RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

Recently I have been receiving intermittent announcements of coupon - what is 
this all about?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: 01 January 2023 02:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on my 
iPhone 14 pro max.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 16.2, 
> and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  but 
> it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though they 
> weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[doug parisian]

I see no issue here with the numbers of various types of information and 
orientation apps out there like Blindsquare, goodmaps outdoors, etc. And 
damn, there may even be some folks out there willing to pick up the ball.



On 2023-01-01 7:34 a.m., Mo Khan wrote:

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the 
imminent demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number 
of comments and shares the post got, that I am not the only one who 
was shocked by the news.

Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the 
main reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t 
think very many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, 
which I have to say rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and 
how much we rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually 
works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we 
can get Microsoft to change it’s mind.


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Re: coupon announcments on my iPhone

[deidre muccio]

Wow, well that’s one more reason I don’t want to update to higher versions of 
16! You might try going into notifications and making sure that receiving 
notifications from Apple is turned off.

Deirdre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2023, at 7:04 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> What is odd is that my sighted husband could not see the word coupon written 
> on the screen.
> Yes, a happy new year to everyone an any thanks for all the help you have 
> offered during the past year.
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: 01 January 2023 11:52
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone
> 
> I have been wondering about this too. I have an iPhone 13 mini running 
> 16.1.2. (I am at this moment updating to 16.2.) Sometimes when I flick around 
> I hear the word "coupon" spoken. Or sometimes it is the word "logo." I make 
> sure that screen recognition is turned off. One day it was so bad I shut down 
> the phone and came back up. After that it was all right for a while, but 
> randomly it starts doing it again. It can be somewhat annoying.
> 
> Thanks for any help and Happy New Year!
> 
> Debby 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
> AA MAY
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2023 5:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone
> 
> Recently I have been receiving intermittent announcements of coupon - what is 
> this all about?
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: 01 January 2023 02:02
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on 
> my iPhone 14 pro max.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
>>> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 
>>> 16.2, and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>>> 
>>> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
>>> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  
>>> but it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though 
>>> they weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn 
>>> wrote:
>>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>>> 
>>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>>> 
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Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[Mo Khan]

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the
imminent demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number of
comments and shares the post got, that I am not the only one who was
shocked by the news.
Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the main
reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t think
very many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, which I
have to say rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and how
much we rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually
works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we can
get Microsoft to change it’s mind.

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RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

[Debby]

I have been wondering about this too. I have an iPhone 13 mini running 16.1.2. 
(I am at this moment updating to 16.2.) Sometimes when I flick around I hear 
the word "coupon" spoken. Or sometimes it is the word "logo." I make sure that 
screen recognition is turned off. One day it was so bad I shut down the phone 
and came back up. After that it was all right for a while, but randomly it 
starts doing it again. It can be somewhat annoying.

Thanks for any help and Happy New Year!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2023 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

Recently I have been receiving intermittent announcements of coupon - what is 
this all about?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: 01 January 2023 02:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on my 
iPhone 14 pro max.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 16.2, 
> and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  but 
> it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though they 
> weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>> 
> 
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RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

What is odd is that my sighted husband could not see the word coupon written on 
the screen.
Yes, a happy new year to everyone an any thanks for all the help you have 
offered during the past year.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: 01 January 2023 11:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

I have been wondering about this too. I have an iPhone 13 mini running 16.1.2. 
(I am at this moment updating to 16.2.) Sometimes when I flick around I hear 
the word "coupon" spoken. Or sometimes it is the word "logo." I make sure that 
screen recognition is turned off. One day it was so bad I shut down the phone 
and came back up. After that it was all right for a while, but randomly it 
starts doing it again. It can be somewhat annoying.

Thanks for any help and Happy New Year!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2023 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

Recently I have been receiving intermittent announcements of coupon - what is 
this all about?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: 01 January 2023 02:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on my 
iPhone 14 pro max.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 16.2, 
> and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  but 
> it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though they 
> weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>> 
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RE: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[michv]

Hi another idea to getting ms to change it’s mind about the demise of sound 
skape might be to start a potission on something like change.org from Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo Khan
Sent: January 1, 2023 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

 

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the imminent 
demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number of comments and 
shares the post got, that I am not the only one who was shocked by the news.
Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the main 
reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t think very 
many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, which I have to say 
rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and how much we 
rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we can get 
Microsoft to change it’s mind.

