Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Ah,  thank you for clarifying that,  Mark! In Apple Books,  I can set to 
continuous scrolling rather than page-turning to avoid such problems but most 
of my Kindle books were not apparently typeset to allow this. 
Thanks
Harry

> On 29 Dec 2023, at 04:45, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> Yes, if I manually lock the screen during Speech Screen playback, on a Kindle 
> title, speech will stop at the end of the current page.
> 
> However, when reading text from the web or other various text, locking the 
> screen does not cause playback to stop.
> 
> When it's all said and done, Speech Screen behaves differently depending upon 
> what is being read.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Mark,  thank you very much for the details. Your instructions work perfectly, 
> except that you do not refer to having the screen locked after starting the 
> Speak Screen process. Yes, if the screen remains unlocked, the speak. Screen 
> turns pages and carries on talking. But if after starting the speak screen 
> feature, I lock the screen, the Speak Screen voice simply stops at the end of 
> current page and does not restart and does not turn the page over. Is that 
> your experience too? Thanks
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2023, at 17:33, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Harry,
>> 
>> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
>> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
>> Switcher.
>> 
>> 2.
>> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
>> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.
>> 
>> 3.
>> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller 
>> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar 
>> with how it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display 
>> and will remain in the same location on the screen.
>> 
>> 4.
>> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  
>> Place focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
>> Controller to read.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
>> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
>> continuously.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 
>> 15 pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
>> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
>> about how to fix it?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
 On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Gentlemen,
>>> 
>>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and 
>>> start Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback 
>>> options similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are 
>>> many scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>>> 
>>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the 
>>> Kindel app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first 
>>> choice, if given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading 
>>> Kindle books with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has 
>>> offered in over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now 
>>> actively causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my 
>>> beloved Alexa.
>>> 
>>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller 
>>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>>> To:

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
Siri does have a new command 
“read this to me”. But as far as I can tell this only works on Web pages that 
can use reader mode. 
I actually dumped my NYTimes app so that I could use this feature.


> On Dec 27, 2023, at 6:54 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentlemen,
> 
> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
> helpful.
> 
> 1.
> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big fan 
> of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles while on 
> the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start Siri 
> playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options similar 
> to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
> 
> 2.
> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if iPhone 
> locks or another app grabs focus.
> 
> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
> 
> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller an 
> essential treat in the Apple orchard.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Good question Sieghard, 
> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case where 
> all that is desired. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
> wrote:
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
> controller?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
> phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a 
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to 
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen 
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Harry,

Yes, if I manually lock the screen during Speech Screen playback, on a Kindle 
title, speech will stop at the end of the current page.

However, when reading text from the web or other various text, locking the 
screen does not cause playback to stop.

When it's all said and done, Speech Screen behaves differently depending upon 
what is being read.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Mark,  thank you very much for the details. Your instructions work perfectly, 
except that you do not refer to having the screen locked after starting the 
Speak Screen process. Yes, if the screen remains unlocked, the speak. Screen 
turns pages and carries on talking. But if after starting the speak screen 
feature, I lock the screen, the Speak Screen voice simply stops at the end of 
current page and does not restart and does not turn the page over. Is that your 
experience too? Thanks 

> On 28 Dec 2023, at 17:33, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
> Switcher.
> 
> 2.
> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.
> 
> 3.
> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller 
> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar with 
> how it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display and will 
> remain in the same location on the screen.
> 
> 4.
> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  Place 
> focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
> Controller to read.
> 
> 5.
> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
> continuously.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
> pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
> about how to fix it?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gentlemen,
>> 
>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start 
>> Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options 
>> similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
>> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>> 
>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
>> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
>> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
>> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
>> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
>> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
>> 
>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller 
>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Good question Sieghard,
>> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
>> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
>> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
>> the past, having both speak selection and

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Mark,  thank you very much for the details. Your instructions work perfectly, 
except that you do not refer to having the screen locked after starting the 
Speak Screen process. Yes, if the screen remains unlocked, the speak. Screen 
turns pages and carries on talking. But if after starting the speak screen 
feature, I lock the screen, the Speak Screen voice simply stops at the end of 
current page and does not restart and does not turn the page over. Is that your 
experience too? Thanks 

