Panarese  wrote:  I haven’t been able to follow this thread closely, but I wonder if it is related to the voice. I use the Irish SIRI female voice, but I’m going to experiment with other voices now.
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On Mar 1, 2023, at 12:50 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:I am also not having any trouble with mute unmute. I am running a 13 promax with the current update. Interestingly, also, I am having no problem at all with deleting or reading my subscriptions on App Store. Reggie Alvarado On Mar 1, 2023, at 5:15 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:Using ESpeak as my TTS on a SE 2022 I can't reproduce it.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chrisjudge1...@gmail.comSent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:26 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's suppose to.Chris Judge-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve MatzuraSent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2f9383d5-0555-8b70-6712-4d72790fa7de%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/058b01d94c1f%24d0649490%24712dbdb0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d94c26%24c4c73c80%244e55b580%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you ha

Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Andy Baracco]

Could that be because the switch is locked as well?

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2023 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"


OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone 
was both locked and unlocked.


1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch 
when the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”


Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or 
unmuted as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says 
whatever it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, 
the phone will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it 
again, all is well.


Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.


Chris Judge


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Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, 
and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?


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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[John Panarese]

  I haven’t been able to follow this thread closely, but I wonder if it is 
related to the voice. I use the Irish SIRI female voice, but I’m going to 
experiment with other voices now.


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> On Mar 1, 2023, at 12:50 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> I am also not having any trouble with mute unmute. I am running a 13 promax 
> with the current update. Interestingly, also, I am having no problem at all 
> with deleting or reading my subscriptions on App Store. 
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2023, at 5:15 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Using ESpeak as my TTS on a SE 2022 I can't reproduce it.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
> suppose to.
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
> Matzura
> Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[regina alvarado]

I am also not having any trouble with mute unmute. I am running a 13 promax 
with the current update. Interestingly, also, I am having no problem at all 
with deleting or reading my subscriptions on App Store. 



Reggie Alvarado 

On Mar 1, 2023, at 5:15 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:

Using ESpeak as my TTS on a SE 2022 I can't reproduce it.

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Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Matzura
Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Richard Turner]

Mark,
That is not my experience at all.
It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
I just retested it.
For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.




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Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Sent: February 28, 2023 8:37 AM
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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[M. Taylor]

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
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Hello All,

VoiceOver says "Muted" and "Unmuted" as expected on my 14 Pro Max using 
Samantha enhanced, running the latest version of iOS.

Mark

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I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
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> On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
> suppose to.
> 
> Chris Judge
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> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Dennis Long]

Using ESpeak as my TTS on a SE 2022 I can't reproduce it.

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I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[chrisjudge1967]

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

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Running 16.3, no problems here. It does what it supposed to do with the mute 
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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> What I was hearing was on muted when I move the volume switches. A strange 
> one to be sure.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>   I’m using a 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 version and I am not 
>> experiencing this. VoiceOver says, muted, Or, unmuted, when I move the mute 
>> switch to either position.
>> 
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>>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, same on 14 Pro. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Steve Matzura
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
>>> 
>>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
>>> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
>>> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
>>> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
>>> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, 
>>> and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Katrina Anderson]

Hi All,

So weird.  I was preparing to write this message, because I heard "unmuted" 
when sliding the switch back or forward on my 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 
version.   VO is Samantha...not enhanced.  I then saw Sieghard's suggestion to 
clear apps and reboot, so I did that; no change.   I started typing this 
message, and for whatever reason chose to check the switch again.  VO spoke 
"muted"  "unmuted" appropriately.  Things seemed good, but before sending this 
message, I checked again, and VO says "unmuted" no matter the position.  LOL 

It isn't a huge problem for me, but it should be checked out, and hopefully 
fixed, so I will notify Apple Accessibility.

Katrina

 when I move the mute switch to either position.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I'm using Samantha Enhanced. I just tried it to be sure, and mine just unmuted 
either way. 

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Jessica Barr
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi,
On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.

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From: Steve Matzura 
Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
this?

-- 2 of 6 --
From: Donna Casteen 
Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.
Donna

-- 3 of 6 --
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson
Joshua Hendrickson

-- 4 of 6 --
From: Alan Lemly 
Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

-- 5 of 6 --
From: "Richard Turner" 
Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
It so

Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Les Kriegler]

What I was hearing was on muted when I move the volume switches. A strange one to be sure.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 28, 2023, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese  wrote:  I’m using a 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 version and I am not experiencing this. VoiceOver says, muted, Or, unmuted, when I move the mute switch to either position.
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On Feb 28, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:Yep, same on 14 Pro. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve MatzuraSent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:37 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2f9383d5-0555-8b70-6712-4d72790fa7de%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/08e401d94b9e%24654b9b30%242fe2d190%24%40windstream.net.



