RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

Hi Sandra,

I think the accuracy for consumers changes from 2 meters for gps to 1 meter for 
Galileo; nice, but not a critical difference for the average consumer.  It is 
expected to perhaps be more important for automation, but then GPS is also 
being upgraded to the same level of accuracy.

As for phones, the Samsung Galaxy 8 is the only one I could find which has 
Galileo compatibility, but I too read that a consumer won't be able to use 
Galileo for several years yet.

Chip



-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

hi Andreya,
While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still much 
greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!

I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, there 
might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. however, this 
might be the very thing that will push me onto the android platform.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it> wrote:
> 
> Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 
> 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.
> 
> 
> 
> Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position 
>> to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on 
>> satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many 
>> more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. 
>> what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, 
>> already, greatly improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the 
>> only non-military GPS system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions 
>> of accuracy do not apply. so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as 
>> to which devices can use it, do please let us know!
>> 
>> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
>>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to 
>>> ask passers-by.
>>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it 
>>> entirely.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Husna Begum
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>>> 
>>> Husna
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>> 
>>>> Good points.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> 
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Kelly Pierce]

The GPS add on for the Victor Reader will cost more than $300 with $20
map updates if Humanware charges the same as it did for updates to its
previous GPS product.  That's a bargain considering the price of
Nearby Explorer, which is under $100.   Aph is testing maps outside
North America so those around the world can have this advancement.
All the iPhone GPS apps are able to provide many more points of
interest than what the victor Reader Trek will provide because the GPS
apps can access huge datasets from Google and Foursquare on the
Internet that are updated constantly.  The NE app for example can
guide a blind user to the exact location of  a bus stop, as the
coordinates of each bus stop have been downloaded to the user's
device.  The Trek may have buttons but the iPhone apps have enormous
amounts of rich data to supply to iPhone users. For most people, which
are those who will have a data connection and occasional access to
Wifi, the iPhone experience will likely be more robust and useful.

Kelly

On 7/8/17, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gps is also being upgraded, so either system is claiming it will allow us to
> eventually have 1 meter accuracy (but amny years away).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 4:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position
> to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on
> satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many
> more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it.
> what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has,
> already, greatly improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the
> only non-military GPS system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions
> of accuracy do not apply. so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as
> to which devices can use it, do please let us know!
>
> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
>>
>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to
>> ask passers-by.
>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it
>> entirely.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Husna Begum
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>>
>> Husna
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Kelly:
>>>
>>> Good points.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
>>>
>>> say
>>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>>>

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

Gps is also being upgraded, so either system is claiming it will allow us to 
eventually have 1 meter accuracy (but amny years away).


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 4:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.  
> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
> passers-by.
> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Husna Begum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
> 
> Husna
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
> works for me and suits my purposes.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>> 
>> Good points.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not 
>> say
>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English. 
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
>> the world by educated peple.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>> 
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>> 
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>> 
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
&g

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

I agree Kelly; I just wish you had the option of using "up to the minute" 
online maps when you had a cell data (and if you wanted to spend for the 
connection time).  MS MapPoint, when I was programming using it, was great for 
this ... much like Waze.

BTW, those who are in the know re Humanware Victor Trek say to expect to pay 
for map updates.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Chip,

Nearby Explorer for iOS recently updated its maps and they are current
from the first quarter of 2017.  That’s impressive considering the
product was introduced in September 2016.  Unlike online maps, Nearby
Explorer works great in urban canyons, in valleys with poor cell
service and in lightly populated areas with limited cell phone
coverage.


Andy,

To obtain directions on Nearby Explorer, double tap the search tab on
the bottom of the screen and type or dictate an address.  Nearby
Explore will match the address to one it recognizes in its map.  The
end user is presented with the option for either a list of directions
or for guided turn-by-turn directions.  The app only provides walking
and driving directions though.  Public transit directions are
available from Move It, Apple Maps or Google Maps.

Kelly




On 7/5/17, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> How does one create a route with Nearby Explorer.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm coming in a bit late on this thread, but I'd like to first say that
>> I've been using Nearby Explorer for about six months and really like it.
>> Though its front screen is quite cluttered, you can  hide items that you
>> don't want on that screen, thereby reducing that clutter.
>> I live in Los Angeles, and, quite frankly, depending on the time of day,
>> traffic, especially on the major freeways, is terrible.  Having used both
>> Seeing Eye and Nearby Explorer extensively in vehicle mode, I've noticed
>> that neither app will give you alternate vehicle routes which factor in
>> bad traffic conditions. Normally my paratransit service will take me to
>> and from work using the 405 and 101 freeways, which is fine under
>> favorable conditions.  When both freeways are jammed, I've used Waze to
>> get alternate routes, and, what's cool is, it will show you route options
>> with their expected travel times and ETA's. I don't know what algorithms
>> Waze uses, but if they could be plugged into vehicle modes in Nearby
>> Explorer and/or Seeing Eye, that could be a very nice feature.
>> Oh, and one more thing before I'm out of here. For those of you who really
>> want your phone to be a phone and, if you're contemplating buying a Victor
>> Reader Stream, check out the 2017 Convention podcast from Blind Bargains,
>> which is all about the new, soon-to-be-released Victor Reader Trek.  I'm
>> considering saving up my ducats and buying one this fall. It will probably
>> be a very nice device indeed.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think any gps app will do that.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Husna Begum
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Husna
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in conjunction
>>> with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up other information
>>> like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is updated fairly often with
>>> fixes and new features. I recall seeing in the last update that their
>>> Open Street Map data was updated, whatever that means. If you want
>>> something more "blindness specific" which will tell you exactly where the
>>> door of