 

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RE: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[Richard Turner]

It could be useful to post a good email address to contact someone at Microsoft 
about this.

 

Of course, folks can call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 at least in the 
US and I suspect Canada, but what about other places?

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo Khan
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

 

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the imminent 
demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number of comments and 
shares the post got, that I am not the only one who was shocked by the news.
Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the main 
reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t think very 
many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, which I have to say 
rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and how much we 
rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we can get 
Microsoft to change it’s mind.

 

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RE: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[Fazil M.]

Yes, we can call too from Canada.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2023 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

 

It could be useful to post a good email address to contact someone at Microsoft 
about this.

 

Of course, folks can call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 at least in the 
US and I suspect Canada, but what about other places?

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mo 
Khan
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

 

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the imminent 
demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number of comments and 
shares the post got, that I am not the only one who was shocked by the news.
Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the main 
reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t think very 
many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, which I have to say 
rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and how much we 
rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we can get 
Microsoft to change it’s mind.

 

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RE: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[Richard Turner]

I think if people want to pester Microsoft to try and keep SoundScape that is 
fine, but the real truth is they have decided they have all the research 
findings they want from SoundScape, so they are done with it and are happily 
making the source code available to anyone who wants to do something with it.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

 

I see no issue here with the numbers of various types of information and 
orientation apps out there like Blindsquare, goodmaps outdoors, etc. And damn, 
there may even be some folks out there willing to pick up the ball.

 

On 2023-01-01 7:34 a.m., Mo Khan wrote:

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the imminent 
demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number of comments and 
shares the post got, that I am not the only one who was shocked by the news.
Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the main 
reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t think very 
many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, which I have to say 
rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and how much we 
rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we can get 
Microsoft to change it’s mind.

 

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Re: Reading Kindle Books in Braille

[Anna Dresner]

Hello Kelly,

I’m using a Brailliant BI 40 X with the latest beta on a 2020 iPhone SE. With 
automatic panning on, I don’t have to do anything when switching pages in a 
Kindle book; when I get to the bottom of one page, it switches to the next one 
automatically. The braille commands for switching pages are O with Space to go 
to the next one and OW-sign with Space to go to the previous one. I think you 
said you were using a Mantis, and I don’t know what the equivalent commands 
would be.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 31, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Could someone remind me what you need to do to read a Kindle book in braille 
> with VoiceOver? Specifically, how do you move to the next page in a book.
> 
> When I use panning keys I can read through the text on a given page but that 
> doesn’t seem to cross to the next page. And the next item command doesn’t 
> bring up the next page.
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tape measure

[Janet Bell]

Please forgive this if you think it is a silly question but can someone 
tell me how long a tape measure is in America please?  the reason is 
that on my Alexa the daily riddle was what is long and flat and has four 
feet.  the answer was a tape measure.  In the UK a tape measure is five 
feet long.  so I was just wondereing how long they are in America.


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RE: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

[Carolyn]

I have heard a lot of complaints about it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

I would also love to know why you don’t want to update to 16.2. I had it and 
didn’t experience many problems with. 13 pro max and a 14 pro max.

Thanks,

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi 


On Dec 31, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  
wrote:



Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 31, 2022, at 1:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Joshua,

I am sorry to learn that you are having problems with iOS 16.2 
and iPhone 13.

Can you please list a few of these problems as I know of at 
least 2 local VoiceOver users who are preparing to buy 13 models and I am 
certain they would appreciate any items you could share.

List member Sieghard, as many will recall, just purchased an 
iPhone 13 Pro and I do not believe he has listed any OS problems with his 
phone, yet.

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

AIm not having any problems with my Iphone 13 pro max and 
version 16.2.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 30, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't 
go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have 
heard too much about 16.2, and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Stewart McKay
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have 
the sounds as well.  i haven't updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is 
saying i will lose them too.  but it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 
they were enabled even though they weren't supposed to be for my model On 
12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are 
only on the 14 models.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Dennis Long
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Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  
Thanks.



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RE: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

[Carolyn]

My guess would be not his 13 model phone, but 16.2 I do not intend to update to 
it, will skip it until 16.3. 

