Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Carla Savage
Hi,
as I live in the uk, I got my Seika Mini from r.n.i.b. the cost was 899 pounds. 
Here's the link:



www.rnib.org.uk/shop
Just put in Seika into the search box.
Hope this helps,
Carla.
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On 28 Mar 2014, at 03:04 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 I believe that they are sold through Perkins.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 Carla,
 Can you please share from which company you purchased the Seika Mini braille
 display? I am researching options as well.
 Thank you.
 Terrie Terlau
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carla Savage
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 Hi andrew.
 I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works
 well with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback
 book. It is 18 cells.
 Hope this helps,
 Carla.
 
 
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 On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone..

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Traci Duncan
Here is the USA url for Baum.
http://www.baumusa.com/braille-solutions/

I think Maxiaids also caries them.

I have had the Focus14 for over a year, and I agree with everything another 
poster wrote about the device.  Lol, along with the budget and desire for an 
executive case.  :)

HTH,
Traci
On Mar 28, 2014, at 12:29 AM, Carla Savage ca...@astromech.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hi,
 as I live in the uk, I got my Seika Mini from r.n.i.b. the cost was 899 
 pounds. 
 Here's the link:
 
 
 
 www.rnib.org.uk/shop
 Just put in Seika into the search box.
 Hope this helps,
 Carla.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 28 Mar 2014, at 03:04 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 I believe that they are sold through Perkins.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 Carla,
 Can you please share from which company you purchased the Seika Mini braille
 display? I am researching options as well.
 Thank you.
 Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carla Savage
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 Hi andrew.
 I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works
 well with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback
 book. It is 18 cells.
 Hope this helps,
 Carla.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone..
 
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RE: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Terrie Terlau
Hi Carla,
Thank you very much! This is very helpful.
best,
Terrie


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Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

Hi,
as I live in the uk, I got my Seika Mini from r.n.i.b. the cost was 899
pounds. 
Here's the link:



www.rnib.org.uk/shop
Just put in Seika into the search box.
Hope this helps,
Carla.
Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Mar 2014, at 03:04 AM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 I believe that they are sold through Perkins.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 Carla,
 Can you please share from which company you purchased the Seika Mini
braille
 display? I am researching options as well.
 Thank you.
 Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carla Savage
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 Hi andrew.
 I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works
 well with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback
 book. It is 18 cells.
 Hope this helps,
 Carla.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my
iphone..

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Andrew Lamanche
I have unfortunately missed some of the conversation in this thread.  If you do 
not mind, Carla, could you tell me how you find Seika braille display?  Is it 
reliable and fairly sturdy?  Can you use it with both idevices as well as a Mac 
computer?  Has it got bluetooth?

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Carla Savage
Hi Andrew,
Yes, I find mine to be sturdy. I use it out and about a lot.
It is 16 cells, not 18 as I previously stated.
It works well with i devices via bluetooth. I use mine with my iPhone and iPod.
It also works well with windows, not sure whether it will work with the mack.
Do a google search for the Seika Mini or visit:
www.rnib.org.uk/shop and search for the Seika Mini.
I know it works with Jaws, Window-eyes and NVDA.
Hope this helps,
Carla.


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On 28 Mar 2014, at 10:20 PM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

 I have unfortunately missed some of the conversation in this thread.  If you 
 do not mind, Carla, could you tell me how you find Seika braille display?  Is 
 it reliable and fairly sturdy?  Can you use it with both idevices as well as 
 a Mac computer?  Has it got bluetooth?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, the Focus 14 and the Braille Pen 12 are going to be the smallest, 
but at the cost of more scrolling. If this isn't an issue for you, then 
these are great. As you move up the line, the Perkins Mini has 16 cells 
and even a text file and Braille file reader. Moving up from there and 
where I would personally start is the Braille Connect 18 from APH. This 
one has 18 cells and so even though there is a lot of scrolling, it's 
not nearly as much as with a 12, 14, or 16 cell display. After that I 
believe the next step up is the 32 cells displays.


Good luck.