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

Waze uses a really great feature, where they get info from current users of 
their app as to what roads they are traveling on and how fast they are moving 
(it's called "crowd sourcing").  This is what lets it give you very accurate 
expected travel times for any route; it takes into consideration when a road is 
blocked for some reason.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Hi,
I'm coming in a bit late on this thread, but I'd like to first say that I've 
been using Nearby Explorer for about six months and really like it. Though its 
front screen is quite cluttered, you can  hide items that you don't want on 
that screen, thereby reducing that clutter. 
I live in Los Angeles, and, quite frankly, depending on the time of day, 
traffic, especially on the major freeways, is terrible.  Having used both 
Seeing Eye and Nearby Explorer extensively in vehicle mode, I've noticed that 
neither app will give you alternate vehicle routes which factor in bad traffic 
conditions. Normally my paratransit service will take me to and from work using 
the 405 and 101 freeways, which is fine under favorable conditions.  When both 
freeways are jammed, I've used Waze to get alternate routes, and, what's cool 
is, it will show you route options with their expected travel times and ETA's. 
I don't know what algorithms Waze uses, but if they could be plugged into 
vehicle modes in Nearby Explorer and/or Seeing Eye, that could be a very nice 
feature. 
Oh, and one more thing before I'm out of here. For those of you who really want 
your phone to be a phone and, if you're contemplating buying a Victor Reader 
Stream, check out the 2017 Convention podcast from Blind Bargains, which is all 
about the new, soon-to-be-released Victor Reader Trek.  I'm considering saving 
up my ducats and buying one this fall. It will probably be a very nice device 
indeed.
Tom
 

Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't think any gps app will do that.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Husna Begum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
> 
> Husna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not 
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can use 
> BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in conjunction with 
> Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up other information like 
> menus from many restaurants. Also, it is updated fairly often with fixes and 
> new features. I recall seeing in the last update that their Open Street Map 
> data was updated, whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness 
> specific" which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. 
> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>> 
>> Good points.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do 
>> not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for 
>> app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in 
>> North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the 
>> world.  Also, you do not say if you need the app in a language other 
>> than English.
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 
>> 20 languages.  English though is an international language spoken 
>> throughout the world by educated peple.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to 

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Kelly Pierce]

First, President Clinton removed the policy that enabled the Pentagon
to turn off portions of the GPS system in times of emergency.  In
recent years, satellites have been launched completely without this
capability.  Also, the signal is not degraded. The technology used
only provides accuracy to about 15 to 20 feet.  This may be one of the
reasons why some of the Tomahawk missiles were slightly off target and
did not fully destroy the airport where the planes took off to dump
poison gas on the Syrian people.

The one centimeter accuracy will be available when the system is fully
deployed and only for those companies that pay a licensing fee.  The
free version of Galileo will have an accuracy of three meters.

Kelly




On 7/6/17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> in danger of drifting off topic, but have you found any apps to use with
> your galaxy and Galileo?
>
> I just want to know about this accuracy business!
> Thanks, Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 10:37, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>> the galaxy s8 sold in the u.s. surely has galileo compatibility
>>
>> I am not sure about the version sold in europe because I don't find good
>> info about that version, wich I have in my possession :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 06/07/2017 11:17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>>> hi Andreya,
>>> While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still
>>> much greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!
>>>
>>> I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here,
>>> there might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know.
>>> however, this might be the very thing that will push me onto the android
>>> platform.
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
>>>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be
>>>> in 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>>>>> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough
>>>>> position to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to
>>>>> clocks on satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us
>>>>> access to many more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much
>>>>> greater accuracy from it. what's more, Galileo is up and running and
>>>>> has been since January. it has, already, greatly improved search and
>>>>> rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS system, at
>>>>> the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. so,
>>>>> if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use
>>>>> it, do please let us know!
>>>>>
>>>>> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>>>>>
>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is
>>>>>> located.
>>>>>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness
>>>>>> to ask passers-by.
>>>>>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>>>>>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it
>>>>>> entirely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Husna Begum
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Husna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>>>&g

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

in danger of drifting off topic, but have you found any apps to use with your 
galaxy and Galileo?

I just want to know about this accuracy business!
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 6 Jul 2017, at 10:37, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it> wrote:
> 
> the galaxy s8 sold in the u.s. surely has galileo compatibility
> 
> I am not sure about the version sold in europe because I don't find good info 
> about that version, wich I have in my possession :)
> 
> 
> 
> Il 06/07/2017 11:17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>> hi Andreya,
>> While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still 
>> much greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!
>> 
>> I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, 
>> there might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. 
>> however, this might be the very thing that will push me onto the android 
>> platform.
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 
>>> 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>>>> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough 
>>>> position to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to 
>>>> clocks on satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us 
>>>> access to many more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater 
>>>> accuracy from it. what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been 
>>>> since January. it has, already, greatly improved search and rescue 
>>>> response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS system, at the 
>>>> moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. so, if 
>>>> anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, do 
>>>> please let us know!
>>>> 
>>>> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>>>> 
>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
>>>>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to 
>>>>> ask passers-by.
>>>>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>>>>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it 
>>>>> entirely.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Husna Begum
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>> 
>>>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Husna
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>>>>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>>>>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>>>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>>>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>>>>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>>>>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>>>>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>>>>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>>>> 
>>>&

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Andrea Roveretto]

the galaxy s8 sold in the u.s. surely has galileo compatibility

I am not sure about the version sold in europe because I don't find good 
info about that version, wich I have in my possession :)




Il 06/07/2017 11:17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:

hi Andreya,
While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still much 
greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!

I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, there 
might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. however, this 
might be the very thing that will push me onto the android platform.

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it> wrote:

Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 2020 
or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.



Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
passers-by.
Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
say
and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
Nearby
explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
the world by educated peple.

Kelly


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
than Seeing Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
supports the &q

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi Andreya,
While you are correct, from everything I have read, the accuracy is still much 
greater than the other alternatives. I mean, as we speak, now!

