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Having been born blind, photography was something I thought I would never do! Then came the iPhone, with its accessibility. I played a little, but then my grandson was born in February of this year. I now take photos often, and most photos on my phone are pics of him, taken by Grandpa! I've even posted my own pics on Facebook, and one of my photos of my grandson is now my profile picture on FB. Keith Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm
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Way to Grandpa! I'm waiting and waiting and waighting but neither one of my two children has found that right one yet. They better hurry though. This old man is already 65 and time's-a-wasting! grin - Original Message - From: Keith Bundy To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Having been born blind, photography was something I thought I would never do! Then came the iPhone, with its accessibility. I played a little, but then my grandson was born in February of this year. I now take photos often, and most photos on my phone are pics of him, taken by Grandpa! I've even posted my own pics on Facebook, and one of my photos of my grandson is now my profile picture on FB. Keith Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia
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Q: why can't we have the subscribe address so we can do it the email route? Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Cara I followed the link to the photography group that you started. I can't find where to join. Could you please send me the direct link to join? Taking pics is one of my fave hobbies,, or it use to be, until I lost my sight a year ago. I want to get back into pic taking, but the lack of confidence and having to rely on a sighted person to edit my pics is what is holding me back. I'm hoping that the group will help to draw me out of my shell. Donna Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired… Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua
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To subscribe, send a message to blindphotography+subscr...@googlegroups.com Notice the plus sign between the group name and the word subscribe. Copying and pasting blindphotography+subscr...@googlegroups.com into the to field should work.. Michael -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH! Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 2:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Q: why can't we have the subscribe address so we can do it the email route? Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Cara I followed the link to the photography group that you started. I can't find where to join. Could you please send me the direct link to join? Taking pics is one of my fave hobbies,, or it use to be, until I lost my sight a year ago. I want to get back into pic taking, but the lack of confidence and having to rely on a sighted person to edit my pics is what is holding me back. I'm hoping that the group will help to draw me out of my shell. Donna Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired. Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers. For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time. Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor. There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!. Smiles
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Thank you Michael, for posting this. I needed to step away from the lists for a bit so I sure do appreciate you sharing the subscription address. If anyone has any more questions or concerns on the new list or how to subscribe, please do email me privately so as not to go off-topic for this list. K? Thank you all so much and I look forward to discussing iDevices here and general VI / blind photography on the new list. Thanks All, Cara :) On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Michael Malver mmal...@gmail.com wrote: To subscribe, send a message to blindphotography+subscr...@googlegroups.com Notice the plus sign between the group name and the word subscribe. Copying and pasting blindphotography+subscr...@googlegroups.com into the to field should work.. Michael -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH! Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 2:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Q: why can't we have the subscribe address so we can do it the email route? Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Donna merma...@bellsouth.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Cara I followed the link to the photography group that you started. I can't find where to join. Could you please send me the direct link to join? Taking pics is one of my fave hobbies,, or it use to be, until I lost my sight a year ago. I want to get back into pic taking, but the lack of confidence and having to rely on a sighted person to edit my pics is what is holding me back. I'm hoping that the group will help to draw me out of my shell. Donna Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired. Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers. For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time. Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor. There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread
