Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-13 Thread Kelly Ford
Has anyone figured out how to switch from the video to the radio feed? 



 On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by the audio descriptions are an after thought.
 
 Audio pass streamed the radio broadcasts heard in the local markets. I don't 
 think this is an after thought. They're the same radio broadcasts anyone in 
 the local market would hear, whether they're blind or sighted.
 
 If you mean including radio broadcasts in the same package as the video 
 broadcasts, instead of splitting them out separately, then although I'd like 
 to see this happen myself, I suspect it wasn't so much an afterthought as 
 instead a way of consolidating the delivery mechanism into one 
 implementation. I personally plan on letting the NFL know that I'd rather pay 
 for an audio only option, like we had with AudioPass, and I may be passing on 
 the video package. Maybe if the NFL gets enough such feedback, they'll 
 include an audio only option in the streaming package.
 
 If you're saying that the audio you get during a game is an afterthought then 
 I'd disagree. They broadcasted an NFL game with no audio a few years ago, and 
 it was a total flop. People, including sighted people, like the real time 
 analysis of the game that you get during a TV broadcast. For me, I don't find 
 the radio announcers so good or the TV announcers so bad that listening to a 
 game on TV is a waste of my time as compared to a radio broadcast. I can 
 usually follow a game just fine on TV, and I'll often listen to a nationally 
 televised game of my favorite team when it's shown in my area over the homers 
 on the radio broadcast.
 
 On 08/12/2015 11:37 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 My wife is telling me go ahead and buy the hundred dollar package if it gets 
 you the audio content.  I'm not going to do it.  I didn't have a problem 
 with the audiopass at 40 bucks.  But when you insist on getting a more 
 expensive package because most people want the video and the audio 
 descriptions are at best an after thought, no way.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud 
 cheer and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 
 yard line.  That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how 
 the team lines up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, 
 then $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any 
 team as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or 
 from the visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I 
 listened to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home 
 or away teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting with 
 preseason through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
 Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super
 Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
 get the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon 
 to Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio.
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was
 told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a
 subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive
 my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any
 link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another

Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-13 Thread Rich Ring
The NFL has more money than any other professional sport, and they’re audio is 
horrible. They should learn from MLB, they know how to do it!
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 OK, does that  mean you get to hear the audio from the TV which I wouldn't be 
 interested in or is it the audio from the radio station that carries the 
 game.  For example, the audio comming from WBBM Radio news radio 78 out of 
 Chicago?  I'm not crazy about having to pay a hundred bucks to listen to 
 Bears games when it only cost me 40 bucks last season but as they say, poopoo 
 occurs.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com 
 mailto:miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The no commercials thing only applies to the TV portion, where you can watch 
 the games on-demand. I think people are getting that confused.
 GamePass allows you to either listen to live audio feeds of every game 
 including playoffs and the Super Bowl, or you can watch them on-demand with 
 the TV broadcasts with no commercials, and DVR functionality.
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net 
 mailto:br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 Wow! I thought that normally, the commercials are replaced with boring 
 PSA's or silence. I'm not sure how it will be for regular games that aren't 
 the Superbowl. There's supposedly all kinds of rights issues with the 
 commercials, as I'm sure the station would like nothing more than to have 
 the commercials seen further by having them online.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:35 PM
 Subject: RE: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching a 
 baseball game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing the 
 plays, we had Cox cable, not sure what she had but it was not COX at that 
 time.  She could hear the bat hit through our phone before she could see 
 the play, I think there was about a minute delay between the two on the 
 same station, same game.  They were laughing about it because Tom would 
 make comments before she could see the action.  She was not well, and they 
 often visited during sporting events they both enjoyed but the delay was 
 usually a matter of seconds 3 or 4, not a full minute.  
  
  
 Rose Combs
 roseco...@q.com mailto:roseco...@q.com
 A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
 memory!
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brent Harding
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
 from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to 
 intentionally delay it 5 minutes?
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Keith B. mailto:kb5...@gmail.com
 To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
 action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
 enough to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync 
 it with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my 
 family can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.
 
 On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 
 Hi, 
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile 
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this 
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio. 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-13 Thread Alan Paganelli
OK, does that  mean you get to hear the audio from the TV which I wouldn't be 
interested in or is it the audio from the radio station that carries the game.  
For example, the audio comming from WBBM Radio news radio 78 out of Chicago?  
I'm not crazy about having to pay a hundred bucks to listen to Bears games when 
it only cost me 40 bucks last season but as they say, poopoo occurs.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The no commercials thing only applies to the TV portion, where you can watch 
 the games on-demand. I think people are getting that confused.
 GamePass allows you to either listen to live audio feeds of every game 
 including playoffs and the Super Bowl, or you can watch them on-demand with 
 the TV broadcasts with no commercials, and DVR functionality.
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 Wow! I thought that normally, the commercials are replaced with boring 
 PSA's or silence. I'm not sure how it will be for regular games that aren't 
 the Superbowl. There's supposedly all kinds of rights issues with the 
 commercials, as I'm sure the station would like nothing more than to have 
 the commercials seen further by having them online.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:35 PM
 Subject: RE: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching a 
 baseball game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing the plays, 
 we had Cox cable, not sure what she had but it was not COX at that time.  
 She could hear the bat hit through our phone before she could see the play, 
 I think there was about a minute delay between the two on the same station, 
 same game.  They were laughing about it because Tom would make comments 
 before she could see the action.  She was not well, and they often visited 
 during sporting events they both enjoyed but the delay was usually a matter 
 of seconds 3 or 4, not a full minute.  
  