I believe it runs on the Sanson galaxy, but I'm open to correction here, there 
might not even be such a thing as a Sampson galaxy, I don't know. however, this 
might be the very thing that will push me onto the android platform.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 6 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Andrea Roveretto <and...@andrearoveretto.it> wrote:
> 
> Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be in 
> 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.
> 
> 
> 
> Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:
>> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position 
>> to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on 
>> satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many 
>> more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. 
>> what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, 
>> already, greatly improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the 
>> only non-military GPS system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions 
>> of accuracy do not apply. so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as 
>> to which devices can use it, do please let us know!
>> 
>> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
>>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to 
>>> ask passers-by.
>>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it 
>>> entirely.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Husna Begum
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>>> 
>>> Husna
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>> 
>>>> Good points.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> 
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>> 
>>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
>>>> say
>>>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>>>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>>>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
>>>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>>>> Nearby
>>>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>>>> languages.  English though is an internationa

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Andrea Roveretto]

Anyway the galileo system is not  completely working yet... it will be 
in 2020 or 2021, when all the satellites will be active.




Il 06/07/2017 10:31, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone ha scritto:

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
passers-by.
Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
say
and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
Nearby
explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
the world by educated peple.

Kelly


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
than Seeing Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
supports the "What Three Words" service.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
of Nearby Explorer.

I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
offered for Nearby Explorer.

If money is very importan

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position to 
actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on satellites 
and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many more decimal 
points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it. what's more, 
Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has, already, greatly 
improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the only non-military GPS 
system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions of accuracy do not apply. 
so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as to which devices can use it, 
do please let us know!

from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.  
> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
> passers-by.
> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Husna Begum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
> 
> Husna
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
> works for me and suits my purposes.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>> 
>> Good points.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not 
>> say
>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English. 
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
>> the world by educated peple.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>> 
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>> 
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>> 
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
>>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Kelly Pierce]

Chip,

Nearby Explorer for iOS recently updated its maps and they are current
from the first quarter of 2017.  That’s impressive considering the
product was introduced in September 2016.  Unlike online maps, Nearby
Explorer works great in urban canyons, in valleys with poor cell
service and in lightly populated areas with limited cell phone
coverage.


Andy,

To obtain directions on Nearby Explorer, double tap the search tab on
the bottom of the screen and type or dictate an address.  Nearby
Explore will match the address to one it recognizes in its map.  The
end user is presented with the option for either a list of directions
or for guided turn-by-turn directions.  The app only provides walking
and driving directions though.  Public transit directions are
available from Move It, Apple Maps or Google Maps.

Kelly




On 7/5/17, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> How does one create a route with Nearby Explorer.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm coming in a bit late on this thread, but I'd like to first say that
>> I've been using Nearby Explorer for about six months and really like it.
>> Though its front screen is quite cluttered, you can  hide items that you
>> don't want on that screen, thereby reducing that clutter.
>> I live in Los Angeles, and, quite frankly, depending on the time of day,
>> traffic, especially on the major freeways, is terrible.  Having used both
>> Seeing Eye and Nearby Explorer extensively in vehicle mode, I've noticed
>> that neither app will give you alternate vehicle routes which factor in
>> bad traffic conditions. Normally my paratransit service will take me to
>> and from work using the 405 and 101 freeways, which is fine under
>> favorable conditions.  When both freeways are jammed, I've used Waze to
>> get alternate routes, and, what's cool is, it will show you route options
>> with their expected travel times and ETA's. I don't know what algorithms
>> Waze uses, but if they could be plugged into vehicle modes in Nearby
>> Explorer and/or Seeing Eye, that could be a very nice feature.
>> Oh, and one more thing before I'm out of here. For those of you who really
>> want your phone to be a phone and, if you're contemplating buying a Victor
>> Reader Stream, check out the 2017 Convention podcast from Blind Bargains,
>> which is all about the new, soon-to-be-released Victor Reader Trek.  I'm
>> considering saving up my ducats and buying one this fall. It will probably
>> be a very nice device indeed.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think any gps app will do that.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Husna Begum
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Husna
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in conjunction
>>> with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up other information
>>> like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is updated fairly often with
>>> fixes and new features. I recall seeing in the last update that their
>>> Open Street Map data was updated, whatever that means. If you want
>>> something more "blindness specific" which will tell you exactly where the
>>> door of a business is locate relative to you, then go for one of the
>>> other more expensive apps. BlindSquare works for me and suits my
>>> purposes.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>>
>>>> Good points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of 

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Andy Baracco]

How does one create a route with Nearby Explorer.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm coming in a bit late on this thread, but I'd like to first say that I've 
> been using Nearby Explorer for about six months and really like it. Though 
> its front screen is quite cluttered, you can  hide items that you don't want 
> on that screen, thereby reducing that clutter. 
> I live in Los Angeles, and, quite frankly, depending on the time of day, 
> traffic, especially on the major freeways, is terrible.  Having used both 
> Seeing Eye and Nearby Explorer extensively in vehicle mode, I've noticed that 
> neither app will give you alternate vehicle routes which factor in bad 
> traffic conditions. Normally my paratransit service will take me to and from 
> work using the 405 and 101 freeways, which is fine under favorable 
> conditions.  When both freeways are jammed, I've used Waze to get alternate 
> routes, and, what's cool is, it will show you route options with their 
> expected travel times and ETA's. I don't know what algorithms Waze uses, but 
> if they could be plugged into vehicle modes in Nearby Explorer and/or Seeing 
> Eye, that could be a very nice feature. 
> Oh, and one more thing before I'm out of here. For those of you who really 
> want your phone to be a phone and, if you're contemplating buying a Victor 
> Reader Stream, check out the 2017 Convention podcast from Blind Bargains, 
> which is all about the new, soon-to-be-released Victor Reader Trek.  I'm 
> considering saving up my ducats and buying one this fall. It will probably be 
> a very nice device indeed.
> Tom
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think any gps app will do that.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Husna Begum
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>> 
>> Husna
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not 
>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can use 
>> BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in conjunction with 
>> Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up other information like 
>> menus from many restaurants. Also, it is updated fairly often with fixes and 
>> new features. I recall seeing in the last update that their Open Street Map 
>> data was updated, whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness 
>> specific" which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
>> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. 
>> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Kelly:
>>> 
>>> Good points.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do 
>>> not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for 
>>> app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in 
>>> North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the 
>>> world.  Also, you do not say if you need the app in a language other 
>>> than English.
>>> Nearby
>>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 
>>> 20 languages.  English though is an international language spoken 
>>> throughout the world by educated peple.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Well,
>>>> 
>>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
>>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>&g

