RE: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Turner
Hate to state the obvious, but you do know the bill reader uses the camera
on the back, right, not the front facing camera?


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Subject: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

Hello,

I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being unable to
read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've never, ever had a
bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a table, hold it in front
of the camera, move it around, expose different parts of the currency, and
so on.

The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and often
gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually put, well,
bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.

You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do you? We
don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a subtle scratch
on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why the Looktel apps would
be behaving so oddly?

Best,

Grant

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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Esther and everyone -- Esther, you have an amazing memory! Yep, I
sure do have an iPhone 4S, and have posted about this before.

Everything should be pretty much golden. I'm not using a case; I've
tried all manner of distances and angles and have even had a sighted
person do the same; and other pictures seem to take fine.

My iPhone has been restored in iTunes a few times since I initially
tried the Looktel apps, but I'll remove them and reinstall them later
today and will post if there are any better results - I can't imagine
there will be, though. Basically, it's totally bizarre.

Best,

Grant

On 6/8/12, Esther  wrote:
> HI Grant and Kimber,
>
> Grant, I know you've posted about this before -- that you were not
> able to get Looktel Money Reader working even with sighted help -- but
> I'm frankly baffled.  As I recall, you now have an iPhone 4S, right?
> I've tried this app out with an iPhone 4 on US, Australian, and
> Canadian dollars, and Euros and pounds, and it has picked up all of
> them.  I don't have the newer Canadian bills to test, but I know that
> other users, including some like Sieghard who had problems using the
> first international update with these bills, use the current version
> successfully.
>
> Apart from having your camera lens blocked by the hole in your case,
> or a dirty lens, the only thing I can think of is having an
> incompletely downloaded app, which you might try deleting and
> downloading again.  You do know, don't you, that some of the older
> iPhone 4 cases that can fit the iPhone 4S may have holes for the
> camera lens that aren't large enough to let all the light through?
> You can still take pictures, it's just that you're not using the full
> area of the camera lens, which will cut down on the amount of light
> and quality of the images. If this is the case, you'll find that the
> app works when your iPhone is taken out of a problematic case.
>
> With the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S, the Looktel money reader app
> should even try to turn on the flash if there is insufficient light,
> but with an iPhone 3GS you need to check the light level before you
> use the app.  I usually check light level first with the Light
> Detector app anyway.
>
> Try holding the bills flat in your left hand with the iPhone on top of
> the stack, and lifting the iPhone directly up about 6 inches from your
> palm.  (If you're left handed, use your right hand for the bills, and
> lift the iPhone with your left hand.)  For a more detailed description
> of instructions, see my archived post on using the Looktel Money
> Reader app in the Mail Archive pages for the mac-access list:
> • Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange
> behaviour with money reader.]
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg07238.html
>
>
> HTH.  Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Jun 8, 7:50 am, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
>> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
>> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
>> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
>> treasury dept.
>>
>> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
>> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>>
>> > I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
>> > unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
>> > never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
>> > table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
>> > different parts of the currency, and so on.
>>
>> > The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
>> > often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
>> > put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>>
>> > You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
>> > you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
>> > subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
>> > the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>>
>> > Best,
>>
>> > Grant
>>
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Mary Otten
The money reader has worked very well for me. I find that I have a tendency to 
hold the phone too close to the money, but if I don't do that, the response is 
quick and accurate.

Mary

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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread fred olver
Is it possible the case is interfering?

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: "Grant Hardy" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me


> Interesting - I wonder why everybody's experiences differ so much?
> There must be some other factor of which we're not aware.
>
> I literally have never had one scrap of money spoken to me by the
> Looktel Money Recognizer - even though I have had sighted assistance
> to make sure that every conceivable angle of the money is shown. As I
> said, I thought maybe it was my camera, but other pictures seem to
> take fine, so who knows.
>
> Best,
>
> Grant
>
> On 6/8/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> That is very interesting because the LookTell apps have worked very well 
>> for
>> me. The INote app was very disappointing.
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
>>> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
>>> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
>>> treasury dept.
>>>
>>> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
>>>
>>> Kimber
>>>
>>> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
>>>> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
>>>> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
>>>> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
>>>> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
>>>> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
>>>> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>>>>
>>>> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
>>>> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
>>>> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
>>>> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Grant
>>>>
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Esther
HI Grant and Kimber,

Grant, I know you've posted about this before -- that you were not
able to get Looktel Money Reader working even with sighted help -- but
I'm frankly baffled.  As I recall, you now have an iPhone 4S, right?
I've tried this app out with an iPhone 4 on US, Australian, and
Canadian dollars, and Euros and pounds, and it has picked up all of
them.  I don't have the newer Canadian bills to test, but I know that
other users, including some like Sieghard who had problems using the
first international update with these bills, use the current version
successfully.