  
 Rose Combs
 roseco...@q.com
 A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
 memory!
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Brent Harding
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
 from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to 
 intentionally delay it 5 minutes?
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Keith B.
 To: VIPhone
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
 action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
 enough to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it 
 with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my 
 family can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.
 
 On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 
 Hi, 
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version 
 of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm 
 not finding a way to start the game audio. 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-13 Thread Daniel Miller
The games you can watch on-demand are the TV broadcasts, not the radio 
broadcasts for audio.
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The NFL has more money than any other professional sport, and they’re audio 
 is horrible. They should learn from MLB, they know how to do it!
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 OK, does that  mean you get to hear the audio from the TV which I wouldn't 
 be interested in or is it the audio from the radio station that carries the 
 game.  For example, the audio comming from WBBM Radio news radio 78 out of 
 Chicago?  I'm not crazy about having to pay a hundred bucks to listen to 
 Bears games when it only cost me 40 bucks last season but as they say, 
 poopoo occurs.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com 
 mailto:miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The no commercials thing only applies to the TV portion, where you can 
 watch the games on-demand. I think people are getting that confused.
 GamePass allows you to either listen to live audio feeds of every game 
 including playoffs and the Super Bowl, or you can watch them on-demand with 
 the TV broadcasts with no commercials, and DVR functionality.
 
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net 
 mailto:br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 Wow! I thought that normally, the commercials are replaced with boring 
 PSA's or silence. I'm not sure how it will be for regular games that 
 aren't the Superbowl. There's supposedly all kinds of rights issues with 
 the commercials, as I'm sure the station would like nothing more than to 
 have the commercials seen further by having them online.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:35 PM
 Subject: RE: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching a 
 baseball game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing the 
 plays, we had Cox cable, not sure what she had but it was not COX at that 
 time.  She could hear the bat hit through our phone before she could see 
 the play, I think there was about a minute delay between the two on the 
 same station, same game.  They were laughing about it because Tom would 
 make comments before she could see the action.  She was not well, and 
 they often visited during sporting events they both enjoyed but the delay 
 was usually a matter of seconds 3 or 4, not a full minute.  
  
  
 Rose Combs
 roseco...@q.com mailto:roseco...@q.com
 A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
 memory!
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brent Harding
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 
 seconds from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to 
 intentionally delay it 5 minutes?
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Keith B. mailto:kb5...@gmail.com
 To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
 action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
 enough to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync 
 it with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my 
 family can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.
 
 On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 
 Hi, 
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile 
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this 
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio. 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Andy Baracco
Hopefully the alternatives that worked in the past will work this year. I 
guess what I have always heard is true. We live in a sighted world.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

My wife is telling me go ahead and buy the hundred dollar package if it gets 
you the audio content.  I'm not going to do it.  I didn't have a problem 
with the audiopass at 40 bucks.  But when you insist on getting a more 
expensive package because most people want the video and the audio 
descriptions are at best an after thought, no way.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:

I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Paganelli

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud 
cheer and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 
yard line.  That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about 
how the team lines up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is 
useless.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, 
then $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:


Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any 
team as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or 
from the visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I 
listened to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the 
home or away teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting 
with preseason through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was 
bad.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it 
said:


Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super
Bowl 50

Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
get the playoff games.



On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon 
to Apple TV.

Richard




On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
chalt...@gmail.com wrote:


If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio.
https://www.nfl.com/gamepass


On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was
told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a
subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive
my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any
link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if
anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription
in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this
little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game 
audio.


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can watch the game without commercials when you pull up a game that 
has already been played in the past. With live games, you'd obviously 
hear the commercials or some space filling music or announcements.


The issue with streaming the commercials is that the contracts and pay 
for the people in the commercials assumed it was for a local radio 
station and not being heard nationally.


On 08/12/2015 02:41 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

Wow! I thought that normally, the commercials are replaced with boring
PSA's or silence. I'm not sure how it will be for regular games that
aren't the Superbowl. There's supposedly all kinds of rights issues with
the commercials, as I'm sure the station would like nothing more than to
have the commercials seen further by having them online.

- Original Message -
*From:* Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:35 PM
*Subject:* RE: Audio in NFL Mobile

Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching
a baseball game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing
the plays, we had Cox cable, not sure what she had but it was not
COX at that time.  She could hear the bat hit through our phone
before she could see the play, I think there was about a minute
delay between the two on the same station, same game.  They were
laughing about it because Tom would make comments before she could
see the action.  She was not well, and they often visited during
sporting events they both enjoyed but the delay was usually a matter
of seconds 3 or 4, not a full minute.

