Re: Regina's Sermon
No, first of all, I tried to be generic and not point at you and was not. Lots and lots of posts over the last week complaining and complaining. Not just you. Secondly, no, nothing wrong with asking to download if possible and did not mean to imply you were wrong to ask. However, I don't know how long you have been on our list. You may be a new member or deleted the posts in which case I apologize, but every time there is a new upgrade, the same question is asked. It was on list that I learned you cannot downgrade, although sometimes for a day or so you can. As for being holier than thou? Um, not intended and sorry if it sounded that way. I simply was commenting on human nature! Take care and have a great day. I did not mean to ruin it. VERY sorry if I did. Your holier than thou friend, reggie and Allegra On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi Regina, I am the one who started the thread that prompted your “sermon” and so I would like to respond to it. You said that unless someone is a new IOS user that they would know that one cannot downgrade. Why is that? I have been a IOS user for 2 years and 2 months. I did not know that downgrading is impossible until now because it has not come up until now. I have gone through three major IOS upgrades and several minor ones. I have never before encountered problems that were sufficient to make me want to go to the trouble of downgrading. This being the case, how would I know that it is impossible? I assure you that I am not one to think that technology must be perfect. I started using computers in the 1980s, when they were much more limited than they are now. Like many of us, I carried around floppy disks and tapes and records and all of the equipment necessary to use them. I am very thankful that the functions of all of those devices can now be completely replaced by my laptop and iPhone, not to mention the fact that the devices that I have now have capabilities that would have seemed like science fiction back then. I am truly amazed and thankful at all of the technological resources that I have at my disposal. I am not a cancer survivor. However, I have lived through some pretty bad personal tragedies, which I will not describe here. Suffice it to say that I realize that I am very blessed that the worst problem that I have at the moment is dealing with some IOS7 bugs. Now, having said all of that, is there anything wrong with me wanting to downgrade to IOS6, if I can find a relatively easy way to do so? I don’t think that there is. If you don’t want to, that’s fine. However, I think that a sermon, which came across to me as being a bit holier than thou, is going a bit overboard. By the way, I am communicating with Apple about the problems. I too am sure that they will fix it, eventually. I don’t think it’s a huge deal anyway. In fact, I said that in a post yesterday. However, If I and maybe some others would like to downgrade for a few months, until they do fix it, that isn’t a crime or a character issue. Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Regina's Sermon
Regina, Apology accepted. And you did not come even remotely close to ruining my day. Takes a lot more than a little disagreement. Have a great day, Scott Duck From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Regina's Sermon No, first of all, I tried to be generic and not point at you and was not. Lots and lots of posts over the last week complaining and complaining. Not just you. Secondly, no, nothing wrong with asking to download if possible and did not mean to imply you were wrong to ask. However, I don't know how long you have been on our list. You may be a new member or deleted the posts in which case I apologize, but every time there is a new upgrade, the same question is asked. It was on list that I learned you cannot downgrade, although sometimes for a day or so you can. As for being holier than thou? Um, not intended and sorry if it sounded that way. I simply was commenting on human nature! Take care and have a great day. I did not mean to ruin it. VERY sorry if I did. Your holier than thou friend, reggie and Allegra On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz wrote: Hi Regina, I am the one who started the thread that prompted your sermon and so I would like to respond to it. You said that unless someone is a new IOS user that they would know that one cannot downgrade. Why is that? I have been a IOS user for 2 years and 2 months. I did not know that downgrading is impossible until now because it has not come up until now. I have gone through three major IOS upgrades and several minor ones. I have never before encountered problems that were sufficient to make me want to go to the trouble of downgrading. This being the case, how would I know that it is impossible? I assure you that I am not one to think that technology must be perfect. I started using computers in the 1980s, when they were much more limited than they are now. Like many of us, I carried around floppy disks and tapes and records and all of the equipment necessary to use them. I am very thankful that the functions of all of those devices can now be completely replaced by my laptop and iPhone, not to mention the fact that the devices that I have now have capabilities that would have seemed like science fiction back then. I am truly amazed and thankful at all of the technological resources that I have at my disposal. I am not a cancer survivor. However, I have lived through some pretty bad personal tragedies, which I will not describe here. Suffice it to say that I realize that I am very blessed that the worst problem that I have at the moment is dealing with some IOS7 bugs. Now, having said all of that, is there anything wrong with me wanting to downgrade to IOS6, if I can find a relatively easy way to do so? I don't think that there is. If you don't want to, that's fine. However, I think that a sermon, which came across to me as being a bit holier than thou, is going a bit overboard. By the way, I am communicating with Apple about the problems. I too am sure that they will fix it, eventually. I don't think it's a huge deal anyway. In fact, I said that in a post yesterday. However, If I and maybe some others would like to downgrade for a few months, until they do fix it, that isn't a crime or a character issue. Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: Regina's Sermon
I've been around about the same amount of time, I knew, it has been around. But as we also know, if not of immediate interest, it is easily deleted, unread. Or forgotten. Either way, it was a philosophical point, all be it a bit OT by now. So we can accept or reject, but better let it lie, now. Ps: I didn't rush into iOs7, and now they're talking about forcing it? Girhrhrhrhrh! Rh. That's more a Microsoft thing. - Original Message - From: Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz To: iPhone List viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:59 PM Subject: Regina's Sermon Hi Regina, I am the one who started the thread that prompted your sermon and so I would like to respond to it. You said that unless someone is a new IOS user that they would know that one cannot downgrade. Why is that? I have been a IOS user for 2 years and 2 months. I did not know that downgrading is impossible until now because it has not come up until now. I have gone through three major IOS upgrades and several minor ones. I have never before encountered problems that were sufficient to make me want to go to the trouble of downgrading. This being the case, how would I know that it is impossible? I assure you that I am not one to think that technology must be perfect. I started using computers in the 1980s, when they were much more limited than they are now. Like many of us, I carried around floppy disks and tapes and records and all of the equipment necessary to use them. I am very thankful that the functions of all of those devices can now be completely replaced by my laptop and iPhone, not to mention the fact that the devices that I have now have capabilities that would have seemed like science fiction back then. I am truly amazed and thankful at all of the technological resources that I have at my disposal. I am not a cancer survivor. However, I have lived through some pretty bad personal tragedies, which I will not describe here. Suffice it to say that I realize that I am very blessed that the worst problem that I have at the moment is dealing with some IOS7 bugs. Now, having said all of that, is there anything wrong with me wanting to downgrade to IOS6, if I can find a relatively easy way to do so? I don't think that there is. If you don't want to, that's fine. However, I think that a sermon, which came across to me as being a bit holier than thou, is going a bit overboard. By the way, I am communicating with Apple about the problems. I too am sure that they will fix it, eventually. I don't think it's a huge deal anyway. In fact, I said that in a post yesterday. However, If I and maybe some others would like to downgrade for a few months, until they do fix it, that isn't a crime or a character issue. Thanks, Scott Duck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
