Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-11 Thread Woody Anna Dresner 
Hi,

i was able to delete a book this way just a few days ago, and it's worked fine 
for quite a while.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 10, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I am still curious if others can delete the normal way, i.e. double tap the 
> main delete button and then have delete buttons showing up for each book 
> without doing anything else. This is working for me and has been ever since 
> this was initially fixed a few versions ago.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Craig Werner
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 8:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app
>  
> An hour ago, I wrote to Audible documenting the steps needed to delete a book 
> and revd a reply within minutes that my concern would be forwarded to the 
> developers. The response was boiler-plate language, but at least, I got a 
> promise that the feedback would be sent on. Robin and others, if I hear 
> anything more from Audible, I'll be back in touch.
>  
> Craig
>  
> 
> On Friday, October 9, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:robin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I don’t know that it is device or iOS specific as I can report the same as 
>> Craig exactly with an iPhone 6sPlus running iOS 9.0.2 both after having 
>> restored the device to new as well as restoring from cloud backup.
>> While I’m glad it is still possible to delete as I recall when we couldn’t 
>> it’s still maddening to have to go through so many steps to do it.
>> Robin
>>  
>>  
>> From: Craig Werner <>
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:32 PM
>> To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app
>>  
>> Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. 
>>  
>> Sieghard, after reading your thoughtful post, I did lots of testing only to 
>> find that I could not make VoiceOver speak the "delete" buttons on the left 
>> side of the screen unless I took focus away from the device after pressing 
>> the "Delete" button that initiates the deletion process.  After focusing on 
>> the device, I pressed "delete" and swiped right and left and touched the 
>> screen spot by spot, so to speak, all to no avail.  When I focused on 
>> "Cloud," and when I brought focus back from "Cloud" to "Device," the 
>> book-specific "Delete" buttons were spoken by both swiping and touching the 
>> screen.  Perhaps this bug is device- and iOS-specific.  I'm using an iPhone 
>> 5 and iOS 8.3.  I may communicate with Audible again in order to tell them 
>> that no one, sighted or blind, should have to switch focus away from the 
>> device in order to delete a book.  I am glad you are able to delete books in 
>> the prescribed way and only wish the process would work equally well for 
>> everyone.  Again, thanks for your words.
>>  
>> Craig
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Sieghard Weitzel < <>siegh...@live.ca 
>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>> Hi craig and others,
>>>  
>>> This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my 5S 
>>> and I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version 2.6.1 
>>> (377).
>>> The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last 
>>> few versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when 
>>> they first introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed 
>>> it and it has been working fine for me without any work-arounds.
>>> All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of 
>>> Refresh) and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can 
>>> double tap them and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if 
>>> you want to delete, but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by 
>>> the time you get to this point you know you want to delete the book.
>>> I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say 
>>> “Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so 
>>> I know for sure I am on the correct delete button. 
>>> All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the 
>>> left of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book 
>>> title fir

Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-10 Thread Kimber Gardner 
Yes, I am able to delete the normal way, but I have to refresh between
deletions to see the list without the deleted title. But deleting is
working for me on an iPhone 6 running 8.4.