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Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's yard. Part of the deal is a micro photographer is to go close up with the subject/object of whatever you photographing. So, i did a lot of crazy stuff, includes laying on the floor in a quite busy footpath, trying to capture the foot prints of foot trafics when they went pass on the floor, to almost kissing the wall, trying to capture the very texture of the wall etc etc. To cut the story short, we did have an exhibition on the state library, it went for a month. 8 out of the 12 participants continued the project after the first workshop, and 8 of us do stay on the project till the end. When i did the project, i often doubting myself, and my ability as a blind person to take photos, and the quality of the photos. Soon i learn, it doesn't matter. Even if i took a photo of the garbage bin, (one of my better short) it gave a different prospective to others. When i got disappointed and discourage by the comments from the public, i know, when, i was most determine that i want to continue on the project. Now, almost 17 month has pass since we started the project, and almost 11 months pass since the project ended. We are now, talking about finding ways to fund the project, to have the second short in the dark project for more blind and vision impaired people. Although it seems weird, or, you may have get lots of weird comments about you, as a blind person taking photo, but, just remember, you are not alone.Joanne Chua Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate. On 05/06/2013, at 3:55, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see
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I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's yard. Part of the deal is a micro photographer is to go close up with the subject/object of whatever you photographing. So, i did a lot of crazy stuff, includes laying on the floor in a quite busy footpath, trying to capture the foot prints of foot trafics when they went pass on the floor, to almost kissing the wall, trying to capture the very texture of the wall etc etc. To cut the story short, we did have an exhibition on the state library, it went for a month. 8 out of the 12 participants continued the project after the first workshop, and 8 of us do stay on the project till the end. When i did the project, i often doubting myself, and my ability as a blind person to take photos, and the quality of the photos. Soon i learn, it doesn't matter. Even if i took a photo of the garbage bin, (one of my better short) it gave a different prospective to others. When i got disappointed and discourage by the comments from the public, i know, when, i was most determine that i want to continue on the project. Now, almost 17 month has pass since we started the project, and almost 11 months pass since the project ended. We are now, talking about finding ways to fund the project, to have the second short in the dark project for more blind and vision impaired people. Although it seems weird, or, you may have get lots of weird comments about you, as a blind person taking photo, but, just remember, you are not alone.Joanne Chua Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate. On 05/06/2013, at 3:55, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger
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Wow, at first I thought that the chicken was offering herself as a KFC dinner. -- Raul A. Gallegos A photon checks into a hotel. When asked if he needed any help with his luggage he replied No thanks, I Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 3:56 PM, Crystal French wrote: I wonder how many of us have not thought at some time,’I wish I could take a picture.’ A few days ago, Ethel, one of my hens, had gotten up on a chair where I had set a cast iron skillet. She had settled herself happily in the frying pan, chirring softly, probably talking about the egg she was going to lay. When I realized where she was, I started laughing and wished I could get a picture of her. Rather than assuming I couldn’t, I wish I had, at least, tried. Oh, and for clarification, Ethel, chair, and skillet were on the porch, not in my kitchen. smile Crystal *From:* Cara Quinn mailto:modelc...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:41 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any
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Bite your tongue, Raul. We never say “drumstick” around here. Crystal From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Wow, at first I thought that the chicken was offering herself as a KFC dinner. -- Raul A. Gallegos A photon checks into a hotel. When asked if he needed any help with his luggage he replied No thanks, I Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 3:56 PM, Crystal French wrote: I wonder how many of us have not thought at some time,’I wish I could take a picture.’ A few days ago, Ethel, one of my hens, had gotten up on a chair where I had set a cast iron skillet. She had settled herself happily in the frying pan, chirring softly, probably talking about the egg she was going to lay. When I realized where she was, I started laughing and wished I could get a picture of her. Rather than assuming I couldn’t, I wish I had, at least, tried. Oh, and for clarification, Ethel, chair, and skillet were on the porch, not in my kitchen. smile Crystal *From:* Cara Quinn mailto:modelc...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:41 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help
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Sense I got my iPhone, I have decided I love taking pictures. Why? Because I can take as many as I like and only keep the good ones. Granted most all get deleted but it's surprising how many I do get that are keepers. One that comes to mind was 1 picture I took of my dog. I had been taking a few family pictures and had my phone in my hands. My dog was going to follow me in the house and I turned and fired and by good old blind dumb luck got a beautiful picture of him looking up at me. I got another great shot of Old faithful in Yellowstone National Park. The key thing I found I need to remember is where the camera lens is.I delete far more pictures then I keep but it doesn't matter either. As the old saying goes, even a blind squirrel comes across a nut every now and then. grin - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect
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Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's yard. Part of the deal is a micro photographer is to go close up with the subject/object of whatever you photographing. So, i did a lot of crazy stuff, includes laying on the floor in a quite busy footpath, trying to capture the foot prints of foot trafics when they went pass on the floor, to almost kissing the wall, trying to capture the very texture of the wall etc etc. To cut the story short, we did have an exhibition on the state library, it went for a month. 8 out of the 12 participants continued the project
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I know, right?! lol! All I could think of when reading that awesome post was that a cute caption of something like 'Fried Chicken' would be hilarious! And this is coming from a vegetarian here! lol! The note made me want to not only hug the awesomely cute lil' hen but Crystal for sharing such a super cute story! :) Thanks so much Crystal for sharing! Send a hug to Ethel, K? :) Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Wow, at first I thought that the chicken was offering herself as a KFC dinner. -- Raul A. Gallegos A photon checks into a hotel. When asked if he needed any help with his luggage he replied No thanks, I Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 3:56 PM, Crystal French wrote: I wonder how many of us have not thought at some time,’I wish I could take a picture.’ A few days ago, Ethel, one of my hens, had gotten up on a chair where I had set a cast iron skillet. She had settled herself happily in the frying pan, chirring softly, probably talking about the egg she was going to lay. When I realized where she was, I started laughing and wished I could get a picture of her. Rather than assuming I couldn’t, I wish I had, at least, tried. Oh, and for clarification, Ethel, chair, and skillet were on the porch, not in my kitchen. smile Crystal *From:* Cara Quinn mailto:modelc...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:41 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right
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You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's yard. Part of the deal
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accessible...@googlegroups.com is open to new subjects like this one. we just had a thread about blind bikers,... still ride them! go figure (as they say). Rh. - Original Message - From: Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 7:01 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD
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Agree with every word, this is about how I doi t, worth the rest to get the odd one, the odder the better as a rule. Getting someone to evaluate takes a little longer. Rh. - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Sense I got my iPhone, I have decided I love taking pictures. Why? Because I can take as many as I like and only keep the good ones. Granted most all get deleted but it's surprising how many I do get that are keepers. One that comes to mind was 1 picture I took of my dog. I had been taking a few family pictures and had my phone in my hands. My dog was going to follow me in the house and I turned and fired and by good old blind dumb luck got a beautiful picture of him looking up at me. I got another great shot of Old faithful in Yellowstone National Park. The key thing I found I need to remember is where the camera lens is.I delete far more pictures then I keep but it doesn't matter either. As the old saying goes, even a blind squirrel comes across a nut every now and then. grin - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get
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Of course, FaceBookers can share such gems there. - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 6:52 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind I know, right?! lol! All I could think of when reading that awesome post was that a cute caption of something like 'Fried Chicken' would be hilarious! And this is coming from a vegetarian here! lol! The note made me want to not only hug the awesomely cute lil' hen but Crystal for sharing such a super cute story! :) Thanks so much Crystal for sharing! Send a hug to Ethel, K? :) Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Wow, at first I thought that the chicken was offering herself as a KFC dinner. -- Raul A. Gallegos A photon checks into a hotel. When asked if he needed any help with his luggage he replied No thanks, I Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 3:56 PM, Crystal French wrote: I wonder how many of us have not thought at some time,’I wish I could take a picture.’ A few days ago, Ethel, one of my hens, had gotten up on a chair where I had set a cast iron skillet. She had settled herself happily in the frying pan, chirring softly, probably talking about the egg she was going to lay. When I realized where she was, I started laughing and wished I could get a picture of her. Rather than assuming I couldn’t, I wish I had, at least, tried. Oh, and for clarification, Ethel, chair, and skillet were on the porch, not in my kitchen. smile Crystal *From:* Cara Quinn mailto:modelc...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:41 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone
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Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired… Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen
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To put it very simply, it's just fun. And, if you get a great shot, all the better. If not, have at it again! - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal story a little. early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne Australia. After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special exhibition, happen in the state library of South Australia, Australia. The idea of the exhibition is to exhibit about things that blind people cann and can't see, using the art of micro photograph, (close up photos). I must have took about 5000 photos or more, i think i gone thru 3 x 4gb SD Cards in the period of 6 weeks. It was odd, whenever i go, i'll have the camera with me, and a guidedog. So, often, i get people came up to me and ask me if i need help, or, some, even questioning if i took someone's camera, or lost, or, one to the extent as i'm really blind, and if i got a guidedog that is escape from someone's yard. Part of the deal is a micro photographer is to go close up with the subject/object of whatever you
