RE: Herbal medicine

2005-08-12 Thread temalloy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

and Jed Rothwell responded;

While I hate to agree with Park about anything, recent 
reports that 
echinacea is ineffective seem to be based on careful 
research.

and John Rudiger responded

# The problem with identifying the key active ingredient 
for the purpose
of synthetic production is that you don't know what role all 
the other

The key word here is synthetic. The drug companies have 
to create a new molocule so that they can patent it. The 
synergestic effect of the other molocules probably 
contributes too. Then there is the energy aspect. the plant 
derived chemicals have an aura from the living system 
which produced them, IMHO this contributes to the effect 
too. 

chemicals in the original medicinal herb play. In many 
Homeopathic remedies

Don't confuse the chemical effects of the phytochemicals in 
the herbal material with the energy effects of the 
homeopathic remedy. 

even non-active chemicals in the herbal medicine play an 
important
(catalytic) role in support of the active ingredient.

It is a shame that the majority of people alive today in the 
western world
have forgotten how to use herbal/homeopathic type 
remedies which now days

The establishment has done it's best to miseducate the 
public on this as they do in everything else. 

come under the title of old wives tales, alternative 
medicine or crackpot
medicine!

If an enemy force had done to America what the education 
establishment has done, we would consider it an act of 
war!






500 MW Solar Installation Coming to California

2005-08-12 Thread John Coviello



This is an incredible story. Using concentrated solar and 
the old Stirling Engine, a major Southern California utility just signed on to 
the biggest solar project in American history, a utility scale installation in 
the desert of California that will produce 500 MW and potentially 850 MW for 
around 6 cents perkWH. This will prove we can switch to alternative 
energy.

Steampunk Solar Power August 11, 2005A new agreement was just 
signed by Southern California Edison to guarantee 20 years' purchase of 
electricity from a new 4,500 acre solar farm to be built near Victorville, 
California. The farm will initially be designed to put out 500 megawatts, but 
can be expanded to 850 megawatts. This will represent the largest solar 
power facility in the world, and will put out more electricity than all other US 
solar projects combined. Funny thing, though -- it won't use a single 
photovoltaic cell.Instead, these solar power generators will use a 
nearly 200 year old bit of technology: the Stirling Engine.Pretty 
much every time we post something about solar concentrators or home cogeneration 
or somesuch, we get a series of comments about the neglected beauty of Stirling 
Engines. Admittedly, Stirling Engines -- first invented in 1816 by Scottish 
clergyman Robert Stirling -- are quite elegant. Here's the Wikipedia entry on 
how they work:The Stirling engine works by the repeated heating and 
cooling of a sealed amount of working gas, usually air or other gases such as 
hydrogen or helium. The gas follows the behaviour described by the gas laws 
which describe how a gas' pressure, temperature and volume are related. When the 
gas is heated, because it is in a sealed chamber, the pressure rises and this 
then acts on the power piston to produce a power stroke. When the gas is cooled 
the pressure drops and this means that less work needs to be done by the piston 
to recompress the gas on the return stroke, giving a net gain in power available 
on the shaft. The working gas flows cyclically between the hot and cold heat 
exchangers. The working gas is sealed within the piston cylinders, so there 
is no exhaust gas, (other than that incidental to heat production if combustion 
is used as the heat source). No valves are required, unlike other types of 
piston engines. [...] The ideal Stirling engine cycle has the same theoretical 
efficiency as a Carnot heat engine for the same input and output temperatures. 
The thermodynamic efficiency is higher than steam engines (or even some modern 
internal combustion and Diesel engines).Stirling Energy Systems has 
been working on solar power generation units for 20 years, but this is the first 
serious implementation of the design. The SES website has a particularly useful 
visualization of how the systems work (screen capture to the left), and it's one 
of those systems that seems almost too good to be true. If it's so simple, so 
straightforward, why hasn't it been done before? Parsing through the Stirling 
Energy Systems website, it seems the answer is cost; until recently, putting 
together reliable, functional systems able to produce utility-scale amounts of 
power remained simply too expensive. If all goes well, the 20,000 dish 
system should be fully online by 2010. However, because of the modular nature of 
the units, the farm will start generating power as soon as the first unit is 
plugged into the grid. The cost of the project wasn't mentioned in the stories, 
but I saw a so-far unconfirmed report that power from this system is expected 
to run ~$.06/kWh, making it competitive with most other sources.http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003285.html#more


Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread John Coviello
I think the oil companies are terrified of plug-in hybrids.  They opposed 
and defeated a very modest 1 MPG rise in gas mileage standards over a decade 
for American vehicles on the eve of the Iraq war.  They know every 1 MPG of 
efficiency cuts into their bottom line.  The last thing they want is
vehicles getting four or five times their current gas mileage and they've 
set their Public Relations hacks lose against plug-in hybrids.  This is the 
biggest threat to their markets ever.  Also, plug-in hybrids are just a step 
away from full electric cars which would decimate their markets.  Don't
expect any help from the oil companies.  Kudos to the tinkerers for pushing 
the plug-in issue by proving it can be done in the real world.


