Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
The only thing I use itunes for is, itunes file sharing. I transfer large zip files into voice dream reader. -Original Message- From: Wayne Merritt Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 The reason I don't use iTunes is because, IMO, it sucks. Sorry, too strong. I have found iTunes too confusing, too bloated, too many options, and way too complicated. I stopped using it several years ago after I finally was able to upload my music library to use the iTunes Match service. I'm still not sure how I managed that, but got it done. I haven't really used it since. Granted, there may be those who disagree and find iTunes tolerable or even "lovely". As for me, Apple has given us this ability to restore from iCloud and that suits me just fine. Just my biased thoughts, Wayne Merritt On 9/24/20, chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Although I agree that it's important for blind people to participate in the betas and provide feedback, I also agree with Wayne that you have to keep in mind that these are betas, so it may not be appropriate for every blind person to be running a beta on their only device. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 hello Wane, to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why don't you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong sometime when Apple relises them! Daniel On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt wrote: > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise > my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I > don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something > goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you > put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work > on what is reported. > > Wayne > > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: >> hello, >> >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to >> the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them >> post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I >> urge all experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, >> and then join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this >> program puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. >> they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting >> fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and >> they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users >> are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with >> multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time >> and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people >> complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only >> to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the >> apple beta software program and report what bugs they find , >> reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy >> beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald >> >> >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all >>> if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list >>> of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me >>> know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which >>> ones. Also let me know >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I >>> am >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to >>> make a comprehensive list because these problems just started today >>> or yesterday. >>> I >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five >>> days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either I >>> didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first few >>> days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? >>> >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button >>> sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone >>> click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages This >>> endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also >>> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the >>> screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as >>> humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere >>> >>> >>> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I >>> could flip back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any >>> app. double clicking did nothing. Siri would not do anything.
RE: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
And this is somewhat the reason apple say to not install the betas on your primary devices, Also you have to remember that we the blind / visually impaired community are a very small user group of the apple products so they develop for us only as a minority to that of the able bodied community, Yet unlike other companys they do put a lot of work in to accessibility features and do take the feed back from those that beta test. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of chalt...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, 25 September 2020 6:22 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 Although I agree that it's important for blind people to participate in the betas and provide feedback, I also agree with Wayne that you have to keep in mind that these are betas, so it may not be appropriate for every blind person to be running a beta on their only device. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Daniel MacDonald > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 > > hello Wane, > > to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. > I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why > don't you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong > sometime when Apple relises them! > Daniel > > > On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to > > compromise my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test > > on. Plus, I don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore > > anything if something goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers > > though for the hard work you put in and the bugs you report. No one > > can get it all, but great work on what is reported. > > > > Wayne > > > > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: > >> hello, > >> > >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to > >> the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them > >> post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I > >> urge all experiencing bugs to report them to > >> accessibil...@apple.com, and then join the Apple beta software > >> program. being a member of this program puts you in direct contact with > >> Apple's Engenneering team. > >> they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting > >> fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and > >> they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver > >> users are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only > >> then, with multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices > >> be herd. time and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several > >> email lists, people complaining about the bug they experience and > >> doing nothing. the only to rectify all of these complaints, is for > >> everybody to join the apple beta software program and report what > >> bugs they find , reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is > >> invabuable. . happy beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald > >> > >> > >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: > >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it > >>> all if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive > >>> list of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and > >>> let me know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if > >>> so, which ones. Also let me know > >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am > >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to > >>> make a comprehensive list because these problems just started > >>> today or yesterday. > >>> I > >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five > >>> days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either > >>> I didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first > >>> few days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? > >>> > >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button > >>> sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone > >>> click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages > >>> This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen > >>> also occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger > >>> on the screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it > >>> as fast as humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going > >>> nowhere > >>> > >>> > >>> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I > >>> could flip back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any > >>> app. double clicking did nothing. Siri would not do anything. > >>> Asking her to do anything at all resulted in her stating the >