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On 3/26/2014 9:07 PM, Andrew Head wrote:

Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. Just 
wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent number 
of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep pocket. Will 
even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I was maybe 
thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those exist. I mean a 
display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille sense, but want 
something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and don't have my 
braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, might still be a 
good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb others with the 
talking phone say if I get a message while family members are watching tv. I 
only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display means I can still 
use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be social with those around 
me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off from those around m

e and I look more anti social.

Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
others thoughts.
Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew



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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, for what it's worth, I personally prefer the Focus 14 over the 
Braille Pen 12. There are more buttons on the Focus and it gives you 
more control over commands. Plus the Braille Pen in my opinion seems 
like it will fall apart with a gust of wind. The focus doesn't seem all 
that much more sturdy, but it at least has more features. smile.


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On 3/26/2014 10:25 PM, Hope Paulos wrote:

Focus 14 blue is a really small and good display. It works well with the 
iPhone! I do not have one, but I have used one in the past.

Hope Paulos


On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi you could also get the braille pen. I don't know of any other braille 
displays that would work with a Eyephone but I know that that one does since I 
have herd it does. hth. from Mich.
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Subject: small portable braille display for the iphone


Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off from those around 

me and I look more anti social.

Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
others thoughts.
Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi Carla. I thought the Perkins Mini was 16-cells. Please definitely 
correct me if I'm wrong.


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On 3/27/2014 1:35 PM, Carla Savage wrote:

Hi andrew.
I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works well 
with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback book. It is 
18 cells.
Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:


Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off from those around 

me and I look more anti social.

Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
others thoughts.
Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, a small correction. I wrote the Braille Connect is 18 cells. I meant 
to say the Refreshabraille from APH has 18 cells.


Sorry bout that folks.

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On 3/28/2014 9:47 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, the Focus 14 and the Braille Pen 12 are going to be the smallest,
but at the cost of more scrolling. If this isn't an issue for you, then
these are great. As you move up the line, the Perkins Mini has 16 cells
and even a text file and Braille file reader. Moving up from there and
where I would personally start is the Braille Connect 18 from APH. This
one has 18 cells and so even though there is a lot of scrolling, it's
not nearly as much as with a 12, 14, or 16 cell display. After that I
believe the next step up is the 32 cells displays.

Good luck.

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On 3/26/2014 9:07 PM, Andrew Head wrote:

Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my
iphone. Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something
that has a decent number of cells for reading, but is still small
enough to fit in a deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the
size of the phone if need be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue,
or even an 18 cell display if those exist. I mean a display, not a
note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille sense, but want something
small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and don't have my braille
sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, might still be a
good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb others with
the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are
watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille
display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and
still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel
earphones cut me off from those around m

e and I look more anti social.

Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy
hearing others thoughts.
Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew



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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-28 Thread Andy Baracco
I owned a Refreshabraille, but I couldn't stand how the USB connector was 
designed. i found it almost impossible to insert the cable.


Andy


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From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

Hi, the Focus 14 and the Braille Pen 12 are going to be the smallest,
but at the cost of more scrolling. If this isn't an issue for you, then
these are great. As you move up the line, the Perkins Mini has 16 cells
and even a text file and Braille file reader. Moving up from there and
where I would personally start is the Braille Connect 18 from APH. This
one has 18 cells and so even though there is a lot of scrolling, it's
not nearly as much as with a 12, 14, or 16 cell display. After that I
believe the next step up is the 32 cells displays.

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
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On 3/26/2014 9:07 PM, Andrew Head wrote:

Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a 
decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a 
deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need 
be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if 
those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell 
braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm 
out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't 
happen offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private 
or not disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while 
family members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel 
a braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and 
quiet, and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel 
earphones cut me off from those around m

e and I look more anti social.
Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy 
hearing others thoughts.

Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew



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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-27 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
Somewhere there's an English link but I don't know the URL.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:52, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I wanted to see what this braille display had to offer, but the web site is 
 in German. Do you have a web site that will explain the braille displays in 
 English? Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
 hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The German company Baum makes a series of displays called Vario. They come 
 in various sizes but they're very compact. You'll get more info at their 
 www.baum.de.
 