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John Rudiger posted;


If a bunch of hobbyists can upgrade a brand new product

straight off the

production line to the extent they have then in who's best

interests were

these vehicles designed/produced in the first place?


There are several potential explanations, engineers
particularly ones who work for a bureaucracy, are
conservative. fear of lawsuits, environmental
considerations, cost considerations.


To put it another way. Why were these vehicles under

engineered to todays

technical abilities?


See above.





RE: Herbal medicine

2005-08-12 Thread Zell, Chris
 

-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:27 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Herbal medicine

Chris Zell wrote:

In a word, no, no, no, no, no

Supplements can't be fairly regulated because the ENORMOUS bias of 
money distorts the whole subject. . .

Let me add no, no, no, no, hell no!

I have good reasons for absolutely opposing the FDA/Drug Cabal - and so
do the American people.  Congress was shocked by the sheer volume of 
mail they received on the subject of supplement regulation (DSHEA) -
supposedly only exceeded by mail during the war in Vietnam. Why?
because they know (some) alternatives work - and they rightfully observe
corrupt government agencies prostituting themselves to drug companies.

Note the situation with Canadian phamacies - in which Bush
Administration officials worked out a quiet deal with Canada to stop or
reduce importation
after FAILING to prove to skeptical Congressmen that a general health
hazard exists with Canadian drugs. It's a little embarrassing to not be
able
to cite a single negative example, as happened in one hearing.

I strongly believe that we are close to getting REAL anti-aging
treatments in hand. I also believe that it is likely that such
treatments will involve
natural supplements that are UNPATENTABLE.  If you value your life ( and
I'm not making a joke here!) absolutely keep them away from
regulating supplements.

Consistent with that,  look at what the drug companies are up against:
They must pay maybe 500 - 600 - 900 million bucks to get a new drug to
market
and then risk getting it wrecked by side effects they couldn't forsee.
They see the GREATEST MARKET OPPORTUNITY IN HUMAN HISTORY SLIPPING
THRU THEIR FINGERS  because a rapidly aging world population is shifting
to supplements and alternatives.

AND NOW FOR THE WORST POTENTIAL DISASTER OF ALL!  As researchers
investigate natural, unpatentable supplements, THERE IS THE VERY 
REAL POSSIBILITY that they could stumble across a cheap substance that
slows down aging damage AND WIPES OUT THEIR MARKETS ENTIRELY.
Dang Martha, I don't need that expensive arthritis prescription anymore!

This is why there are now TWICE the number of registered drug company
lobbyists in Washington as actual Congressmen!

People the world over continue to suffer and die largely because drug
research priorities are wildly skewed against cheap, unpatentable
therapies.
This is why the Lancet - in the 1930's - protested against the utter
lack of progress in cancer research.  Now, its 70 years later and the
standard
treatment is cut, poison and irradiate  - and they don't even warn you
that many cancer treatments are CARCINOGENIC themselves!

It's truly amazing what can prevail when the natural and the inexpensive
are painted out of the picture - rather like a Soviet Cosmonaut
who fell out of  political favor ( where'd that guy go?  Siberia,
maybe)

Sorry for the rant but we're on the verge of wonderful things and I
don't want to see them screwed up by governmental obstructionists.




Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell

Mike Carrell wrote:


MC: Methinks you miss the point. Plug-in hybrids give the individual owner
an electric car for local travel with the safety backup of the IC engine.


Right. Actually, my only concern with this arrangement would be that I 
drive such short distances the gasoline would remain in the tank unused for 
months. I think gasoline gets stale after a while. Maybe from contamination?



It shifts a burden to the local utility, which may welcome increased 
night-time

load to better use the capital investment in the generators and grid system.


Electric power companies are thrilled at the prospect. EPRI is promoting 
this idea and investing in it.




It doesn't do much for the whole energy economy unless your house is powered
from a waterfall, wind farm or nuclear plant. If the grid generator is oil,
gas, or coal fired, you are still utilizing expendable, polluting fuels.