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
Wayne, I just tolerate iTunes as well. I basically only use it for getting music onto my iPhone. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 -Original Message- From: Wayne Merritt Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 3:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 The reason I don't use iTunes is because, IMO, it sucks. Sorry, too strong. I have found iTunes too confusing, too bloated, too many options, and way too complicated. I stopped using it several years ago after I finally was able to upload my music library to use the iTunes Match service. I'm still not sure how I managed that, but got it done. I haven't really used it since. Granted, there may be those who disagree and find iTunes tolerable or even "lovely". As for me, Apple has given us this ability to restore from iCloud and that suits me just fine. Just my biased thoughts, Wayne Merritt On 9/24/20, chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Although I agree that it's important for blind people to participate in the betas and provide feedback, I also agree with Wayne that you have to keep in mind that these are betas, so it may not be appropriate for every blind person to be running a beta on their only device. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 hello Wane, to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why don't you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong sometime when Apple relises them! Daniel On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt wrote: > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise > my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I > don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something > goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you > put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work > on what is reported. > > Wayne > > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: >> hello, >> >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to >> the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them >> post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I >> urge all experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, >> and then join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this >> program puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. >> they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting >> fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and >> they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users >> are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with >> multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time >> and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people >> complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only >> to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the >> apple beta software program and report what bugs they find , >> reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy >> beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald >> >> >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all >>> if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list >>> of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me >>> know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which >>> ones. Also let me know >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I >>> am >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to >>> make a comprehensive list because these problems just started today >>> or yesterday. >>> I >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five >>> days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either I >>> didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first few >>> days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? >>> >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button >>> sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone >>> click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages This >>> endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also >>> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the >>> screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as >>> humanly possible clicking thousands of times but
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
The reason I don't use iTunes is because, IMO, it sucks. Sorry, too strong. I have found iTunes too confusing, too bloated, too many options, and way too complicated. I stopped using it several years ago after I finally was able to upload my music library to use the iTunes Match service. I'm still not sure how I managed that, but got it done. I haven't really used it since. Granted, there may be those who disagree and find iTunes tolerable or even "lovely". As for me, Apple has given us this ability to restore from iCloud and that suits me just fine. Just my biased thoughts, Wayne Merritt On 9/24/20, chalt...@gmail.com wrote: > Although I agree that it's important for blind people to participate in the > betas and provide feedback, I also agree with Wayne that you have to keep in > mind that these are betas, so it may not be appropriate for every blind > person to be running a beta on their only device. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Daniel MacDonald >> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 >> >> hello Wane, >> >> to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. >> I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why >> don't >> you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong sometime when >> Apple relises them! >> Daniel >> >> >> On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt wrote: >> > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise >> > my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I >> > don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something >> > goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you >> > put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work >> > on what is reported. >> > >> > Wayne >> > >> > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: >> >> hello, >> >> >> >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to >> >> the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them >> >> post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I >> >> urge all experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, >> >> and then join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this >> >> program puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. >> >> they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting >> >> fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and >> >> they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users >> >> are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with >> >> multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time >> >> and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people >> >> complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only >> >> to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the >> >> apple beta software program and report what bugs they find , >> >> reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy >> >> beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: >> >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all >> >>> if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list >> >>> of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me >> >>> know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which >> >>> ones. Also let me know >> >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I >> >>> am >> >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to >> >>> make a comprehensive list because these problems just started today >> >>> or yesterday. >> >>> I >> >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five >> >>> days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either I >> >>> didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first few >> >>> days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? >> >>> >> >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button >> >>> sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone >> >>> click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages This >> >>> endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also >> >>> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the >> >>> screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as >> >>> humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I >> >>> could flip back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any >> >>> app. double clicking did nothing. Siri would not do anything. >> >>> Asking her to do anything at all resulted in
RE: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