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Hi Cara and all Wow, what an amezing discussion we have about IOS camera and blind photographe. Thanks Cara for creating the group. Just join. :) I know there are some apps available to help a blind person navigating the digital camera or DSLR camera menu using voice over. One was been release sometime last year, however, needing to pull out as there are too many errors that needing to fix and keeping on trial. I'll try to find some more information about it and post it to the viphone and also the blind photographer list later. Great discussion from all. :) Joanne Chua Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate. On 06/06/2013, at 5:15, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired… Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent
Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind
Hi Cara I followed the link to the photography group that you started. I can't find where to join. Could you please send me the direct link to join? Taking pics is one of my fave hobbies,, or it use to be, until I lost my sight a year ago. I want to get back into pic taking, but the lack of confidence and having to rely on a sighted person to edit my pics is what is holding me back. I'm hoping that the group will help to draw me out of my shell. Donna Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired… Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down that low to take it or I might not have got up again. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of you if i share my personal
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Hi. just joined. I don't own a digital camera but I do have an ipad and iphone. I have tried to take pics with a bit of help. Kind of get a buzz when they work. God Bless! Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1...@gmail.com will get you fb as well as email iMessage. skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Cara I followed the link to the photography group that you started. I can't find where to join. Could you please send me the direct link to join? Taking pics is one of my fave hobbies,, or it use to be, until I lost my sight a year ago. I want to get back into pic taking, but the lack of confidence and having to rely on a sighted person to edit my pics is what is holding me back. I'm hoping that the group will help to draw me out of my shell. Donna Hi All, For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group at: http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :) Please feel free to come on in and continue this great discussion! This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired… Enjoy and see y'all there! Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere that those of us interested could talk more about it. Any tips, thought and discussion would be neat. I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for this subject would be quite popular. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not take attachments. And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced us as photographers… For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :) So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience taking photos, perhaps for the first time… Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd take with the instructor / class. I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love to! :) Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively? Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for sharing!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get putting the camera to your face. With on screen images, even the sighted don't need to do this any more. Can I post a picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a reaction. Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down
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Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
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Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: taking photos when blind
hi, The camera got the auto focus function. That means, it will try to focus the picture before it take the shot. Joanne Chua Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate. On 05/06/2013, at 3:55, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
Re: taking photos when blind
Well, the device is auto-focus and it says when focussed. But aiming is a trial and error thing, I snap several and slightly different angles sideways and vertically, then take them to eyes for evaluation. I usually get the target, all bit it a bit ascue. - Original Message - From: Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com
Re: taking photos when blind
Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone
Re: taking photos when blind
Yes Cara, that is extremely helpful. Thanks for your advice. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 3:41 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
