RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

That’s funny about your dog being referred to as a bear!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: 23 December 2020 05:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is no

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

They make cases that you can wear that hold the phone so the camera is pointed 
in front of you, several are like a harness that  has the phone clamped in so 
no one can just grab it. And they are often less than $50 instead of 3000 plus 
and you then do not have another battery powered device to keep charged.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 6:55 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.
And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription.
Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.
Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow.
With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment.
So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact t

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.  

And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription. 

Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.

Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Fazil]

Agree, specially when we have several options  are available around for free.

 

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Envision is simply not worth the money in my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Go

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Arlene]

Thank you, for telling about your experiences with the glass, way too expensive 
for me. As much as I appreciate all the scanning apps, and also scanning 
software for the computer, it would be really wonderful if being able to read 
the experation dates on products could be done or worked on. Possibly there may 
be something I'm not aware of, for example if any of the scanning apps or even 
softward can read the experation dates, that again I'm not aware of, and or 
there may be some technical reason why it's not possible. Though I wish being 
able to read the experation dates could be possible and truly worked on. It's 
really, really important. Unfortunately even the scanners such as the id mate 
can't seem to read that information and it's very much needed information, even 
if you have some general knowledge of how long a product lasts, along with all 
the other important product information that can be read by the scanning apps, 
scanning software for the computer and the hand held scanners.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:58 PM
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai


  Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

  With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such 
as chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

   

  Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

   

  I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

  So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  Kitty,

  I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

   

  Thanks,

   

   

  Richard, in the U.S.

   

  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

   

a.. I’m not the card shark
b.. My web site, www.turner42.com
   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Dennis Long]

Envision is simply not worth the money in my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion,

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.
And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription.
Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.
Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow.
With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment.
So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Kitty,
I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

Thanks,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Richard, I am amazed at how much s

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for h

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

Kitty,
I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

Thanks,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years.  That seems 
kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Joe Orozco]

I purchased a year subscription to Envision. I don’t think the quality
is as good as Seeing AI. Mind you, I’m referring to short text. I have
not tested out Envision on documents. I mostly bought the subscription
to show my support of their efforts. Somehow I missed the memo on
SuperSense or would have given them a try.

Joe


On 12/18/20, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have both envision and seeing A I on my phone. I use the Dexcom G6 and
> Seeing A I reads the code just fine for me. For me I find that Seeing A I
> reads short text better than does Envision. I was lucky enough to have
> purchased Envision last year when they had a big sale on the lifetime
> purchase. It was probably one of the best purchases I have made on my
> iPhone. It works quite well when scanning documents.
>
> Greg Wocher
>
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image
>> recognition is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me
>> where Envision Ai beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition.
>> I use this to identify codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors
>> sensor used for  pairing to the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code.
>> Envision Ai picks it up and reads it to me on the first try every time. I
>> also have the Envision glasses… They are great assuming you have an active
>> internet connection. They are comfortable and easy to pair to the phone
>> for updates and set up. I won’t get into the glasses to much as that’s off
>> topic.
>>
>> Ed Worrell
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read
>>> with Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to
>>> find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess
>>> the thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable
>>> glasses and all that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a
>>> virtual demo tomorrow.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>>>
>>> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than
>>> Seeing AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and
>>> has a different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a
>>> combination of Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
>>> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems
>>> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the
>>> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you
>>> can do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy
>>> it since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm
>>> thinking about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
>>>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
>>>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for
>>>> subsequent years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it
>>>> significantly better than seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I have both envision and seeing A I on my phone. I use the Dexcom G6 and Seeing 
A I reads the code just fine for me. For me I find that Seeing A I reads short 
text better than does Envision. I was lucky enough to have purchased Envision 
last year when they had a big sale on the lifetime purchase. It was probably 
one of the best purchases I have made on my iPhone. It works quite well when 
scanning documents.

Greg Wocher

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image 
> recognition is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where 
> Envision Ai beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use 
> this to identify codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor 
> used for  pairing to the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision 
> Ai picks it up and reads it to me on the first try every time. I also have 
> the Envision glasses… They are great assuming you have an active internet 
> connection. They are comfortable and easy to pair to the phone for updates 
> and set up. I won’t get into the glasses to much as that’s off topic.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read 
>> with Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to 
>> find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the 
>> thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and 
>> all that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo 
>> tomorrow.  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>> 
>> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
>> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
>> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
>> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
>> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
>> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
>> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
>> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it 
>> since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking 
>> about it. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for 
>>> subsequent years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly 
>>> better than seeing ai?  How?
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

Have you tried Supersense on your meter?
I'd be very curious if it worked.

Especially given that it has a one time purchase option for around $50 right 
now.




Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:06 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
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>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
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>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent 
>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
>> seeing ai?  How?
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





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kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?

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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Shane Lowe]

Hi Richard and all,
Thank you for the mention. I would be happy to answer any questions
you may have about the Supersense app.
We have also just received great news, which is that our research and
development department will be continuing our partnership with the
National Science Foundation. This means that the features you have
been requesting for Supersense will be developed much faster. :)


On 12/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it
> since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking
> about it.
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>
> 
> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

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