Apart from having your camera lens blocked by the hole in your case,
or a dirty lens, the only thing I can think of is having an
incompletely downloaded app, which you might try deleting and
downloading again.  You do know, don't you, that some of the older
iPhone 4 cases that can fit the iPhone 4S may have holes for the
camera lens that aren't large enough to let all the light through?
You can still take pictures, it's just that you're not using the full
area of the camera lens, which will cut down on the amount of light
and quality of the images. If this is the case, you'll find that the
app works when your iPhone is taken out of a problematic case.

With the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S, the Looktel money reader app
should even try to turn on the flash if there is insufficient light,
but with an iPhone 3GS you need to check the light level before you
use the app.  I usually check light level first with the Light
Detector app anyway.

Try holding the bills flat in your left hand with the iPhone on top of
the stack, and lifting the iPhone directly up about 6 inches from your
palm.  (If you're left handed, use your right hand for the bills, and
lift the iPhone with your left hand.)  For a more detailed description
of instructions, see my archived post on using the Looktel Money
Reader app in the Mail Archive pages for the mac-access list:
• Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange
behaviour with money reader.]
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg07238.html


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 8, 7:50 am, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
> treasury dept.
>
> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
>
> Kimber
>
> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
> > unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
> > never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
> > table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
> > different parts of the currency, and so on.
>
> > The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
> > often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
> > put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>
> > You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
> > you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
> > subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
> > the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>
> > Best,
>
> > Grant
>
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Scott Howell
Grant if you have not dropped the devs a note I would encourage you to do so. 
There must surely be something going on because if taking pictures works well 
then there seems to be little reason the app cannot identify money. Have you 
tried removing and reinstalling the app? I have no idea if this would help, but 
may be worth trying. For me the identification happens very quickly and I have 
used the app with an iPhone 4 and 4S. This is a curious issue.

On Jun 8, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

> Interesting - I wonder why everybody's experiences differ so much?
> There must be some other factor of which we're not aware.
> 
> I literally have never had one scrap of money spoken to me by the
> Looktel Money Recognizer - even though I have had sighted assistance
> to make sure that every conceivable angle of the money is shown. As I
> said, I thought maybe it was my camera, but other pictures seem to
> take fine, so who knows.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
> 
> On 6/8/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> That is very interesting because the LookTell apps have worked very well for
>> me. The INote app was very disappointing.
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
>>> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
>>> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
>>> treasury dept.
>>> 
>>> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
>>> 
>>> Kimber
>>> 
>>> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
 unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
 never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
 table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
 different parts of the currency, and so on.
 
 The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
 often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
 put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
 
 You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
 you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
 subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
 the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
 
 Best,
 
 Grant
 
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Grant,

I just tried Looktel Money Reader, which I hadn't used for a while. It used to 
recognize bills very quickly, but that doesn't appear to be the case any more 
for me. I have an iPHone 4S. What I found works reliably is to hold the camera 
over the bill, about six inches away, and hold it still for 5 or 6 seconds, 
possibly a little longer. I hope this works for you.

Best,
Anna



On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
> different parts of the currency, and so on.
> 
> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
> 
> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Grant Hardy
Interesting - I wonder why everybody's experiences differ so much?
There must be some other factor of which we're not aware.

I literally have never had one scrap of money spoken to me by the
Looktel Money Recognizer - even though I have had sighted assistance
to make sure that every conceivable angle of the money is shown. As I
said, I thought maybe it was my camera, but other pictures seem to
take fine, so who knows.

Best,

Grant

On 6/8/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
> That is very interesting because the LookTell apps have worked very well for
> me. The INote app was very disappointing.
>
> On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>
>> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
>> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
>> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
>> treasury dept.
>>
>> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
>> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
>>> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
>>> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
>>> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
>>> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>>>
>>> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
>>> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
>>> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>>>
>>> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
>>> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
>>> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
>>> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Grant
>>>
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Scott Howell
That is very interesting because the LookTell apps have worked very well for 
me. The INote app was very disappointing.

On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
> treasury dept.
> 
> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
> 
> Kimber
> 
> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
>> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
>> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
>> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
>> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>> 
>> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
>> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
>> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>> 
>> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
>> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
>> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
>> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
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RE: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Rose Combs
I have not really tried the recognizer app, but, I have always had success
with the money app ever since the app was released just after I got my
iPhone 4.  I always get accurate readings on bills.  It is the only thing
using the camera I can seem to get to work unless you count the pictures I
have taken of the clip of my Otterbox or my fingers, LOL.  


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Of Kimber Gardner
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Subject: Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My iPhone
is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've had more
success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the treasury dept.

As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.

Kimber

On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being 
> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've 
> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a 
> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose 
> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>
> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and 
> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually 
> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>
> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do 
> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a 
> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why 
> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>
> Best,
>
> Grant
>
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

2012-06-08 Thread Kimber Gardner
I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
treasury dept.

As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.

Kimber

On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>
> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>
> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>
> Best,
>
> Grant
>
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