I disagree. First, about 32% of electricity comes from hydroelectric, 
nuclear or alternatives. Second, only a small fraction of electricity is 
generated from oil, and this fraction is declining. Oil generation peaked 
in 1978 with 365 billion KWH out of 1,646 (22%). By 2002 it had fallen to 
90 billion KWH out of 2,714 (3%). If most of the miles driven by cars were 
powered by coal or uranium, OPEC's economic power and most of our problems 
in the Middle East would disappear. Third, electric cars are far more 
efficient overall than gasoline cars. Even if your electricity comes from 
coal, which is the worst fossil fuel, you would produce less carbon dioxide 
per mile of travel.


Sources: EIA, Annual Energy Review 2002, chapter 8; EPRI.

- Jed




Typos sorted. RE: Short essay on Darwin vs. Creat.

2005-08-12 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Sorted out a few typos etc.

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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 August 2005 12:43
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Subject: Short essay on Darwin vs. Creat.

Dear Vo,
The link below.
R.
...
Website
http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
...



Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell

I wrote:

Even if your electricity comes from coal, which is the worst fossil fuel, 
you would produce less carbon dioxide per mile of travel.


I am comparing conventional fossil fuel generation to conventional ICE 
automobiles, both circa 1990. This is from an NREL document:


http://lenr-canr.org/EnergyOverview.pdf

Fossil fuel average CO2: 1,505, Energy: 5.1 starting units per unit of 
propulsion


ICE CO2: 2,400, Energy 9.5 starting units.

When you compare an electric car powered by a circa 1990 coal-fired 
generator to a hybrid automobile, the hybrid probably produces less CO2, 
and the units of energy are about equal.


When you compare an electric car powered by an advanced gas turbine 
electric generator to a hybrid car, the electric car produces less CO2 and 
much better mileage.


- Jed




Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell

I wrote:

I disagree. First, about 32% of electricity comes from hydroelectric, 
nuclear or alternatives.


Plus, I forgot to mention, most electric cars will be recharged overnight, 
when most electricity comes from baseline nuclear power in most states. (I 
think it is around 80%.) What it boils down to is that with electric cars, 
we could have millions of nuclear powered automobiles, with no change to 
the present infrastructure. We would use more uranium.


Uranium demand has increased a great deal lately, and there is a boom in 
uranium mining in the U.S. western states and elsewhere.


I think that plug-in hybrids really do have the potential to end our 
dependence on imported oil quickly. We could do it in 5 or 10 years in a 
crash program, if we had to. At present the U.S. imports ~60% of its oil, 
11 million barrels per day, an appalling number.


- Jed




RE: Herbal medicine

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
 From: Zell, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I strongly believe that we are close to getting REAL anti-aging
 treatments in hand.

If you don't already know about it, look at alpha lipoic acid:

http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsAlphaLipoicAcid.php

I have been taking 200 mg three times per day for almost a year and it has 
reversed my diabetic neuropathy and improved my cataract in my left eye to the 
point that I probably will not need the same lens replacement surgery that I 
had in the right.



Re: 500 MW Solar Installation Coming to California

2005-08-12 Thread Jones Beene
However, high-paid energy consultants, and other experts at DoE, 
brought in at the behest of the current Petrocracy, have bitterly 
complained - While the Solar Energy industry would like you to 
believe Solar Power to be eco friendly,  Solar energy is NOT 
really a renewable resource, and these numbers are a sham. We have 
a limited amount of sunlight and increased use of commercial solar 
power would mean less to be used elsewhere, potentially creating 
an ecological **disaster** if this happened on a large enough 
scale. The solar industry likes to throw around statistics about 
how the entire U.S. could entirely move over to solar power if we 
created such-and-such amount of solar farms on valuable western 
deserts, but what they don't mention is if we did this we would 
completely exhaust our supply of solar energy by 2150. And shading 
the desert will negatively impact many important species which 
depend on lots of heat, such as the Armadillo and the giant 
Amarillo rat. And what about the millions of high-paying jobs in 
lost in off-shore drilling. Sure, some of that work has been 
outsourced to Mexico, but still, that off-shore money eventually 
makes it back to good old USA.


Use of solar power should be avoided at all costs. Petroleum is 
being actviely replenished in many wells. We have the proof. Help 
promote renewable energy from withing the earth instead  ;-)


Signer,

Harry S. Tuttle
DoE Energy Expert and 7-Sisters Bagman

Parphrased from Slashdot///...





RE: Herbal medicine

2005-08-12 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Athletes know about this, take the two Lipoic acid and Acetyl-L-cartinine
and your stamina increases. Have a look at the small print on health drinks
in sports shops. Things like Creatine drinks are laced with it.

It most definitely gives you a buzz in aerobic exercise.

