Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

I did what you said, Richard, and I'm pleased to report that all my folders 
made it through the Cloud sync intact. Yay! 

Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 9:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On the top of the screen, where it says filter, double tap.
> Then, flick right until you get to filter by folders and double tap.
> There you get to your folders and the option to filter by "no folder."
> That is where the things not in folders will show up.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Arianna Sepulveda  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So, Winston didn't get back to me, but I thought I'd try things again,
>> especially after VDR got a minor update to version 4. I updated to the
>> latest version of VDR on my 4S and 6S, turned on Cloud sync, and let
>> things sit for a while. I can report that things came over
>> beautifully! Well, except for my folders. Speaking of folders, has
>> anyone else noticed the move to folder option in the actions part of
>> the rotor? Really slick!
>> 
>> Can someone explain to me how you can see only the files that haven't
>> been moved into folders? A little confused on that. Also, when I
>> create a folder, how can I get to them? Does a folders button appear
>> on the app's main screen like before?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On 4/2/16, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> I now have most of the library back on the 4S. I restored from a previous
>>> backup. Nothing is on the 6S yet, as I'd like to keep things current on the
>>> new phone. I'll upgrade to version 4.0 on the 4S, but I won't do anything
>>> about setting up iCloud sync until I've spoken to Winston.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 
 You might need to try the repair library option in settings, but I would
 check with Winston first.
 Richard
 
 
 Sent from my iPod 6
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yes, I did have books on the 6S. Everything was almost identical to what
> was on the 4S, though.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm still confused.
>> What was on the 6s?
>> You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod 6
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do
>>> anything with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what
>>> would happen was that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and
>>> then I'd have the backup in iCloud, but the library would actually
>>> remain on the phone, and if I added something new, or read further in a
>>> book, it would be backed up to iCloud again, syncing the new changes. I
>>> am extremely frustrated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
 The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what
 books you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
 I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused
 between doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud
 sync?
 If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
 In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
 Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud
 sync.
 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book
 titles.
 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called
 Reader.
 Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will
 download that library.
 
 So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the
 new phone to sync.
 Or am I simply completely missing your point?
 Richard
 
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0.
> I haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a
> few days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this
> works. I do wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you
> do only have one iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to
> 

Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

On the top of the screen, where it says filter, double tap.
Then, flick right until you get to filter by folders and double tap.
There you get to your folders and the option to filter by "no folder."
That is where the things not in folders will show up.
HTH,
Richard


Sent from my iPod 6

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Arianna Sepulveda  
> wrote:
> 
> So, Winston didn't get back to me, but I thought I'd try things again,
> especially after VDR got a minor update to version 4. I updated to the
> latest version of VDR on my 4S and 6S, turned on Cloud sync, and let
> things sit for a while. I can report that things came over
> beautifully! Well, except for my folders. Speaking of folders, has
> anyone else noticed the move to folder option in the actions part of
> the rotor? Really slick!
> 
> Can someone explain to me how you can see only the files that haven't
> been moved into folders? A little confused on that. Also, when I
> create a folder, how can I get to them? Does a folders button appear
> on the app's main screen like before?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On 4/2/16, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I now have most of the library back on the 4S. I restored from a previous
>> backup. Nothing is on the 6S yet, as I'd like to keep things current on the
>> new phone. I'll upgrade to version 4.0 on the 4S, but I won't do anything
>> about setting up iCloud sync until I've spoken to Winston.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You might need to try the repair library option in settings, but I would
>>> check with Winston first.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I did have books on the 6S. Everything was almost identical to what
 was on the 4S, though.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm still confused.
> What was on the 6s?
> You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
> Richard
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do
>> anything with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what
>> would happen was that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and
>> then I'd have the backup in iCloud, but the library would actually
>> remain on the phone, and if I added something new, or read further in a
>> book, it would be backed up to iCloud again, syncing the new changes. I
>> am extremely frustrated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
>>> The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what
>>> books you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
>>> I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused
>>> between doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud
>>> sync?
>>> If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
>>> In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
>>> 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
>>> Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud
>>> sync.
>>> 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book
>>> titles.
>>> 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called
>>> Reader.
>>> Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will
>>> download that library.
>>> 
>>> So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the
>>> new phone to sync.
>>> Or am I simply completely missing your point?
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0.
 I haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a
 few days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this
 works. I do wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you
 do only have one iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to
 treat the iCloud sync feature as a backup method, as well as a
 feature in and of itself.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud,
> then 

Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Arianna Sepulveda]

So, Winston didn't get back to me, but I thought I'd try things again,
especially after VDR got a minor update to version 4. I updated to the
latest version of VDR on my 4S and 6S, turned on Cloud sync, and let
things sit for a while. I can report that things came over
beautifully! Well, except for my folders. Speaking of folders, has
anyone else noticed the move to folder option in the actions part of
the rotor? Really slick!

Can someone explain to me how you can see only the files that haven't
been moved into folders? A little confused on that. Also, when I
create a folder, how can I get to them? Does a folders button appear
on the app's main screen like before?


Thanks,
Ari

On 4/2/16, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I now have most of the library back on the 4S. I restored from a previous
> backup. Nothing is on the 6S yet, as I'd like to keep things current on the
> new phone. I'll upgrade to version 4.0 on the 4S, but I won't do anything
> about setting up iCloud sync until I've spoken to Winston.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> You might need to try the repair library option in settings, but I would
>> check with Winston first.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I did have books on the 6S. Everything was almost identical to what
>>> was on the 4S, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>>
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:

 I'm still confused.
 What was on the 6s?
 You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
 Richard

 Sent from my iPod 6

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do
> anything with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what
> would happen was that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and
> then I'd have the backup in iCloud, but the library would actually
> remain on the phone, and if I added something new, or read further in a
> book, it would be backed up to iCloud again, syncing the new changes. I
> am extremely frustrated.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
>> The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what
>> books you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
>> I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused
>> between doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud
>> sync?
>> If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
>> In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
>> 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
>> Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud
>> sync.
>> 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book
>> titles.
>> 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called
>> Reader.
>> Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will
>> download that library.
>>
>> So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the
>> new phone to sync.
>> Or am I simply completely missing your point?
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0.
>>> I haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a
>>> few days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this
>>> works. I do wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you
>>> do only have one iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to
>>> treat the iCloud sync feature as a backup method, as well as a
>>> feature in and of itself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>>
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:

 Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud,
 then get your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the
 library you had on the 4s?
 If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there
 would have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync
 with.
 If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup
 to the 4s which should put back the library that was there when you
 backed it up.
 Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should
 show up on your new phone.

Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

I now have most of the library back on the 4S. I restored from a previous 
backup. Nothing is on the 6S yet, as I'd like to keep things current on the new 
phone. I'll upgrade to version 4.0 on the 4S, but I won't do anything about 
setting up iCloud sync until I've spoken to Winston.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You might need to try the repair library option in settings, but I would 
> check with Winston first.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I did have books on the 6S. Everything was almost identical to what was 
>> on the 4S, though.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm still confused.
>>> What was on the 6s?
>>> You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do 
 anything with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what 
 would happen was that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and then 
 I'd have the backup in iCloud, but the library would actually remain on 
 the phone, and if I added something new, or read further in a book, it 
 would be backed up to iCloud again, syncing the new changes. I am 
 extremely frustrated.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
> The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what 
> books you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
> I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused between 
> doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud sync?
> If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
> In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
> 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
> Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud 
> sync.
> 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book titles.
> 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called Reader.
> Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will 
> download that library.
> 
> So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the new 
> phone to sync.
> Or am I simply completely missing your point?
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
>> haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a few 
>> days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I 
>> do wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have 
>> one iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud 
>> sync feature as a backup method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, 
>>> then get your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library 
>>> you had on the 4s?
>>> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there 
>>> would have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
>>> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to 
>>> the 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed 
>>> it up.
>>> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should 
>>> show up on your new phone.
>>> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
>>> Best of luck,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've 
 been having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought 
 iCloud sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my 
 library. I deleted the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in 
 order to avoid duplicates when I got the iCloud sync feature working, 
 then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when the library 
 appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't know 
 what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? 

Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

You might need to try the repair library option in settings, but I would check 
with Winston first.
Richard


Sent from my iPod 6

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yes, I did have books on the 6S. Everything was almost identical to what was 
> on the 4S, though.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm still confused.
>> What was on the 6s?
>> You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
>> Richard
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod 6
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do 
>>> anything with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what would 
>>> happen was that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and then I'd 
>>> have the backup in iCloud, but the library would actually remain on the 
>>> phone, and if I added something new, or read further in a book, it would be 
>>> backed up to iCloud again, syncing the new changes. I am extremely 
>>> frustrated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
 The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what books 
 you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
 I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused between 
 doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud sync?
 If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
 In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
 Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud 
 sync.
 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book titles.
 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called Reader.
 Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will 
 download that library.
 
 So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the new 
 phone to sync.
 Or am I simply completely missing your point?
 Richard
 
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
> haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a few 
> days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do 
> wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one 
> iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync 
> feature as a backup method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then 
>> get your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you 
>> had on the 4s?
>> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would 
>> have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
>> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to 
>> the 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed 
>> it up.
>> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should 
>> show up on your new phone.
>> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
>> Best of luck,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've 
>>> been having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought 
>>> iCloud sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my 
>>> library. I deleted the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order 
>>> to avoid duplicates when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then 
>>> turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when the library appeared to 
>>> vanish. There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't know what I did 
>>> wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? Do you think it would matter 
>>> that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or so ago? I'm really 
>>> confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's Winston's fault at 
>>> all, though. I must've just misunderstood something in the what's new 
>>> or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or something.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>> list.
>>> 
>>> 

Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

Yes, I did have books on the 6S. Everything was almost identical to what was on 
the 4S, though.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm still confused.
> What was on the 6s?
> You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
> Richard
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do 
>> anything with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what would 
>> happen was that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and then I'd 
>> have the backup in iCloud, but the library would actually remain on the 
>> phone, and if I added something new, or read further in a book, it would be 
>> backed up to iCloud again, syncing the new changes. I am extremely 
>> frustrated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
>>> The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what books 
>>> you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
>>> I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused between 
>>> doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud sync?
>>> If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
>>> In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
>>> 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
>>> Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud sync.
>>> 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book titles.
>>> 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called Reader.
>>> Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will download 
>>> that library.
>>> 
>>> So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the new 
>>> phone to sync.
>>> Or am I simply completely missing your point?
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
 haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a few 
 days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do 
 wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one 
 iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync 
 feature as a backup method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then 
> get your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had 
> on the 4s?
> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would 
> have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to 
> the 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed 
> it up.
> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show 
> up on your new phone.
> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
> Best of luck,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've 
>> been having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought 
>> iCloud sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. 
>> I deleted the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid 
>> duplicates when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on 
>> iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. 
>> There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has 
>> anyone else had this problem? Do you think it would matter that I used 
>> iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and 
>> kind of frustrated. I don't think it's Winston's fault at all, though. I 
>> must've just misunderstood something in the what's new or the manual, or 
>> something went weird with iCloud or something.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

I'm still confused.
What was on the 6s?
You said the 6s was the new phone. Did you have any books on it?
Richard