Although I agree that it's important for blind people to participate in the betas and provide feedback, I also agree with Wayne that you have to keep in mind that these are betas, so it may not be appropriate for every blind person to be running a beta on their only device. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Daniel MacDonald > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 > > hello Wane, > > to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. > I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why don't > you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong sometime when > Apple relises them! > Daniel > > > On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise > > my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I > > don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something > > goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you > > put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work > > on what is reported. > > > > Wayne > > > > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: > >> hello, > >> > >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to > >> the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them > >> post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I > >> urge all experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, > >> and then join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this > >> program puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. > >> they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting > >> fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and > >> they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users > >> are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with > >> multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time > >> and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people > >> complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only > >> to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the > >> apple beta software program and report what bugs they find , > >> reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy > >> beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald > >> > >> > >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: > >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all > >>> if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list > >>> of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me > >>> know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which > >>> ones. Also let me know > >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am > >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to > >>> make a comprehensive list because these problems just started today > >>> or yesterday. > >>> I > >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five > >>> days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either I > >>> didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first few > >>> days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? > >>> > >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button > >>> sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone > >>> click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages This > >>> endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also > >>> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the > >>> screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as > >>> humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere > >>> > >>> > >>> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I > >>> could flip back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any > >>> app. double clicking did nothing. Siri would not do anything. > >>> Asking her to do anything at all resulted in her stating the > >>> obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the power button and volume > >>> did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to do a hard reset. > >>> For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do this is > >>> quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side power > >>> button until your phone shows the Apple logo > >>> > >>> Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the > >>> search button continuously flicking right does not change the focus > >>> to the list of folders or list of male messages. The same thing > >>> happens when opening up the message application. Focus get stuck on > >>> the search box. The only way to get out of this is to tap somewhere >
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
hello Wane, to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why don't you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong sometime when Apple relises them! Daniel On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt wrote: > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise > my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I > don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something > goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you > put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work > on what is reported. > > Wayne > > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: >> hello, >> >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to the >> masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them post >> haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I urge all >> experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, and then >> join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this program >> puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. they do not >> email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting fixt I was >> speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and they informed >> me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users are beta >> testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with multiple >> users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time and time >> again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people >> complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only >> to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the apple >> beta software program and report what bugs they find , reporting these >> affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy beta testing >> everybody, >> Daniel Angus MacDonald >> >> >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if >>> you >>> use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the >>> errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you >>> can >>> repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me >>> know >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make >>> a >>> comprehensive list because these problems just started today or >>> yesterday. >>> I >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five days >>> ago >>> whenever the update was available. For some reason either I didn’t >>> notice, >>> or the problems were not occurring for the first few days. Can anyone >>> else >>> reproduce any or all of these issues? >>> >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes >>> just >>> holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I >>> am >>> scrolling through thousands of pages >>> This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also >>> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the >>> screen >>> and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as humanly >>> possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere >>> >>> >>> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could >>> flip >>> back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double >>> clicking >>> did nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at >>> all >>> resulted in her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the >>> power button and volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had >>> to >>> do a hard reset. For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you >>> do >>> this is quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side >>> power >>> button until your phone shows the Apple logo >>> >>> Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search >>> button continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list >>> of >>> folders or list of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up >>> the >>> message application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to >>> get >>> out of this is to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually >>> changing the focus to the list of text messages or list of emails or >>> whatever >>> >>> Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of >>> the >>> customizations for different functions, that is determining for each >>> type >>> of >>> activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those >>> customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played >>> >>> Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but >>> the >>> phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never >>> came >>> up >>> >>> >>> when the
