Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread Vicky Collins
If memory serves, my brother got a message saying the app wasn't 
compatible when he tried to restore from an iPhone 4 to the new 
iPad.  He has a flashlight app on the iPhone that wouldn't work 
with the iPad; thus, although other apps were restored, that one 
wasn't.  Oh, yes, I updated my iPhone 4S to iOS 6 over the air, 
and I, too, lose VoiceOver when I have to do the power and home 
button reset.  Thus, although I thought I was through with it for 
good, I had to install iTunes to get VoiceOver working again.


- Original Message -
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:06:46 +1300
Subject: Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of 
VoiceOver


Yes, as far as I know, you can restore from any iOS device to any 
other iOS device.  I don't know what happens to device specific 
apps such as those specifically for iPad.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 06/10/2012, at 6:11, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo..edu wrote:


Thanks for this.

I'm moving from an iPodTouch 4th Gen to an iPhone 5, when the 
phone comes..


Will this approach work for that, too, or whill I need to do 
something different? I mena, can I restore from an iPodtouch 
backup to a new iPhone to synck my apps, etc?


Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of 
VoiceOver


I restored my new iPhone 5 today to get it synced with my iTunes 
and apps because using iCloud would not restore my music (I do 
not currently subscribe to music match), and iCloud was going to 
take a very long time.


First, go in to settings, iCloud, and turn off iCloud sync.

1) Launch iTunes.
2) Plug iPhone in to computer USB port
3) Sync should start automatically.  If not, activate the sync 
button
4) After sync is complete, on the summary tab, find the restore 
iPhone button and activate it
5) After iTunes connects to Apple, select yes to back up your 
current settings

6) Agree to the terms.
7) ITunes will download the latest iOS software.  When complete, 
the software will be installed on your iOS device.  This will 
take some time.  Leave the iOS device alone and let the 
upgrade/restore take its time.
8) When finished, your iOS device will be restarted and a pop-up 
will notify you that the device is restarting.
9) Once the device is restarted and connected to iTunes again, 
you will be asked if it is a new device, or restore from back-up.  
Though my iPhone 5 is a new phone, I selected restore from 
back-up.  I then chose the second most recent back-up as that was 
the one for my old iPhone 4.
10) I had to leave my iPhone connected for a couple hours whilst 
my 20 GB of data: apps, music, and general info, were all loaded 
on to my iPhone.


Everything loaded including my folder structure.  Unfortunately, 
my bookshare books did not load.  I must have screwed that part 
up when I cancelled the iCloud update.  Everything else moved 
across without a hitch including my folder structure.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/10/2012, at 13:43, Kathy Blackburn 
kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:


I can usually handle updating software on my Windows machine or 
on my BrailleNote, but I am a klutz when it comes to major IOS 
updates.  The update from IOS 4 to 5 went badly, as did the one 
from 5 to 6.  Restore from back-up did not bring back my apps; I 
had to put them back on manually and then re-create the folders 
and move the apps into them so the phone would be organized the 
way I want.  I am losing faith in the process and in myself.
So, from here on in, I'll just have to remember not to re-boot 
the phone unless I'm home and can connect to the PC.


Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

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Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-08 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, it is definitely better to upgrade the firmware using a computer rather 
than over the air.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/10/2012, at 7:44, Vicky Collins v-coll...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 If memory serves, my brother got a message saying the app wasn't compatible 
 when he tried to restore from an iPhone 4 to the new iPad.  He has a 
 flashlight app on the iPhone that wouldn't work with the iPad; thus, although 
 other apps were restored, that one wasn't.  Oh, yes, I updated my iPhone 4S 
 to iOS 6 over the air, and I, too, lose VoiceOver when I have to do the power 
 and home button reset.  Thus, although I thought I was through with it for 
 good, I had to install iTunes to get VoiceOver working again.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:06:46 +1300
 Subject: Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver
 
 Yes, as far as I know, you can restore from any iOS device to any other iOS 
 device.  I don't know what happens to device specific apps such as those 
 specifically for iPad.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 06/10/2012, at 6:11, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo..edu wrote:
 
 Thanks for this.
 
 I'm moving from an iPodTouch 4th Gen to an iPhone 5, when the phone comes..
 
 Will this approach work for that, too, or whill I need to do something 
 different? I mena, can I restore from an iPodtouch backup to a new iPhone to 
 synck my apps, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 David Chittenden
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver
 
 I restored my new iPhone 5 today to get it synced with my iTunes and apps 
 because using iCloud would not restore my music (I do not currently subscribe 
 to music match), and iCloud was going to take a very long time.
 
 First, go in to settings, iCloud, and turn off iCloud sync.
 
