Re: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Are you sure that the phone you have now are an another new phone? Take care 10. nov. 2013 kl. 18:39 skrev BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com: Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups
Re: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Try another shop. Maybe this shop has received many iPhones with this problem. Take care 10. nov. 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com: Hi Richard, It is hard to say, as they set up the phone for me in the store. All I know is that it did it after my Apple ID was used to register the phone... So I thought about checking to see if this is the problem, but I can't imagine why the guys at the store wouldn't suggest this as well... And what could it be in the Apple ID that would cause this trouble? That's the part I can't figure out. Plus my wife's phone is doing this as well, and she has her own Apple ID and has the same problem. Thanks, Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Did the phone do this before you added any of your own settings? I mean just as a factory phone with just VoiceOver on, but no personal settings at all? exactly which model phone is it? If it does speak the code stufh without any of your settings, then I'd keep asking for another phone until you find one that doesn't do that. If it only starts after you sign in with your Apple ID, or setup your mail, etc. then it is clear that there is a problem with your account. sounds like a royal pain ... Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:39 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Brian, Having Apple give you a new phone is as good as it gets. I'm curious, did VoiceOver read these strange symbols while you were in the Apple store? That is to say, did a Apple Genius witness the problem? I would give anything to have another VoiceOver user play with your phone to see if the same phenomena occurs. I'm not suggesting anything, mind you, just thinking, on-list, as it were. Do me a favor, assuming that VoiceOver did not read weird symbols in the Apple store, take your new device to a different location from where you are experiencing this symbol reading problem; say a coffee shop, a supermarket, any place and see what happens. Do you have any kind of screen protector on the phone? If so, remove it. Also, make sure the device is not housed in any kind of case. Finally, make sure you are not using any kind of Bluetooth or third-party accessory. Keep us posted. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Miller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 5:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi, So I went a third time and they gave me a new phone... and... Same problem. I still get the symbols. I am utterly baffled. I go to the bottom of the screen and I flick left through safari, mail, phone, and then I get the string of symbols... one more flick left and more symbols, then I get compass. With a flick back right I get settings and then symnbols again... It makes no sense. And this is just one example. It is littered throughout all of my apps. I've reset from scratch, and have a brand new phone now and I still haven't escaped this issue. Can I really be the only one? Brian M On 11/9/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having that experience. My voiceover reads the way it always has. I am running iOS 7.0.3 on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2013, at 4:30, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife’s phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: The Square root of IOS7
This may be a stretch but you have not turned on Assistive Touch in Accessibility settings under Physical and Motor? I am not sure it would cause this problem, but it sure did cause me problems the one time I turned it on. Eric -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Miller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi, So I went a third time and they gave me a new phone... and... Same problem. I still get the symbols. I am utterly baffled. I go to the bottom of the screen and I flick left through safari, mail, phone, and then I get the string of symbols... one more flick left and more symbols, then I get compass. With a flick back right I get settings and then symnbols again... It makes no sense. And this is just one example. It is littered throughout all of my apps. I've reset from scratch, and have a brand new phone now and I still haven't escaped this issue. Can I really be the only one? Brian M On 11/9/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having that experience. My voiceover reads the way it always has. I am running iOS 7.0.3 on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2013, at 4:30, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail
Re: The Square root of IOS7
I would guess that it's more likely a setting in IOS rather than a particular app. Another thing to try would be to restore to factory settings and don't restore to a recent backup. do you still see the problem? Go through and set up the phone as you would do normally, without restoring a backup, and see if or when the problem is introduced. If a sighted person says the screen looks fine then I'd guess it might have something to do with a language mismatch between IOS and VoiceOver. I'd check those settings first. I know not restoring from a backup could be painful if that resolves the problem and you can't narrow it down further but that's still better than not having a working phone. On 11/10/2013 11:39 AM, BrianMiller wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow
Re: The Square root of IOS7
Did the phone do this before you added any of your own settings? I mean just as a factory phone with just VoiceOver on, but no personal settings at all? exactly which model phone is it? If it does speak the code stufh without any of your settings, then I'd keep asking for another phone until you find one that doesn't do that. If it only starts after you sign in with your Apple ID, or setup your mail, etc. then it is clear that there is a problem with your account. sounds like a royal pain ... Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:39 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow
Re: The Square root of IOS7
