Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[lenron brown]

Well the fact that it could be worth nothing in a few years is the
risk I will take by doing this. I am ok with that, It's one of the
things that happens with investing.

On 6/11/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have done well with Apple stock, since I bought it in either 2017 or 2018,
> and the thing that really helped is that it split four to one. So I have
> four times as many shares as I once had, and if it keeps climbing like it is
> now, it will soon reach $204, which is what I paid for that original 50.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 2:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you
> never even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in
> that condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or
> so, not bad.
> The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on
> configuration, so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000
> after 16 years that would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
> Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had
> bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs
> announced the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty
> good investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not
> far behind what you could have made if you still had an unopened original
> iPhone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about
> the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come
> down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on
> buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows
> what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really
> get full emersion.
>
> On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those
>> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>
>> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never
>> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
>> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest
>> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry
>> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>>
>> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost,
>> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit
>> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still
>> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came
>> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the
>> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and
>> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but
>> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was
>> introduced.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>
>> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the
>> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have
>> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the
>> big ones.
>> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.
>> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.
>> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28
>> martin guitar.
>> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery
>> life.
>>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a who

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have done well with Apple stock, since I bought it in either 2017 or 2018, 
and the thing that really helped is that it split four to one. So I have four 
times as many shares as I once had, and if it keeps climbing like it is now, it 
will soon reach $204, which is what I paid for that original 50. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 2:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing 

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I do think that they will come down like everything else does. Remember, when a 
42 inch TV was about $4,000? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. 
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
>>>> people will not appreciate that message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power 
>>>>> to them!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And just to add this, if you buy one of these first VR headsets for $3,500 they 
may also very well be worth $100 in 15 years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>>> the other stupid he

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. 
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
>>>> people will not appreciat

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[lenron brown]

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash
about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price
will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass
device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a
collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally
am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those headsets
> like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend
> money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't
> tend to project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products
> on others. There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money
> others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and
> battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but
> isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what
> was said about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has
> changed the lives of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price
> has really come down much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't
> changed our lives for the good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone
> thought it was when it was introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I
> have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all,
> bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd
> never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did
> have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll
> stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people
>>>> will not appreciate that message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to
>>>>> them!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>>
>>>>> A

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Empty message

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alban 
hoxha
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:05:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
>>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice
>>>> over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've
>>>> come to love on other apple products

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

>From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those headsets like 
>crazy, but for me, not happening. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>>> John Ruskin My web site:
>>&

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Same here, Dennis, would not be interested for $300 or even $30. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I have zero interest in this headset 

Sent from my iPhone SE 3

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste 
> of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
> stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
> just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
> headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
> reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
> people will not appreciate that message.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I 
>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the 
>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> Amen to that, Richard!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
>> my house and do the cooking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
>> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using 
>> vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>>   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>>   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
>> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>>   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
>> a cure for cancer.
>> 
>>   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.
>> 
>>   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
>> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>>   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>>   Mark
>> 
>> 
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
>> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
>> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses 
>> so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
>> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>> 
>>   --
>>

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

I remember I was very unsure as to how we could use the iPhone but now I find 
it really good on the whole but 3500 is very expensive though.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>>> John Ruskin My web site:
>>>> https://ww

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Christopher Chaltain]

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
>>>> John Ruskin My web site:
>>>> https://ww/
>>>> w.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cfece0d78493547459b0e08db695efb6
>>>> 8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638219628907840550%7
>>>> CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Cpi%2FHTNYBfUop4rpe1xr
>>>> J0n%2BmN2utbMuNd9BBt

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[alban hoxha]

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:05:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
>>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice
>>>> over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've
>>>> come to love on other apple products.  I am excited to see what
>>>> will come abwhen using vision pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>  

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice 
>>>> over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've 
>>>> come to love on other apple products.  I am excited to see what 
>>>> will come abwhen using vision pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the
cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have
them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of
the big ones.  And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the
smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how
good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a
beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery life.  The vision
pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few hours to
even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my
iPhone 13 pro max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a
>>> waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money
>>> for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid
>>> headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried
>>> about these stupid headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more
>>> time worrying about reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually
>>> happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I
>>>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the
>>>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to
>>>> clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John
>>>> Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over
>>>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love
>>>> on other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen
>>>> using vision pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>>>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>>You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>>>>
>>>>Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.
>>>> It's a bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has
>>>> gotten a bit tiresome.
>>>>
>>>>I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up
>>>> with a cure for cancer.
>>>>
>>>>And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as
>>>> ground breaking can already be done on Android.
>>>>
>>>>Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Stewart McKay]

ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.