 1) Launch iTunes.
 2) Plug iPhone in to computer USB port
 3) Sync should start automatically.  If not, activate the sync button
 4) After sync is complete, on the summary tab, find the restore iPhone button 
 and activate it
 5) After iTunes connects to Apple, select yes to back up your current settings
 6) Agree to the terms.
 7) ITunes will download the latest iOS software.  When complete, the software 
 will be installed on your iOS device.  This will take some time.  Leave the 
 iOS device alone and let the upgrade/restore take its time.
 8) When finished, your iOS device will be restarted and a pop-up will notify 
 you that the device is restarting.
 9) Once the device is restarted and connected to iTunes again, you will be 
 asked if it is a new device, or restore from back-up.  Though my iPhone 5 is 
 a new phone, I selected restore from back-up.  I then chose the second most 
 recent back-up as that was the one for my old iPhone 4.
 10) I had to leave my iPhone connected for a couple hours whilst my 20 GB of 
 data: apps, music, and general info, were all loaded on to my iPhone.
 
 Everything loaded including my folder structure.  Unfortunately, my bookshare 
 books did not load.  I must have screwed that part up when I cancelled the 
 iCloud update.  Everything else moved across without a hitch including my 
 folder structure.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/10/2012, at 13:43, Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 
 I can usually handle updating software on my Windows machine or on my 
 BrailleNote, but I am a klutz when it comes to major IOS updates.  The update 
 from IOS 4 to 5 went badly, as did the one from 5 to 6.  Restore from back-up 
 did not bring back my apps; I had to put them back on manually and then 
 re-create the folders and move the apps into them so the phone would be 
 organized the way I want.  I am losing faith in the process and in myself.
 So, from here on in, I'll just have to remember not to re-boot the phone 
 unless I'm home and can connect to the PC.
 
 Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com
 
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RE: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-05 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks for this.

I'm moving from an iPodTouch 4th Gen to an iPhone 5, when the phone comes.

Will this approach work for that, too, or whill I need to do something 
different? I mena, can I restore from an iPodtouch backup to a new iPhone to 
synck my apps, etc?

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

I restored my new iPhone 5 today to get it synced with my iTunes and apps 
because using iCloud would not restore my music (I do not currently subscribe 
to music match), and iCloud was going to take a very long time.

First, go in to settings, iCloud, and turn off iCloud sync.

1) Launch iTunes.
2) Plug iPhone in to computer USB port
3) Sync should start automatically. If not, activate the sync button
4) After sync is complete, on the summary tab, find the restore iPhone button 
and activate it
5) After iTunes connects to Apple, select yes to back up your current settings
6) Agree to the terms.
7) ITunes will download the latest iOS software. When complete, the software 
will be installed on your iOS device. This will take some time. Leave the iOS 
device alone and let the upgrade/restore take its time.
8) When finished, your iOS device will be restarted and a pop-up will notify 
you that the device is restarting.
9) Once the device is restarted and connected to iTunes again, you will be 
asked if it is a new device, or restore from back-up. Though my iPhone 5 is a 
new phone, I selected restore from back-up. I then chose the second most recent 
back-up as that was the one for my old iPhone 4.
10) I had to leave my iPhone connected for a couple hours whilst my 20 GB of 
data: apps, music, and general info, were all loaded on to my iPhone.

Everything loaded including my folder structure. Unfortunately, my bookshare 
books did not load. I must have screwed that part up when I cancelled the 
iCloud update. Everything else moved across without a hitch including my folder 
structure.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/10/2012, at 13:43, Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I can usually handle updating software on my Windows machine or on my 
 BrailleNote, but I am a klutz when it comes to major IOS updates.  The update 
 from IOS 4 to 5 went badly, as did the one from 5 to 6. Restore from back-up 
 did not bring back my apps; I had to put them back on manually and then 
 re-create the folders and move the apps into them so the phone would be 
 organized the way I want.  I am losing faith in the process and in myself.
 So, from here on in, I'll just have to remember not to re-boot the phone 
 unless I'm home and can connect to the PC.
 
 Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com
 
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Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-05 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, as far as I know, you can restore from any iOS device to any other iOS 
device. I don't know what happens to device specific apps such as those 
specifically for iPad. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 06/10/2012, at 6:11, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Thanks for this.
 
 I'm moving from an iPodTouch 4th Gen to an iPhone 5, when the phone comes.
 
 Will this approach work for that, too, or whill I need to do something 
 different? I mena, can I restore from an iPodtouch backup to a new iPhone to 
 synck my apps, etc?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 David Chittenden
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver
 
 I restored my new iPhone 5 today to get it synced with my iTunes and apps 
 because using iCloud would not restore my music (I do not currently subscribe 
 to music match), and iCloud was going to take a very long time.
 
 First, go in to settings, iCloud, and turn off iCloud sync.
 
