Re: space elevator
It would entirely depend on how high the break in the cable was, the top half hangs from orbit, so would fly off into space instead of falling. --- thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always regarded this idea as science fiction wearing scientific clothes. I noticed with interest that the author is a credentialed scientist. I've often wondered what would happen if the cable parted, I suppose if you were to build it over the ocean, the answer would be splash. This location would be a good idea, particularly when the liability consequences were taken into consideration. Merlyn Magickal Engineer and Technical Metaphysicist Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
From: Frederick Sparber It seems that the 1960s world political climate and race to get a man on the moon by the end of the decade took priority over practical space flight. So what is the excuse for Shuttle? The original design was a two staged aircraft, one boosted to near space and the other rocketed into orbit. Both landed on conventional airfields. Guess that's where Burt got his idea, eh? I understand he has cut a deal for his Virginity. ;-) Wanna take a ride?
Re: space elevator
Posted before I RTFA (Read The F'n Article) His design calls for almost half the weight of the system to be in a counterweight, so all of the ribbon above the break (wherever it is) would fly off into space. The rest is so light that terminal velocity would be minimal. Now Terminal velocity for the climbing rig situated just below the cut would be another matter entirely. --- Merlyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would entirely depend on how high the break in the cable was, the top half hangs from orbit, so would fly off into space instead of falling. --- thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always regarded this idea as science fiction wearing scientific clothes. I noticed with interest that the author is a credentialed scientist. I've often wondered what would happen if the cable parted, I suppose if you were to build it over the ocean, the answer would be splash. This location would be a good idea, particularly when the liability consequences were taken into consideration. Merlyn Magickal Engineer and Technical Metaphysicist Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Merlyn Magickal Engineer and Technical Metaphysicist __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Pollution Quotient - PQ - was MPG = MPG+e?
From: John Steck Of course making the general assumption that the mass of 10k batteries (approx 570lbs) would have no impact on performance... Probably not far from the weight of normal EV batteries. To truly compare apples to apples I think a new unit of measure is required. It's always nice to frame things in familiar terms, but there are too many variables that need to be considered to do that in this case. How about: (energy density / work) / (pollution quotient) = Clean Work per Hour (CWPH) ED = energy potential of the fuel relative to weight volume W = power transfer efficiency per hour of typical operation PQ = the sum of defined negative byproducts from origin to point source With this unit you should be able to reasonably compare the space shuttle to a Prius... 8^) I like it; but, the byproducts vary widely. You need to normalize them based on environmental impact.
Re: Methane Clathrates
From: John Steck The artic permafrost release of methane clathrates seems to have most intelligent people rightfully concerned Oh, it's filtered to much lower ranks lately, the US Senate:-) http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/17/MTFH55800_2005-08-17_23-12-31_HO783557.html or http://tinyurl.com/cmrpk
Re: Pollution Quotient - PQ - was MPG = MPG+e?
Terry Blanton wrote: From: John Steck Of course making the general assumption that the mass of 10k batteries (approx 570lbs) would have no impact on performance... Probably not far from the weight of normal EV batteries. To truly compare apples to apples I think a new unit of measure is required. It's always nice to frame things in familiar terms, but there are too many variables that need to be considered to do that in this case. How about: (energy density / work) / (pollution quotient) = Clean Work per Hour (CWPH) ED = energy potential of the fuel relative to weight volume W = power transfer efficiency per hour of typical operation PQ = the sum of defined negative byproducts from origin to point source With this unit you should be able to reasonably compare the space shuttle to a Prius... 8^) I like it; but, the byproducts vary widely. You need to normalize them based on environmental impact. One CWPH = One Hop (as in a bunny hop). ;-) Harry
Kowalski's summary of paper by Szpak et al
Ludwik Kowalski's summary of paper by Szpak et al: http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/250szpak.html
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
Good deal, Terry. Who is Burt? I'm a bit fuzzy this morning. :-) Developing ICBM technology for the Cold War gave Dr. Wernher Von Braun (Huntsville, Propulsion) and Dr. Ernst Steinhoff (White Sands, Guidance) their chance to finish what they started with the V-1 and V-2 rockets. http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/booknotes/booknotes-icbm.html Dr. Steinhoff got involved in desalinization of the ocean of brackish water under the White Sands Missile Range (using biomass energy) when we collaborated after he retired in the mid 1970s. He told me about the errant rocket episode, it landed in a cemetery in Mexico. His heavy foot on the gas pedal of his Mercedes did him in and he died in a nursing home in Las cruces NM. BTW, If the German War Machine had concentrated their effort on Jet aircraft instead of rockets, WW II might've played differently. Frederick [Original Message] From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 8/18/05 9:33:10 AM Subject: Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc. From: Frederick Sparber It seems that the 1960s world political climate and race to get a man on the moon by the end of the decade took priority over practical space flight. So what is the excuse for Shuttle? The original design was a two staged aircraft, one boosted to near space and the other rocketed into orbit. Both landed on conventional airfields. Guess that's where Burt got his idea, eh? I understand he has cut a deal for his Virginity. ;-) Wanna take a ride?