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Richard Turner]

No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.  
That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to ask 
passers-by.
Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it entirely.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> Kelly:
>
> Good points.
>
>
> ---
>
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not 
> say
> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English. 
> Nearby
> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
> the world by educated peple.
>
> Kelly
>
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>
>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>
>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>
>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
>> of Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
>> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
>> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
>> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not
>> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones
>> created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is 
>> the
>> best.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I'm coming in a bit late on this thread, but I'd like to first say that I've 
been using Nearby Explorer for about six months and really like it. Though its 
front screen is quite cluttered, you can  hide items that you don't want on 
that screen, thereby reducing that clutter. 
I live in Los Angeles, and, quite frankly, depending on the time of day, 
traffic, especially on the major freeways, is terrible.  Having used both 
Seeing Eye and Nearby Explorer extensively in vehicle mode, I've noticed that 
neither app will give you alternate vehicle routes which factor in bad traffic 
conditions. Normally my paratransit service will take me to and from work using 
the 405 and 101 freeways, which is fine under favorable conditions.  When both 
freeways are jammed, I've used Waze to get alternate routes, and, what's cool 
is, it will show you route options with their expected travel times and ETA's. 
I don't know what algorithms Waze uses, but if they could be plugged into 
vehicle modes in Nearby Explorer and/or Seeing Eye, that could be a very nice 
feature. 
Oh, and one more thing before I'm out of here. For those of you who really want 
your phone to be a phone and, if you're contemplating buying a Victor Reader 
Stream, check out the 2017 Convention podcast from Blind Bargains, which is all 
about the new, soon-to-be-released Victor Reader Trek.  I'm considering saving 
up my ducats and buying one this fall. It will probably be a very nice device 
indeed.
Tom
 

Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't think any gps app will do that.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Husna Begum
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
> 
> Husna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not 
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can use 
> BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in conjunction with 
> Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up other information like 
> menus from many restaurants. Also, it is updated fairly often with fixes and 
> new features. I recall seeing in the last update that their Open Street Map 
> data was updated, whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness 
> specific" which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. 
> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>> 
>> Good points.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>> 
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do 
>> not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for 
>> app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in 
>> North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the 
>> world.  Also, you do not say if you need the app in a language other 
>> than English.
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 
>> 20 languages.  English though is an international language spoken 
>> throughout the world by educated peple.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>> 
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your 
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>> 
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option 
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than 
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>> 
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only in

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Larry Lumpkin]

I don't think any gps app will do that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not 
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can use 
BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in conjunction with 
Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up other information like menus 
from many restaurants. Also, it is updated fairly often with fixes and new 
features. I recall seeing in the last update that their Open Street Map data 
was updated, whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness 
specific" which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare 
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> Kelly:
>
> Good points.
>
>
> ---
>
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do 
> not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for 
> app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in 
> North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the 
> world.  Also, you do not say if you need the app in a language other 
> than English.
> Nearby
> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 
> 20 languages.  English though is an international language spoken 
> throughout the world by educated peple.
>
> Kelly
>
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>
>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your 
>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>
>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option 
>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than 
>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>
>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by 
>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's 
>> been around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also 
>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with 
>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the 
>> $80 of Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can 
>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department), 
>> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing 
>> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism 
>> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not 
>> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" 
>> ones created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's 
>> price is the best.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides 
>> the most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I 
>> would go with nearby explorer for s

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Husna Begum]

which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.

Husna

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:

Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not 
say

and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English. 
Nearby

explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
the world by educated peple.

Kelly

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:

Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
than Seeing Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
supports the "What Three Words" service.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
of Nearby Explorer.

I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
offered for Nearby Explorer.

If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not
my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones
created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is 
the

best.

Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the
most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would
go with nearby explorer for sure.
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Re: which GPS app should I buy?

[Pete Nalda]

This is a biggie folks, as far is apps go. I love it because one it will run in 
the background, with voiceover off even, 2, it tells me what's nearby. The only 
thing I don't like is that the interface is a light red color that would be 
better darker for more contrast.  Also, when you tell people about the app and 
you share the app details, it gives the description in Spanish. I'm guessing 
.cl is a Latin country

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I do not know if it is a feature or just accidental.  Yesterday I was on the 
> bus with the explore mode on.  It suddenly announced, "fast food wendies 173 
> feet on the right".
> I assume it will always do that.  But I have not tested it long enough to 
> know all features.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Ulrich
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?
> 
> Hi, question:
> Does the Lazarillo GPS app also tell you what side of the street your 
> destination is on?
> As in; something like: "Publix Shopping Center 1000 feet ahead on the right"?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?
> 
> I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
> It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a 
> very cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the 
> user to the coming streets  ahead of time.
> What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos 
> of Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and that 
> could distract me.
> What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
> streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the 
> phrase "behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that 
> it already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no 
> need to remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from it.
> Cheers,
> Cris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
> recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
> maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber rides 
> from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if 
> favorites are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know 
> you can add favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button 
> toward the top of the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks 
> like you have to go to the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, 
> it's free so there's nothing to lose.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses. 
>> Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car 
>> even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't 
>> like about it is that the phone has to be awake,
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian 
>>> <synergydra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
>>> Has anyone had experience with this one?
>>> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
>>> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
>>> 
>>> Teresa☺
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is 
>>>> not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, 
>>>> you can use BlindSquare to get information 

RE: which GPS app should I buy?