Sent from my iPod 6

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:23 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do anything 
> with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what would happen was 
> that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and then I'd have the backup 
> in iCloud, but the library would actually remain on the phone, and if I added 
> something new, or read further in a book, it would be backed up to iCloud 
> again, syncing the new changes. I am extremely frustrated.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
>> The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what books 
>> you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
>> I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused between 
>> doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud sync?
>> If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
>> In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
>> 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
>> Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud sync.
>> 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book titles.
>> 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called Reader.
>> Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will download 
>> that library.
>> 
>> So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the new 
>> phone to sync.
>> Or am I simply completely missing your point?
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
>>> haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a few 
>>> days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do 
>>> wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one 
>>> iOS device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync 
>>> feature as a backup method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then 
 get your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had 
 on the 4s?
 If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would 
 have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
 If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to the 
 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed it up.
 Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show 
 up on your new phone.
 At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
 Best of luck,
 Richard
 
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've 
> been having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought 
> iCloud sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. 
> I deleted the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid 
> duplicates when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on 
> iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. 
> There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has 
> anyone else had this problem? Do you think it would matter that I used 
> iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and 
> kind of frustrated. I don't think it's Winston's fault at all, though. I 
> must've just misunderstood something in the what's new or the manual, or 
> something went weird with iCloud or something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

Richard, you're right. ICloud Drive is on on the 6S, and I didn't do anything 
with the 4S other than to delete the library. I thought what would happen was 
that the library on the 6S would sync to iCloud, and then I'd have the backup 
in iCloud, but the library would actually remain on the phone, and if I added 
something new, or read further in a book, it would be backed up to iCloud 
again, syncing the new changes. I am extremely frustrated.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
> The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what books 
> you had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
> I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused between 
> doing a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud sync?
> If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
> In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
> 1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
> Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud sync.
> 3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book titles.
> 4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called Reader.
> Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will download 
> that library.
> 
> So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the new 
> phone to sync.
> Or am I simply completely missing your point?
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
>> haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a few days, 
>> but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do wish 
>> that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one iOS 
>> device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync feature as 
>> a backup method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then 
>>> get your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had 
>>> on the 4s?
>>> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would 
>>> have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
>>> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to the 
>>> 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed it up.
>>> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show 
>>> up on your new phone.
>>> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
>>> Best of luck,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've 
 been having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought 
 iCloud sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I 
 deleted the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid 
 duplicates when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on 
 iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. 
 There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has 
 anyone else had this problem? Do you think it would matter that I used 
 iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind 
 of frustrated. I don't think it's Winston's fault at all, though. I 
 must've just misunderstood something in the what's new or the manual, or 
 something went weird with iCloud or something.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

Oh, thank God! Maybe I'll just leave it sitting on all night with VDR in the 
foreground and see what happens. This does give me hope for things being fixed.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
> disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen 
> said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next 
> checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and 
> comfort. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync 
>  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the 
> Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I 
> got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. 
> That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? 
> Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or 
> so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's 
> Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something in the 
> what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Mary Otten]

Well, this will be a good way to get my PDF files and other downloads over to 
iCloud. And onto my iPad. I am not sure that I want all that huge library from 
my iPad on my phone however. That sounds like a whole lot of deleting will be 
happening after everything is synced up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mary,
> I have an iPhone and an iPod Touch.
> I had most of my books on the iPod Touch 6.
> I had some different books on the iPhone.
> After updating the Touch to VDR 4, and syncing the library, I updated the 
> iPhone, to VDR 4 and enabled iCloud sync.
> Now, both the Touch and the iPhone have the same books on them.
> At some point, I will delete books off the iPhone. But, I was curious if what 
> you were asking about was the case and indeed it is.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> It sounds like you did what Winston told me would work, and I haven't tried 
>> yet, because I am a coward.you installed vdr on the phone last night and 
>> synched the books with iCloud. Then this morning, you did the same for your 
>> iPad, turned on sink and those books also synced. Now the question. Are the 
>> libraries, I should say were the libraries on your two devices different 
>> before you started this process? And now, are all books from both machines 
>> on both machines?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
>>> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on 
>>> iPad disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the 
>>> screen said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When 
>>> I next checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some 
>>> help and comfort. 
>>> 
>>> reggie & Lex
>>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on 
>>> my 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in 
>>> there anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 
>>> 4S a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't 
>>> think it's Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood 
>>> something in the what's new or the manual, or something went weird with 
>>> iCloud or something.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Regina Alvarado]

