Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP?
In Illinois, it's both, with a strong preference to SIP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Paul Timmins" To: "Rob Verk" , "Mike Hammett" Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 2:16:21 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? INDigital's system they built with Penninsula FiberNet in Michigan is SIP, with private ethernet connectivity to PFN's switches (not public IP networks). Not sure about other states. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Rob Verk Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 2:55 PM To: Mike Hammett Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? Is the interconnection TDM or IP? I did not see much on their site. I did see they provide services in a few States. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 3:15 PM To: Rob Verk Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? You'll It'll likely vary state-by-state. Here in Illinois, we're migrating from a traditional model to an NG911 platform by INDigital. You can only interconnect with INDigital at a few locations, none of them in-LATA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Rob Verk" To: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:01:58 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? I have been out of the game for about 20 years and now I am back. I have a lot to catch up on but I'm hoping this listserv can help me out. I have a few questions * Is it possible to interconnect directly with a PSAP? * Is a CLEC license/agreement still required? * Is this interconnection still only offered via TDM or is IP/SIP an option? Thanks for your help. Rob ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP?
INDigital's system they built with Penninsula FiberNet in Michigan is SIP, with private ethernet connectivity to PFN's switches (not public IP networks). Not sure about other states. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Rob Verk Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 2:55 PM To: Mike Hammett Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? Is the interconnection TDM or IP? I did not see much on their site. I did see they provide services in a few States. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 3:15 PM To: Rob Verk Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? You'll It'll likely vary state-by-state. Here in Illinois, we're migrating from a traditional model to an NG911 platform by INDigital. You can only interconnect with INDigital at a few locations, none of them in-LATA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Rob Verk" To: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:01:58 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? I have been out of the game for about 20 years and now I am back. I have a lot to catch up on but I'm hoping this listserv can help me out. I have a few questions * Is it possible to interconnect directly with a PSAP? * Is a CLEC license/agreement still required? * Is this interconnection still only offered via TDM or is IP/SIP an option? Thanks for your help. Rob ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP?
You'll It'll likely vary state-by-state. Here in Illinois, we're migrating from a traditional model to an NG911 platform by INDigital. You can only interconnect with INDigital at a few locations, none of them in-LATA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Rob Verk" To: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:01:58 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? I have been out of the game for about 20 years and now I am back. I have a lot to catch up on but I'm hoping this listserv can help me out. I have a few questions * Is it possible to interconnect directly with a PSAP? * Is a CLEC license/agreement still required? * Is this interconnection still only offered via TDM or is IP/SIP an option? Thanks for your help. Rob ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP?
Thanks, My preference would be not to use intrado or intelliquent because at the end of the day we are going to build our own E911 product. I pulled up a list of the different PSAPs in Michigan and I see the contact details of the administrator of PSAP but not necessarily the LEC or carrier providing 911. Is the information aggregated anywhere? Perhaps it's my old view of thinking but I've never known a LEC to do anything unless they were obligated to do so by regulation and even when they are a lot of times it's an uphill battle. From the brief bit of research, I have done it looks like an interconnected voice over IP provider needs to offer 911/E911 services. What was not clear to me is if that entitles them to enter into interconnection agreements or if the 911 services need to come from there host provider. My end role as we build out this product is direct interconnection to the PSAPs and the ability to update the E911 database directly. From: Paul Timmins Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 9:06 PM To: Rob Verk Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP? The answer to all 3 is, it depends. Generally there are non clec ways to attach to 911 directly (the exact process will have to be worked out by talking to the carrier providing 911 in that area) (or indirectly through the likes of intrado or intelliquent) and at least in Michigan, the carrier who won 911 contracts throughout Michigan actually is native IP on the network, and TDM connectivity is an upcharge. On Jul 4, 2021 19:05, Rob Verk wrote: I have been out of the game for about 20 years and now I am back. I have a lot to catch up on but I'm hoping this listserv can help me out. I have a few questions * Is it possible to interconnect directly with a PSAP? * Is a CLEC license/agreement still required? * Is this interconnection still only offered via TDM or is IP/SIP an option? Thanks for your help. Rob ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Re: [VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP?
The answer to all 3 is, it depends. Generally there are non clec ways to attach to 911 directly (the exact process will have to be worked out by talking to the carrier providing 911 in that area) (or indirectly through the likes of intrado or intelliquent) and at least in Michigan, the carrier who won 911 contracts throughout Michigan actually is native IP on the network, and TDM connectivity is an upcharge. On Jul 4, 2021 19:05, Rob Verk wrote: I have been out of the game for about 20 years and now I am back. I have a lot to catch up on but I'm hoping this listserv can help me out. I have a few questions * Is it possible to interconnect directly with a PSAP? * Is a CLEC license/agreement still required? * Is this interconnection still only offered via TDM or is IP/SIP an option? Thanks for your help. Rob ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
[VoiceOps] interconnect directly with a PSAP?
I have been out of the game for about 20 years and now I am back. I have a lot to catch up on but I'm hoping this listserv can help me out. I have a few questions * Is it possible to interconnect directly with a PSAP? * Is a CLEC license/agreement still required? * Is this interconnection still only offered via TDM or is IP/SIP an option? Thanks for your help. Rob ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