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I wonder how many of us have not thought at some time,’I wish I could take a picture.’ A few days ago, Ethel, one of my hens, had gotten up on a chair where I had set a cast iron skillet. She had settled herself happily in the frying pan, chirring softly, probably talking about the egg she was going to lay. When I realized where she was, I started laughing and wished I could get a picture of her. Rather than assuming I couldn’t, I wish I had, at least, tried. Oh, and for clarification, Ethel, chair, and skillet were on the porch, not in my kitchen. smile Crystal From: Cara Quinn Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi Robert, Voiceover will tell you when the image is focused but not centered. When the camera recognizes a face, then I believe that VO will say where that face is in the frame, but for objects in general, VO will not be able at present, to tell you where that object is in the frame, simply because it does not know what object you are aiming at. the idea of focus is different from when an object is centered or not. Focus means that the subject of the image is being seen clearly by the camera so it will produce a clear image when the shot is taken. Does this make sense? The two concepts are different… HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote: Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centered. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone
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If you're using the iPhone 5, VO will tell you if there's a face in focus. It will say something like Large or small face. The trick here is to hold the phone still and wait long enough, not always easy with wiggly kids or dogs. grin. Chocolate is the answer... who cares what the question is! Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com - Original Message - From: RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Well, the device is auto-focus and it says when focussed. But aiming is a trial and error thing, I snap several and slightly different angles sideways and vertically, then take them to eyes for evaluation. I usually get the target, all bit it a bit ascue. - Original Message - From: Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hello: This discussion about taking pictures when totally blind interests me. How does one focus the image correctly? I read somewhere that VoiceOver is supposed to tell you when the image is centred. I have never seen that happen. Thanks for your help. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-04, at 2:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello Sieghard. yes of course. I must have been using my iPhone up-side-down. grin. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting that sometimes jailbreak tweaks add things which one gets used to and then one uses them as if they had always been there. -- Raul A. Gallegos I love strawberry Quik. It's my favorite pink fluid narrowly beating out Pepto-Bismol. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/4/2013 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, just a small correction, it is the volume up button that takes the picture. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, one thing which helps with iPhone picture taking is pressing the volume down button also simulates the shutter button. So you don't have to worry about moving the phone out of focus when double-tapping the take picture button at the bottom center of the screen or doing a 2-finger double-tap. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 6/1/2013 7:31 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id55398 1192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
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I've found that on my iPhone 4S, if you're using the back camera, you can use the up volume button to take the picture. It'll be on the bottom left, I think. If you're using the front facing camera, I think it would be bottom right. Si - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 8:31 PM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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It is worthy of note that, one of the real volume buttons act as shutter button to take a picture without tapping the screen, and learning to face a camera without putting it to the head is worth doing, like pointing a finger; totals who have never seen, tend not to point their eyes in the right direction, since they never got to practice that. Keeping fingers out the way of the lense is a big thing, even sighted can do that, though they see it on screen of course. But in the old days when you couldn't, they would. I try this, like shooting from the hip, if you can reliably point the camera in the right direction from any position, you can do it more discretely, quicker and take more interesting pictures. Discretion is useful, putting a camera to the face is a sighted thing, looks bad if you do that and wave a hwite stick. Actually, for BrailleTouch users who put the phone flat against their front, it is ready to shoot a pretty straight picture from that position. Hummmnmnmnm,... Ok, if you use the front facing camera, turn it screen into the chest/front to use the other back lense. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group
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A specialist item to look out for, but if they made (And goodness knows there are funnier products out there than this!), but a camera built into a pen, like a ballpoint case, lense in the end; it would make an ideal pointer and thus help blind photography no end. Further, and I know we're moving away from the iPhone, but you can get specs mounted cameras which are already suitably alligned and they are discrete as the activating button is on a remote in your pocket. These are pseudo-spyware and can be quite cheap, but still functional. Cameras and sound recorders can appear in almost anything these days. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: taking photos when blind