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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones



Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2022, at 1:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Joshua,
> 
> I am sorry to learn that you are having problems with iOS 16.2 and iPhone 13.
> 
> Can you please list a few of these problems as I know of at least 2 local 
> VoiceOver users who are preparing to buy 13 models and I am certain they 
> would appreciate any items you could share.
> 
> List member Sieghard, as many will recall, just purchased an iPhone 13 Pro 
> and I do not believe he has listed any OS problems with his phone, yet.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 10:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> AIm not having any problems with my Iphone 13 pro max and version 16.2.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
>>> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 
>>> 16.2, and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>>> 
>>> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
>>> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  
>>> but it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though 
>>> they weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn 
>>> wrote:
>>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>>> 
>>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
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RE: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

[Carolyn]

That is good to hear about 16.2. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on my 
iPhone 14 pro max.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 16.2, 
> and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  but 
> it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though they 
> weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>> 
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RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Allison,

I have not encountered any coupon announcements on my 14.

Keep in mind, however, that I have only experienced 16.2 and no earlier version 
of iOS 16.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: coupon announcments on my iPhone

Recently I have been receiving intermittent announcements of coupon - what is 
this all about?
Alison


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: 01 January 2023 02:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on my 
iPhone 14 pro max.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 16.2, 
> and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  but 
> it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though they 
> weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Mike B.]

Hi Margaret,

Yes, turn group conversationing off.

Yes, turn shared with you off.  This has something to do with conten that is 
shared with you will also be shared with certain apps, whatever the hell 
that means!

Yes, you can remove mentions from the rotor.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: V iPhone list
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2023 11:24 AM
Subject: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone


Good Afternoon, All:

I'm hoping someone can help me tame  a couple things in the iPhone
messages app that have been annoying me.

When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or
mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor.  My search so far
shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations
and if I am mentioned.  I do not participate in any group conversations.
  Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off.
Group conversationing is on.  Am I correct that I want to turn it off?
Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not
thrilled about it.  Could someone explain this better?

One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me setting as
off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group
conversation."  I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many
unwanted message, so, at this point,  don't see the need to mute.

To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?

Any help is much appreciated,

Margaret

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Re: tape measure

[Holly]

I know that cloth or plastic measuring tapes are usually 5' long, but metal 
mechanical carpenter tapes can come in many different lengths. 


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RE: tape measure

[Carolyn]

Really, Chris? I know this isn't the right list for it, but I'd be curious to 
know. 

4carol...@windstream.net

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 3:56 PM
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I know in Canada measuring tapes come in many different lengths.

Chris Judge


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tape measure

Please forgive this if you think it is a silly question but can someone tell me 
how long a tape measure is in America please?  the reason is that on my Alexa 
the daily riddle was what is long and flat and has four feet.  the answer was a 
tape measure.  In the UK a tape measure is five feet long.  so I was just 
wondereing how long they are in America.

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RE: tape measure

[Carolyn]

Mine is 5 feet long, and I live in the U.S. 

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Please forgive this if you think it is a silly question but can someone tell me 
how long a tape measure is in America please?  the reason is that on my Alexa 
the daily riddle was what is long and flat and has four feet.  the answer was a 
tape measure.  In the UK a tape measure is five feet long.  so I was just 
wondereing how long they are in America.

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RE: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alex,

I agree with you.  I have not experienced one single glitch with iOS 16.2 on my 
14.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones

Carolyn, a lot of people are whingeing about 16.2, but it’s working fine on my 
iPhone 14 pro max.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 00:05, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If I were you and had the sounds, I wouldn't go to 16.2; wait for 16.3. I 
> have a 14 Pro, so will have the tones, but I have heard too much about 16.2, 
> and do not intend to update until 16.3 is available. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stewart McKay
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
> 
> funny but i havbe an iphone eight and i have the sounds as well.  i haven't 
> updated to 16.2 yet but if what everyone is saying i will lose them too.  but 
> it is strange that when i updated to 16.1 they were enabled even though they 
> weren't supposed to be for my model On 12/30/2022 1:15 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> I think that both Start Up and Shut Down are only on the 14 models.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone startup and shutdown tones
>> 
>> Are they available on the iPhone 13 pro?  Thanks.
>> 
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A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different than on other Apps

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I have noticed that when making Facetime calls on my 14, via wired Apple
Earpods, the audio output is different than it is when I am listening to
audio anywhere else in the OS.  The audio sounds is kind of spacial, or
something.  

This is not the case when making Facetime calls on my beloved 8 Plus running
iOS 15.x.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, is there a way to disable it?  I am
not a huge fan of spacial audio, at least, not at this point.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Locking the Display on iPhone 14 Pro Max with a VoiceOver Gesture, not the Power Button: A Great Solution for Southpaws Like Me

[M. Taylor]

Hi All,

I my beloved 8 Plus, I had the display set to automatically lock after 30
seconds.