I reckon they should ban this type of thing.

Also too much Lipoic acid will damage your liver.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Blanton
Sent: 12 August 2005 15:58
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Herbal medicine

 From: Zell, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I strongly believe that we are close to getting REAL anti-aging
 treatments in hand.

If you don't already know about it, look at alpha lipoic acid:

http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsAlphaLipoicAcid.php

I have been taking 200 mg three times per day for almost a year and it has
reversed my diabetic neuropathy and improved my cataract in my left eye to
the point that I probably will not need the same lens replacement surgery
that I had in the right.



RE: Herbal medicine, The Drug Olympics

2005-08-12 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Unless you want a drug Olympics.

Hey, what's natural anyway?!

I remember the comedian Lenny Henry going on about his hero Ben Johnson and
his stripping and banning. It wasn't as though he had a Harley-Davison!

He might be missing something...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 August 2005 16:05
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Herbal medicine

Athletes know about this, take the two Lipoic acid and Acetyl-L-cartinine
and your stamina increases. Have a look at the small print on health drinks
in sports shops. Things like Creatine drinks are laced with it.

It most definitely gives you a buzz in aerobic exercise.

I reckon they should ban this type of thing.

Also too much Lipoic acid will damage your liver.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Blanton
Sent: 12 August 2005 15:58
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Herbal medicine

 From: Zell, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I strongly believe that we are close to getting REAL anti-aging
 treatments in hand.

If you don't already know about it, look at alpha lipoic acid:

http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsAlphaLipoicAcid.php

I have been taking 200 mg three times per day for almost a year and it has
reversed my diabetic neuropathy and improved my cataract in my left eye to
the point that I probably will not need the same lens replacement surgery
that I had in the right.



Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
 From: Jed Rothwell 

 Right. Actually, my only concern with this arrangement would be that I 
 drive such short distances the gasoline would remain in the tank unused for 
 months. I think gasoline gets stale after a while. Maybe from contamination?

Evaporation of the lighter distillates and contamination from condensed water.  
It helps if you keep your tank as full as possible.



RE: Herbal medicine

2005-08-12 Thread thomas malloy

Athletes know about this, take the two Lipoic acid and Acetyl-L-cartinine
and your stamina increases. Have a look at the small print on health drinks
in sports shops. Things like Creatine drinks are laced with it.


My friend mentioned a homeopathic patch which gives the user 
increased stamina. They only work for a while and the effect can be 
destroyed by things like microwave radiation. What I want to know is 
how I can measure the effect, and how to recharge the patches.




Re: Re: 500 MW Solar Installation Coming to California

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
 From: Jones Beene 

 However, high-paid energy consultants, and other experts at DoE, 
 brought in at the behest of the current Petrocracy, have bitterly 
 complained - While the Solar Energy industry would like you to 
 believe Solar Power to be eco friendly,  Solar energy is NOT 
 really a renewable resource, and these numbers are a sham. 

Then we'd better damn well do it before the Chinese take all the solar energy.  
Mr. President, we must avoid a solar energy gap!

-Gen. Turgidson

PS Reminds me of the explanation why broadcast stations put out so much RF 
power . . . because of all the receiving antennae sucking up the energy.



Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread John Harris

- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

 Unfortunately, this would likely not be the case without some incentives.
Most people would pull into their garage and plug in their charger thus
adding to the peak load in the summer.  They would need an incentive to plug
in before going to bed.

Power utility controlled switching is used many places to control water
heaters etc. easy to put another controlled point in the garage so the
utility can switch the car on when the load is needed.
Regards
JohnH




Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton

 From: John Harris 

 Power utility controlled switching is used many places to control water
 heaters etc. easy to put another controlled point in the garage so the
 utility can switch the car on when the load is needed.

Since when did Australia become a socialist country.  ;-)

Yes, I worked on one of the first load shedding systems for Cobb County EMC 
back in the 70s.  The Co-ops get some serious ratchets in the price when their 
peak increases.

I'm not sure how you would guarantee compliance.  Some people need their car at 
night.



Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell

Terry Blanton wrote:


 think it is around 80%.) What it boils down to is that with electric cars,
 we could have millions of nuclear powered automobiles, with no change to
 the present infrastructure.

Unfortunately, this would likely not be the case without some 
incentives.  Most people would pull into their garage and plug in their 
charger thus adding to the peak load in the summer.  They would need an 
incentive to plug in before going to bed.