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com mailto:roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times
the memory!

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Brent Harding
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30
seconds from the satellites and back, but did they create some
policy to intentionally delay it 5 minutes?

- Original Message -

*From:*Keith B. mailto:kb5...@gmail.com

*To:*VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

*Sent:*Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM

*Subject:*Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from
the live action. I like to watch football with family members,
and, if I'm lucky enough to find a broadcast on a station in
OOTunes, I can actually sync it with the TV and be able to
appreciate what is going on as much as my family can. So I save
Sirius as a last resort.

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if
anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription
in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this
little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the
game audio.

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I'm not sure what you mean by the audio descriptions are an after thought.

Audio pass streamed the radio broadcasts heard in the local markets. I 
don't think this is an after thought. They're the same radio broadcasts 
anyone in the local market would hear, whether they're blind or sighted.


If you mean including radio broadcasts in the same package as the video 
broadcasts, instead of splitting them out separately, then although I'd 
like to see this happen myself, I suspect it wasn't so much an 
afterthought as instead a way of consolidating the delivery mechanism 
into one implementation. I personally plan on letting the NFL know that 
I'd rather pay for an audio only option, like we had with AudioPass, and 
I may be passing on the video package. Maybe if the NFL gets enough such 
feedback, they'll include an audio only option in the streaming package.


If you're saying that the audio you get during a game is an afterthought 
then I'd disagree. They broadcasted an NFL game with no audio a few 
years ago, and it was a total flop. People, including sighted people, 
like the real time analysis of the game that you get during a TV 
broadcast. For me, I don't find the radio announcers so good or the TV 
announcers so bad that listening to a game on TV is a waste of my time 
as compared to a radio broadcast. I can usually follow a game just fine 
on TV, and I'll often listen to a nationally televised game of my 
favorite team when it's shown in my area over the homers on the radio 
broadcast.


On 08/12/2015 11:37 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

My wife is telling me go ahead and buy the hundred dollar package if it gets 
you the audio content.  I'm not going to do it.  I didn't have a problem with 
the audiopass at 40 bucks.  But when you insist on getting a more expensive 
package because most people want the video and the audio descriptions are at 
best an after thought, no way.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:

I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud cheer 
and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard line.  
That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the team lines 
up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then $99 
is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.

On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team as 
well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to the 
bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away teams.  I had 
the full package which let me listen starting with preseason through the super 
bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:

Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super
Bowl 50

Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get the 
playoff games.


On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after platforms 
with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include regular season live 
broadcasts, or the super bowl.
It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to Apple 
TV.
Richard





On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio.
https://www.nfl.com/gamepass


On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was
told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a
subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive
my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any
link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if
anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription
in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this
little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.


--
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Alan Paganelli
My wife is telling me go ahead and buy the hundred dollar package if it gets 
you the audio content.  I'm not going to do it.  I didn't have a problem with 
the audiopass at 40 bucks.  But when you insist on getting a more expensive 
package because most people want the video and the audio descriptions are at 
best an after thought, no way.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud cheer 
 and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard line.  
 That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the team 
 lines up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then 
 $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team 
 as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
 visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to 
 the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away 
 teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason 
 through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
 Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super 
 Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was 
 told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a 
 subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive 
 my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any 
 link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if 
 anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription 
 in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this 
 little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game 
 audio.
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Daniel Miller
I personally like the TV portion, because you can watch the games again, 
whenever you want, with no commercials, plus I get to relive the magical 2009 
Saints run to the championship.

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 My wife is telling me go ahead and buy the hundred dollar package if it gets 
 you the audio content.  I'm not going to do it.  I didn't have a problem with 
 the audiopass at 40 bucks.  But when you insist on getting a more expensive 
 package because most people want the video and the audio descriptions are at 
 best an after thought, no way.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud 
 cheer and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard 
 line.  That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the 
 team lines up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then 
 $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team 
 as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from 
 the visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened 
 to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away 
 teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason 
 through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
 Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super 
 Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
 get the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was 
 told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a 
 subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive 
 my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any 
 link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if 
 anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription 
 in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this 
 little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game 
 audio.
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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RE: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Rose Combs
Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching a baseball 
game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing the plays, we had Cox 
cable, not sure what she had but it was not COX at that time.  She could hear 
the bat hit through our phone before she could see the play, I think there was 
about a minute delay between the two on the same station, same game.  They were 
laughing about it because Tom would make comments before she could see the 
action.  She was not well, and they often visited during sporting events they 
both enjoyed but the delay was usually a matter of seconds 3 or 4, not a full 
minute.  

 

 

Rose Combs

 mailto:roseco...@q.com roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

 

I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds from 
the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to intentionally delay 
it 5 minutes?

 

- Original Message - 

From: Keith B. mailto:kb5...@gmail.com  

To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

 

The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky enough 
to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it with the TV 
and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family can. So I save 
Sirius as a last resort.