 Hth,
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:07, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
 Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a 
 decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a 
 deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need 
 be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if 
 those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell 
 braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm 
 out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen 
 offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not 
 disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family 
 members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a 
 braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, 
 and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel 
 earphones cut me off from those around me and I look more anti social. 
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy 
 hearing others thoughts. 
 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
 Andrew 
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-27 Thread Carla Savage
Hi andrew.
I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works well 
with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback book. It is 
18 cells. 
Hope this helps, 
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
 Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent 
 number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep 
 pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I 
 was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those 
 exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille 
 sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and 
 don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, 
 might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb 
 others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are 
 watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display 
 means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be 
 social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off 
 from those around me and I look more anti social. 
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
 others thoughts. 
 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
 Andrew 
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-27 Thread Betty Emmons

what does this display coust?
Betty Emmons
- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone


Hmm, what can I say about the Focus 14 Blue that I've had for 6 weeks?
Well, the question of why I didn't get one sooner comes to mind. Grin.
Anyway, I love my Focus 14 Blue. Unlike other displays, it has a lot
of controls and buttons that lets you control all aspects of using the
display wirelessly with an iOS device. You can even use the selector
button to answer/hang up calls and start and stop media, which I often
do. At times I have wished for more Braille cells, but more cells
means greater price, and this little unit is plenty big enough and
very portable. My only complaints so far have been the standard case
that comes with it, since the fasteners for the shoulder strap are on
the top of the case, where the flap folds back underneath verses in
the back. Also the sides are exposed to the elements. I have toyed
with the idea of getting an Executive Products case for the Focus 14,
but that's $50, so we'll have to see when the budget allows for it. I
do have minor issues with the auto translation being on, which when
you stop typing, whatever you have written is instantly translated.
The downside is that if you are in the middle of writing a word or
phrase and you hesitate, that is automatically tranlsated. Though that
feature can be turned off, I find it very covenient to write in
contractions and can live with the short comings. All in all, I love
my Focus 14. I have and do use it to read files in Dropbox, read books
in iBooks, play iAssociate 2 (aword associations game), go through
tweets, and other things. If I don't want to bother others, I can mute
the phone, mute the Voiceover speech and sounds, and then leave the
phone in my pocket.

If you are seriously considering getting a display, I would definitely
encourage you to take some for test drives. Find a local dealer of the
products or go to a blindness conference and look at some demo models
on display. Don't buy sight unseen, so to speak. Yes, you could get a
refund within 30 days after, but these devices cost too much to buy
without looking at one. Think of it like a sighted person taking a car
for a test drive before buying, rather than just pointing at one and
saying, I'll take that one. I took someone's word on a display a
number of years ago that vocational rehab got for me. I still got a
lot of use out of it, but found there were some things that I didn't
expect and didn't appreciate as much. Also, read the articles and
posts on AppleVis. There's a lot of content out there that reviews and
goes over the high and low points and features of these displays.

One other thing: I realize that not all local/regional dealers do
this, but the dealer I ordered mine from did not charge me shipping
when they sent it from their office to me. This may not be big, but
when the unit itself costs $1,295 every bit counts.

Hth,
Wayne

On 3/27/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

Somewhere there's an English link but I don't know the URL.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:52, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to see what this braille display had to offer, but the web site
is in German. Do you have a web site that will explain the braille
displays in English? Thanks.

Cheers,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

The German company Baum makes a series of displays called Vario. They
come in various sizes but they're very compact. You'll get more info at
their www.baum.de.

Hth,
Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:07, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my
iphone. Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something 
that

has a decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to
fit in a deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the
phone if need be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18
cell display if those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I
already have a 32 cell braille sense, but want something small I can
carry in a pocket for if I'm out and don't have my braille sense with
me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, might still be a good thing
to have if I want to be private or not disturb others with the talking
phone say if I get a message while family members are watching tv. I
only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display means I can
still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be social with
those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off from
those around me and I look more anti social.
Just considering at this point, no real

Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-27 Thread Wayne Merritt
The Focus 14 Blue costs $1,295.