On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

I have zero interest in this headset

Sent from my iPhone SE 3


On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of 
bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
people will not appreciate that message.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I wouldn't 
shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the resources and 
the interest then I say great and more power to them!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Amen to that, Richard!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com/



   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
pro.


   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
tiresome.

   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a 
cure for cancer.

   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
breaking can already be done on Android.

   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price 
tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.

   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

   Mark


   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening 
so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was 
said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Dennis Long]

I have zero interest in this headset 

Sent from my iPhone SE 3

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste 
> of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
> stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
> just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
> headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
> reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
> people will not appreciate that message.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I 
>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the 
>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> Amen to that, Richard!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
>> my house and do the cooking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
>> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using 
>> vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>>   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>>   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
>> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>>   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
>> a cure for cancer.
>> 
>>   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.
>> 
>>   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
>> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>>   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>>   Mark
>> 
>> 
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
>> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
>> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses 
>> so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
>> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>> 
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>> list.
>> 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Mary Otten]

I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of 
bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
people will not appreciate that message.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I wouldn't 
> shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the resources and 
> the interest then I say great and more power to them!
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> Amen to that, Richard!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
> house and do the cooking.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
> pro.
> 
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
>Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
>You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
> 
>Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
> tiresome.
> 
>I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
> a cure for cancer.
> 
>And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
> breaking can already be done on Android.
> 
>Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
> 
>Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
> 
>Mark
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
>Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
>I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
> he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
> 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Esther Levegnale]

No kidding, right?

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
> my house and do the cooking.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, 
>> and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other 
>> apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
>> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
>> for cancer.  
>> 
>> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.  
>> 
>> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
>> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
>> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was 
>> said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
>> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
>> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
>> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>> 
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>> 
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>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Christopher Chaltain]

For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I wouldn't 
shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the resources and 
the interest then I say great and more power to them!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Amen to that, Richard!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com/



On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a 
cure for cancer.

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
breaking can already be done on Android.

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price 
tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what 
was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Richard Turner]

I posted a link in a new thread for those interested in being tempted to spend 
a ton of money for the Vision Pro headset.

Or anyone wanting to know.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

If the Vision Pro headset in fact includes Voiceover and is fully accessible, I 
would say it's certainly appropriate for this list. However, since it won't be 
available for probably close to a year and I don't recall Apple saying anything 
about accessibility during the keynote it is definitely premature. From how 
they describe it I have my doubts regarding full accessibility because this 
sounds like it will be a very visually focused experience where you have to 
look at things to make the headset react and I am not sure how Apple will make 
that fully accessible. Of course they may have already figured it out so who 
knows, but no point in speculating and as others pointed out, at $3,500 US 
which means probably at least $4,500 or $4,800 Canadian this is probably not 
something the majority of blind people will buy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

What has this subject have to do with anything.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

No Kidding, right?

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the Vision Pro headset in fact includes Voiceover and is fully accessible, I 
would say it's certainly appropriate for this list. However, since it won't be 
available for probably close to a year and I don't recall Apple saying anything 
about accessibility during the keynote it is definitely premature. From how 
they describe it I have my doubts regarding full accessibility because this 
sounds like it will be a very visually focused experience where you have to 
look at things to make the headset react and I am not sure how Apple will make 
that fully accessible. Of course they may have already figured it out so who 
knows, but no point in speculating and as others pointed out, at $3,500 US 
which means probably at least $4,500 or $4,800 Canadian this is probably not 
something the majority of blind people will buy.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

What has this subject have to do with anything.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

No Kidding, right?

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.


Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, 
juanhernande...@gmail.com<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to think first next time you send an email making such remarks, 
not considered very appropriate any more these days and rightly so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Yes I will agree with this and to bring along a hot woman at that price as well 
hee. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.


Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, 
juanhernande...@gmail.com<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Amen to that, Richard! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a 
cure for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
breaking can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price 
tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what 
was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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[llumpkin]

What has this subject have to do with anything.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

No Kidding, right?

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Esther Levegnale]

No Kidding, right?