That should not be hard to fix. The Prius already has a sophisticated 
computer with many options and a touch screen. You would set up the plug-in 
hybrid like a dishwashing machine which runs automatically overnight with a 
timer. You might add a question like this to the set-up:


When car is plugged in after 6 p.m., recharge 1. Immediately or 2. 
Overnight. [Default: 2]


This option can be overruled on a one-time basis. For example, you visit a 
friend's house at night, and you plan to drive home again at 10:00 p.m. You 
plug the car in. This question pops up on the control screen. Instead of 
letting it wait until the wee hours of the morning, you touch 1. 
Immediately and it starts to recharge.


Alternatively, perhaps you plug the car into a special external box with a 
waterproof heavy-duty power supply, like the one used for an outdoor 
air-conditioner unit. The box would have similar buttons on it: RECHARGE 
NOW and RECHARGE OVERNIGHT.


The kind of people who would buy these cars at first would be conscientious 
and they would often select RECHARGE OVERNIGHT even if their power meters 
did not give them a discount for night electricity. Later on, when there 
are tens of millions of these cars, intelligent power meters would become 
common, and this would provide an economic incentive to select off-hours 
charging.


- Jed




Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread John Harris

- Original Message - 
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids


 Since when did Australia become a socialist country.  ;-)

No - Still a overcontrolled duplexed monocracy :-)

JohnH




Got Brand?

2005-08-12 Thread Jones Beene



Who needs branding? Well anyone in the solar energy 
industry arena, that's for sure 

Name the top 5 companies in the 
industryerr...uh...how about one?

So, who needs branding... "Who doesn't?" ... is the 
answer coming from the "Got milk?" guys. And they've probably got a one-liner 
which might be put to good use promoting Solar or a solar company (with help 
from yours truly). This is also a plug for Goodby, Silverstein  Partners, 
the San Francisco ad agency best known for its "Got milk?" series (the Budweiser 
lizards, etc)...according to my take on Blair Clarkson's fine article (in an 
obscure mag, called "Industry Standard" which you could never locate, unless you 
have a dental appointment soon - which is where I saw it). 

The Left-Coast bunch of wits at Goodby Silverstein 
are the hand's down #1, hot ticket in Ad Agencies these days - eat you heart 
out, big apple - you don't have a clue. Take the Ad they introduced last 
November for TiVo. It is unfoundedly the funniest thing that I have ever seen on 
the boob-tube, bar none, including the bloopers, Chris Rock, SNLand animal 
comedians. The now-infamous ad featured ex-football 49er greats Joe Montana and 
Ronnie Lott, outon the golf course chatting about Ronnie's latest 
problem...err... shall we say..."masculine itch." Just as Joe reaches for 
a bigjar of ointment and scoops out the curethe ad cuts away to 
the tag line: "TV your way." The clever point being: TiVo gets rid of ads you 
really don't want to see. 

If you haven't seen this spot, you won't get it. 
But if you have seen it (and are male and played high school sports in the USA), 
then you are probably rolling on the floor in uncontrollable flashback-laughter, 
as we speak.

Another cleverbillboard Ad (for eTrade 
Brokerage) reads simply: "Root of all evil ... Can't buy happiness ... Blah, 
blah, blah." The reader must fill in the blanks - demonstrating once again 
that less-is-more. But again...you had to be therekinda like "nobody doesn't 
like Sara Lee." 
Anyway, this kind of subtle semi-ironic 
Ad-hoc-humorneatly capture "branding" in the post-dot-com era - (i.e. 
'don't take yourself too seriously' ) and illustrates how a previously unknown 
company, or cooperative (in the case of Got-Milk) can get its message 
quicklyingrained into the public psyche - one step ahead of withering 
economic influences and/or entrenched challenges from the Petrocracy. 

Oh... forgot to mention... my suggestion to the 
"Solar industry" (is there really such a thing?)... is simple...(in 
addition to hiring Goodby Silverstein, and having them hire me on as 
consultant) Remember "Got milk?"- the mantra that boils down the product to 
its bare essence? 
How about something like "Got rays?" I can think 
of a ton of ways to "take-off" from that premise, including a variation of the 
tried and true "Eat my Photons, malefactor" that last blip appealing mainly 
to video-game-jocks.
Jones


Re: Short essay on Darwin vs. Creat.

2005-08-12 Thread RC Macaulay



Remi,

In a response to Jones post on Either-or I wrote I hope you re-examine your 
math on your Thermo electric paper. Digressing into Darwin vs IT can distract 
you from some math correction you need to make on your website. Afterwards , you 
can have lotsa fun with the D vs.IT debate. 
Richard


Re: Got Brand?