Wayne

On 3/27/14, Betty Emmons bettycemm...@gmail.com wrote:
 what does this display coust?
 Betty Emmons
 - Original Message -
 From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:27 PM
 Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone


 Hmm, what can I say about the Focus 14 Blue that I've had for 6 weeks?
 Well, the question of why I didn't get one sooner comes to mind. Grin.
 Anyway, I love my Focus 14 Blue. Unlike other displays, it has a lot
 of controls and buttons that lets you control all aspects of using the
 display wirelessly with an iOS device. You can even use the selector
 button to answer/hang up calls and start and stop media, which I often
 do. At times I have wished for more Braille cells, but more cells
 means greater price, and this little unit is plenty big enough and
 very portable. My only complaints so far have been the standard case
 that comes with it, since the fasteners for the shoulder strap are on
 the top of the case, where the flap folds back underneath verses in
 the back. Also the sides are exposed to the elements. I have toyed
 with the idea of getting an Executive Products case for the Focus 14,
 but that's $50, so we'll have to see when the budget allows for it. I
 do have minor issues with the auto translation being on, which when
 you stop typing, whatever you have written is instantly translated.
 The downside is that if you are in the middle of writing a word or
 phrase and you hesitate, that is automatically tranlsated. Though that
 feature can be turned off, I find it very covenient to write in
 contractions and can live with the short comings. All in all, I love
 my Focus 14. I have and do use it to read files in Dropbox, read books
 in iBooks, play iAssociate 2 (aword associations game), go through
 tweets, and other things. If I don't want to bother others, I can mute
 the phone, mute the Voiceover speech and sounds, and then leave the
 phone in my pocket.

 If you are seriously considering getting a display, I would definitely
 encourage you to take some for test drives. Find a local dealer of the
 products or go to a blindness conference and look at some demo models
 on display. Don't buy sight unseen, so to speak. Yes, you could get a
 refund within 30 days after, but these devices cost too much to buy
 without looking at one. Think of it like a sighted person taking a car
 for a test drive before buying, rather than just pointing at one and
 saying, I'll take that one. I took someone's word on a display a
 number of years ago that vocational rehab got for me. I still got a
 lot of use out of it, but found there were some things that I didn't
 expect and didn't appreciate as much. Also, read the articles and
 posts on AppleVis. There's a lot of content out there that reviews and
 goes over the high and low points and features of these displays.

 One other thing: I realize that not all local/regional dealers do
 this, but the dealer I ordered mine from did not charge me shipping
 when they sent it from their office to me. This may not be big, but
 when the unit itself costs $1,295 every bit counts.

 Hth,
 Wayne

 On 3/27/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Somewhere there's an English link but I don't know the URL.

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:52, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to see what this braille display had to offer, but the web site
 is in German. Do you have a web site that will explain the braille
 displays in English? Thanks.

 Cheers,
 Eileen

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

 The German company Baum makes a series of displays called Vario. They
 come in various sizes but they're very compact. You'll get more info at
 their www.baum.de.

 Hth,
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:07, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my
 iphone. Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something
 that
 has a decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to
 fit in a deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the
 phone if need be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an
 18
 cell display if those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I
 already have a 32 cell braille sense, but want something small I can
 carry in a pocket for if I'm out and don't have my braille sense with
 me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, might still be a good thing
 to have if I want to be private or not disturb others with the talking
 phone say if I get a message while family members are watching tv. I
 only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display means I can
 still use the phone, but be private and quiet

RE: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-27 Thread Terrie Terlau
Carla,
Can you please share from which company you purchased the Seika Mini braille
display? I am researching options as well.
Thank you.
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carla Savage
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

Hi andrew.
I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works
well with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback
book. It is 18 cells. 
Hope this helps, 
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone.
Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a
decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a
deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need
be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if
those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell
braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm
out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen
offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not
disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family
members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a
braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet,
and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones
cut me off from those around me and I look more anti social. 
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy
hearing others thoughts. 
 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
 Andrew 
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-27 Thread Andy Baracco

I believe that they are sold through Perkins.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Terrie Terlau

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: small portable braille display for the iphone

Carla,
Can you please share from which company you purchased the Seika Mini braille
display? I am researching options as well.
Thank you.
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carla Savage
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

Hi andrew.
I use the Seika Mini braille display. Although it is a notetaker, it works
well with the iPhone and is small enough, about the size of a paperback
book. It is 18 cells.
Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Mar 2014, at 02:07 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:


Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone.

Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a
decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a
deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need
be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if
those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell
braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm
out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen
offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not
disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family
members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a
braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet,
and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones
cut me off from those around me and I look more anti social.

Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy

hearing others thoughts.

Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-26 Thread Jane
I recommend a Refreshabraille 18. It fits in my pocket very easily.

Jane




On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
 Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent 
 number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep 
 pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I 
 was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those 
 exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille 
 sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and 
 don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, 
 might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb 
 others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are 
 watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display 
 means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be 
 social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off 
 from those around me and I look more anti social. 
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
 others thoughts. 
 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
 Andrew 
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-26 Thread Mich
Hi you could also get the braille pen. I don't know of any other braille 
displays that would work with a Eyephone but I know that that one does since 
I have herd it does. hth. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au

To: Iphone List viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:07 PM
Subject: small portable braille display for the iphone


Hi all,
I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a 
decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a 
deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need 
be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if 
those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell 
braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm 
out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen 
offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not 
disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family 
members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a 
braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, 
and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones 
cut me off from those around me and I look more anti social.
Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy 
hearing others thoughts.

Hope everyone has a blessed day,
Andrew

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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-26 Thread Hope Paulos
Focus 14 blue is a really small and good display. It works well with the 
iPhone! I do not have one, but I have used one in the past.

Hope Paulos

 On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 
 Hi you could also get the braille pen. I don't know of any other braille 
 displays that would work with a Eyephone but I know that that one does since 
 I have herd it does. hth. from Mich.
 - Original Message - From: Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au
 To: Iphone List viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:07 PM
 Subject: small portable braille display for the iphone
 
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
 Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent 
 number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep 
 pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I 
 was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those 
 exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille 
 sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and 
 don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, 
 might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb 
 others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are 
 watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display 
 means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be 
 social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off 
 from those around me and I look more anti social.
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
 others thoughts.
 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
 Andrew
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-26 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
The German company Baum makes a series of displays called Vario. They come in 
various sizes but they're very compact. You'll get more info at their 
www.baum.de.

Hth,
Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
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 On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:07, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
 Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a decent 
 number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a deep 
 pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need be. I 
 was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if those 
 exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell braille 
 sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm out and 
 don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen offten, 
 might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not disturb 
 others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family members are 
 watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a braille display 
 means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, and still be 
 social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones cut me off 
 from those around me and I look more anti social. 
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy hearing 
 others thoughts. 
 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
 Andrew 
 
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Re: small portable braille display for the iphone

2014-03-26 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi,

I wanted to see what this braille display had to offer, but the web site is in 
German. Do you have a web site that will explain the braille displays in 
English? Thanks.

Cheers,
Eileen

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 On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
 hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The German company Baum makes a series of displays called Vario. They come in 
 various sizes but they're very compact. You'll get more info at their 
 www.baum.de.
 
 Hth,
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:07, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm considering purchasing a small braille display for use with my iphone. 
 Just wondering what other users recommend? I want something that has a 
 decent number of cells for reading, but is still small enough to fit in a 
 deep pocket. Will even accept a size display the size of the phone if need 
 be. I was maybe thinking the focus 14 blue, or even an 18 cell display if 
 those exist. I mean a display, not a note taker. I already have a 32 cell 
 braille sense, but want something small I can carry in a pocket for if I'm 
 out and don't have my braille sense with me, which whilst it doesn't happen 
 offten, might still be a good thing to have if I want to be private or not 
 disturb others with the talking phone say if I get a message while family 
 members are watching tv. I only use headphones for music and I feel a 
 braille display means I can still use the phone, but be private and quiet, 
 and still be social with those around me when out, where as I feel earphones 
 cut me off from those around me and I look more anti social. 
 Just considering at this point, no real decisions made, but I'd enjoy 
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 Hope everyone has a blessed day,
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