Re: MMK manual wanted

2004-12-17 Thread Thomas Pfau
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Hi.  I need a copy of the MMK manual suitable for reading on a Unix machine.  
I tried using the one in the MMK.zip archive.  The text file was full of
nulls and the postscript docs were corrupt.

Could someone convert the documentation into a Unixy text file?  It would
help with MakeMaker development.
 

Try http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/mmk_doc.ps or 
http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/mmk_doc.txt.



Re: MMK manual wanted

2004-12-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
At 8:47 AM -0500 12/17/04, Thomas Pfau wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:

Hi.  I need a copy of the MMK manual suitable for reading on a Unix machine.  
I tried using the one in the MMK.zip archive.  The text file was full of
nulls and the postscript docs were corrupt.

Could someone convert the documentation into a Unixy text file?  It would
help with MakeMaker development.
 
Try http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/mmk_doc.ps or 
http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/mmk_doc.txt.


That should get you going.  However, the MMK documentation tends to
emphasize those areas that are different from the commercial product
MMS.  99% of the MMS manual is also applicable to MMK, and you can
get the MMS manual at:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73FINAL/5825/5825_.htm

or in PDF form at:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73FINAL/5825/5825_pro.pdf



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Craig A. Berry
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... getting out of a sonnet is much more
 difficult than getting in.
 Brad Leithauser


Re: MMK manual wanted

2004-12-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 08:17:25AM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote:
 That should get you going.  However, the MMK documentation tends to
 emphasize those areas that are different from the commercial product
 MMS.  99% of the MMS manual is also applicable to MMK, and you can
 get the MMS manual at:
 
 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73FINAL/5825/5825_.htm
 
 or in PDF form at:
 
 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73FINAL/5825/5825_pro.pdf

Thank you all.  Now I have the set.  I've posted them up here so I don't
lose them again.  http://www.makemaker.org/make_docs/


-- 
Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/
Great minds think.


Re: MMK manual wanted

2004-12-17 Thread John E. Malmberg
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Thank you all.  Now I have the set.  I've posted them up here so I don't
lose them again.  http://www.makemaker.org/make_docs/
Unless you get written permission from HP to serve a copy of their 
documentation, you are in violation of their copyright.

I would recommend just posting a link to 
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/ and removing the link to the copy on 
your server.

The /h*.www*.hp.com/ style URLs are subject to change with out 
notice.

-John
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Personal Opinion Only



Re: MMK manual wanted

2004-12-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:24:06PM -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote:
 Thank you all.  Now I have the set.  I've posted them up here so I don't
 lose them again.  http://www.makemaker.org/make_docs/
 
 Unless you get written permission from HP to serve a copy of their 
 documentation, you are in violation of their copyright.

I realized that and I have put up a summary of my position on this issue on 
the make_docs page.


 I would recommend just posting a link to 
 http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/ and removing the link to the copy on 
 your server.

I can never find the MMS documentation off that page nor with the search 
nor with google.  What's the magic keyword?


 The /h*.www*.hp.com/ style URLs are subject to change with out 
 notice.

I can't figure out a cannonical version, one of the reasons I'm mirroring 
the docs.


-- 
Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/
Do you have a map? Because I keep getting lost in your armpits.


Re: MMK manual wanted

2004-12-17 Thread John E. Malmberg
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:24:06PM -0500, John E. Malmberg wrote:
Thank you all.  Now I have the set.  I've posted them up here so I don't
lose them again.  http://www.makemaker.org/make_docs/
Unless you get written permission from HP to serve a copy of their 
documentation, you are in violation of their copyright.
I realized that and I have put up a summary of my position on this issue on 
the make_docs page.
I have no idea what HP's position would be.  For most of HP's customers, 
there is a risk that HP will decide to stop putting updates on their web 
pages.

The DECset documentation was just recently added to the web site after 
the HP merger with Compaq.

I would recommend just posting a link to 
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/ and removing the link to the copy on 
your server.
 
I can never find the MMS documentation off that page nor with the search 
nor with google.  What's the magic keyword?
Digital Module Management System
At that page, part way down on what on Mozilla is the Left side, there 
is a link to DECset for OpenVMS

That product is likely to be rebranded in the future to HPset for 
OpenVMS, or something similar.

Following that link gets you to what today is:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/decset.html
And part way down is the Guide to Digital Module Management System
Putting that string in http://www.google.com seems to indicate that 
there are many third party sites serving the HP OpenVMS documentation.

In the past when I have followed the third party links, I have found 
that almost all of them are giving me 404 errors.

-John
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