2005-08-12 Thread RC Macaulay



Jones wrote...
Anyway, this kind of subtle semi-ironic 
Ad-hoc-humorneatly capture "branding" in the post-dot-com era - (i.e. 
'don't take yourself too seriously' ) and illustrates how a previously unknown 
company, or cooperative (in the case of Got-Milk) can get its message 
quicklyingrained into the public psyche - one step ahead of withering 
economic influences and/or entrenched challenges from the Petrocracy. 

Oh... forgot to mention... my suggestion to the 
"Solar industry" (is there really such a thing?)... is simple...(in 
addition to hiring Goodby Silverstein, and having them hire me on as 
consultant) Remember "Got milk?"- the mantra that boils down the product to 
its bare essence? 
How about something like "Got rays?" I can 
think of a ton of ways to "take-off" from that premise, including a variation of 
the tried and true "Eat my Photons, malefactor" that last blip appealing 
mainly to video-game-jocks.


Jones is right, you know. Thinking of the alltime 
famous " Frigidaire" name makes one consider Cf and a name with " legs". Surely 
with the imagination demonstrated by Vorts, a name for CF should be a piece of 
cake.
Richard


Taysun Generator

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
This is presented for amusement purposes, the power source of Atlantis.  
However, it would be great if it worked!

http://www.taysun.com/intro.htm

Kewl t-shirt.



Re: Got Brand?

2005-08-12 Thread Grimer
At 02:02 pm 12/08/2005 -0500, Richard wrote:

 Jones is right, you know. Thinking of the alltime famous 
 Frigidaire name makes one consider Cf and a name with 
 legs. Surely with the imagination demonstrated by Vorts, 
 a name for CF should be a piece of cake.

 Richard



Well, since CF is clearly a manifestation of the 
Beta-atmosphere (B-at), I suggest BatFusion - ;-)
   
 =
 Nothing better than BatFusion 
  for running your BatMobile.  
 =

Frank 



Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread revtec

- Original Message - 
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids


  From: Jed Rothwell

  Plus, I forgot to mention, most electric cars will be recharged
overnight,
  when most electricity comes from baseline nuclear power in most states.
(I
  think it is around 80%.) What it boils down to is that with electric
cars,
  we could have millions of nuclear powered automobiles, with no change to
  the present infrastructure.

 Unfortunately, this would likely not be the case without some incentives.
Most people would pull into their garage and plug in their charger thus
adding to the peak load in the summer.  They would need an incentive to plug
in before going to bed.


A special charging plug and a timed outlet solves that problem.  It could
also be made tamper proof.

Jeff




EITHER OR ETC + RE: Short essay on Darwin vs. Creat.

2005-08-12 Thread R . O . Cornwall









If you can point it out to me, then Ill
correct it. I use maths on most occasions like an engineer  to quantify, not
to stake out new territory and do proofs of concepts. I had this out with my
thesis steering committee. The way I think is to draw analogy with known
physical effect.

For instance, one guy Sergey was being
pedantic on the dipole equations yes, I agreed, I had made an error BUT I
pointed up to the light, a generator is powering that or do you know how a
ceramic detonator works.

Theory-schmery.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RC Macaulay
Sent: 12 August 2005 19:48
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Short essay on Darwin vs. Creat.







Remi,











In a response to Jones post on Either-or I wrote I hope you
re-examine your math on your Thermo electric paper. Digressing into Darwin vs IT can distract
you from some math correction you need to make on your website. Afterwards ,
you can have lotsa fun with the D vs.IT debate. 



Richard








CSICOP Founder Dies

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
Phil Klass will certainly be missed:

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050812/NEWS01/508120337/1006



RE: Herbal medicine

2005-08-12 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Seriously,
Find out about experimental design. It obvious when you have to factor in
all the variables. You'd be doing something like before and after tests on a
treadmill and if you're really serious be collecting expelled air, sweat,
urine etc. etc.

Incidentally if you want to look like a marine quickly, do the creatine
thing and some bodybuilding. It pumps the muscles full of water and a
by-product of this is much increased stamina, explosive power, faster
recovery and better repair.

Nobody really knows the long term effect of these supplements. I find it
amazing that they haven't been outlawed in professional sport. Creatine is
much loved by footballers (soccer) and rugby players (er, football).


I'm so sad, I should be on the beach now having a bar-b-que with the
postgrads but I can't find parking. I like my car, I won't use the bus, I'll
never change. The night is warm and full of totty and I'm in here emailing
you sad people :)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of thomas malloy
Sent: 12 August 2005 16:22
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Herbal medicine

Athletes know about this, take the two Lipoic acid and Acetyl-L-cartinine
and your stamina increases. Have a look at the small print on health drinks
in sports shops. Things like Creatine drinks are laced with it.