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 

Hi, 

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has figured 
out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version of the NFL 
app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way 
to start the game audio. 

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Brent Harding
Wow! I thought that normally, the commercials are replaced with boring PSA's or 
silence. I'm not sure how it will be for regular games that aren't the 
Superbowl. There's supposedly all kinds of rights issues with the commercials, 
as I'm sure the station would like nothing more than to have the commercials 
seen further by having them online.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:35 PM
  Subject: RE: Audio in NFL Mobile


  Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching a 
baseball game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing the plays, we 
had Cox cable, not sure what she had but it was not COX at that time.  She 
could hear the bat hit through our phone before she could see the play, I think 
there was about a minute delay between the two on the same station, same game.  
They were laughing about it because Tom would make comments before she could 
see the action.  She was not well, and they often visited during sporting 
events they both enjoyed but the delay was usually a matter of seconds 3 or 4, 
not a full minute.  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

  A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

   

  I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to intentionally 
delay it 5 minutes?

   

- Original Message - 

From: Keith B. 

To: VIPhone 

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

 

The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky enough 
to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it with the TV 
and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family can. So I save 
Sirius as a last resort.

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 

Hi, 

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version of 
the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not 
finding a way to start the game audio. 

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-12 Thread Daniel Miller
The no commercials thing only applies to the TV portion, where you can watch 
the games on-demand. I think people are getting that confused.
GamePass allows you to either listen to live audio feeds of every game 
including playoffs and the Super Bowl, or you can watch them on-demand with the 
TV broadcasts with no commercials, and DVR functionality.

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 Wow! I thought that normally, the commercials are replaced with boring PSA's 
 or silence. I'm not sure how it will be for regular games that aren't the 
 Superbowl. There's supposedly all kinds of rights issues with the 
 commercials, as I'm sure the station would like nothing more than to have the 
 commercials seen further by having them online.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:35 PM
 Subject: RE: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Back several years ago my late husband and his mother were watching a 
 baseball game on opposite sides of town, on the phone discussing the plays, 
 we had Cox cable, not sure what she had but it was not COX at that time.  
 She could hear the bat hit through our phone before she could see the play, 
 I think there was about a minute delay between the two on the same station, 
 same game.  They were laughing about it because Tom would make comments 
 before she could see the action.  She was not well, and they often visited 
 during sporting events they both enjoyed but the delay was usually a matter 
 of seconds 3 or 4, not a full minute.  
  
  
 Rose Combs
 roseco...@q.com mailto:roseco...@q.com
 A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
 memory!
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brent Harding
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
 from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to 
 intentionally delay it 5 minutes?
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Keith B. mailto:kb5...@gmail.com
 To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
  
 The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
 action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
 enough to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it 
 with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family 
 can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.
 
 On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 
 Hi, 
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version 
 of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not 
 finding a way to start the game audio. 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Brent Harding
I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds from 
the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to intentionally delay 
it 5 minutes?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith B. 
  To: VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


  The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky enough 
to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it with the TV 
and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family can. So I save 
Sirius as a last resort.

  On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
Hi, 

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version of 
the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not 
finding a way to start the game audio. 


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Smart


I feel the same about most other sports on TV - Hockey, Basketball,
etc. I'll always be a big fan of baseball on the radio.
At 03:12 PM 8/10/2015, you wrote:
Listening to football on the TV
is a waste of time. You hear the croud cheer and the announcer says
would you look at that! He's up to the 27 yard line. That was
one heck of a run. You don't hear thing one about how the team
lines up etc. For me, watching NFL football on TV is
useless.

Alan
Sent from my iPad Air
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller
miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV
broadcasts, then $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass. I could
listen to any team as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the
home team or from the visitors broadcast. Of course when my bears
werre playing, I listened to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to
listen to the home or away teams. I had the full package which let
me listen starting with preseason through the super bowl and I didn't
think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section
where it said:
 
 Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs
and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional
upgrade to get the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the
section after platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does
not include regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it
is coming soon to Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a
section on audio.

https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped
audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I
have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't
receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any
link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm
curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass
subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this
little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the
game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Keith B.
The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
enough to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it 
with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family 
can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:

 Hi, 

 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version 
 of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not 
 finding a way to start the game audio. 


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Les Kriegler
But with radium, that is not an issue. In addition, the serious XM app has been 
improved. At least that's what they claim. So I wonder if the streaming time is 
improved as well.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 11, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have wondered about that, too. I discontinued Sirius two nears ago, so it 
 may be better now. But, for my individual situation, I couldn't handle the 
 5-minute delay. Just another example of the need for those of us who are 
 blind or visually impaired to have valid choices, right? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
 from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to 
 intentionally delay it 5 minutes?
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Keith B.
 To: VIPhone
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
 action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
 enough to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it 
 with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family 
 can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.
 