On the 14, with Face ID enabled, I find it more practical to set the auto
lock to 1 minute.

However, as I become more and more proficient with both the physical device
and the OS, rarely do I need the extra time afforded by the longer display
time.  

As a result, I prefer to lock the display, manually, by using the phone's
power button, located on the right side of the device.

I always hold the phone in my left hand.

Given that I am a southpaw, along with the native physical size of the Pro
Max, increased by the addition of the folio case, and using the power button
to lock the display becomes less streamline than on a smaller device.  In
short, pressing the power button, in the case, takes more effort than I
expected.

The solution for me?  I set a VoiceOver gesture command, a 4-finger single
tap, to lock the display.

Using this command means that I no longer have to locate the power button
with a finger on my right hand and press it in order to lock the display.

I am posting this to remind everyone that if you feel that you may want to
increase any given task on iPhone, check to see if there is a solution in
the VoiceOver gesture commands area of accessability.

Mark


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RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different than on other Apps

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Hi, would this be what you are talking about?  I found it in a message from 
Tony Sweeney.
> VoiceOver Quiz + Answers in iOS 16: Rita’s iDevice Advice for December
> 61. What is "Voice isolation mode and how do you enable it when on > FaceTime 
> calls?
>
> Answer: Voice isolation in FaceTime uses Machine Learning to block 
> unwanted background noise in FaceTime video/voice calls. It’s not 
> limited to FaceTime calls only. Apple will allow third-party apps to 
> utilize the tech for seamless audio calls.
> When on a call, go to the Control Center (on newer phones, swipe down 
> from the top-right corner) and hold down on the Mic. There you can 
> turn on voice isolation, which will decrease background noise, such as 
> a dog barking or other environmental sounds. This will work in other 
> video-calling apps, too, and will help even if you're wearing AirPods.
> The Voice Isolation mode for your microphone, separates your voice 
> from any distracting background noise that might be on the call
> • Launch the FaceTime app and initiate a video call.
> • Open Control Center with a diagonal swipe down from the top-right 
> corner of your screen.
> • Tap the Mic Mode button, top-right.
> • Tap Voice Isolation to enable it.
> • Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to dismiss Control Center and 
> return to the call
> There are two other Voice Isolation Modes: Standard or Wide Spectrum
> To disable Voice Isolation and use Standard or Wide Spectrum mode, 
> simply repeat the above steps and choose one of the different Voice 
> Isolation modes for the Mic.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hello Everyone,

I have noticed that when making Facetime calls on my 14, via wired Apple 
Earpods, the audio output is different than it is when I am listening to audio 
anywhere else in the OS.  The audio sounds is kind of spacial, or something.  

This is not the case when making Facetime calls on my beloved 8 Plus running 
iOS 15.x.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, is there a way to disable it?  I am 
not a huge fan of spacial audio, at least, not at this point.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: tape measure

[chrisjudge1967]

I know in Canada measuring tapes come in many different lengths.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: January 1, 2023 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tape measure

Please forgive this if you think it is a silly question but can someone tell me 
how long a tape measure is in America please?  the reason is that on my Alexa 
the daily riddle was what is long and flat and has four feet.  the answer was a 
tape measure.  In the UK a tape measure is five feet long.  so I was just 
wondereing how long they are in America.

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Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Margaret Thomas]

Good Afternoon, All:

I'm hoping someone can help me tame  a couple things in the iPhone 
messages app that have been annoying me.


When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or 
mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor.  My search so far 
shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations 
and if I am mentioned.  I do not participate in any group conversations. 
 Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off. 
Group conversationing is on.  Am I correct that I want to turn it off? 
Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not 
thrilled about it.  Could someone explain this better?


One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me setting as 
off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group 
conversation."  I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many 
unwanted message, so, at this point,  don't see the need to mute.


To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?

Any help is much appreciated,

Margaret

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RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different than on other Apps

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marilyn,

Thank you for re-posting this.

While interesting, this did not pinpoint the source of the enhanced audio in 
face time.

However, I was able to determine that the new audio sound, when in Face Time, 
is a function of the 14 and not of the OS.

iOS 16.2 on the 11, the iPad, and a couple of other phones does not reproduce 
the effect.  The effect has nothing to do with VoiceOver, either.