My friend mentioned a homeopathic patch which gives the user 
increased stamina. They only work for a while and the effect can be 
destroyed by things like microwave radiation. What I want to know is 
how I can measure the effect, and how to recharge the patches.



RE: CSICOP Founder Dies

2005-08-12 Thread R . O . Cornwall
May his spirit live on.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Blanton
Sent: 12 August 2005 21:27
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: CSICOP Founder Dies

Phil Klass will certainly be missed:

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050812/NEWS01/50812
0337/1006



Mills paper on-line

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell

Frank Znidarsic sent me this. I untangled the URL from his message:

Randell L. Mills, Classical Quantum Mechanics, Physics Essays

http://www.physicsessays.com/securepdf.asp?pwd=1902003J1K3D5W7Q9K1C3N5K7Jamp;id=143

- Jed




RE: CSICOP Founder Dies

2005-08-12 Thread orionworks
Cornwall Sez:

 May his spirit live on.
 

 Phil Klass will certainly be missed:
 

I'll always remember one particular debate between Klass and Travis Walton on 
Larry King Live.

At one point, in the passion of the moment, Klass blurted out Your'e a g*d 
d**ned liar!

It was Classic Klass.

I bet he's already smoozing with the aliens at Area 51. ;-)

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com



Re: Mills paper on-line

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
 From: Jed Rothwell

 Frank Znidarsic sent me this. I untangled the URL from his message:
 
 Randell L. Mills, Classical Quantum Mechanics, Physics Essays

The copy on his web page is easier to read online (without those double 
columns):

http://www.blacklightpower.com/theory/TheoryPapers/CQM060905.pdf



Paperback books available

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Not to blow my own horn here, but the paperback copies of Cold Fusion and 
the Future arrived. Let me know by private e-mail if you want one. I can 
afford to give away some copies, so let me know if you want me to send one 
to an open minded VIP or reporter.


It looks pretty good except the back cover got messed up with the wrong 
font. No big deal. This is a 5 x 8.5 standard sized paperback. It came 
out 255 pages. It weighs just under 1 lb., which makes it convenient to mail.


- Jed




Re: Paperback books available

2005-08-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
And by the way, do not worry about credit card payments. Just send me eight 
buck when you get around to it, cash or check. Everyone on this list has 
credit with me.


- Jed




FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday August 12, 2005

2005-08-12 Thread Akira Kawasaki
 [Original Message]
 From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 8/12/2005 1:16:35 PM
 Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday August 12, 2005

 WHAT'S NEW   Robert L. Park   Friday, 12 Aug 05   Washington, DC

 1. GLOBAL WARMING: ANOTHER DISPUTE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. 
 Homo sapiens has been around for maybe 50,000 years, but most of
 what we've learned about our universe, from how big it is to how
 small its pieces are, has been learned in the span of a single
 human lifetime.  What made it possible was the development of a
 scientific culture that is open and conditional.  The effect of
 homo sapiens on Earth's climate is perhaps the most complicated
 problem humans have tackled, and conceivably the most important. 
 The system is working.  We have a consensus on warming; disputes
 remain only over the details.  One detail was records that were
 interpreted by a group at the U. Alabama in Huntsville as showing
 that the troposphere had not warmed in two decades and the
 tropics had cooled.  However, three papers in Science this week
 report errors in the Alabama-Huntsville calculations.  It seems
 that warming of the troposphere agrees with surface measurements
 and recent computer predictions.  The group at Alabama-Huntsville
 concedes the error, but says the effect is not that large. 
 That's the way it's supposed to work.  It's a textbook example of
 science in the process of resolving a very complicated problem.

 2. CREATIONISM: ABC NEWS AND GETTING THE DINOSAURS ON NOAH'S ARK. 
 Earlier this year, WN asked a rhetorical question, Is ABC News
 nuts? http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN05/wn021105.html.  There
 is new information.  Last night, ABC Evening News took viewers to
 the Museum of Earth History in Eureka Springs, Ark.  Disputes are
 different in the Bible world.  Genesis says a pair of every kind
 of air-breathing animal was taken on board Noah's Ark   and in a
 world that's only 10,000 years old, that must include dinosaurs.
 Or it may be that the reporter, Jake Tapper, went to school in
 Kansas.  Religious views of creat
 ion that challenge accepted science are gaining support across
 the country, he told viewers, The Kansas Board of Education
 this week tentatively endorsed new standards allowing more
 criticism of evolution in explaining the origins of life.  As
 further proof, ABC showed President Bush delivering his
 intelligent design should be taught in schools remarks.  To
 balance the President, science had AAAS CEO Alan Leshner, I have
 no problem with people talking about religion as religion or
 belief as belief.  Hmmm.  It's dangerous to talk about
 religious belief as if it were science.  So what was ABC's
 conclusion?  Science is increasingly on the defensive.