 On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version 
 of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not 
 finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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RE: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Nicki keck
I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud cheer 
and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard line.  
That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the team lines 
up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then 
 $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team 
 as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
 visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to 
 the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away teams. 
  I had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason through 
 the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
  Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super 
 Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was 
 told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a 
 subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive 
 my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any 
 link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if 
 anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription 
 in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this 
 little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Steve
When I tried the SiriusXm app a few days ago, the streaming time might have 
improved slightly.  It did start playing almost instantly after I selected a 
channel, but it was about ninety seconds or more behind the on-air music.

Radium does seem to be a bit more on-time, and it seems to stay on without 
doing a tap to keep listening thing as often which is nice when I'm 
footballing.

Steve
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From: Les Kriegler 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


But with radium, that is not an issue. In addition, the serious XM app has been 
improved. At least that's what they claim. So I wonder if the streaming time is 
improved as well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 11, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:


  I have wondered about that, too. I discontinued Sirius two nears ago, so it 
may be better now. But, for my individual situation, I couldn't handle the 
5-minute delay. Just another example of the need for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired to have valid choices, right? 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:


I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to intentionally 
delay it 5 minutes?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith B. 
  To: VIPhone 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


  The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky enough 
to find a broadcast on a station in OOTunes, I can actually sync it with the TV 
and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family can. So I save 
Sirius as a last resort.

  On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:48:01 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: 
Hi, 

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has 
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version of 
the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not 
finding a way to start the game audio. 


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-11 Thread Keith Bundy
I have wondered about that, too. I discontinued Sirius two nears ago, so it may 
be better now. But, for my individual situation, I couldn't handle the 5-minute 
delay. Just another example of the need for those of us who are blind or 
visually impaired to have valid choices, right? 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I wonder why they have such a large delay? I could see it being 30 seconds 
 from the satellites and back, but did they create some policy to 
 intentionally delay it 5 minutes?
  
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 To: VIPhone
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 The only issue I have with Sirius is the five-minute delay from the live 
 action. I like to watch football with family members, and, if I'm lucky 
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 with the TV and be able to appreciate what is going on as much as my family 
 can. So I save Sirius as a last resort.
 
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 Hi, 
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Mary Otten
I wonder about using Radium with serious XM for football. Also what about June 
in? I used to use that all football radio, but so many stations didn't work or 
only works sporadically.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 There is an app All Football Radio Pro that I have used to listen to the 
 49ers games. I believe I paid $3.99 for it, and you get what you pay for. The 
 audio is sometimes sucky, and sometimes the feed goes away, but it is usable. 
 If the NFL really gave up on making money by streaming, perhaps they won't 
 stop the teams from doing so on their own. Also, you might see CBS NBC and 
 Fox offering that service. On the PC, there is a site called 
 www.freefootballradio.com that streams many games.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brent Harding
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Wow! So we can't stream games any more?
 
 - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
 by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
 and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
 Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
 guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
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 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

GamePass is available through the NFL mobile app, or it’s supposed to be coming 
soon. The site says, “Coming soon to smartphones, tablets, and connected tv 
devices.”
I’m subscribed to gamePass, and a word of warning, if anyone wants to 
subscribe, be aware that the service does *not* work with Safari on OS X at 
this time. I’m not sure if it’s something they’re working on, but I was to use 
Windows to access it yesterday.

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include regular 
 season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I am surprised as I read this thread that thus far no one has mentioned 
that Sirius carries both home and away feeds of all NFL games.  I use 
Radium; and, for example, I dictate Raders which brings me to the home 
feed of the currently playing Raders game.


I got what I consider a good deal on Sirius, something like $54.00 U.S. 
for both the over the air and the internet channels for six months.


Don Roberts


On 8/9/2015 9:44 PM, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you 
can stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you 
have to make certain to download the correct app., because there is 
also one from the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told 
this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for 
years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile 
version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, 
I'm not

finding a way to start the game audio.



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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Miller
I think it’s dumb they merged audio pass into game pass, but I suppose if you 
care about the NFL on your apple TV like I do, then it’s a win win. I don’t 
like how the NFL app kept crashing last night when I tapped on a team name 
during the game.

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Larry McCreary
when will the audio be available on apple tv?
On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it’s dumb they merged audio pass into game pass, but I suppose if you 
 care about the NFL on your apple TV like I do, then it’s a win win. I don’t 
 like how the NFL app kept crashing last night when I tapped on a team name 
 during the game.
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
   Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
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 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:

Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super 
Bowl 50


Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
get the playoff games.


On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after platforms 
with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include regular season live 
broadcasts, or the super bowl.
It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to Apple 
TV.
Richard





On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
https://www.nfl.com/gamepass


On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Fred Olver
A possible alternative to NFL mobile is also http://www.wyziwig.tv  it 
streams all NFL games in video with audio. It's overseas but I used it last 
year and it works great. They stream the network broadcasts.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I am surprised as I read this thread that thus far no one has mentioned
that Sirius carries both home and away feeds of all NFL games.  I use
Radium; and, for example, I dictate Raders which brings me to the home
feed of the currently playing Raders game.