hi brian, I'd sujest having a list of aps and downloading each one and checking each time for hte problum you described. at some point maybe one of hte aps is the culprit and you'll nab it this way and remove it and all will be sunshine is iPhone land again for you. Ithink someone else might have mentined this. Good luck, Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Richard, It is hard to say, as they set up the phone for me in the store. All I know is that it did it after my Apple ID was used to register the phone... So I thought about checking to see if this is the problem, but I can't imagine why the guys at the store wouldn't suggest this as well... And what could it be in the Apple ID that would cause this trouble? That's the part I can't figure out. Plus my wife's phone is doing this as well, and she has her own Apple ID and has the same problem. Thanks, Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Did the phone do this before you added any of your own settings? I mean just as a factory phone with just VoiceOver on, but no personal settings at all? exactly which model phone is it? If it does speak the code stufh without any of your settings, then I'd keep asking for another phone until you find one that doesn't do that. If it only starts after you sign in with your Apple ID, or setup your mail, etc. then it is clear that there is a problem with your account. sounds like a royal pain ... Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:39 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Billy, Thanks... Thing is, the phone was doing this before I downloaded any apps... So unless it's one of the standard off the shelf apps, I can't figure out how the phone would have this problem before I reloaded some of my third party apps. What's frustrating is that the Apple Store guys seem to be out of ideas -- or more to the point, aren't particularly moved by the problem... They aren't indifferent, exactly, but they simply don't have anything to offer. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Maynard Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 hi brian, I'd sujest having a list of aps and downloading each one and checking each time for hte problum you described. at some point maybe one of hte aps is the culprit and you'll nab it this way and remove it and all will be sunshine is iPhone land again for you. Ithink someone else might have mentined this. Good luck, Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you
Re: The Square root of IOS7
I’m coming in late to this topic and it’s probably been suggested. I apologize if that is the case, but did you try resetting your VoiceOver settings back to their defaults? Also, just the overall settings? Somewhere in the recesses of my old brain, I recall reading about this in the past, but for the life of me, I forget the circumstances, but I am sure a specific setting or settings had to be reset. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Nov 10, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote: hi brian, I'd sujest having a list of aps and downloading each one and checking each time for hte problum you described. at some point maybe one of hte aps is the culprit and you'll nab it this way and remove it and all will be sunshine is iPhone land again for you. Ithink someone else might have mentined this. Good luck, Billy Maynard - Original Message - From: BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Robert, Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store -- end result, same problem. The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done. So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue. Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas. How can this continue to be a problem? And why my phones an apparently no one else's? It's just weird. Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that. Brian M -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store. It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's phone if it fixes things on yours. Good luck, Robert Carter On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options
RE: The Square root of IOS7
I've seen things where a symbol or two is read very oddly, but nothing like what you are describing. Have you checked what the wall paper is in your settings? It almost sounds like you have some geometric pattern that is confusing VoiceOver. Also, in settings, general, accessibility, try turning on reduce motion, which stops the new feature of having the background animated. For any low-vision users out there, I saw a tip about taking a picture of something black like the side of a filing cabinet and then making that picture your wall paper to improve the contrast. Or, I suppose if one prefers a light background, taking a picture of a blank sheet of paper would do the same thing. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Square root of IOS7
Brian, this looks like is a problem in your phone. Normally sirii or voice over doesn't reads what is on the screen, unless we are talking about labels. But also normally VO doesn't read weird characters or symbols. Now you have gone to the apple store 2 times, and I think that you have shown the problem there, and you said that they restored your phone as a new phone, as factory settings. But what they say when you show the problem there? what apple says when you show that voice over reads weird symbols or characters that are not on the screen, or been on the screen, while they are there? Restoring the phone to factory settings is not the solution, you have done it 2 times, and you can not been doing it for ever. They have to find a solution for this problem. A permanent solution, not a temporary solution. - Original Message - From: BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Richard, Thanks you for these good tips... Unfortunately trying these tricks did not solve the particular problem I am having, but it is good advice for when this phone is actually working properly. I guess I'm off to the Apple Store for attempt #3 at getting this fixed! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 I've seen things where a symbol or two is read very oddly, but nothing like what you are describing. Have you checked what the wall paper is in your settings? It almost sounds like you have some geometric pattern that is confusing VoiceOver. Also, in settings, general, accessibility, try turning on reduce motion, which stops the new feature of having the background animated. For any low-vision users out there, I saw a tip about taking a picture of something black like the side of a filing cabinet and then making that picture your wall paper to improve the contrast. Or, I suppose if one prefers a light background, taking a picture of a blank sheet of paper would do the same thing. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
RE: The Square root of IOS7
It sounds like it is time to ask for a replacement phone. Best of luck, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Richard, Thanks you for these good tips... Unfortunately trying these tricks did not solve the particular problem I am having, but it is good advice for when this phone is actually working properly. I guess I'm off to the Apple Store for attempt #3 at getting this fixed! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 I've seen things where a symbol or two is read very oddly, but nothing like what you are describing. Have you checked what the wall paper is in your settings? It almost sounds like you have some geometric pattern that is confusing VoiceOver. Also, in settings, general, accessibility, try turning on reduce motion, which stops the new feature of having the background animated. For any low-vision users out there, I saw a tip about taking a picture of something black like the side of a filing cabinet and then making that picture your wall paper to improve the contrast. Or, I suppose if one prefers a light background, taking a picture of a blank sheet of paper would do the same thing. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Hi Brian, I have read most of the hundreds and hundreds of messages people sent in after upgrading and don't recall coming across anything like this. Do you get this in the setup screen after doing a restore or is that happening even after you have gone through the initial setup process on the phone and are on the home screen? Have you done a simple reboot of your phone, i.e. power it off and back on? You said you went to an Apple Store, what did the genious say about this? To me this almost sounds like you may have selected a non-english language or your region maybe set wrong. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Square root of IOS7