 3. SPACE: A FLAWLESS LAUNCH OF THE MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER. 
 The journey will take seven months, and it will remain in Mars
 orbit four years, sending back information on weather, climate
 and geology.  It's not likely to find a reason to send humans.

 4. PHILIP KLASS: TIRELESS DEBUNKER OF UFO FANTASIES DIES AT 85. 
An electrical engineer and senior editor of Aviation Week, Klass
 offered a $10,000 prize for solid scientific evidence of visits
 by extraterrestrials.  He himself never uttered a word he could
 not back up.  His health had been failing for several years, but
 there was still fire in his words.

 THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND.
 Opinions are the author's and not necessarily shared by the
 University of Maryland, but they should be.
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[mOT] ET Docs

2005-08-12 Thread Terry Blanton
Not documents, sorry:

http://icberkshire.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0400bracknell/tm_objectid=15844931method=fullsiteid=50102headline=-flying-saucer-surgeons-cured-my-dodgy-back--name_page.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/843el

'Flying saucer surgeons cured my dodgy back'

Aug 11 2005

Nick Capehorn
 

 A RUSH OF reports to the News about UFO sightings over Bracknell have prompted 
one man to go one better - he says he has been operated on by aliens.

And Terry Walters, 62, wants anyone who has had an extra-terrestrial encounter 
to get in touch.

In 1966, Mr Walters, of Nine Mile Ride, Crowthorne, was left in agony when his 
back gave way as he loaded heavy luggage into the back of a Mini.

He faced a trip to the doctors and possible confinement to a wheelchair.

But as he laid in bed that night, someone entered his room and told him to 
follow them.

When he awoke his back had been cured, so he went to Heatherwood Hospital to 
ask for the surgeon who operated on him.

But staff denied any knowledge of it. Further tests showed he had undergone 
then-impossible back surgery.

Not only that, but his blood makeup matched an astronaut who had spent 10 hours 
in space. Doctors said the only rational explanations for this could be if he 
were a lifelong smoker or had visited polluted Mexico City - but he had done 
neither.

more



Letter from Dr. Cahill

2005-08-12 Thread thomas malloy
Reginald Cahill is the author of The Speed of Light and the Einstein 
Legacy 1905 - 2005, which was published in IE vol 10 issue 60.


I sent him the following:


Dear Dr. Cahill;

It's so nice to see someone with a physics degree criticize
Einstein's GR. I assume that you read the issue of IE
where one author after another criticized GR.

I post on Vortex-L, scientific anomalies. Eugene Mallove
used to post from time to time. Any anamoly is fair game,
but alternative energy sources are a favorite topic, as is
cohering the ZPE. I'm wondering if the Dark Matter and the
ZPE might be the same thing. I suggested this to Hal
Puthoff, and didn't get a response.

One of the Vortexians posted the following book review, I
thought you might find it interesting;


I recently read a NY Times Book review concerning a new

book called A

Different Universe - Reinventing Physics From the Bottom

Up


And I received the following:


Hi,

Thanks for all those comments. I'm aware of many of the points you 
raised, and in the main agree with them.  Physics has got it very 
wrong, and the experimental data to show that has been around for up 
to a 100 years, and in numerous experiments. The whole spacetime 
model is actually a fundamental mistake..there is no such thing. But 
in special cases (ie outside of a spherical  matter system) the real 
phenomena can be written in the form of the spacetime mathematics, 
but in other cases SR and GR fail, and in a major  way.  We're not 
talking about decimal points here, but factors of 10.


The `dark matter' effect is very much about the so-called ZPE. 
However the ZPE people base their thinking on covariant quantum field 
theory, which has much of the spacetime model built into it.  So most 
of the ZPE stuff will need a major fix-up.


Check out the websites in signature.

Cheers,
Reg Cahill

A/Prof.  Reginald T.  Cahill (Phone: (+618) or (08) 8201 2417
Physicist  School  Deputy Head (MobPhone: (+61) or (0) 
41 882 5 882

School of Chemistry, Physics and Earth Sciences (Fax: (+618) or (08) 8201 2905
Faculty of Science and Engineering(email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flinders University, GPO Box 2100 Adelaide 5001 Australia
http://www.scieng.flinders.edu.au/cpes/people/cahill_r/processphysics.html
http://www.mountainman.com.au/process_physics/