On 10/10/15, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> I am still curious if others can delete the normal way, i.e. double tap the
> main delete button and then have delete buttons showing up for each book
> without doing anything else. This is working for me and has been ever since
> this was initially fixed a few versions ago.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Craig Werner
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 8:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app
>
>
>
> An hour ago, I wrote to Audible documenting the steps needed to delete a
> book and revd a reply within minutes that my concern would be forwarded to
> the developers. The response was boiler-plate language, but at least, I got
> a promise that the feedback would be sent on. Robin and others, if I hear
> anything more from Audible, I'll be back in touch.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com
> <mailto:robin...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I don’t know that it is device or iOS specific as I can report the same as
> Craig exactly with an iPhone 6sPlus running iOS 9.0.2 both after having
> restored the device to new as well as restoring from cloud backup.
>
> While I’m glad it is still possible to delete as I recall when we couldn’t
> it’s still maddening to have to go through so many steps to do it.
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Craig Werner <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','coffeeb...@gmail.com');>
>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:32 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');>
>
> Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app
>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.
>
>
>
> Sieghard, after reading your thoughtful post, I did lots of testing only to
> find that I could not make VoiceOver speak the "delete" buttons on the left
> side of the screen unless I took focus away from the device after pressing
> the "Delete" button that initiates the deletion process.  After focusing on
> the device, I pressed "delete" and swiped right and left and touched the
> screen spot by spot, so to speak, all to no avail.  When I focused on
> "Cloud," and when I brought focus back from "Cloud" to "Device," the
> book-specific "Delete" buttons were spoken by both swiping and touching the
> screen.  Perhaps this bug is device- and iOS-specific.  I'm using an iPhone
> 5 and iOS 8.3.  I may communicate with Audible again in order to tell them
> that no one, sighted or blind, should have to switch focus away from the
> device in order to delete a book.  I am glad you are able to delete books in
> the prescribed way and only wish the process would work equally well for
> everyone.  Again, thanks for your words.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','siegh...@live.ca');> > wrote:
>
> Hi craig and others,
>
>
>
> This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my 5S
> and I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version 2.6.1
> (377).
>
> The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last few
> versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when they
> first introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed it
> and it has been working fine for me without any work-arounds.
>
> All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of Refresh)
> and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can double tap
> them and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if you want to
> delete, but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by the time you
> get to this point you know you want to delete the book.
>
> I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say
> “Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so I
> know for sure I am on the correct delete button.
>
> All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the
> left of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book
> title first, then it reads the “Menu” button and then comes the delete
> button. Interestingly enough, when the main delete button is activated and
> you explore the screen rather than swipe, t

RE: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I am still curious if others can delete the normal way, i.e. double tap the 
main delete button and then have delete buttons showing up for each book 
without doing anything else. This is working for me and has been ever since 
this was initially fixed a few versions ago.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

 

An hour ago, I wrote to Audible documenting the steps needed to delete a book 
and revd a reply within minutes that my concern would be forwarded to the 
developers. The response was boiler-plate language, but at least, I got a 
promise that the feedback would be sent on. Robin and others, if I hear 
anything more from Audible, I'll be back in touch.

 

Craig

 


On Friday, October 9, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com 
<mailto:robin...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I don’t know that it is device or iOS specific as I can report the same as 
Craig exactly with an iPhone 6sPlus running iOS 9.0.2 both after having 
restored the device to new as well as restoring from cloud backup.

While I’m glad it is still possible to delete as I recall when we couldn’t it’s 
still maddening to have to go through so many steps to do it.

Robin

 

 

From: Craig Werner <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','coffeeb...@gmail.com');>  

Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');>  

Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

 

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. 

 

Sieghard, after reading your thoughtful post, I did lots of testing only to 
find that I could not make VoiceOver speak the "delete" buttons on the left 
side of the screen unless I took focus away from the device after pressing the 
"Delete" button that initiates the deletion process.  After focusing on the 
device, I pressed "delete" and swiped right and left and touched the screen 
spot by spot, so to speak, all to no avail.  When I focused on "Cloud," and 
when I brought focus back from "Cloud" to "Device," the book-specific "Delete" 
buttons were spoken by both swiping and touching the screen.  Perhaps this bug 
is device- and iOS-specific.  I'm using an iPhone 5 and iOS 8.3.  I may 
communicate with Audible again in order to tell them that no one, sighted or 
blind, should have to switch focus away from the device in order to delete a 
book.  I am glad you are able to delete books in the prescribed way and only 
wish the process would work equally well for everyone.  Again, thanks for your 
words.

 

Craig


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','siegh...@live.ca');> > wrote:

Hi craig and others,

 

This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my 5S and 
I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version 2.6.1 (377).