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work on what is reported. Wayne On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald wrote: > hello, > > I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to the > masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them post > haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I urge all > experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, and then > join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this program > puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. they do not > email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting fixt I was > speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and they informed > me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users are beta > testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with multiple > users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time and time > again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people > complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only > to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the apple > beta software program and report what bugs they find , reporting these > affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy beta testing > everybody, > Daniel Angus MacDonald > > > On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: >> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if >> you >> use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the >> errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you can >> repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me know >> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am >> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make a >> comprehensive list because these problems just started today or yesterday. >> I >> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five days >> ago >> whenever the update was available. For some reason either I didn’t >> notice, >> or the problems were not occurring for the first few days. Can anyone >> else >> reproduce any or all of these issues? >> >> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes >> just >> holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I >> am >> scrolling through thousands of pages >> This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also >> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the screen >> and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as humanly >> possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere >> >> >> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could >> flip >> back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double >> clicking >> did nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at >> all >> resulted in her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the >> power button and volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had >> to >> do a hard reset. For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you >> do >> this is quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side >> power >> button until your phone shows the Apple logo >> >> Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search >> button continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list >> of >> folders or list of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up >> the >> message application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to >> get >> out of this is to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually >> changing the focus to the list of text messages or list of emails or >> whatever >> >> Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of the >> customizations for different functions, that is determining for each type >> of >> activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those >> customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played >> >> Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but >> the >> phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never came >> up >> >> >> when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be that >> flicking right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it sometimes >> clicks >> twice as if it is skipping and does not always read the full word, >> dictate. >> It interrupts itself like it struggling >> >> If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting add >> call >> takes you to the contact list so you can decide who else to add to the >>
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
hello, I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I urge all experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, and then join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this program puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the apple beta software program and report what bugs they find , reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: > good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if you > use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the > errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you can > repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me know > how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am > having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make a > comprehensive list because these problems just started today or yesterday. I > bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five days ago > whenever the update was available. For some reason either I didn’t notice, > or the problems were not occurring for the first few days. Can anyone else > reproduce any or all of these issues? > > Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes just > holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I am > scrolling through thousands of pages > This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also > occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the screen > and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as humanly > possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere > > > The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could flip > back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double clicking > did nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at all > resulted in her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the > power button and volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to > do a hard reset. For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do > this is quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side power > button until your phone shows the Apple logo > > Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search > button continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list of > folders or list of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up the > message application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to get > out of this is to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually > changing the focus to the list of text messages or list of emails or > whatever > > Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of the > customizations for different functions, that is determining for each type of > activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those > customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played > > Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but the > phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never came > up > > > when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be that > flicking right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it sometimes clicks > twice as if it is skipping and does not always read the full word, dictate. > It interrupts itself like it struggling > > If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting add call > takes you to the contact list so you can decide who else to add to the > conversation. However voiceover jumps around like a jack rabbit and will not > get off the first name in the alphabetical list of whatever group you were > looking at. No matter where are you touching the screen it’s stuttering and > only reads a portion of the first persons alphabetical name > > > When reading the content of a widget displayed on the home screen, flicking > upp down does not always bring up the options of next widget previous widget > or edit like it supposed to. > > I was just about ready to send this email, put my finger on the send button > flipped right in
RE: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