[Cris Ali]

I do not know if it is a feature or just accidental.  Yesterday I was on the 
bus with the explore mode on.  It suddenly announced, "fast food wendies 173 
feet on the right".
I assume it will always do that.  But I have not tested it long enough to know 
all features.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

Hi, question:
Does the Lazarillo GPS app also tell you what side of the street your 
destination is on?
As in; something like: "Publix Shopping Center 1000 feet ahead on the right"?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a very 
cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the user to 
the coming streets  ahead of time.
What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos of 
Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and that 
could distract me.
What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the phrase 
"behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that it 
already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no need to 
remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from it.
Cheers,
Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber rides 
from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if favorites 
are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know you can add 
favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button toward the top of 
the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks like you have to go to 
the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's free so there's 
nothing to lose.

Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses. 
> Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car 
> even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't 
> like about it is that the phone has to be awake,
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian 
>> <synergydra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
>> Has anyone had experience with this one?
>> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does 
>> that.
>>
>> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
>> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
>>
>> Teresa☺
>>
>>
>>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is 
>>> not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, 
>>> you can use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, 
>>> in conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look 
>>> up other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is 
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in 
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, 
>>> whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness specific"
>>> which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
>>> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps.
>>> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>>
>>>> Good points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
&g

RE: which GPS app should I buy?

[Mike Ulrich]

That sounds doable. I've always had very good cardinal direction.
I've downloaded the app yesterday and hope to take it out for a test drive 
today.
But since I'm being driven  up  to Tampa this morning; hopefully to get on 
their kidney transplant list, I'll be testing it in the vehicular driving mode.
So we'll see how it goes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should I buy?

hi Mike haven't tried it out yet but from what I have sussed it gives you 
compass directions as in - bus stop 400 m to the east home that is of some use

Janet

-Original Message-
From: Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

Hi, question:
Does the Lazarillo GPS app also tell you what side of the street your 
destination is on?
As in; something like: "Publix Shopping Center 1000 feet ahead on the right"?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a very 
cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the user to 
the coming streets  ahead of time.
What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos of 
Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and that 
could distract me.
What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the phrase 
"behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that it 
already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no need to 
remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from it.
Cheers,
Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber rides 
from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if favorites 
are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know you can add 
favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button toward the top of 
the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks like you have to go to 
the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's free so there's 
nothing to lose.

Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses.
> Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car 
> even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't 
> like about it is that the phone has to be awake,
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian 
>> <synergydra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
>> Has anyone had experience with this one?
>> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does 
>> that.
>>
>> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
>> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
>>
>> Teresa☺
>>
>>
>>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is 
>>> not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, 
>>> you can use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, 
>>> in conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look 
>>> up other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is 
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in 
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, 
>>> whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness specific"
>>> which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
>>> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps.
>>> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>

Re: which GPS app should I buy?

[Janet Bell]

hi Mike haven't tried it out yet but from what I have sussed it gives you 
compass directions as in - bus stop 400 m to the east home that is of some 
use


Janet

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

Hi, question:
Does the Lazarillo GPS app also tell you what side of the street your 
destination is on?
As in; something like: "Publix Shopping Center 1000 feet ahead on the 
right"?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a 
very cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the 
user to the coming streets  ahead of time.
What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos 
of Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and 
that could distract me.
What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the 
phrase "behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that 
it already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no 
need to remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from 
it.

Cheers,
Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber 
rides from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if 
favorites are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know 
you can add favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button 
toward the top of the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks 
like you have to go to the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, 
it's free so there's nothing to lose.


Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses.
Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car
even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't
like about it is that the phone has to be awake,

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian
<synergydra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
Has anyone had experience with this one?
I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does
that.

It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
I am a big fan of Blind Square.

Teresa☺



On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is
not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B,
you can use BlindSquare to get information about your environment,
in conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look
up other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated,
whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness specific"
which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate
relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps.
BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You
do not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking
for app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently
available in North America while the other two have maps for other
parts of the world.
Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
Nearby
explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more
than 20 languages.  English though is an international language
spoken throughout the world by educated peple.

Kelly


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconfere

RE: which GPS app should I buy?

[Mike Ulrich]

Hi, question:
Does the Lazarillo GPS app also tell you what side of the street your 
destination is on?
As in; something like: "Publix Shopping Center 1000 feet ahead on the right"?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a very 
cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the user to 
the coming streets  ahead of time.
What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos of 
Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and that 
could distract me.
What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the phrase 
"behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that it 
already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no need to 
remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from it.
Cheers,
Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber rides 
from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if favorites 
are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know you can add 
favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button toward the top of 
the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks like you have to go to 
the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's free so there's 
nothing to lose.

Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses. 
> Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car 
> even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't 
> like about it is that the phone has to be awake,
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian 
>> <synergydra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
>> Has anyone had experience with this one?
>> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does 
>> that.
>>
>> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
>> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
>>
>> Teresa☺
>>
>>
>>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is 
>>> not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, 
>>> you can use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, 
>>> in conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look 
>>> up other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is 
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in 
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, 
>>> whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness specific"
>>> which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
>>> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps.
>>> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>>
>>>> Good points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>
>>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You 
>>>> do not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking 
>>>> for app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently 
>>>> available in North Amer

Re: which GPS app should I buy?

[Janet Bell]

Hi Chris thanks for lazarillo I have just downloaded it and so far 
brilliant.  Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Cris Ali

Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should I buy?

I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a 
very cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the 
user to the coming streets  ahead of time.
What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos 
of Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and 
that could distract me.
What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the 
phrase "behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that 
it already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no 
need to remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from 
it.

Cheers,
Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber 
rides from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if 
favorites are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know 
you can add favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button 
toward the top of the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks 
like you have to go to the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, 
it's free so there's nothing to lose.


Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses.
Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car
even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't
like about it is that the phone has to be awake,

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian
<synergydra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
Has anyone had experience with this one?
I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does
that.

It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
I am a big fan of Blind Square.