The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last few 
versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when they first 
introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed it and it has 
been working fine for me without any work-arounds.

All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of Refresh) 
and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can double tap them 
and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if you want to delete, 
but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by the time you get to this 
point you know you want to delete the book.

I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say 
“Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so I 
know for sure I am on the correct delete button. 

All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the left 
of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book title 
first, then it reads the “Menu” button and then comes the delete button. 
Interestingly enough, when the main delete button is activated and you explore 
the screen rather than swipe, the Menu buttons which are normally down the very 
right edge of the screen, are nowhere to be found, you hear them only when you 
swipe, but they actually don’t do anything when in delete mode.

Maybe some others can check if this works for them, but I also hadn’t heard 
lately that the delete functionality was broken.

I do, however, agree that it would be nice if for Voiceover users delete was 
once again a rotor option as it once was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com'); 
[mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:53 AM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@goo

Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-09 Thread Craig Werner 
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.

Sieghard, after reading your thoughtful post, I did lots of testing only to
find that I could not make VoiceOver speak the "delete" buttons on the left
side of the screen unless I took focus away from the device after pressing
the "Delete" button that initiates the deletion process.  After focusing on
the device, I pressed "delete" and swiped right and left and touched the
screen spot by spot, so to speak, all to no avail.  When I focused on
"Cloud," and when I brought focus back from "Cloud" to "Device," the
book-specific "Delete" buttons were spoken by both swiping and touching the
screen.  Perhaps this bug is device- and iOS-specific.  I'm using an iPhone
5 and iOS 8.3.  I may communicate with Audible again in order to tell them
that no one, sighted or blind, should have to switch focus away from the
device in order to delete a book.  I am glad you are able to delete books
in the prescribed way and only wish the process would work equally well for
everyone.  Again, thanks for your words.

Craig

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

> Hi craig and others,
>
>
>
> This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my 5S
> and I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version 2.6.1
> (377).
>
> The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last
> few versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when
> they first introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed
> it and it has been working fine for me without any work-arounds.
>
> All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of
> Refresh) and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can
> double tap them and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if
> you want to delete, but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by
> the time you get to this point you know you want to delete the book.
>
> I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say
> “Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so
> I know for sure I am on the correct delete button.
>
> All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the
> left of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book
> title first, then it reads the “Menu” button and then comes the delete
> button. Interestingly enough, when the main delete button is activated and
> you explore the screen rather than swipe, the Menu buttons which are
> normally down the very right edge of the screen, are nowhere to be found,
> you hear them only when you swipe, but they actually don’t do anything when
> in delete mode.
>
> Maybe some others can check if this works for them, but I also hadn’t
> heard lately that the delete functionality was broken.
>
> I do, however, agree that it would be nice if for Voiceover users delete
> was once again a rotor option as it once was.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');> [mailto:
> viphone@googlegroups.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');>] *On Behalf Of
> *Craig Werner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:53 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: New to Audible iOS app
>
>
>
> Hello, everyone.
>
>
>
> I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern
> that this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been
> broken for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
> up my library on the phone.
>
> Kimber
>
> On 10/6/15, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello, Chris.
> >
> > The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> > how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> > button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> > "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> > process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact,
> delete
> > the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> > users, b

Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-09 Thread Robin Frost 
Hi,
I don’t know that it is device or iOS specific as I can report the same as 
Craig exactly with an iPhone 6sPlus running iOS 9.0.2 both after having 
restored the device to new as well as restoring from cloud backup.
While I’m glad it is still possible to delete as I recall when we couldn’t it’s 
still maddening to have to go through so many steps to do it.
Robin


From: Craig Werner 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. 

