Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
A different techy might correct me, but chargers deliver different ampage levels for different size devices. The device will take whatever ampage it can handle, or all there is, if that is less. So, an iPhone is only going to take what it needs, the rest is superfluous and unused. The Apple iPhone chargers should provide the max the iPhone can take, cheaper ones probably less, and thus device would charge slower on those. That then means that device would charge faster when higher ampage is available, but not by as much as one might think. I.e: if an iPhone charger can give 2amps; and an iPad charger offer 5amps, you can't and shouldn't expect the iPhone to charge in less than half the time off the iPad charger. Those multi-charger units you can buy are the same except they can give 10-20amps, and have several usb slots to connect your devices to. Anybody to clarify or contradict this? Rh. - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the battery? Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than necessary. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would
Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
I think we are confusing a detail:- The battery pack device is what charges or is charged super-fast, it charges your devices normally. The charging circuit in your device controls that. - Original Message - From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:07 AM Subject: RE: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It Hi Arnold, Perhaps I am being as paranoid as you are but I wouldn't do it. If the charger was not designed for that battery, we know that fast charging causes overheating and, I fear, would certainly damage the battery in the short or medium term. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the battery? Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than necessary. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage
Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage tricks in the book. Then what does it matter if it takes 2 or 3 hours to recharge your big internal battery since you can plug it in over night once you get home or back to your hotel or whatever. The company is charging quite a premium for their 2 batteries as well. The article mentions the 3,000 MAH is $59.99 and the 10,000 MAH is $99.99. I can buy an Anker 3,000 MAH on Amazon.com for $19.99 and a 10,000 MAH for $25.99. If I really want power Anker has their new second Gen Astro Pro2 20,000 MAH battery on Amazon.com for $79.99. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It That's why you need that new Battery that I ordered recently, it charges your phone in 15 minutes. You will find the details in the archives. Kawal. On 22 Aug 2014, at 02:40 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, Mac computers have their strength, but Windows has caught up with some of the conveniences in many ways. If you use something like an Outlook.com account for contacts, email and calendars and OneDrive for documents the I think you would have much the same experience as Christopher said. Mind you some of the new continuity stuff that is coming with Yosemity and iOS 8 is probably beyond what is available in Windows, but then in some cases too much integration and all that could also have drawbacks. I already heard that new features like handoff in iOS 8 wil l of course mean more battery drainage as your iDevice constantly communicates with other compatible devices nearby. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It I recently bought my wife a new laptop running Windows 8. We created a Microsoft account for her and did
Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage tricks in the book. Then what does it matter if it takes 2 or 3 hours to recharge your big internal battery since you can plug it in over night once you get home or back to your hotel or whatever. The company is charging quite a premium for their 2 batteries as well. The article mentions the 3,000 MAH is $59.99 and the 10,000 MAH is $99.99. I can buy an Anker 3,000 MAH on Amazon.com for $19.99 and a 10,000 MAH for $25.99. If I really want power Anker has their new second Gen Astro Pro2 20,000 MAH battery on Amazon.com for $79.99. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It That's why you need that new Battery that I ordered recently, it charges your phone in 15 minutes. You will find the details in the archives. Kawal. On 22 Aug 2014, at 02:40 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, Mac computers have their strength, but Windows has caught up with some of the conveniences in many ways. If you use something like an Outlook.com account for contacts, email and calendars and OneDrive for documents the I think you would have much the same experience as Christopher said. Mind you some of the new continuity stuff that is coming with Yosemity and iOS 8 is probably beyond what is available in Windows, but then in some cases too much integration and all that could also have drawbacks. I already heard that new features like handoff in iOS 8 wil
Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the battery? Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than necessary. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage tricks in the book. Then what does it matter if it takes 2 or 3 hours to recharge your big internal battery since you can plug it in over night once you get home or back to your hotel or whatever. The company is charging quite a premium for their 2 batteries as well. The article mentions the 3,000 MAH is $59.99 and the 10,000 MAH is $99.99. I can buy an Anker 3,000 MAH on Amazon.com for $19.99 and a 10,000 MAH for $25.99. If I really want power Anker has their new second Gen Astro Pro2 20,000 MAH battery on Amazon.com for $79.99. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It That's why you need that new Battery that I ordered recently, it charges your phone in 15 minutes. You will find the details in the archives. Kawal. On 22 Aug 2014, at 02:40 am, Sieghard Weitzel
Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
I started in 2009 with the 3GS and I've never had any battery problems. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s! On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the battery? Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than necessary. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage tricks in the book. Then what does it matter if it takes 2 or 3 hours to recharge your big internal battery since you can plug it in over night once you get home or back to your hotel or whatever. The company is charging quite a premium for their 2 batteries as well. The article mentions the 3,000 MAH is $59.99 and the 10,000 MAH is $99.99. I can buy an Anker 3,000 MAH on Amazon.com for $19.99 and a 10,000 MAH for $25.99. If I really want power Anker has their new second Gen Astro Pro2 20,000 MAH battery on Amazon.com for $79.99. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com
RE: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
Hi Arnold, Perhaps I am being as paranoid as you are but I wouldn't do it. If the charger was not designed for that battery, we know that fast charging causes overheating and, I fear, would certainly damage the battery in the short or medium term. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the battery? Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than necessary. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage tricks in the book. Then what does it matter if it takes 2 or 3 hours to recharge your big internal battery since you can plug it in over night once you get home or back to your hotel or whatever. The company is charging quite a premium for their 2 batteries as well. The article mentions the 3,000 MAH is $59.99 and the 10,000 MAH is $99.99. I can buy an Anker 3,000 MAH on Amazon.com
RE: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
You can very safely use an iPad wall adapter to charge your iPhone. Yes, the charger can put out more than the iPhone requires, but the iPhone won't draw more. If in turn you use the iPhone adapter for your iPad it will charge but it will do so slower. That is the reason why an iPad won't charge when connected to a computer, a USB port on a computer just does not put out enough amps to charge an iPad. Below is a link from an Apple support article which lists which iPad comes with what charger (in terms of voltage). Underneath it says: While these USB power adapters are designed for use with iPad or iPad mini, you can charge all iPhone and iPod models by connecting them with either a Lightning to USB Cable or a 30-pin to USB Cable. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4327 Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It Hi Arnold, Perhaps I am being as paranoid as you are but I wouldn't do it. If the charger was not designed for that battery, we know that fast charging causes overheating and, I fear, would certainly damage the battery in the short or medium term. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the battery? Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than necessary. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged their phone before with its charger. Best, Wayne On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Kawal, I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on Mashable. I think the battery is the Ultrapack by UNU. My interpretation of this 15 minutes rapid charging is that it is the external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. Here is what it says in the article: UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never have to worry about running out of power again. UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to Ultra-X charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery charging speed by 8 times. This makes the device the world's fastest self-charging battery pack, according to UNU. The term self-charging is also an interesting choice of words and I think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any other external battery. According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and safeguards Apple uses. What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the overall longevity of a battery. I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small