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
> my house and do the cooking.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, 
>> and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other 
>> apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
>> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
>> for cancer.  
>> 
>> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.  
>> 
>> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
>> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
>> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was 
>> said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
>> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
>> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
>> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[michv]

Yes I will agree with this and to bring along a hot woman at that price as well 
hee. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Richard Turner]

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.



Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
> all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
> products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
> 
> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
> tiresome.
> 
> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
> for cancer.  
> 
> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
> breaking can already be done on Android.  
> 
> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
> 
> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
> tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[juanhernandez98]

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Kelly Pierce]

Apple is a different company than what it was 10 years ago or so.
Today, there are eight or nine times the number of active iPhone users
compared to back then.  Apple then was establishing itself as a
company that created technology that no one else did, which included
accessibility. Apple was also establishing the iPhone itself as an
indispensable device.  The company also had fewer devices to discuss
so there was time in the keynote for a 15-minute film on Apple’s
amazing accessibility. Now Apple has established itself as the
accessibility king in the tech world and the trendsetter that everyone
else follows. For example, last year’s iPhone 14 announcement had
minimal detail on the new emergency satellite communication
functionality, the first cell phone to offer this novel feature. With
more than a billion daily iPhone users, there’s a lot of different
kinds of people and needs to address and delight.

Kelly


On 6/7/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I was a bit surprised that they didn't say anything about accessibility,
> just a few weeks ago there was some talk about some major accessibility
> improvements (can't remember what it was), but it sounded big and if that is
> indeed part of iOS 17 I think Apple would have patted themselves on the back
> a bit.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>
> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit
> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit
> tiresome.
>
> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure
> for cancer.
>
> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground
> breaking can already be done on Android.
>
> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year,
> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>
> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>
> Mark
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so
> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was
> said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about
> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he
> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset
> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I was a bit surprised that they didn't say anything about accessibility, just a 
few weeks ago there was some talk about some major accessibility improvements 
(can't remember what it was), but it sounded big and if that is indeed part of 
iOS 17 I think Apple would have patted themselves on the back a bit.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I was not because it never is, new iPhones are announced in early September and 
this has been so for many years; I believe maybe the iPhone 3GS or 4 back 
around 2009/2010 was announced in the summer, but ever since 2011 or 2012 it's 
been September.during th

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I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced.
Ryan Mann
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On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:

Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol

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tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[M. Taylor]

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
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place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Kelly Pierce]

I listened live to Leo LA Porte and his group of tech bros comment in
real time and critique the keynote immediately afterward. To avoid
turning the keynote into a marathon Oscars telecast, Apple kept the
keynote to 2 hours and six minutes, with a good chunk reserved for the
vision Pro. The iOS segment seemed truncated and rushed to accommodate
the Vision Pro announcement and to cover major updates for the Mac and
the Apple Watch OS. In the presentation, the only blindness
interesting new feature was a big update to messages. A subsequent
announcement said a cool new feature will extract password
verification codes from messages and mail and put them into the
verification box in an app or website.  Also, interactive widgets,
including live lock screen widgets will be coming in iOS 17, which was
long rumored.  For some reason, Apple could not keep a lid on the
rumors this year so there were few surprises, unlike in other years.
With so many third parties, vendors, and contractors, it is now
virtually impossible to prevent everyone from talking.

Wall Street was hyped up.  The stock popped 1.75 percent to reach a
new record high the morning of the keynote, but fell back as the
Vision Pro was revealed.  The tech bros with Leo LA Porte were
astounded by the price tag and did not believe the technology was as
developed as Apple seemed to show.  No one in the Video actually wore
the vision Pro during the keynote.  The guys thought it was a cool,
nerdy technology without a specific end user purpose. They suggested
the headset will be the next status symbol like the iPhone in the late
2000s.

Kelly



On 6/6/23, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They usually don't announce phones until September.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Mann 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced.
>>
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>     Maybe nobody else did
>>> either? Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening
>>> so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what
>>> was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>>
>>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case
>>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing
>>> addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US
>>> virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024
>>> 
>>>
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They usually don't announce phones until September. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 6, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:    Maybe nobody else did either? Lol  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What is happen to the Viphone list? I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569437B7FBEDEC92B580F2C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:    Maybe nobody else did either? Lol  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What is happen to the Viphone list? I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569437B7FBEDEC92B580F2C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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[Star Gazer]

Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.

I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

 

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mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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