> On 28 Dec 2023, at 17:33, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
> Switcher.
> 
> 2.
> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.
> 
> 3.
> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller 
> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar with 
> how it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display and will 
> remain in the same location on the screen.
> 
> 4.
> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  Place 
> focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
> Controller to read.
> 
> 5.
> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
> continuously.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
> pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
> about how to fix it?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gentlemen,
>> 
>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start 
>> Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options 
>> similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
>> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>> 
>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
>> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
>> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
>> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
>> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
>> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
>> 
>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller 
>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Good question Sieghard,
>> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
>> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
>> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
>> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
>> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case 
>> where all that is desired.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
>> wrote:
>> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
>> controller?
>> 
>>

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread Richard Turner 
I went back and tried Mark's steps. With VoiceOver on, that speaking controller 
is very inconsistent at best. And, I never could get it to work with Kindle. 
However, just using VoiceOver, and getting to where I wanted to start reading, 
and swiping down with two fingers VO read just fine and flipped the pages. Yes, 
there is a pause as the page turns, but it works. 

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:33 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
> Switcher.
> 
> 2.
> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.
> 
> 3.
> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller 
> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar with 
> how it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display and will 
> remain in the same location on the screen.
> 
> 4.
> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  Place 
> focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
> Controller to read.
> 
> 5.
> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
> continuously.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
> pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
> about how to fix it?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gentlemen,
>> 
>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start 
>> Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options 
>> similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
>> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>> 
>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
>> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
>> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
>> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
>> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
>> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
>> 
>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller 
>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Good question Sieghard,
>> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
>> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
>> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
>> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
>> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case 
>> where all that is desired.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel

RE: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Harry,

First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:

1.
Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
Switcher.

2.
>From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
>suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.

3.
On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller and 
expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar with how 
it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display and will 
remain in the same location on the screen.

4.
With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  Place 
focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
Controller to read.

5.
Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
continuously.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to turn 
the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions about 
how to fix it? 
Thanks
Harry

> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentlemen,
> 
> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
> helpful.
> 
> 1.
> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big fan 
> of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles while on 
> the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start Siri 
> playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options similar 
> to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
> 
> 2.
> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if iPhone 
> locks or another app grabs focus.
> 
> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
> 
> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller an 
> essential treat in the Apple orchard.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Good question Sieghard, 
> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case where 
> all that is desired. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
> wrote:
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
> controller?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
> phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread Robert Doc Wright 
you didn't find it near the volume up button on the left side of the phone?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 9:47 AM
  Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?


  Harry,
  How are you starting speak screen in Kindle? It works in Apple's Books 
app, but without a status bar, I cannot get speak screen to launch. I turned 
on the speech controller, and set it to 62% but never found it.




  Richard, USA

  “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
get it.”

  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth



  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/







On Dec 28, 2023, at 2:36 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on 
iPhone 15 pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page, 
refusing to turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any 
suggestions about how to fix it?
Thanks
Harry


  On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:



  Hello Gentlemen,



  There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be 
most helpful.



  1.

  Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it 
cannot read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a 
big fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start 
Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options 
similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.



  2.

  Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle 
books via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed 
Wired Ear Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, 
one has to use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa. 
There are many scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for 
example, if iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.



  Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the 
Kindel app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first 
choice, if given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading 
Kindle books with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has 
offered in over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now 
actively causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my 
beloved Alexa.



  So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech 
controller an essential treat in the Apple orchard.



  Mark



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech 
Screen controller in iOS 17.2?



  Good question Sieghard,

  I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of 
speak screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something 
lengthy. But speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the 
status bar... In the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on 
with VoiceOver caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a 
specific case where all that is desired.





  Richard, USA

  “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
get it.”

  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth



  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/











  On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
 wrote:

  Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this 
speech controller?



  -Original Message-

  From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright

  Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM

  To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech 
Screen controller in iOS 17.2?



  Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 
52%  I found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of 
the phone.

  - Original Message -

  From: "M. Taylor" 

  To: 

  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM

  Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?