I have never seen this issue nor read about it. Sounds like an issue with your phone. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I have read most of the hundreds and hundreds of messages people sent in after upgrading and don't recall coming across anything like this. Do you get this in the setup screen after doing a restore or is that happening even after you have gone through the initial setup process on the phone and are on the home screen? Have you done a simple reboot of your phone, i.e. power it off and back on? You said you went to an Apple Store, what did the genious say about this? To me this almost sounds like you may have selected a non-english language or your region maybe set wrong. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Square root of IOS7
What are the Apple store geeks telling you about what is wrong that needs to be modified. Is it visual as well, or something VO is doing by itself? These might be things to keep in mind when dealing with this issue. A reset of the phone doesn’t seem to resolve it, so maybe there is a different issue regarding the display if visual, or wallpaper, etc. Perhaps a few specific questions to the geniuses might be in order, if you haven’t done this already. HtH, Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote: I have never seen this issue nor read about it. Sounds like an issue with your phone. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 Hi Brian, I have read most of the hundreds and hundreds of messages people sent in after upgrading and don't recall coming across anything like this. Do you get this in the setup screen after doing a restore or is that happening even after you have gone through the initial setup process on the phone and are on the home screen? Have you done a simple reboot of your phone, i.e. power it off and back on? You said you went to an Apple Store, what did the genious say about this? To me this almost sounds like you may have selected a non-english language or your region maybe set wrong. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner
Re: The Square root of IOS7
I am not having that experience. My voiceover reads the way it always has. I am running iOS 7.0.3 on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2013, at 4:30, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Square root of IOS7
Hi, So I went a third time and they gave me a new phone... and... Same problem. I still get the symbols. I am utterly baffled. I go to the bottom of the screen and I flick left through safari, mail, phone, and then I get the string of symbols... one more flick left and more symbols, then I get compass. With a flick back right I get settings and then symnbols again... It makes no sense. And this is just one example. It is littered throughout all of my apps. I've reset from scratch, and have a brand new phone now and I still haven't escaped this issue. Can I really be the only one? Brian M On 11/9/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having that experience. My voiceover reads the way it always has. I am running iOS 7.0.3 on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2013, at 4:30, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Square root of IOS7
This would indicate to me that you have a setting somewhere which is different from most other people. The question is, what and where? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2013, at 14:46, Brian Miller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So I went a third time and they gave me a new phone... and... Same problem. I still get the symbols. I am utterly baffled. I go to the bottom of the screen and I flick left through safari, mail, phone, and then I get the string of symbols... one more flick left and more symbols, then I get compass. With a flick back right I get settings and then symnbols again... It makes no sense. And this is just one example. It is littered throughout all of my apps. I've reset from scratch, and have a brand new phone now and I still haven't escaped this issue. Can I really be the only one? Brian M On 11/9/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: I am not having that experience. My voiceover reads the way it always has. I am running iOS 7.0.3 on an iPhone five. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2013, at 4:30, BrianMiller brianrmille...@gmail.com wrote: All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
RE: The Square root of IOS7
Richard, this is an excellent suggestion. I never would have thought of it. I don't know if your suggestion resolved the issue but I applaud your critical thinking. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7 I've seen things where a symbol or two is read very oddly, but nothing like what you are describing. Have you checked what the wall paper is in your settings? It almost sounds like you have some geometric pattern that is confusing VoiceOver. Also, in settings, general, accessibility, try turning on reduce motion, which stops the new feature of having the background animated. For any low-vision users out there, I saw a tip about taking a picture of something black like the side of a filing cabinet and then making that picture your wall paper to improve the contrast. Or, I suppose if one prefers a light background, taking a picture of a blank sheet of paper would do the same thing. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrianMiller Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: The Square root of IOS7 All, I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with long strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols. This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort. This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless. I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue. I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new landscape of IOS? Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to interact with my screen? Or is there just something wrong with my specific phone... Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this situation is extremely frustrating. It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it. Thank you so much. Brian Miller Alexandria, VA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https