I was able to contact a friend, who also recently purchased iPhone 14 Pro and 
he confirmed the enhanced sound effect which, is not bad; it just makes the 
person on the other end sound as though they are in the same room as you are.  
I know, I know, I should be pleased, right?  Put it down to me being a man who 
does not like unexpected or unexplained change (big smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marilyn 
and Don Bilderback
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hi, would this be what you are talking about?  I found it in a message from 
Tony Sweeney.
> VoiceOver Quiz + Answers in iOS 16: Rita’s iDevice Advice for December 
> 61. What is "Voice isolation mode and how do you enable it when on > FaceTime 
> calls?
>
> Answer: Voice isolation in FaceTime uses Machine Learning to block 
> unwanted background noise in FaceTime video/voice calls. It’s not 
> limited to FaceTime calls only. Apple will allow third-party apps to 
> utilize the tech for seamless audio calls.
> When on a call, go to the Control Center (on newer phones, swipe down 
> from the top-right corner) and hold down on the Mic. There you can 
> turn on voice isolation, which will decrease background noise, such as 
> a dog barking or other environmental sounds. This will work in other 
> video-calling apps, too, and will help even if you're wearing AirPods.
> The Voice Isolation mode for your microphone, separates your voice 
> from any distracting background noise that might be on the call • 
> Launch the FaceTime app and initiate a video call.
> • Open Control Center with a diagonal swipe down from the top-right 
> corner of your screen.
> • Tap the Mic Mode button, top-right.
> • Tap Voice Isolation to enable it.
> • Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to dismiss Control Center and 
> return to the call There are two other Voice Isolation Modes: Standard 
> or Wide Spectrum To disable Voice Isolation and use Standard or Wide 
> Spectrum mode, simply repeat the above steps and choose one of the 
> different Voice Isolation modes for the Mic.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about Facetime Audio Output in iOS16.2: It is Different 
than on other Apps

Hello Everyone,

I have noticed that when making Facetime calls on my 14, via wired Apple 
Earpods, the audio output is different than it is when I am listening to audio 
anywhere else in the OS.  The audio sounds is kind of spacial, or something.  

This is not the case when making Facetime calls on my beloved 8 Plus running 
iOS 15.x.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, is there a way to disable it?  I am 
not a huge fan of spacial audio, at least, not at this point.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: Locking the Display on iPhone 14 Pro Max with a VoiceOver Gesture, not the Power Button: A Great Solution for Southpaws Like Me

[M. Taylor]

Hello Mohamed ,

I like your configuration.

I use the triple back tap to invert the colors.  I use the double back tap to 
return to the home screen.

It is interesting to learn how different people use the commands.  Bravo to 
Apple for giving us some choices.

Mark

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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mohamed Fayed
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 8:57 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Locking the Display on iPhone 14 Pro Max with a VoiceOver Gesture, 
not the Power Button: A Great Solution for Southpaws Like Me

Hi,

My solution to prevent the usage of power button at all is to use back tap 
feature on my iPhone 10s.

In settings > accessibility > touch > back tap, turn it on.

For double tap, it turns the screen off, and for triple tap, it toggles Siri 
(you may also open Google Assistant that way).

I can reach the iPhone’s power button, but tapping the back of the iPhone with 
a finger is easier to me.

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed 

> On 2 Jan 2023, at 3:11 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I my beloved 8 Plus, I had the display set to automatically lock after 
> 30 seconds.
> 
> On the 14, with Face ID enabled, I find it more practical to set the 
> auto lock to 1 minute.
> 
> However, as I become more and more proficient with both the physical 
> device and the OS, rarely do I need the extra time afforded by the 
> longer display time.
> 
> As a result, I prefer to lock the display, manually, by using the 
> phone's power button, located on the right side of the device.
> 
> I always hold the phone in my left hand.
> 
> Given that I am a southpaw, along with the native physical size of the 
> Pro Max, increased by the addition of the folio case, and using the 
> power button to lock the display becomes less streamline than on a 
> smaller device.  In short, pressing the power button, in the case, 
> takes more effort than I expected.
> 
> The solution for me?  I set a VoiceOver gesture command, a 4-finger 
> single tap, to lock the display.
> 
> Using this command means that I no longer have to locate the power 
> button with a finger on my right hand and press it in order to lock the 
> display.
> 
> I am posting this to remind everyone that if you feel that you may 
> want to increase any given task on iPhone, check to see if there is a 
> solution in the VoiceOver gesture commands area of accessability.
> 
> Mark
> 
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