Ah, makes sense! Thank you. I wouldn't have thought of that! [smiles) 
On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I'm going to guess that if you have the same book on both devices, you will 
have to delete it from both devices in order for it to be deleted from iCloud 
Drive.
I'm not sure.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes. Both have all the books, and yes, each had it's own library. Today I 
> added about 10 books from BKS on my iPad, and when I just entered VDR on 
> iPhone these 10 books entered the library. Interesting, however, when I 
> opened VDR on the phone, the screen said unavailable at each space for a 
> book. I was scared, but then I saw synching with iCloud and in about 1.5 
> minutes every book was there. I suspect that synch wait will be there every 
> time you change devices. I have since updated to 4.02 and perhaps the process 
> will go faster? Not a deal breaker though. I can wait for 1.5 minutes to 
> read. Question: If I delete a book and it disappears, where does it go? I 
> hope it is not held in iCloud as space which is free is not unlimited.
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  
> It sounds like you did what Winston told me would work, and I haven't tried 
> yet, because I am a coward.you installed vdr on the phone last night and 
> synched the books with iCloud. Then this morning, you did the same for your 
> iPad, turned on sink and those books also synced. Now the question. Are the 
> libraries, I should say were the libraries on your two devices different 
> before you started this process? And now, are all books from both machines on 
> both machines?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
>> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
>> disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen 
>> said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next 
>> checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and 
>> comfort. 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 
>> 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
>> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S 
>> a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think 
>> it's Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something 
>> in the what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or 
>> something.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

I'm going to guess that if you have the same book on both devices, you will 
have to delete it from both devices in order for it to be deleted from iCloud 
Drive.
I'm not sure.
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes. Both have all the books, and yes, each had it's own library. Today I 
> added about 10 books from BKS on my iPad, and when I just entered VDR on 
> iPhone these 10 books entered the library. Interesting, however, when I 
> opened VDR on the phone, the screen said unavailable at each space for a 
> book. I was scared, but then I saw synching with iCloud and in about 1.5 
> minutes every book was there. I suspect that synch wait will be there every 
> time you change devices. I have since updated to 4.02 and perhaps the process 
> will go faster? Not a deal breaker though. I can wait for 1.5 minutes to 
> read. Question: If I delete a book and it disappears, where does it go? I 
> hope it is not held in iCloud as space which is free is not unlimited.
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  
> It sounds like you did what Winston told me would work, and I haven't tried 
> yet, because I am a coward.you installed vdr on the phone last night and 
> synched the books with iCloud. Then this morning, you did the same for your 
> iPad, turned on sink and those books also synced. Now the question. Are the 
> libraries, I should say were the libraries on your two devices different 
> before you started this process? And now, are all books from both machines on 
> both machines?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
>> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
>> disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen 
>> said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next 
>> checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and 
>> comfort. 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 
>> 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
>> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S 
>> a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think 
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

Mary,
I have an iPhone and an iPod Touch.
I had most of my books on the iPod Touch 6.
I had some different books on the iPhone.
After updating the Touch to VDR 4, and syncing the library, I updated the 
iPhone, to VDR 4 and enabled iCloud sync.
Now, both the Touch and the iPhone have the same books on them.
At some point, I will delete books off the iPhone. But, I was curious if what 
you were asking about was the case and indeed it is.

Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  
> It sounds like you did what Winston told me would work, and I haven't tried 
> yet, because I am a coward.you installed vdr on the phone last night and 
> synched the books with iCloud. Then this morning, you did the same for your 
> iPad, turned on sink and those books also synced. Now the question. Are the 
> libraries, I should say were the libraries on your two devices different 
> before you started this process? And now, are all books from both machines on 
> both machines?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
>> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
>> disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen 
>> said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next 
>> checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and 
>> comfort. 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 
>> 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
>> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S 
>> a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think 
>> it's Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something 
>> in the what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or 
>> something.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Regina Alvarado]

Yes. Both have all the books, and yes, each had it's own library. Today I added 
about 10 books from BKS on my iPad, and when I just entered VDR on iPhone these 
10 books entered the library. Interesting, however, when I opened VDR on the 
phone, the screen said unavailable at each space for a book. I was scared, but 
then I saw synching with iCloud and in about 1.5 minutes every book was there. 
I suspect that synch wait will be there every time you change devices. I have 
since updated to 4.02 and perhaps the process will go faster? Not a deal 
breaker though. I can wait for 1.5 minutes to read. Question: If I delete a 
book and it disappears, where does it go? I hope it is not held in iCloud as 
space which is free is not unlimited.
On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 
It sounds like you did what Winston told me would work, and I haven't tried 
yet, because I am a coward.you installed vdr on the phone last night and 
synched the books with iCloud. Then this morning, you did the same for your 
iPad, turned on sink and those books also synced. Now the question. Are the 
libraries, I should say were the libraries on your two devices different before 
you started this process? And now, are all books from both machines on both 
machines?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
> disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen 
> said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next 
> checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and 
> comfort. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync 
>  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the 
> Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I 
> got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. 
> That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? 
> Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or 
> so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's 
> Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something in the 
> what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Yes, you can use the iCloud Sync with one device just as a backup.
The thing some of us, especially me, is confused about is maybe what books you 
had in the VDR 4 on your new phone?
I thought you had all your books on the 4s. Or, were you confused between doing 
a regular iOS iCloud backup and the new VDR iCloud sync?
If that is the case, the two methods have nothing in common.
In order for you to use the iCloud sync:
1. you have to have iCloud Drive turned on.
Two, you have to have books in VDR running version 4 and enable iCloud sync.
3. You have to wait until it no longer says syncing after the book titles.
4. You now have that library in iCloud drive in a folder called Reader.
Then, any device you install VDR 4 on and turn on iCloud sync will download 
that library.

So, if you didn't sync the 4s library first, there is nothing for the new phone 
to sync.
Or am I simply completely missing your point?
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
> haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a the 4S in a few days, 
> but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do wish that 
> you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one iOS device. 
> Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync feature as a backup 
> method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then get 
>> your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had on the 
>> 4s?
>> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would 
>> have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
>> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to the 
>> 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed it up.
>> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show up 
>> on your new phone.
>> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
>> Best of luck,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on 
>>> my 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in 
>>> there anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 
>>> 4S a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't 
>>> think it's Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood 
>>> something in the what's new or the manual, or something went weird with 
>>> iCloud or something.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Mary Otten]

 
It sounds like you did what Winston told me would work, and I haven't tried 
yet, because I am a coward.you installed vdr on the phone last night and 
synched the books with iCloud. Then this morning, you did the same for your 
iPad, turned on sink and those books also synced. Now the question. Are the 
libraries, I should say were the libraries on your two devices different before 
you started this process? And now, are all books from both machines on both 
machines?
Mary


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> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
> synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
> disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen 
> said were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next 
> checked, every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and 
> comfort. 
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync 
>  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the 
> Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I 
> got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. 
> That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? 
> Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or 
> so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's 
> Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something in the 
> what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Regina Alvarado]

Ary, This morning I went to iPad and installed VDR. I had asked my books to 
synch last night, and now I did the same with iPad. Poof, everything on iPad 
disappeared. Shortly some came back, but there were some books the screen said 
were not available. I then had to leave for about 5 hours. When I next checked, 
every one of my books was back. I hope this gives you some help and comfort. 

reggie & Lex

On Apr 1, 2016, at 7:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync  
would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the Voice 
Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I got the 
iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when 
the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't 
know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? Do you think it would 
matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or so ago? I'm really 
confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's Winston's fault at all, 
though. I must've just misunderstood something in the what's new or the manual, 
or something went weird with iCloud or something.