I got what I consider a good deal on Sirius, something like $54.00 U.S.
for both the over the air and the internet channels for six months.

Don Roberts


On 8/9/2015 9:44 PM, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you can 
stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you have to 
make certain to download the correct app., because there is also one from 
the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told 
this

by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm 
not

finding a way to start the game audio.



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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Miller
I’m not sure if the audio portion is coming to the apple TV or not, it might be 
just the on-demand video.

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 when will the audio be available on apple tv?
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think it’s dumb they merged audio pass into game pass, but I suppose if 
 you care about the NFL on your apple TV like I do, then it’s a win win. I 
 don’t like how the NFL app kept crashing last night when I tapped on a team 
 name during the game.
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
  Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
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2015-08-10 Thread Daniel Miller
No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then $99 
is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team as 
 well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
 visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to the 
 bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away teams.  I 
 had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason through the 
 super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
   Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Alan Paganelli
Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud cheer 
and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard line.  
That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the team lines 
up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then 
 $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team 
 as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
 visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to 
 the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away teams. 
  I had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason through 
 the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
  Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Arnold Schmidt
It is true that I don't get nearly the detail from the tv audio that I would 
from the radio broadcast, but most of the time,  if that is all I have, I 
can follow football and baseball, well enough to make it worth my time, . 
Basketball from tv audio?  Now, that is useless to me.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud 
cheer and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard 
line.  That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the 
team lines up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, 
then $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:


Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any 
team as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or 
from the visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I 
listened to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home 
or away teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting with 
preseason through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:

 Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 
50


Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
get the playoff games.



On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon 
to Apple TV.

Richard




On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
chalt...@gmail.com wrote:


If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
https://www.nfl.com/gamepass



On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was 
told
this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber 
for

years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on 
the

NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone 
has

figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Thanks for this.  I remember, a few years ago, when NFL Audio Pass had some 
accessibility issues, I considered getting Sirius or XM for football. 
Luckily, things got straightened out that year.  I didn't know Sirius 
carried the nfl in their online subscription.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I am surprised as I read this thread that thus far no one has mentioned
that Sirius carries both home and away feeds of all NFL games.  I use
Radium; and, for example, I dictate Raders which brings me to the home
feed of the currently playing Raders game.

I got what I consider a good deal on Sirius, something like $54.00 U.S.
for both the over the air and the internet channels for six months.

Don Roberts


On 8/9/2015 9:44 PM, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you can 
stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you have to 
make certain to download the correct app., because there is also one from 
the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told 
this

by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm 
not

finding a way to start the game audio.



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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Brent Harding
I would think that the Game Pass would cost at least as much as the 
streaming online package for Sunday Ticket that DirecTV would offer if you 
are unable to have a dish at your place. I don't know why the NFL would 
undercut their partner and give more. The audio is something you wouldn't 
get on the ticket.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Oh, Audio Pass is not gone.  It has been rolled into what they are calling
game pass.  I called the NFL technical support line on Friday night, when I
couldn't get jaws or NVDA to click the submit buttons to log me into my old
audio pass subscription section or the forgot password section, and was told
they were working on it every day.  It is not fixed yet.  I asked about
audio pass, and was told the game pass subscription is a  hundred dollars.
I won't pay that, when I mainly would be   paying for video that I don't
want.  I asked about NFL Mobile, and apparently, it is a work in progress,
too. I think it will be part of this game pass.

Arnold Schmidt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


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From: Kelly Ford

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not
finding a way to start the game audio.

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Brent Harding
How do you get that deal? I'm very close to getting rid of it because it's 
upwards of $23 per month now when you're said and done with fees and taxes.


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Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I am surprised as I read this thread that thus far no one has mentioned
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Radium; and, for example, I dictate Raders which brings me to the home
feed of the currently playing Raders game.

I got what I consider a good deal on Sirius, something like $54.00 U.S.
for both the over the air and the internet channels for six months.

Don Roberts


On 8/9/2015 9:44 PM, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you can 
stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you have to 
make certain to download the correct app., because there is also one from 
the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told 
this

by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm 
not

finding a way to start the game audio.



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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Steve
Yes Radium works for football on SiriusXm as long as you have the proper 
SiriusXm package with on-line streaming.

The SiriusXm app also works pretty well now and you can save your favorite NFL 
channels.  
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I wonder about using Radium with serious XM for football. Also what about June 
in? I used to use that all football radio, but so many stations didn't work or 
only works sporadically.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 There is an app All Football Radio Pro that I have used to listen to the 
 49ers games. I believe I paid $3.99 for it, and you get what you pay for. The 
 audio is sometimes sucky, and sometimes the feed goes away, but it is usable. 
 If the NFL really gave up on making money by streaming, perhaps they won't 
 stop the teams from doing so on their own. Also, you might see CBS NBC and 
 Fox offering that service. On the PC, there is a site called 
 www.freefootballradio.com that streams many games.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brent Harding
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Wow! So we can't stream games any more?
 
 - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
 by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
 and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
 Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
 guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
 of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not
 finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Alan Paganelli
Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team as 
well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to the 
bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away teams.  I had 
the full package which let me listen starting with preseason through the super 
bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Corey Cook
I don't think DirecTV is an exclusive partner any longer

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I would think that the Game Pass would cost at least as much as the streaming 
 online package for Sunday Ticket that DirecTV would offer if you are unable 
 to have a dish at your place. I don't know why the NFL would undercut their 
 partner and give more. The audio is something you wouldn't get on the ticket.
 
 - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:37 AM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 
 Oh, Audio Pass is not gone.  It has been rolled into what they are calling
 game pass.  I called the NFL technical support line on Friday night, when I
 couldn't get jaws or NVDA to click the submit buttons to log me into my old
 audio pass subscription section or the forgot password section, and was told
 they were working on it every day.  It is not fixed yet.  I asked about
 audio pass, and was told the game pass subscription is a  hundred dollars.
 I won't pay that, when I mainly would be   paying for video that I don't
 want.  I asked about NFL Mobile, and apparently, it is a work in progress,
 too. I think it will be part of this game pass.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
 by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
 and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
 Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
 guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
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 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Andy Baracco
It seems that they have adopted the NBA model where you have to buy the 
whole package even if you just want the audio.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then 
$99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:


Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team 
as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from 
the visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened 
to the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away 
teams.  I had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason 
through the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:

  Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super Bowl 
50


Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to 
get the playoff games.



On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
Apple TV.

Richard




On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
https://www.nfl.com/gamepass



On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber 
for

years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on 
the

NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Brent, I make no claims as a negotiator.  I had canceled my subscription 
for almost three years.  They meaning Sirius-XM sent me a we want you 
back letter offering me six months worth of service for $50 including 
both open air and internet.  So I took it and call them up just prior to 
expiration and tell them I want to continue but only at the same price, 
take it or leave it.  Thus far, they take it.  My luck may run out, but 
I hope not.  I should mention that they have tacked on four or five 
dollars worth of music royalty fees, but it still is far better than the 
retail price.


Don Roberts


On 8/10/2015 4:59 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
How do you get that deal? I'm very close to getting rid of it because 
it's upwards of $23 per month now when you're said and done with fees 
and taxes.


- Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts 
donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I am surprised as I read this thread that thus far no one has mentioned
that Sirius carries both home and away feeds of all NFL games.  I use
Radium; and, for example, I dictate Raders which brings me to the home
feed of the currently playing Raders game.

I got what I consider a good deal on Sirius, something like $54.00 U.S.
for both the over the air and the internet channels for six months.

Don Roberts


On 8/9/2015 9:44 PM, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you 
can stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you 
have to make certain to download the correct app., because there is 
also one from the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was 
told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for 
years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile 
version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, 
I'm not

finding a way to start the game audio.





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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Brent Harding
I think there was some deal to let others bid to carry it. As I understand 
it, DirecTV's streaming only service would be comparable to Gamepass minus 
the radio feeds.


- Original Message - 
From: Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I don't think DirecTV is an exclusive partner any longer

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

I would think that the Game Pass would cost at least as much as the 
streaming online package for Sunday Ticket that DirecTV would offer if you 
are unable to have a dish at your place. I don't know why the NFL would 
undercut their partner and give more. The audio is something you wouldn't 
get on the ticket.


- Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt 
arno...@mindspring.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Oh, Audio Pass is not gone.  It has been rolled into what they are calling
game pass.  I called the NFL technical support line on Friday night, when 
I
couldn't get jaws or NVDA to click the submit buttons to log me into my 
old
audio pass subscription section or the forgot password section, and was 
told

they were working on it every day.  It is not fixed yet.  I asked about
audio pass, and was told the game pass subscription is a  hundred dollars.
I won't pay that, when I mainly would be   paying for video that I don't
want.  I asked about NFL Mobile, and apparently, it is a work in progress,
too. I think it will be part of this game pass.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told 
this

by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Brent Harding
I know what you mean. I get those offers on occasion regarding the old XM I 
canceled near the time they merged. I liked specific personalities that were 
on XM, but they had quite awhile before the merger. One of them was on the 
80's channel they had back then.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Brent, I make no claims as a negotiator.  I had canceled my subscription
for almost three years.  They meaning Sirius-XM sent me a we want you
back letter offering me six months worth of service for $50 including
both open air and internet.  So I took it and call them up just prior to
expiration and tell them I want to continue but only at the same price,
take it or leave it.  Thus far, they take it.  My luck may run out, but
I hope not.  I should mention that they have tacked on four or five
dollars worth of music royalty fees, but it still is far better than the
retail price.

Don Roberts


On 8/10/2015 4:59 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
How do you get that deal? I'm very close to getting rid of it because it's 
upwards of $23 per month now when you're said and done with fees and 
taxes.


- Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts 
donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


I am surprised as I read this thread that thus far no one has mentioned
that Sirius carries both home and away feeds of all NFL games.  I use
Radium; and, for example, I dictate Raders which brings me to the home
feed of the currently playing Raders game.