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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Les Kriegler]

Steve, it is not just you. I had the same thing happened last week. It turned 
out and I don’t know if it’s related, but voiceover eventually stop working all 
together and that create another problems for me. But I can confirm your 
comment about moving that switch in hearing I muted all of the time. I have no 
idea why that stopped happening. I want up having to reset my settings and that 
message for now at least has gone away.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Steve, 
> 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
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>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>> 
>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
>> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
>> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, 
>> even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
>> definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
>> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Alan Lemly]

Curious. I just changed my VoiceOver voice from Samantha enhanced to Nathan 
enhanced and he says muted when the switch is set toward the back of my iPhone 
13 Mini and unmuted when the switch is set toward the screen. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
> switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:31 AM
> To: Digest recipients 
> Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics
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> 
>  - Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted" [6 Updates]
>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
>  - Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader [7 Updates]
>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/c93517ce8984cad2
>  - automatic updates [3 Updates]
>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/59b6807c3b6f713c
>  - Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition [1 Update]
>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/297656cf12d49ad6
>  - PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions 
> under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS [5 
> Updates]
>http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/41421518282b2d25
>  - New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ... [3 Updates]
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> Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
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> -- 1 of 6 --
> From: Steve Matzura 
> Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
> not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
> says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
> sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
> the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
> this?
> 
> -- 2 of 6 --
> From: Donna Casteen 
> Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
> I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones 
> are running the most up to date IOS version.
> Donna
> 
> -- 3 of 6 --
> From: Joshua Hendrickson 
> Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
> I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
> flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
> latest version.
> 
> -- 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
> -- 4 of 6 --
> From: Alan Lemly 
> Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
> Steve, 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> Alan Lemly 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> -- 5 of 6 --
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
> It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
> My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
> related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
> this one out.
> 
> Richard, USA.
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, Fe

Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[John Panarese]

  I’m using a 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 version and I am not experiencing 
this. VoiceOver says, muted, Or, unmuted, when I move the mute switch to either 
position.


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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep, same on 14 Pro. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Matzura
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds 
> are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

I'm using Samantha Enhanced. I just tried it to be sure, and mine just unmuted 
either way. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jessica Barr
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,
On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:31 AM
To: Digest recipients 
Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

=
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Group: viphone@googlegroups.com
Url: 
  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics

  - Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted" [6 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
  - Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader [7 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/c93517ce8984cad2
  - automatic updates [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/59b6807c3b6f713c
  - Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/297656cf12d49ad6
  - PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions 
under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS [5 
Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/41421518282b2d25
  - New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ... [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/3f36c0d58f366b98

=
Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
=
-- 1 of 6 --
From: Steve Matzura 
Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
this?

-- 2 of 6 --
From: Donna Casteen 
Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.
Donna

-- 3 of 6 --
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson
Joshua Hendrickson

-- 4 of 6 --
From: Alan Lemly 
Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

-- 5 of 6 --
From: "Richard Turner" 
Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.

Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mi

RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Carolyn]

Yep, same on 14 Pro. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have an iPhone 13 Pro and the mute switch correctly says "Muted" if  moved to 
the back and "unmuted" if moved to the front.
Maybe close all apps and reboot your phone to see if that resolves it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 4:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Jessica Barr]

Hi,
On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.

- Original Message -
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:31 AM
To: Digest recipients 
Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

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Group: viphone@googlegroups.com
Url: 
  
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  - Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted" [6 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
  - Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader [7 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/c93517ce8984cad2
  - automatic updates [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/59b6807c3b6f713c
  - Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/297656cf12d49ad6
  - PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions 
under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS [5 
Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/41421518282b2d25
  - New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ... [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/3f36c0d58f366b98

=
Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
=
-- 1 of 6 --
From: Steve Matzura 
Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
this?

-- 2 of 6 --
From: Donna Casteen 
Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.
Donna

-- 3 of 6 --
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson
Joshua Hendrickson

-- 4 of 6 --
From: Alan Lemly 
Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

-- 5 of 6 --
From: "Richard Turner" 
Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.

Richard, USA.
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Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
Steve, 
That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
Alan Lemly 
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Alan Lemly]

I suspect the TTS voice being used for VoiceOver might be a contributing 
factor. If I were experiencing this, that's the first thing I'd try. I'm using 
Samantha enhanced as my VoiceOver voice. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
> My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
> related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
> this one out.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
> 
> Steve, 
> 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>> 
>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
>> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
>> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, 
>> even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
>> definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
>> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
>> 
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Steve, 

That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even 
> though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are definitely 
> muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored when 
> moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
> 
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Alan Lemly]

Steve, 

That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even 
> though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are definitely 
> muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored when 
> moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
latest version.

On 2/28/23, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones
> are running the most up to date IOS version.
>
> Donna
>>
>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe
>> not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver
>> says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max.
>> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone
>> sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the
>> phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice
>> this?
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Donna Casteen]

I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are 
running the most up to date IOS version.

Donna
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even 
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