Teresa☺



On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is
not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B,
you can use BlindSquare to get information about your environment,
in conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look
up other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated,
whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness specific"
which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate
relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps.
BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You
do not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking
for app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently
available in North America while the other two have maps for other
parts of the world.
Also,
you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
Nearby
explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more
than 20 languages.  English though is an international language
spoken throughout the world by educated peple.

Kelly


On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
than Seeing Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS syste

RE: which GPS app should I buy?

[Cris Ali]

I gave Lazarillo a try today and find it very promising for a free app.
It uses apple maps or google maps for turn by turn directions, and have a very 
cool explore feature which announces the cross sections and alert the user to 
the coming streets  ahead of time.
What I like a lot about it is that it does not talk too much.  I heard demos of 
Blind Square and Nearby Explorer and felt that they talk too much and that 
could distract me.
What I did not like about Lazarillo is that it continues to announce the 
streets I have already crossed and the distances to them, by adding the phrase 
"behind you". I find this redundant and unnecessary, considering that it 
already announced the street several times before I crossed it, and no need to 
remind me that I have already crossed it and I am moving away from it.
Cheers,
Cris

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was mentioned 
recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare, can be used with 
maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can also request Uber rides 
from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last week, but I don't know if favorites 
are as easy to mark as in other GPS apps already mentioned. I know you can add 
favorites, but for instance, in BlindSquare there is a button toward the top of 
the screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks like you have to go to 
the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's free so there's 
nothing to lose.

Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses. 
> Something like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car 
> even. To my knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't 
> like about it is that the phone has to be awake,
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian 
>> <synergydra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
>> Has anyone had experience with this one?
>> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does 
>> that.
>>
>> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
>> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
>>
>> Teresa☺
>>
>>
>>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is 
>>> not specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, 
>>> you can use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, 
>>> in conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look 
>>> up other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is 
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in 
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, 
>>> whatever that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" 
>>> which will tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate 
>>> relative to you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. 
>>> BlindSquare works for me and suits my purposes.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>>
>>>> Good points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>
>>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You 
>>>> do not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking 
>>>> for app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently 
>>>> available in North America while the other two have maps for other 
>>>> parts of the world.
>>>> Also,
>>>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>>>> Nearby
>>>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more 
>>>> than 20 languages.  English though is an international language 
>>>> spoken throughout the world by educa

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

Mary,

Do you know if Seeing Eye has an email address where you can send support 
questions?  APH does not even have this (which I think is really something they 
should remedy), you can only submit your questions to the mailing list (so, no 
trouble ticket tracking of problems, and it's a lot more difficult to watch the 
list and find any answer you may receive).  

Take care,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Seeing Eye GPS does not have direct phone support. They do for their other 
products, but not for this one. On the other hand, right now, it is $200, not 
$300, and they have just introduced a breadcrumb feature, which should make it 
extremely useful for people who need to navigate in areas such as college 
campuses or other large open spaces where streets are nonexistent or can be 
misleading. So for that alone, I think it deserves a serious look. That and 
it's interface is less cluttered also, of course it requires that you have a 
good cell connection, because maps are all online, whereas nearby makes you 
download Maps which take up a lot of space. Maybe not a big deal, depending on 
the size of your iPhone and how much storage you have left. They both have 
their strong points.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing Eye; 
> it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby Explorer.
> 
> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up a 
> phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as Nearby 
> Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack of 
> support is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.
> 
> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my 
> favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created 
> by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
> go with nearby explorer for sure.
> Original message:
>> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one bo 
>> buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please help 
>> me decide thanks --
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RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

Arriadne also uses Open Street Maps for its data, so again my dislike as I find 
it quite inaccurate as compared to the other choices.  I did write to the 
author of Blind Square to ask if we could submit updates to the Open Street Map 
data when we found problems, and he said no, there was no accessible way of 
doing this, and to not submit them to him as he wasn't going to try to correct 
OSM data.  

I am very impressed with what Arriadne can do for such a small price, but it 
seems more of a curiousity than a serious navigational aid.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

Thatonewas all the rage about 4 or 5 years ago, but just as Blindsquare it will 
not give turn by turn directions unless it was updated to include this 
functionality. If, however, it was it would have probably been mentioned n the 
list and I have not seen Ariadne getting mentioned in a long time.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
Has anyone had experience with this one?
I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does that.

It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
I am a big fan of Blind Square.

Teresa☺


On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not 
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can 
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in 
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up 
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is 
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in 
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever 
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will 
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to 
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare 
> works for me and suits my purposes.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>>
>> Good points.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do 
>> not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for 
>> app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in 
>> North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the 
>> world.
>> Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 
>> 20 languages.  English though is an international language spoken 
>> throughout the world by educated peple.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>>
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your 
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>>
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option 
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than 
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>>
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, 
>>> by far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's 
>>> been around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also 
>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>&

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

Thank you Mary for the up-to-date info.

The other advantage of online maps (in addition to not taking up space on your 
phone) is that they have the potential to be updated frequently, and then the 
users immediately benefit from the updates.  When I was using MS MapPoint over 
the internet, they would even update for temporary construction and other types 
of road blockages, it was great! (this was for another project and not for my 
personal GPS use).  I don't know how often or when Seeing Eye updates their 
maps, but the potential is there, where-as you know the supplier of a 2gb 
download for maps isn't going to update very often.