Sieghard, after reading your thoughtful post, I did lots of testing only to 
find that I could not make VoiceOver speak the "delete" buttons on the left 
side of the screen unless I took focus away from the device after pressing the 
"Delete" button that initiates the deletion process.  After focusing on the 
device, I pressed "delete" and swiped right and left and touched the screen 
spot by spot, so to speak, all to no avail.  When I focused on "Cloud," and 
when I brought focus back from "Cloud" to "Device," the book-specific "Delete" 
buttons were spoken by both swiping and touching the screen.  Perhaps this bug 
is device- and iOS-specific.  I'm using an iPhone 5 and iOS 8.3.  I may 
communicate with Audible again in order to tell them that no one, sighted or 
blind, should have to switch focus away from the device in order to delete a 
book.  I am glad you are able to delete books in the prescribed way and only 
wish the process would work equally well for everyone.  Again, thanks for your 
words.

Craig

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

  Hi craig and others,



  This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my 5S 
and I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version 2.6.1 (377).

  The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last few 
versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when they first 
introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed it and it has 
been working fine for me without any work-arounds.

  All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of Refresh) 
and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can double tap them 
and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if you want to delete, 
but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by the time you get to this 
point you know you want to delete the book.

  I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say 
“Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so I 
know for sure I am on the correct delete button. 

  All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the 
left of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book 
title first, then it reads the “Menu” button and then comes the delete button. 
Interestingly enough, when the main delete button is activated and you explore 
the screen rather than swipe, the Menu buttons which are normally down the very 
right edge of the screen, are nowhere to be found, you hear them only when you 
swipe, but they actually don’t do anything when in delete mode.

  Maybe some others can check if this works for them, but I also hadn’t heard 
lately that the delete functionality was broken.

  I do, however, agree that it would be nice if for Voiceover users delete was 
once again a rotor option as it once was.



  Regards,

  Sieghard


  From: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com'); 
[mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
  Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:53 AM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');
  Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app



  Hello, everyone.



  I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern that 
this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been broken 
for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.



  Craig




  On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com');> wrote:

I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
up my library on the phone.

Kimber

On 10/6/15, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the opera

Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-09 Thread Craig Werner 
An hour ago, I wrote to Audible documenting the steps needed to delete a
book and revd a reply within minutes that my concern would be forwarded to
the developers. The response was boiler-plate language, but at least, I got
a promise that the feedback would be sent on. Robin and others, if I hear
anything more from Audible, I'll be back in touch.

Craig


On Friday, October 9, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I don’t know that it is device or iOS specific as I can report the same as
> Craig exactly with an iPhone 6sPlus running iOS 9.0.2 both after having
> restored the device to new as well as restoring from cloud backup.
> While I’m glad it is still possible to delete as I recall when we couldn’t
> it’s still maddening to have to go through so many steps to do it.
> Robin
>
>
> *From:* Craig Werner
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','coffeeb...@gmail.com');>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2015 9:32 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: New to Audible iOS app
>
> Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.
>
> Sieghard, after reading your thoughtful post, I did lots of testing only
> to find that I could not make VoiceOver speak the "delete" buttons on the
> left side of the screen unless I took focus away from the device after
> pressing the "Delete" button that initiates the deletion process.  After
> focusing on the device, I pressed "delete" and swiped right and left and
> touched the screen spot by spot, so to speak, all to no avail.  When I
> focused on "Cloud," and when I brought focus back from "Cloud" to "Device,"
> the book-specific "Delete" buttons were spoken by both swiping and touching
> the screen.  Perhaps this bug is device- and iOS-specific.  I'm using an
> iPhone 5 and iOS 8.3.  I may communicate with Audible again in order to
> tell them that no one, sighted or blind, should have to switch focus away
> from the device in order to delete a book.  I am glad you are able to
> delete books in the prescribed way and only wish the process would work
> equally well for everyone.  Again, thanks for your words.
>
> Craig
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','siegh...@live.ca');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi craig and others,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my
>> 5S and I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version
>> 2.6.1 (377).
>>
>> The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last
>> few versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when
>> they first introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed
>> it and it has been working fine for me without any work-arounds.
>>
>> All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of
>> Refresh) and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can
>> double tap them and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if
>> you want to delete, but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by
>> the time you get to this point you know you want to delete the book.
>>
>> I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say
>> “Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so
>> I know for sure I am on the correct delete button.
>>
>> All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the
>> left of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book
>> title first, then it reads the “Menu” button and then comes the delete
>> button. Interestingly enough, when the main delete button is activated and
>> you explore the screen rather than swipe, the Menu buttons which are
>> normally down the very right edge of the screen, are nowhere to be found,
>> you hear them only when you swipe, but they actually don’t do anything when
>> in delete mode.
>>
>> Maybe some others can check if this works for them, but I also hadn’t
>> heard lately that the delete functionality was broken.
>>
>> I do, however, agree that it would be nice if for Voiceover users delete
>> was once again a rotor option as it once was.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>> *From:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com'); [mailto:
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Craig
>> Werner
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:53 AM
>> *To:* j