Thanks,
Ari

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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Mary Otten]

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see why you couldn't do what you want. If you back 
up a library using the iCloud sink, then uninstall Voice Dream, then reinstall 
it on the same machine, and enable iCloud sink, all of your things are supposed 
to be there. That is how I understood Winston's response to me, when I was 
asking him about uninstalling after having uploaded things to iCloud. As it 
happens, I did not have to do that on installation, because the voices did come 
back to my phone which had previously been purchased but had not been there 
since my upgrade last fall.
Mary


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> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:22 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I 
> haven'n updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a backup of the 4S in a 
> few days, but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do 
> wish that you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one iOS 
> device. Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync feature as 
> a backup method, as well as a feature in and of itself.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then get 
>> your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had on the 
>> 4s?
>> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would 
>> have been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
>> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to the 
>> 4s which should put back the library that was there when you backed it up.
>> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show up 
>> on your new phone.
>> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
>> Best of luck,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on 
>>> my 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in 
>>> there anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 
>>> 4S a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't 
>>> think it's Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood 
>>> something in the what's new or the manual, or something went weird with 
>>> iCloud or something.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

I actually deleted the library on the 4S before updating to VDR 4.0. I haven'n 
updated to 4.0 on the 4S yet. I haven't made a backup of the 4S in a few days, 
but I can restore it and see how that goes. I hope this works. I do wish that 
you could do the iCloud sync thing even if you do only have one iOS device. 
Maybe it's just me' but I'd like to treat the iCloud sync feature as a backup 
method, as well as a feature in and of itself.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then get 
> your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had on the 
> 4s?
> If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would have 
> been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
> If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to the 4s 
> which should put back the library that was there when you backed it up.
> Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show up 
> on your new phone.
> At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
> Best of luck,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
>> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud 
>> sync  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted 
>> the Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates 
>> when I got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 
>> 6S. That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
>> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem? Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S 
>> a week or so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think 
>> it's Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something 
>> in the what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or 
>> something.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Richard Turner]

Did you install VDR 4 on your 4s first, sync the library to iCloud, then get 
your 6s and turn on iCloud sync on it to download the library you had on the 4s?
If you did not previously use VDR'S iCloud sync feature then there would have 
been nothing in iCloud Drive for the new phone to sync with.
If you did an incrypted backup of the 4s, try restoring that backup to the 4s 
which should put back the library that was there when you backed it up.
Then update VDR to version 4 and do the sync, then everything should show up on 
your new phone.
At least, from what you said, that is what I think.
Best of luck,
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync 
>  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the 
> Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I 
> got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. 
> That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? 
> Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or 
> so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's 
> Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something in the 
> what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[Mary Otten]

I saw an article in some tech magazine earlier today about have some users were 
having iCloud problems. Perhaps that is what happened with you, and perhaps it 
will come back when whatever the iCloud problem is is fixed. I certainly hope 
so.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2016, at 4:53 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
> having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync 
>  would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the 
> Voice Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I 
> got the iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. 
> That was when the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there 
> anymore, and I don't know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? 
> Do you think it would matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or 
> so ago? I'm really confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's 
> Winston's fault at all, though. I must've just misunderstood something in the 
> what's new or the manual, or something went weird with iCloud or something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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VDR Library appears to be gone after turning on iCloud sync.

[englishrider91]

I was really excited for this update to Voice Dream Reader. Since I've been 
having problems syncing my library file to my computer, I thought iCloud sync  
would be a great way to always have a backup of my library. I deleted the Voice 
Dream Reader library on my old 4S in order to avoid duplicates when I got the 
iCloud sync feature working, then turned on iCloud sync on my 6S. That was when 
the library appeared to vanish. There's nothing in there anymore, and I don't 
know what I did wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? Do you think it would 
matter that I used iCloud to back up on my 4S a week or so ago? I'm really 
confused, and kind of frustrated. I don't think it's Winston's fault at all, 
though. I must've just misunderstood something in the what's new or the manual, 
or something went weird with iCloud or something.

Thanks,
Ari

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