Also, I agree about the interface, especially the poor way in which Nearby 
Explorer implements the "IOS action menu" choices for home screen objects.  You 
only get one menu choice, which is "menu", which then takes you to another 
screen (so essentially, no use of IOS action menus, which is frustrating.  I 
suspect this may be due to trying to keep up two versions of the app.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Seeing Eye GPS does not have direct phone support. They do for their other 
products, but not for this one. On the other hand, right now, it is $200, not 
$300, and they have just introduced a breadcrumb feature, which should make it 
extremely useful for people who need to navigate in areas such as college 
campuses or other large open spaces where streets are nonexistent or can be 
misleading. So for that alone, I think it deserves a serious look. That and 
it's interface is less cluttered also, of course it requires that you have a 
good cell connection, because maps are all online, whereas nearby makes you 
download Maps which take up a lot of space. Maybe not a big deal, depending on 
the size of your iPhone and how much storage you have left. They both have 
their strong points.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing Eye; 
> it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby Explorer.
> 
> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up a 
> phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as Nearby 
> Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack of 
> support is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.
> 
> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my 
> favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created 
> by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
> 
> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
> go with nearby explorer for sure.
> Original message:
>> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one bo 
>> buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please help 
>> me decide thanks --
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Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Wayne Merritt]

If free apps are being considered, take a look at one that was
mentioned recently called Lazarillo. It is free and like BlindSquare,
can be used with maps from Apple and Google to get directions. You can
also request Uber rides from within Lazarillo. I looked at it last
week, but I don't know if favorites are as easy to mark as in other
GPS apps already mentioned. I know you can add favorites, but for
instance, in BlindSquare there is a button toward the top of the
screen which says Add Place. In Lazarillo, it looks like you have to
go to the favorites screen, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it's free so
there's nothing to lose.

Wayne

On 6/19/17, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses. Something
> like 1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car even. To my
> knowledge I don't think it does landmarks.what I don't like about it is that
> the phone has to be awake,
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> MySpace.com/musikonalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian <synergydra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
>> Has anyone had experience with this one?
>> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does
>> that.
>>
>> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
>> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
>>
>> Teresa☺
>>
>>
>>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Kelly:
>>>>
>>>> Good points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>
>>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do
>>>> not
>>>> say
>>>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>>>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>>>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.
>>>> Also,
>>>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>>>> Nearby
>>>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>>>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken
>>>> throughout
>>>> the world by educated peple.
>>>>
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>>>>
>>>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>>>>
>>>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only int

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Pete Nalda]

Ariadne does read out intersections and approximate addresses. Something like 
1000 to 2000 S. 1st St. Yeah. I've used in the car even. To my knowledge I 
don't think it does landmarks.what I don't like about it is that the phone has 
to be awake,

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Teresa Christian <synergydra...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
> Has anyone had experience with this one?
> I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does that.
> 
> It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
> I am a big fan of Blind Square.
> 
> Teresa☺
> 
> 
>> On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Kelly:
>>> 
>>> Good points.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>> 
>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
>>> say
>>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.
>>> Also,
>>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>>> Nearby
>>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
>>> the world by educated peple.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Well,
>>>> 
>>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>>> 
>>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>>> 
>>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>>> 
>>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>>>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare. It's been
>>>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
>>>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
>>>> of Nearby Explorer.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
>>>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their suppo

RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thatonewas all the rage about 4 or 5 years ago, but just as Blindsquare it will 
not give turn by turn directions unless it was updated to include this 
functionality. If, however, it was it would have probably been mentioned n the 
list and I have not seen Ariadne getting mentioned in a long time.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
Has anyone had experience with this one?
I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does that.

It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
I am a big fan of Blind Square.

Teresa☺


On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not 
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can 
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in 
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up 
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is 
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in 
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever 
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will 
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to 
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare 
> works for me and suits my purposes.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>>
>> Good points.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do 
>> not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for 
>> app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in 
>> North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the 
>> world.
>> Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 
>> 20 languages.  English though is an international language spoken 
>> throughout the world by educated peple.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>>
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your 
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>>
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option 
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than 
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>>
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, 
>>> by far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's 
>>> been around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also 
>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with 
>>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the 
>>> $80 of Nearby Explorer.
>>>
>>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can 
>>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support 
>>> department), where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing 
>>> list (nothing else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only 
>>> significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.
>>>
>>> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not 
>>> my favorite because the maps it use

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Teresa Christian]

I just downloaded a GPS app called "airidne"
Has anyone had experience with this one?
I was told it will do step by step but I haven't sceen where it does that.

It was $5.99 so inexpensive to try.
I am a big fan of Blind Square.

Teresa☺


On 6/19/17, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
> works for me and suits my purposes.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Kelly:
>>
>> Good points.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
>> say
>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.
>> Also,
>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>> Nearby
>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
>> the world by educated peple.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>>
>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>>
>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>>
>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
>>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
>>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
>>> of Nearby Explorer.
>>>
>>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
>>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
>>> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
>>> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
>>> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>>>
>>> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not
>>> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones
>>> created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is
>>> the
>>> best.
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i bu

Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Wayne Merritt]

I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
works for me and suits my purposes.

Wayne

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> Kelly:
>
> Good points.
>
>
> ---
>
> Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not say
> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also,
> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.  Nearby
> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
> languages.  English though is an international language spoken throughout
> the world by educated peple.
>
> Kelly
>
> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>
>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>
>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>
>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
>> of Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
>> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
>> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
>> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>>
>> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not
>> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones
>> created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the
>> best.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the
>> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would
>> go with nearby explorer for sure.
>> Original message:
>>> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one
>>> bo buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please
>>> help me decide thanks -- The following information is important for
>>> all members of the V iPhone list.
>>
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>>> the owners or moderators directly rather t

RE: which GPS app should I buy?

[Mike Ulrich]

One other comment to make on the Nearby explorer app:
It will take up far more storage space on the IPhone, as compared to the Seeing 
Eye app. This is because the Near By Explorer app has everything on the IPhone 
itself, not cloud based such as the Seeing Eye app. BTW: I now have one year of 
the Seeing Eye app on my 128 gig SE. But when I run out of that subscription; I 
won't renew it, instead I'll purchase the Near By Explorer app for $79.99. 
Since I now have plenty of storage; this ain't no problem.
I've recently done far more research into the whole blind GPS dilemma, and in 
my opinion; Nearby Explorer sounds far more usable/and way cool too! A real 
winner; hands down!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, navigational, 
or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your choices are 
"Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option than Seeing 
Eye GPS;
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by far, your 
best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been around now for 
some time and is a very mature product.  It also supports the "What Three 
Words" service.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing Eye; 
it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby Explorer.

