Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-24 Thread Sherrie
Podcasts are informative but not good for reference.  I greatly prefer text 
files with directions for how to do things Then I can search for specific 
words or phrases and jump right to the pertinent information I am reviewing. 
This is not at all possible with a podcast.
.  I keep these text files and tutorials on my computer for future 
reference.  Going back to a podcast to find one small detail is tedious 
while it is fairly simple to search my computer files.
When I first got my phone I listened to countless podcasts and learned a lot 
but it is bothersome to try and take notes for reference while listening.
So I feel there is a place for the audio podcast and for concise written 
directions as well.

Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Neal Ewers

Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.

A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
Users

http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
s=type:podcast

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:


This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any
app you download can only be linked with another app that you download
by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying
to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on
top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete
the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't
use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
learning start?

- Original Message -
From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
productivity folder and put them apps in there.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth
keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder
but he doesn't cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing
this?

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
learning start?



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RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-24 Thread Neal Ewers
Sherrie, point well taken. And besides, the instructions for doing this were
a bit different in the podcast than they were in the email message that soon
followed. On the other hand, if you read a podcast, you, as some have, may
learn other things you would like to know. Now, if we can ever get to the
point where we can word search podcasts, that would be quite nice.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sherrie
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Podcasts are informative but not good for reference.  I greatly prefer text
files with directions for how to do things Then I can search for specific
words or phrases and jump right to the pertinent information I am reviewing.

This is not at all possible with a podcast.
.  I keep these text files and tutorials on my computer for future
reference.  Going back to a podcast to find one small detail is tedious
while it is fairly simple to search my computer files.
When I first got my phone I listened to countless podcasts and learned a lot
but it is bothersome to try and take notes for reference while listening.
So I feel there is a place for the audio podcast and for concise written
directions as well.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message-
From: Neal Ewers
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.

A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
Users

http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
s=type:podcast

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any 
 app you download can only be linked with another app that you download 
 by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying 
 to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on 
 top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete 
 the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't 
 use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of 
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a 
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth 
 keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder 
 but he doesn't cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing 
 this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?


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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-24 Thread Robert Doc Wright
ccept that that podcast DOES NOT mention anything about creating new folders 
using the keyboard.  Thus, my writing down the steps to do so in an earlier 
post.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


Podcasts are informative but not good for reference.  I greatly prefer text
files with directions for how to do things Then I can search for specific
words or phrases and jump right to the pertinent information I am reviewing.
This is not at all possible with a podcast.
.  I keep these text files and tutorials on my computer for future
reference.  Going back to a podcast to find one small detail is tedious
while it is fairly simple to search my computer files.
When I first got my phone I listened to countless podcasts and learned a lot
but it is bothersome to try and take notes for reference while listening.
So I feel there is a place for the audio podcast and for concise written
directions as well.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Neal Ewers
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.

A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
Users

http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
s=type:podcast

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any
 app you download can only be linked with another app that you download
 by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying
 to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on
 top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete
 the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't
 use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
 learning start?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth
 keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder
 but he doesn't cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing
 this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
 learning start?


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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-24 Thread Robert Doc Wright
ccept that that podcast DOES NOT mention anything about creating new folders 
using the keyboard.  Thus, my writing down the steps to do so in an earlier 
post.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


Podcasts are informative but not good for reference.  I greatly prefer text
files with directions for how to do things Then I can search for specific
words or phrases and jump right to the pertinent information I am reviewing.
This is not at all possible with a podcast.
.  I keep these text files and tutorials on my computer for future
reference.  Going back to a podcast to find one small detail is tedious
while it is fairly simple to search my computer files.
When I first got my phone I listened to countless podcasts and learned a lot
but it is bothersome to try and take notes for reference while listening.
So I feel there is a place for the audio podcast and for concise written
directions as well.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Neal Ewers
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.

A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
Users

http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
s=type:podcast

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any
 app you download can only be linked with another app that you download
 by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying
 to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on
 top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete
 the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't
 use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
 learning start?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth
 keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder
 but he doesn't cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing
 this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
 learning start?


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RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-24 Thread Neal Ewers
Actually, it does mention that very thing shortly after 21 minutes in the
podcast, that is if you link to the same podcast I mention.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

ccept that that podcast DOES NOT mention anything about creating new folders
using the keyboard.  Thus, my writing down the steps to do so in an earlier
post.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Sherrie nanagoose4...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


Podcasts are informative but not good for reference.  I greatly prefer text
files with directions for how to do things Then I can search for specific
words or phrases and jump right to the pertinent information I am reviewing.
This is not at all possible with a podcast.
.  I keep these text files and tutorials on my computer for future
reference.  Going back to a podcast to find one small detail is tedious
while it is fairly simple to search my computer files.
When I first got my phone I listened to countless podcasts and learned a lot
but it is bothersome to try and take notes for reference while listening.
So I feel there is a place for the audio podcast and for concise written
directions as well.
Sherrie Gosling


-Original Message- 
From: Neal Ewers
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.

A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
Users

http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
s=type:podcast

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any
 app you download can only be linked with another app that you download
 by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying
 to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on
 top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete
 the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't
 use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
 learning start?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth
 keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder
 but he doesn't cover creating a new

Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard/podcast

2014-03-22 Thread Robert Doc Wright
http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/843217



If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:51 AM
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


Hi Robert, do you have details for getting the podcast please?, Billy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: 20 March 2014 17:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard
with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he doesn't
cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-22 Thread Robert Doc Wright
So are you saying that when I use shift vo m to move an app; that all I need 
to do is vo right or left arrow until I get to another app and just wait for 
it to beep before I press the up and down arrows?