RE: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Rose Combs 
Trust me I always close that screen on Audible and Kindle, I know that, but, 
sometimes it seems I cannot delete a book I finished because the app thinks I 
did not finish it.  Odd but then, I am getting used to that lately.  

 

 

Rose Combs

 <mailto:roseco...@q.com> roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New to Audible iOS app

 

Hi Rose,

 

The app does not force you to rate the book. Yes, the rating screen pops up 
once you finish a book, but you can simply tap the close button at the top left 
and that will close it and your book will show as finished.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New to Audible iOS app

 

Thank you, we should not have to perform 5 actions to a sighted person’s two to 
complete the same thing.  It is the only thing about Audible that I truly hate, 
it should be as in mail, swipe to delete button and erase.  I am glad I have a 
128 6 but, there are books that I know I finished that it does not think I 
finished, probably because I refuse to rate them, I don’t rate anything 
especially when some app tries to force me to do so.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern that 
this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been broken 
for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.

 

Craig

 


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
up my library on the phone.

Kimber

On 10/6/15, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > wrote:
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
> In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
> with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> this button, and the book will be gone.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com <javascript:;> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
>> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
>> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>
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RE: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Rose,

 

The app does not force you to rate the book. Yes, the rating screen pops up 
once you finish a book, but you can simply tap the close button at the top left 
and that will close it and your book will show as finished.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New to Audible iOS app

 

Thank you, we should not have to perform 5 actions to a sighted person’s two to 
complete the same thing.  It is the only thing about Audible that I truly hate, 
it should be as in mail, swipe to delete button and erase.  I am glad I have a 
128 6 but, there are books that I know I finished that it does not think I 
finished, probably because I refuse to rate them, I don’t rate anything 
especially when some app tries to force me to do so.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com <mailto:roseco...@q.com> 

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern that 
this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been broken 
for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.

 

Craig

 


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
up my library on the phone.

Kimber

On 10/6/15, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > wrote:
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
> In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
> with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> this button, and the book will be gone.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com <javascript:;> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
>> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
>> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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RE: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi craig and others,

 

This is very strange, I now have an iPhone 6S, but I also still have my 5S and 
I have the most recent Audible version on both devices (version 2.6.1 (377).

The Delete function works and has worked for me as it should in the last few 
versions. I don’t remember when it was broken that time I think when they first 
introduced the 2.5 or 2.6 series of updates, but then they fixed it and it has 
been working fine for me without any work-arounds.

All I do is double tap the Delete button at the top (to the left of Refresh) 
and then all the delete buttons beside each book show up, I can double tap them 
and the book is gone. The app no longer asks to confirm if you want to delete, 
but that’s fine with me since one would assume that by the time you get to this 
point you know you want to delete the book.

I still think it’s too bad that the buttons to delete each book only say 
“Delete” and not Delete followed by the book title, but I usually swipe so I 
know for sure I am on the correct delete button. 