 1) Launch iTunes.
 2) Plug iPhone in to computer USB port
 3) Sync should start automatically. If not, activate the sync button
 4) After sync is complete, on the summary tab, find the restore iPhone button 
 and activate it
 5) After iTunes connects to Apple, select yes to back up your current settings
 6) Agree to the terms.
 7) ITunes will download the latest iOS software. When complete, the software 
 will be installed on your iOS device. This will take some time. Leave the iOS 
 device alone and let the upgrade/restore take its time.
 8) When finished, your iOS device will be restarted and a pop-up will notify 
 you that the device is restarting.
 9) Once the device is restarted and connected to iTunes again, you will be 
 asked if it is a new device, or restore from back-up. Though my iPhone 5 is a 
 new phone, I selected restore from back-up. I then chose the second most 
 recent back-up as that was the one for my old iPhone 4.
 10) I had to leave my iPhone connected for a couple hours whilst my 20 GB of 
 data: apps, music, and general info, were all loaded on to my iPhone.
 
 Everything loaded including my folder structure. Unfortunately, my bookshare 
 books did not load. I must have screwed that part up when I cancelled the 
 iCloud update. Everything else moved across without a hitch including my 
 folder structure.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/10/2012, at 13:43, Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 
 I can usually handle updating software on my Windows machine or on my 
 BrailleNote, but I am a klutz when it comes to major IOS updates.  The 
 update from IOS 4 to 5 went badly, as did the one from 5 to 6. Restore from 
 back-up did not bring back my apps; I had to put them back on manually and 
 then re-create the folders and move the apps into them so the phone would be 
 organized the way I want.  I am losing faith in the process and in myself.
 So, from here on in, I'll just have to remember not to re-boot the phone 
 unless I'm home and can connect to the PC.
 
 Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com
 
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Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-04 Thread Scott Howell
Kathy,

I cannot imagine why this process has been difficult for you. Especially now 
with over the air updates, the process is much easier. I assume you are 
following the typical steps of first backing up your phone and then performing 
the update over the air?

On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I can usually handle updating software on my Windows machine or on my 
 BrailleNote, but I am a klutz when it comes to major IOS updates.  The update 
 from IOS 4 to 5 went badly, as did the one from 5 to 6. Restore from back-up 
 did not bring back my apps; I had to put them back on manually and then 
 re-create the folders and move the apps into them so the phone would be 
 organized the way I want.  I am losing faith in the process and in myself.
 So, from here on in, I'll just have to remember not to re-boot the phone 
 unless I'm home and can connect to the PC.
 
 Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com
 
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RE: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-04 Thread Joney
I decided to reboot my four today to see what happened and, sure enough,
Voice Over left the building.  LOL. Fortunately, since this happened shortly
after I got my phone a few years ago, I knew what to do.
You have to attach the phone to your computer, go into iTunes, click on
configure universal access, and check Voice Over.  
I don't know why it is doing it and am going to try again when I have a few
minutes to play if it leaves town again, but, this is how I fixed the
problem.
Hope this helps.

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Re: Should Reebooting an iPhone 4 cause loss of VoiceOver

2012-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
I restored my new iPhone 5 today to get it synced with my iTunes and apps 
because using iCloud would not restore my music (I do not currently subscribe 
to music match), and iCloud was going to take a very long time.

First, go in to settings, iCloud, and turn off iCloud sync.

1) Launch iTunes.
2) Plug iPhone in to computer USB port
3) Sync should start automatically. If not, activate the sync button
4) After sync is complete, on the summary tab, find the restore iPhone button 
and activate it
5) After iTunes connects to Apple, select yes to back up your current settings
6) Agree to the terms.
7) ITunes will download the latest iOS software. When complete, the software 
will be installed on your iOS device. This will take some time. Leave the iOS 
device alone and let the upgrade/restore take its time.
8) When finished, your iOS device will be restarted and a pop-up will notify 
you that the device is restarting.
9) Once the device is restarted and connected to iTunes again, you will be 
asked if it is a new device, or restore from back-up. Though my iPhone 5 is a 
new phone, I selected restore from back-up. I then chose the second most recent 
back-up as that was the one for my old iPhone 4.
10) I had to leave my iPhone connected for a couple hours whilst my 20 GB of 
data: apps, music, and general info, were all loaded on to my iPhone.

Everything loaded including my folder structure. Unfortunately, my bookshare 
books did not load. I must have screwed that part up when I cancelled the 
iCloud update. Everything else moved across without a hitch including my folder 
structure.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/10/2012, at 13:43, Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I can usually handle updating software on my Windows machine or on my 
 BrailleNote, but I am a klutz when it comes to major IOS updates.  The update 
 from IOS 4 to 5 went badly, as did the one from 5 to 6. Restore from back-up 
 did not bring back my apps; I had to put them back on manually and then 
 re-create the folders and move the apps into them so the phone would be 
 organized the way I want.  I am losing faith in the process and in myself.
 So, from here on in, I'll just have to remember not to re-boot the phone 
 unless I'm home and can connect to the PC.
 
 Kathy Blackburn
 kblac...@austin.rr.com
 
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