I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up a 
phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as Nearby 
Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack of support 
is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.

If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my 
favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created by 
volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.

Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the most 
automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would go with nearby 
explorer for sure.
Original message:
> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one bo 
> buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please 
> help me decide thanks -- The following information is important for 
> all members of the V iPhone list.

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RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Jim Noseworthy]

Kelly:

Good points.


---

Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not say 
and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app 
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North America 
while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also, you do not 
say if you need the app in a language other than English.  Nearby explorer 
supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20 languages.  
English though is an international language spoken throughout the world by 
educated peple.

Kelly

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> Well,
>
> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>
> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your 
> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>
> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option 
> than Seeing Eye GPS;
> 1:  It's much cheeper;
> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than 
> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>
> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by 
> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been 
> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also 
> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with 
> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 
> of Nearby Explorer.
>
> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can 
> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department), 
> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing 
> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism 
> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>
> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not 
> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones 
> created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the 
> best.
>
> Hth,
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
> go with nearby explorer for sure.
> Original message:
>> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one 
>> bo buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please 
>> help me decide thanks -- The following information is important for 
>> all members of the V iPhone list.
>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
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RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And currently (unless it ended already) Seeing Eye GPS is $100 off, so $199 
instead of $299 for the XT version which you buy only once. If you were able to 
combine this with some discounted iTunes Gift Cards you could get it for little 
more than double of what Nearby Explorer costs and I agree that the breadcrums 
feature should be very useful for many people who need to cross open spaces.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not say 
and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app 
recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North America 
while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.  Also, you do not 
say if you need the app in a language other than English.  Nearby explorer 
supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20 languages.  
English though is an international language spoken throughout the world by 
educated peple.

Kelly

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> Well,
>
> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, 
> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>
> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your 
> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>
> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option 
> than Seeing Eye GPS;
> 1:  It's much cheeper;
> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than 
> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>
> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by 
> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been 
> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also 
> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with 
> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 
> of Nearby Explorer.
>
> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can 
> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department), 
> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing 
> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism 
> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>
> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not 
> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones 
> created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the 
> best.
>
> Hth,
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
> go with nearby explorer for sure.
> Original message:
>> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one 
>> bo buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please 
>> help me decide thanks -- The following information is important for 
>> all members of the V iPhone list.
>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
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Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Kelly Pierce]

Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do
not say and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for
app recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in
North America while the other two have maps for other parts of the
world.  Also, you do not say if you need the app in a language other
than English.  Nearby explorer supports only English while Blind
Square supports more than 20 languages.  English though is an
international language spoken throughout the world by educated peple.

Kelly

On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> Well,
>
> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>
> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your choices are
> "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>
> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option than
> Seeing Eye GPS;
> 1:  It's much cheeper;
> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than Seeing-Eye
> GPS.
>
> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by far,
> your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been around now
> for some time and is a very mature product.  It also supports the "What
> Three Words" service.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing
> Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby
> Explorer.
>
> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up
> a phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as
> Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack
> of support is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby
> Explorer.
>
> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my
> favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created
> by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.
>
> Hth,
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the most
> automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would go with
> nearby explorer for sure.
> Original message:
>> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one bo
>> buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please
>> help me decide thanks -- The following information is important for
>> all members of the V iPhone list.
>
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
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RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Jim Noseworthy]

Well,

It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational, navigational, 
or both and what you're willing to spend.

If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your choices are 
"Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."

In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option than Seeing 
Eye GPS; 
1:  It's much cheeper;
2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than Seeing-Eye GPS.

If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by far, your 
best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been around now for 
some time and is a very mature product.  It also supports the "What Three 
Words" service.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?

I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing Eye; 
it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby Explorer.

I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up a 
phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as Nearby 
Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack of support 
is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.

If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my 
favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created by 
volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.

Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?

In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the most 
automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would go with nearby 
explorer for sure.
Original message:
> hello friends. I would like to buy a GPS but I'm not sure which one bo 
> buy? nearby explorer, the seeing eye GPS, or seeing eye XT? please 
> help me decide thanks -- The following information is important for 
> all members of the V iPhone list.

> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Mary Otten]

Seeing Eye GPS does not have direct phone support. They do for their other 
products, but not for this one. On the other hand, right now, it is $200, not 
$300, and they have just introduced a breadcrumb feature, which should make it 
extremely useful for people who need to navigate in areas such as college 
campuses or other large open spaces where streets are nonexistent or can be 
misleading. So for that alone, I think it deserves a serious look. That and 
it's interface is less cluttered also, of course it requires that you have a 
good cell connection, because maps are all online, whereas nearby makes you 
download Maps which take up a lot of space. Maybe not a big deal, depending on 
the size of your iPhone and how much storage you have left. They both have 
their strong points.
Mary


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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing Eye; 
> it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby Explorer.
> 
> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up a 
> phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as Nearby 
> Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack of 
> support is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.
> 
> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my 
> favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created 
> by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mike Arrigo
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> 
> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
> go with nearby explorer for sure.
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RE: which GPS app should i buy?

[Chip Orange]

I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with Seeing Eye; 
it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80 of Nearby Explorer.

I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can pick up a 
phone and call someone, or email their support department), where-as Nearby 
Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing else).  The lack of support 
is perhaps my only significant criticism offered for Nearby Explorer.

If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not my 
favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones created by 
volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is the best.

Hth,

Chip


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In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
go with nearby explorer for sure.
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Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Mike Arrigo]

In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the 
most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would 
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Re: which GPS app should i buy?

[Gadget Girl]

Hi.  Here is a helpful podcast on NE that could help you make up your mind.  
Enjoy. 
http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2016/08/nearby-explorer-IOS.mp3

Regards, 
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> On Jun 12, 2017, at 2:29 AM, masood  wrote:
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