All the delete buttons are along the very left edge of the screen, to the left 
of the book titles, but when you swipe right, Voiceover reads the book title 
first, then it reads the “Menu” button and then comes the delete button. 
Interestingly enough, when the main delete button is activated and you explore 
the screen rather than swipe, the Menu buttons which are normally down the very 
right edge of the screen, are nowhere to be found, you hear them only when you 
swipe, but they actually don’t do anything when in delete mode.

Maybe some others can check if this works for them, but I also hadn’t heard 
lately that the delete functionality was broken.

I do, however, agree that it would be nice if for Voiceover users delete was 
once again a rotor option as it once was.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern that 
this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been broken 
for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.

 

Craig

 


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
up my library on the phone.

Kimber

On 10/6/15, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > wrote:
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
> In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
> with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> this button, and the book will be gone.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com <javascript:;> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
>> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
>> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>
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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread chris 
I got the delete function to work, but it would be nice to have it as an 
action in the loving actions rotor. Audible's method could inconvenience 
and even fool new users like myself into thinking one cannot delete a 
book from the app.


On 06/10/2015 22:28, Craig Werner wrote:

Robin, I intend to phone Audible this evening.  I believe this is the third
time in a year or so that they have broken the "delete" function with
VoiceOver.  In an effort to be kind and firm, I intend to play the role of
a customer of over ten years for whom the burden of suffering with their
mis-steps has gone beyond a minor vexation. (smile)

Craig


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi,
Oh wow I’d missed this one.
thanks for teaching me something today.  I wasn’t aware of this current
breakage. Glory can’t they get anything right lately (smile)? Has anyone
reported this one to the Audible folk?
Thanks again for the work around and for teaching me something new.
Robin


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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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*Subject:* Re: New to Audible iOS app

Hello, Chris.

The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
"Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
"Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
this button, and the book will be gone.

Craig


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','challswor...@icloud.com');>> wrote:


Hi all

Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Kimber Gardner 
I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
up my library on the phone.

Kimber

On 10/6/15, Craig Werner  wrote:
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
> In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
> with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> this button, and the book will be gone.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris  wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
>> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
>> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Craig Werner 
Hello, everyone.

I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern
that this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been
broken for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.

Craig


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner 
wrote:

> I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
> up my library on the phone.
>
> Kimber
>
> On 10/6/15, Craig Werner > wrote:
> > Hello, Chris.
> >
> > The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> > how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> > button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> > "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> > process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact,
> delete
> > the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> > users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> > "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device"
> button.
> > In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> > back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the
> one
> > with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> > this button, and the book will be gone.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris  > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
> >> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
> >> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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RE: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Rose Combs 
Thank you, we should not have to perform 5 actions to a sighted person’s two to 
complete the same thing.  It is the only thing about Audible that I truly hate, 
it should be as in mail, swipe to delete button and erase.  I am glad I have a 
128 6 but, there are books that I know I finished that it does not think I 
finished, probably because I refuse to rate them, I don’t rate anything 
especially when some app tries to force me to do so.  

 

 

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Craig Werner
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 4:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have reported this problem in detail to Audible along with the concern that 
this is the third time, I believe, that the "delete" function has been broken 
for VoiceOver users in the last year or so.

 

Craig

 


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I didn't know this work-around either. Thanks so much. Now I can clean
up my library on the phone.

Kimber

On 10/6/15, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > wrote:
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
> In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
> with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> this button, and the book will be gone.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com <javascript:;> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
>> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
>> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-07 Thread Robin Frost 
Hi,
Please do. I emailed this morning and they’re acting like this isn’t a big deal 
and since there’s a work-around according to them they’re not even 
acknowledging that it’s broken. As for their work-around it seems to differ 
from that which you outlined and isn’t making much sense to me. Best of luck. 
they’re frustrating me today.
Robin