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using 
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at 
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my 
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any app
 you download can only be linked with another app that you download by 
 using
 gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying to move is 
 to
 move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on top of another 
 app
 the option you get is whether you wish to delete the app.  You can move an
 app to an existing  folder. you just can't use the keyboard to create
 folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth 
 keyboard
 with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he
 doesn't
 cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning
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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-22 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an 
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the 
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to 
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using 
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at 
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my 
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any app
 you download can only be linked with another app that you download by 
 using
 gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying to move is 
 to
 move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on top of another 
 app
 the option you get is whether you wish to delete the app.  You can move an
 app to an existing  folder. you just can't use the keyboard to create
 folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth 
 keyboard
 with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he
 doesn't
 cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning
 start?


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RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-22 Thread Pinky
Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using 
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at 
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my 
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any app
 you download can only be linked with another app that you download by 
 using
 gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying to move is 
 to
 move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on top of another 
 app
 the option you get is whether you wish to delete the app.  You can move an
 app to an existing  folder. you just can't use the keyboard to create
 folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth 
 keyboard
 with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he
 doesn't
 cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning
 start?


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RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-22 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.

A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
Users

http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
s=type:podcast

Neal


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Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any 
 app you download can only be linked with another app that you download 
 by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying 
 to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on 
 top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete 
 the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't 
 use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of 
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a 
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth 
 keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder 
 but he doesn't cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing 
 this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?


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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-22 Thread Jennie Facer
I just listened to this podcast in its entirity, and i learned a lot.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Hi, this has already been done in the wonderful podcast that was mentioned
 in this thread. I suggest that listening to it is better than having someone
 recreate the wheel. You should be able to find it on AppleVis.
 
 A Demonstration of Bluetooth Keyboard Commands Available to iOS VoiceOver
 Users
 
 http://www.applevis.com/search/apachesolr_search/bluetooth%20keyboard?filter
 s=type:podcast
 
 Neal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Pinky
 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard
 
 Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
 with the Bluetooth keyboard.
 
 It would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Ed
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard
 
 I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
 app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
 folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
 just outside of the folder.top
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard
 
 
 This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
 the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
 all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
 For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
 games into one.
 
 On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any 
 app you download can only be linked with another app that you download 
 by using gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying 
 to move is to move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on 
 top of another app the option you get is whether you wish to delete 
 the app.  You can move an app to an existing  folder. you just can't 
 use the keyboard to create folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard
 
 
 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of 
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a 
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth 
 keyboard with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder 
 but he doesn't cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing 
 this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?
 
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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-22 Thread Robert Doc Wright
1. press vo shift m
2. use left or right cursor to move to the app you wish to create the folder 
with
3. press vo shift m  and you will hear a toen and it will announce folder 
created.


If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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From: Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


Can you please do a step by step how you move the app and creating a folder
with the Bluetooth keyboard.

It would be greatly appreciated.

Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I have it figured out. Thanks for challenging me to think.  When I move an
app on  of another using shift vo m I repeat the command and it creates the
folder.  Now I just need to figure out how to remove an app from a folder to
just outside of the folder.top

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

- Original Message -
From: Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using
the keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at
all. When you get it not he app it will start beeping.
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my
games into one.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any app
 you download can only be linked with another app that you download by
 using
 gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying to move is
 to
 move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on top of another
 app
 the option you get is whether you wish to delete the app.  You can move an
 app to an existing  folder. you just can't use the keyboard to create
 folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth
 keyboard
 with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he
 doesn't
 cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the
 learning
 start?


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RE: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-21 Thread Broxi72
Hi Robert, do you have details for getting the podcast please?, Billy

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Sent: 20 March 2014 17:15
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Subject: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard
with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he doesn't
cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?

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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-21 Thread Robert Doc Wright
This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any app 
you download can only be linked with another app that you download by using 
gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying to move is to 
move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on top of another app 
the option you get is whether you wish to delete the app.  You can move an 
app to an existing  folder. you just can't use the keyboard to create 
folders with apps you have downloaded.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard


To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
productivity folder and put them apps in there.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard
 with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he 
 doesn't
 cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?


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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-21 Thread Deb Lewis
This is not the case. I have moved lots of apps on top of each other using the 
keyboard. They have not included the ones that came with the phone at all. When 
you get it not he app it will start beeping. 
For example, I put all my word processing apps into one folder and all my games 
into one. 

On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 This only works with apps that originally came with the IDevice.  Any app 
 you download can only be linked with another app that you download by using 
 gestures. when using the keyboard the only option when trying to move is to 
 move from one place to another.  If you try to put it on top of another app 
 the option you get is whether you wish to delete the app.  You can move an 
 app to an existing  folder. you just can't use the keyboard to create 
 folders with apps you have downloaded.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
 start?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard
 
 
 To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of
 the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps.
 For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a
 productivity folder and put them apps in there.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard
 with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he 
 doesn't
 cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
 start?
 
 
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creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard 
with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he doesn't 
cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?

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creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard 
with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he doesn't 
cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?

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Re: creating folders with bluetooth keyboard

2014-03-20 Thread Chris Apple boy
To create a folder the idea is to move one app to the same position of 
the other app. iOS then creates a folder with a name based on the apps. 
For example if I move MBraille on top of Fleksy then iOS will create a 
productivity folder and put them apps in there.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 20/03/2014 17:15, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I was listening to David Woodridge's podcast on using a bluetooth keyboard
with iDevices. He covers moving an app to an existing folder but he doesn't
cover creating a new folder. How do I go about doing this?

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
start?



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