I got what I consider a good deal on Sirius, something like $54.00 U.S.
for both the over the air and the internet channels for six months.

Don Roberts


On 8/9/2015 9:44 PM, Terry-Ann Saurmann wrote:
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you can 
stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you have to 
make certain to download the correct app., because there is also one from 
the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told 
this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for 
years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal 
notice.

Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile 
version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm 
not

finding a way to start the game audio.





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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Andy Baracco
At least the NBA plan has an a la carte option where you can choose 1 to 5 
teams to follow for a lower rate.

Andy

From: Steve 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
Yes Radium works for football on SiriusXm as long as you have the proper 
SiriusXm package with on-line streaming.

The SiriusXm app also works pretty well now and you can save your favorite NFL 
channels.  
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

I wonder about using Radium with serious XM for football. Also what about June 
in? I used to use that all football radio, but so many stations didn't work or 
only works sporadically.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 There is an app All Football Radio Pro that I have used to listen to the 
 49ers games. I believe I paid $3.99 for it, and you get what you pay for. The 
 audio is sometimes sucky, and sometimes the feed goes away, but it is usable. 
 If the NFL really gave up on making money by streaming, perhaps they won't 
 stop the teams from doing so on their own. Also, you might see CBS NBC and 
 Fox offering that service. On the PC, there is a site called 
 www.freefootballradio.com that streams many games.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brent Harding
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Wow! So we can't stream games any more?
 
 - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
 by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
 and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
 Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
 guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
 of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not
 finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
https://www.nfl.com/gamepass


On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.



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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Oh, Audio Pass is not gone.  It has been rolled into what they are calling 
game pass.  I called the NFL technical support line on Friday night, when I 
couldn't get jaws or NVDA to click the submit buttons to log me into my old 
audio pass subscription section or the forgot password section, and was told 
they were working on it every day.  It is not fixed yet.  I asked about 
audio pass, and was told the game pass subscription is a  hundred dollars. 
I won't pay that, when I mainly would be   paying for video that I don't 
want.  I asked about NFL Mobile, and apparently, it is a work in progress, 
too. I think it will be part of this game pass.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Ford

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not
finding a way to start the game audio.

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-10 Thread Richard Turner
If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after platforms 
with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include regular season live 
broadcasts, or the super bowl.
It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to Apple 
TV.
Richard




 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told
 this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for
 years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual
 renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the
 NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
 figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile
 version of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this
 afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-09 Thread Andy Baracco
There is an app All Football Radio Pro that I have used to listen to the 
49ers games. I believe I paid $3.99 for it, and you get what you pay for. 
The audio is sometimes sucky, and sometimes the feed goes away, but it is 
usable. If the NFL really gave up on making money by streaming, perhaps they 
won't stop the teams from doing so on their own. Also, you might see CBS NBC 
and Fox offering that service. On the PC, there is a site called 
www.freefootballradio.com that streams many games.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Brent Harding

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Ford

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-09 Thread Brent Harding
It seems like the Packers don't stream the home feed. One of the affiliates 
in Wisconsin might be accidentally doing it or doesn't know how to block it 
out, but I've rarely found one. I heard it was allowed for desktop streaming 
but not mobile, so if we could trick it or get the direct url and feed 
Tunein, we could do it.


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


There is an app All Football Radio Pro that I have used to listen to the
49ers games. I believe I paid $3.99 for it, and you get what you pay for.
The audio is sometimes sucky, and sometimes the feed goes away, but it is
usable. If the NFL really gave up on making money by streaming, perhaps they
won't stop the teams from doing so on their own. Also, you might see CBS NBC
and Fox offering that service. On the PC, there is a site called
www.freefootballradio.com that streams many games.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Brent Harding

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile


It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Ford

Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile

Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-09 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann
Assuming that it will again be available this season, I believe you can 
stream games for free with an App called Pro Radio.  However, you have to 
make certain to download the correct app., because there is also one from 
the UK that goes by the same name.  Terry


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Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

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It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


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Hi,

With another football season about to start, I'm curious if anyone has
figured out how to play your audio pass subscription in the mobile version
of the NFL app? Playing around with this little bit this afternoon, I'm not
finding a way to start the game audio.

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-09 Thread Wayne Merritt
I tried too an it didn't work. Each time I double tapped on either the
Steelers or Vikings team to listen to the Hall of Fame game, the app
crashed and I was thrown back to my home screen. I do like the
matchups tab at the bottom of the app screen, but hope they iron out
the issues with listening to games.

Wayne

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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-09 Thread Andy Baracco
It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this 
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years, 
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice. 
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i 
guess it's gone.


Andy


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Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

2015-08-09 Thread Brent Harding

Wow! So we can't stream games any more?

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It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was told this
by several of my football fan friends. I have been a subscriber for years,
and was curious as to why I didn't receive my normal annual renewal notice.
Also, there is no longer any link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i
guess it's gone.

Andy


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Hi,

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