From: Craig Werner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

Robin, I intend to phone Audible this evening.  I believe this is the third 
time in a year or so that they have broken the "delete" function with 
VoiceOver.  In an effort to be kind and firm, I intend to play the role of a 
customer of over ten years for whom the burden of suffering with their 
mis-steps has gone beyond a minor vexation. (smile)

Craig


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi,
  Oh wow I’d missed this one.
  thanks for teaching me something today.  I wasn’t aware of this current 
breakage. Glory can’t they get anything right lately (smile)? Has anyone 
reported this one to the Audible folk?
  Thanks again for the work around and for teaching me something new.
  Robin


  From: Craig Werner 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 2:38 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com'); 
  Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

  Hello, Chris.

  The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's how 
the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete" button. 
Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another "Delete" button 
with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the process were working 
normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete the book. Trouble is that 
the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver users, but there is a 
work-around. After you have pressed the initial "Delete" button, press the 
"Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button. In other words, you are 
shifting focus from your device to the cloud and back again. Once you have made 
this focus swap, the second button, the one with the VoiceOver hint of "delete 
from device," magically appears. Press this button, and the book will be gone.

  Craig


  On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','challswor...@icloud.com');> wrote:

Hi all

Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user 
delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it doesn't do 
anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-06 Thread Craig Werner 
Hello, Chris.

The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
"Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
"Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
this button, and the book will be gone.

Craig


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
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> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-06 Thread Craig Werner 
Robin, I intend to phone Audible this evening.  I believe this is the third
time in a year or so that they have broken the "delete" function with
VoiceOver.  In an effort to be kind and firm, I intend to play the role of
a customer of over ten years for whom the burden of suffering with their
mis-steps has gone beyond a minor vexation. (smile)

Craig


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Oh wow I’d missed this one.
> thanks for teaching me something today.  I wasn’t aware of this current
> breakage. Glory can’t they get anything right lately (smile)? Has anyone
> reported this one to the Audible folk?
> Thanks again for the work around and for teaching me something new.
> Robin
>
>
> *From:* Craig Werner
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','coffeeb...@gmail.com');>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2015 2:38 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','viphone@googlegroups.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: New to Audible iOS app
>
> Hello, Chris.
>
> The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's
> how the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete"
> button. Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another
> "Delete" button with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the
> process were working normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete
> the book. Trouble is that the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver
> users, but there is a work-around. After you have pressed the initial
> "Delete" button, press the "Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button.
> In other words, you are shifting focus from your device to the cloud and
> back again. Once you have made this focus swap, the second button, the one
> with the VoiceOver hint of "delete from device," magically appears. Press
> this button, and the book will be gone.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','challswor...@icloud.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user
>> delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it
>> doesn't do anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: New to Audible iOS app

2015-10-06 Thread Robin Frost 
Hi,
Oh wow I’d missed this one.
thanks for teaching me something today.  I wasn’t aware of this current 
breakage. Glory can’t they get anything right lately (smile)? Has anyone 
reported this one to the Audible folk?
Thanks again for the work around and for teaching me something new.
Robin


From: Craig Werner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New to Audible iOS app

Hello, Chris.

The "Delete" button does indeed, at first glance, seem pointless.  Here's how 
the deletion process should work. The user double-taps the "Delete" button. 
Then, right next to each title on the device, there is another "Delete" button 
with the VoiceOver hint "delete from the device." If the process were working 
normally, pressing this button would, in fact, delete the book. Trouble is that 
the operation isn't working right for VoiceOver users, but there is a 
work-around. After you have pressed the initial "Delete" button, press the 
"Cloud" button followed by the "Device" button. In other words, you are 
shifting focus from your device to the cloud and back again. Once you have made 
this focus swap, the second button, the one with the VoiceOver hint of "delete 
from device," magically appears. Press this button, and the book will be gone.

Craig


On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, chris <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Hi all

  Subject says it all, now here is the question. How does a VoiceOver user 
delete a book? I see a delete button, but that seems pointless if it doesn't do 
anything. Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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