You have to be mindfulb of where the lens is or the pictures will be off centre when using the back camera. This is my biggest challenge to take pictures. Caitlyn Sent from Caitlyn's I phone On 2 Jun 2013, at 03:56, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: It is worthy of note that, one of the real volume buttons act as shutter button to take a picture without tapping the screen, and learning to face a camera without putting it to the head is worth doing, like pointing a finger; totals who have never seen, tend not to point their eyes in the right direction, since they never got to practice that. Keeping fingers out the way of the lense is a big thing, even sighted can do that, though they see it on screen of course. But in the old days when you couldn't, they would. I try this, like shooting from the hip, if you can reliably point the camera in the right direction from any position, you can do it more discretely, quicker and take more interesting pictures. Discretion is useful, putting a camera to the face is a sighted thing, looks bad if you do that and wave a hwite stick. Actually, for BrailleTouch users who put the phone flat against their front, it is ready to shoot a pretty straight picture from that position. Hummmnmnmnm,... Ok, if you use the front facing camera, turn it screen into the chest/front to use the other back lense. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: taking photos when blind
Thanks very much for the tips about the volume buttons, never know they can act as shutter. and there're some very good tips that i'll definitely try myself. another good one that another professional blind photographer taught me was to use your chest and body as a tripod. it is weird, sepcially if you taking serious photo with serious camera, and having a guidedog/cane with you at the same time. But that help to stabelise the photos without using any tripod or anything. I assume, such technic will work with the phone as well, ohwever, i haven't try it myself. If you interested in doing self photographing, a good tip is to stretch out your arm up straight in front of you. if you are totally blind, try to have the camera pointing the way that is a little pointing downwards, rather than pointing upward. in hat angle, you usually have more than half a chance to taking your upper body, without too much of an empty space. of course, that won't really work in a group photographic suitation. CheersSent from my iPad On 02/06/2013, at 17:56, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: It is worthy of note that, one of the real volume buttons act as shutter button to take a picture without tapping the screen, and learning to face a camera without putting it to the head is worth doing, like pointing a finger; totals who have never seen, tend not to point their eyes in the right direction, since they never got to practice that. Keeping fingers out the way of the lense is a big thing, even sighted can do that, though they see it on screen of course. But in the old days when you couldn't, they would. I try this, like shooting from the hip, if you can reliably point the camera in the right direction from any position, you can do it more discretely, quicker and take more interesting pictures. Discretion is useful, putting a camera to the face is a sighted thing, looks bad if you do that and wave a hwite stick. Actually, for BrailleTouch users who put the phone flat against their front, it is ready to shoot a pretty straight picture from that position. Hummmnmnmnm,... Ok, if you use the front facing camera, turn it screen into the chest/front to use the other back lense. RobH. - Original Message - From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: taking photos when blind Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you
Re: taking photos when blind
Hi, Not sure if such apps exist, however, there are technics you can use that will give you reasonable result with whatever you are photographing. It can use in both iphones and also digital camera. I'm not sure what device you have, let say, you using an iphone. if you taking picture of something, try to aline it on your forhead, as if, your eyes become the camera lance. So, whatever you see will be what will be the camera sees. If you can picture yourself in front of the object or the subject you photographing of, you usually have 80% chance of taking it in a line as your eye sees it. It is much easier using a camera, however, using it on an iphone help as well. However, using an iphone does require a lot of practice, as the take picture button is on the sscreen. Another tip, place the phone slitely left to your eye, or to your forehead, as the lance of the back facing camera is on the top right side of the camera. however, if you using the front facing camera, its on the top middle. Again, it takes a lot of practice to get use to, but you'll eventually get there. Hope this help. I hope this help. Regards JoanneSent from my iPad On 01/06/2013, at 5:07, James Lockwood lockwoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: taking photos when blind
Hi James, Apart from face detection in the stock camera app I am not aware of anything like that. I think the problem would be for the app to know what you want to take a picture of. If it's a smaller item against a contrasting background it might be done, but if you are trying to take a picture of a particular item against a background with other stuff it would be difficult. The Standscan works in some cases for items smaller than a piece of paper and not too thick/high. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Lockwood Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:07 PM To: iphone group Subject: taking photos when blind Ok. does anyone know of an application for the iphone that gives feedback about when an item you are taking a picture of is centered ect? the camera sometimes does it with faces already. but is there any program out there which helps people who are completely blind take good or reasonably good photos without the object being half off the screen or off center drastically? http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jim-lockwood-shows-podcast/id553981192 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