When on a stacked widget, are you checking that the roter is set to actions when the flicking up and down doesn't give you the next and previous widget options? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of James Lockwood > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:51 PM > To: IPhone Google Group > Subject: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 > > good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if you > use > voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the errors I > have > noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you can repeat any or all > of > these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me know how to contact Apple > voiceover support to report these problems. I am having several problems > with > voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make a comprehensive list because these > problems just started today or yesterday. I bought my iPhone 11 promax on > September 8. I updated four or five days ago whenever the update was > available. For some reason either I didn’t notice, or the problems were not > occurring for the first few days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of > these > issues? > > Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes just > holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I am > scrolling through thousands of pages This endless clicking when you hold your > finger down on the screen also occurs randomly and other apps when you simply > put a finger on the screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it > as > fast as humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere > > > The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could flip > back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double clicking did > nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at all > resulted in > her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the power button and > volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to do a hard reset. For > iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do this is quickly > pressing > volume up, volume down, then holding the side power button until your phone > shows the Apple logo > > Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search button > continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list of folders > or list > of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up the message > application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to get out of > this is > to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually changing the focus to > the list of text messages or list of emails or whatever > > Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of the > customizations for different functions, that is determining for each type of > activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those > customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played > > Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but the > phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never came up > > > when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be that > flicking > right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it sometimes clicks twice as > if it > is skipping and does not always read the full word, dictate. It interrupts > itself like > it struggling > > If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting add call > takes > you to the contact list so you can decide who else to add to the conversation. > However voiceover jumps around like a jack rabbit and will not get off the > first > name in the alphabetical list of whatever group you were looking at. No matter > where are you touching the screen it’s stuttering and only reads a portion of > the > first persons alphabetical name > > > When reading the content of a widget displayed on the home screen, flicking > upp down does not always bring up the options of next widget previous widget > or edit like it supposed to. > > I was just about ready to send this email, put my finger on the send button > flipped right in order to read the address carbon copy box in subject box, and > instead voiceover took me to the keyboard options for attach pictures etc. I > just > tried it again and the air did not occur. It’s very hit and miss on that one. > > The problem mentioned above with the dictate button has already been > explained. But I just remembered that because of this error, I deleted my > emoji > keyboard. Before the error was occurring but instead of stuttering over the > word dictate, it would say :-) :-) :-) even though I was on the letter > keyboard so > to be clear, I would have my finger on the enter key, decide I wanted to > dictate > some text, flipp to The right, and instead of
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
Hi, Focus problems is the #1 complaint with IOS 14. I'm using an iPhone 7. My focus problem areas are the app store & Safari, voiceovers focus jumps all over the place or gets stuck in an area. When a call comes in & I tap to answer, voiceover speaks whatever is on the screen for approximately 3secs. This started after I installed IOS 14. After tapping on an item or swiping, the phone lags in response. My last problem, I have only seen 1 other person report something similar, voiceover speaks the word "send" when I touch the status bar on the area of wifi (Send The Zoo 3 of 3 wifi bars), before folder names (Send word games folder) & in the area where I flick to go to the different pages of my apps (Send Page 1 of 2). These are the only voiceover problems that I have came across so far, since updating to IOS 14 on the day that it was released. Donna > > good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if you > use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the > errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you can > repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me know how > to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am having > several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make a > comprehensive list because these problems just started today or yesterday. I > bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five days ago > whenever the update was available. For some reason either I didn’t notice, or > the problems were not occurring for the first few days. Can anyone else > reproduce any or all of these issues? > > Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes just > holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I am > scrolling through thousands of pages > This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also > occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the screen and > don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as humanly possible > clicking thousands of times but going nowhere > > > The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could flip > back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double clicking > did nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at all > resulted in her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the > power button and volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to do > a hard reset. For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do this > is quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side power > button until your phone shows the Apple logo > > Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search > button continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list of > folders or list of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up the > message application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to get > out of this is to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually changing > the focus to the list of text messages or list of emails or whatever > > Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of the > customizations for different functions, that is determining for each type of > activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those > customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played > > Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but the > phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never came up > > > when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be that > flicking right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it sometimes clicks > twice as if it is skipping and does not always read the full word, dictate. > It interrupts itself like it struggling > > If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting add call > takes you to the contact list so you can decide who else to add to the > conversation. However voiceover jumps around like a jack rabbit and will not > get off the first name in the alphabetical list of whatever group you were > looking at. No matter where are you touching the screen it’s stuttering and > only reads a portion of the first persons alphabetical name > > > When reading the content of a widget displayed on the home screen, flicking > upp down does not always bring up the options of next widget previous widget > or edit like it supposed to. > > I was just about ready to send this email, put my finger on the send button > flipped right in order to read the address carbon copy box in subject box, > and instead voiceover took me to the keyboard options for attach pictures > etc. I just tried it again and the air did not occur. It’s very hit and miss > on that one. > > The problem
Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
Sounds like you've had a go of it. Contact Apple Accessibility by emailing: accessibil...@apple.com Another question: after installing iOS 14, did you clear the App Switcher and reboot your phone? In my experience, this goes a long way to getting rid of bugs or hick-ups that happen after an update. Perhaps this wouldn't fix all of your issues, but it may help some. If you did, then pardon the question; just problem solving. I've had a few focus issues, or times when VoiceOver jumped or wouldn't read a part of the screen. Good luck, Wayne Merritt On 9/23/20, James Lockwood wrote: > good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if you > use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the > errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you can > repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me know > how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am > having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make a > comprehensive list because these problems just started today or yesterday. I > bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five days ago > whenever the update was available. For some reason either I didn’t notice, > or the problems were not occurring for the first few days. Can anyone else > reproduce any or all of these issues? > > Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes just > holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I am > scrolling through thousands of pages > This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also > occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the screen > and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as humanly > possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere > > > The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could flip > back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double clicking > did nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at all > resulted in her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the > power button and volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to > do a hard reset. For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do > this is quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side power > button until your phone shows the Apple logo > > Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search > button continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list of > folders or list of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up the > message application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to get > out of this is to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually > changing the focus to the list of text messages or list of emails or > whatever > > Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of the > customizations for different functions, that is determining for each type of > activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those > customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played > > Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but the > phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never came > up > > > when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be that > flicking right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it sometimes clicks > twice as if it is skipping and does not always read the full word, dictate. > It interrupts itself like it struggling > > If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting add call > takes you to the contact list so you can decide who else to add to the > conversation. However voiceover jumps around like a jack rabbit and will not > get off the first name in the alphabetical list of whatever group you were > looking at. No matter where are you touching the screen it’s stuttering and > only reads a portion of the first persons alphabetical name > > > When reading the content of a widget displayed on the home screen, flicking > upp down does not always bring up the options of next widget previous widget > or edit like it supposed to. > > I was just about ready to send this email, put my finger on the send button > flipped right in order to read the address carbon copy box in subject box, > and instead voiceover took me to the keyboard options for attach pictures > etc. I just tried it again and the air did not occur. It’s very hit and > miss on that one. > > The problem mentioned above with the dictate button has already been > explained. But I just remembered that because of this error, I deleted my > emoji keyboard. Before the error was occurring but instead of stuttering > over the word dictate, it would say :-) :-) :-) even though I was on the > letter keyboard so to be clear, I would have my finger on
list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14
good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which ones. Also let me know how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I am having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to make a comprehensive list because these problems just started today or yesterday. I bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either I didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first few days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages This endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I could flip back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any app. double clicking did nothing. Siri would not do anything. Asking her to do anything at all resulted in her stating the obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the power button and volume did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to do a hard reset. For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do this is quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side power button until your phone shows the Apple logo Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the search button continuously flicking right does not change the focus to the list of folders or list of male messages. The same thing happens when opening up the message application. Focus get stuck on the search box. The only way to get out of this is to tap somewhere else on the screen there by manually changing the focus to the list of text messages or list of emails or whatever Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none of the customizations for different functions, that is determining for each type of activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to occur, none of those customizations have any effect. Sound and vibrations are always played Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens but the phone continues to read the home screen as if the app switcher never came up when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be that flicking right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it sometimes clicks twice as if it is skipping and does not always read the full word, dictate. It interrupts itself like it struggling If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting add call takes you to the contact list so you can decide who else to add to the conversation. However voiceover jumps around like a jack rabbit and will not get off the first name in the alphabetical list of whatever group you were looking at. No matter where are you touching the screen it’s stuttering and only reads a portion of the first persons alphabetical name When reading the content of a widget displayed on the home screen, flicking upp down does not always bring up the options of next widget previous widget or edit like it supposed to. I was just about ready to send this email, put my finger on the send button flipped right in order to read the address carbon copy box in subject box, and instead voiceover took me to the keyboard options for attach pictures etc. I just tried it again and the air did not occur. It’s very hit and miss on that one. The problem mentioned above with the dictate button has already been explained. But I just remembered that because of this error, I deleted my emoji keyboard. Before the error was occurring but instead of stuttering over the word dictate, it would say :-) :-) :-) even though I was on the letter keyboard so to be clear, I would have my finger on the enter key, decide I wanted to dictate some text, flipp to The right, and instead of the word dictate, it would say :-) :-) : Those are what I have noticed so far. There are likely more such as focus not being able to be switched off of the search box in the settings app and less you manually do it by putting your finger somewhere else on the screen. It seems the more I use the phone the more errors occur. Maybe I just didn’t notice these errors for the first few days because I was just blown away by the uniqueness of the iOS and fancy new phone, I upgraded from a iPhone 6s so it was a big difference, but I don’t think so. -- The following information is