  Hello All,



  I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot 
locate the Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please 
do the following on your iOS 17.2 device:

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread Richard Turner 
Harry,
How are you starting speak screen in Kindle? It works in Apple's Books app, but 
without a status bar, I cannot get speak screen to launch. I turned on the 
speech controller, and set it to 62% but never found it. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 28, 2023, at 2:36 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 
> 15 pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
> about how to fix it?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gentlemen,
>> 
>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start 
>> Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options 
>> similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
>> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>> 
>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
>> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
>> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
>> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
>> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
>> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
>> 
>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller 
>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Good question Sieghard,
>> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
>> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
>> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
>> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
>> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case 
>> where all that is desired.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
>> wrote:
>> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
>> controller?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
>> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
>> phone.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
>> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
>> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
>> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Enable Speak Selection.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Enable Speak Screen.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
>> 
>> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a 
>> list view, such as the

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-28 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to turn 
the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions about 
how to fix it? 
Thanks
Harry

> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentlemen,
> 
> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
> helpful.
> 
> 1.
> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big fan 
> of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles while on 
> the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start Siri 
> playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options similar 
> to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
> 
> 2.
> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if iPhone 
> locks or another app grabs focus.
> 
> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
> 
> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller an 
> essential treat in the Apple orchard.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Good question Sieghard, 
> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case where 
> all that is desired. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
> wrote:
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
> controller?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
> phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a 
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to 
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen 
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-27 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Gentlemen,

There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
helpful.

1.
Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big fan 
of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles while on 
the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start Siri 
playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options similar to 
those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.

2.
Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books via 
the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear Pods 
playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to use 
Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if iPhone 
locks or another app grabs focus.

Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books with 
more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in over two 
years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively causes the 
Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.

So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller an 
essential treat in the Apple orchard.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Good question Sieghard, 
I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver caused 
more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case where all that 
is desired. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 




On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
controller?

-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the phone.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller 
in iOS 17.2?


Hello All,

I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
following on your iOS 17.2 device:

1.
>From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.

2.
Enable Speak Selection.

3.
Enable Speak Screen.

4.
Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.

Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a list 
view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to work.

There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen but, 
try as I may, I cannot find them.

By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.

All replies most appreciated.

Mark


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Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-27 Thread Richard Turner 
Good question Sieghard, 
I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver caused 
more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case where all that 
is desired. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
> controller?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
> phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a 
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to 
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen 
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
controller?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the phone.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller 
in iOS 17.2?


Hello All,

I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
following on your iOS 17.2 device:

1.
>From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.

2.
Enable Speak Selection.

3.
Enable Speak Screen.

4.
Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.

Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a list 
view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to work.

There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen but, 
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All replies most appreciated.

Mark


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RE: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-26 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Harry,

Thank you for your post.  Fortunately, list member, Robert, was able to locate 
the solution.  Please see his post that appears in this thread.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Mark,  you are quite right - this feature no longer works! 
Time to report to Apple
Harry

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 06:05, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot 
> locate the Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  
> Please do the following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box 
> in a list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the 
> feature to work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the 
> screen but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-26 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Robert,

Thank you so very much.  

I had neglected to adjust the opaqueness of the speaking bar.  The setting is 
labeled Idle Opacity and I neglected to read the description that follows the 
adjustment control.  

To be honest, but for your post, I don't think I would have ever associated the 
opacity setting of the control with my inability to locate the control on the 
screen.  I set my idle opacity to 100% and now the control is easily located.

Thank you, again.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?

Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the phone.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller 
in iOS 17.2?


Hello All,

I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
following on your iOS 17.2 device:

1.
>From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.

2.
Enable Speak Selection.

3.
Enable Speak Screen.

4.
Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.

Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a list 
view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to work.

There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen but, 
try as I may, I cannot find them.

By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.

All replies most appreciated.

Mark


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Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-26 Thread Robert Doc Wright 
Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
phone.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
controller in iOS 17.2?


Hello All,

I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the
Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the
following on your iOS 17.2 device:

1.
>From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.

2.
Enable Speak Selection.

3.
Enable Speak Screen.

4.
Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.

Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a
list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to
work.

There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen
but, try as I may, I cannot find them.

By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.

All replies most appreciated.

Mark


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Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-25 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Mark,  you are quite right - this feature no longer works! 
Time to report to Apple
Harry

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 06:05, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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