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
From: Frederick Sparber Good deal, Terry. Who is Burt? I'm a bit fuzzy this morning. :-) Oh, sorry. I have a two hour head start on you here. I was speaking of Burt Rutan of Scaled Composites whose White Knight jet carried Spaceship One into space winning the X-Prize. He just announced a venture, Virgin Galactic, with Virgin Airlines's Sir Richard Branson to cart folks into space for $100k ticket. http://www.scaled.com/news/2005-07-27_branson_rutan_spaceship_company.htm Wanna take a ride? S.R. Hadden (John Hurt) Contact http://www.turning-pages.com/contact/journey.htm
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
From: Terry Blanton Wanna take a ride? S.R. Hadden (John Hurt) Contact http://www.turning-pages.com/contact/journey.htm I guess I should explain this somewhat vague reference also. S.R. Hadden is said to represent Robert Bigelow just as Ellie (Jodie Foster) represents Jill Tartar of SETI. Now, Bigelow has recently pulled funding from the National Institute of Discovery Science: http://www.nidsci.org/ to fund his space hotel venture: http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/ So, it's not inconceivable that Virgin Galactic and Bigelow Aerospace could do what Sir Clarke envisioned in 2001, albeit to a lesser degree. (I think the orbital space plane in 2001 had a Pan Am logo, tho.)
Re: Kowalski's summary of paper by Szpak et al
- Original Message - From: "Harry Veeder" Ludwik Kowalski's summary of paper by Szpak et al: http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/250szpak.html Like most of Kowalski's analyses, this one is as informative as reading the original paper, especially since it adds one very important element, which might have been missed otherwise: "During the main experiment the cell was in the electric field of a parallel plate capacitor (field of ~ 2000 V/cm). The role of the external electric field is not clear to me; the authors say it was imposed to created conditions favoring nuclear reactions. This reminded me of an experiment (D. Letts et al.) in which a laser beam was used to stimulate the cathode." One big question, relating to Steve Krivit's quest for documented 100% reproducibility in a given *type* of LENR experiment is: "Does adding an electric field convert less-than 100% reliability into an a fully reproducible process"? ... at least in regard toCT (cold transmutation) I am not saying that it does, but anecdotally there are certainly a lot of recent papers where reproducibility "seems" to be enhanced by the addition of an external electric field. Are there any papers or anecdotal reports of the "failure to reproduce" in experiments where an external electric field has been used (in addition to electrolysis)? Jones BTW taking this observation of Kowalskito the next level of practicality... are there "free" sources of that kind of electric field? Actuallythis particular requirementis not large, as electric fields go, but does it need to be coherent? Probably. Hmmmconcentrated solar energy will provide that kind of electric field (~ 2000 V/cm) as will infrared (heat) but not the coherency. Actually you could get that kind of "free" field from the exhaust manifold of an auto engineand as for coherency? Remember the Sandia Photo-lattice? My pick for neglected technology of the decade. What the photolattice does is to convert low grade heat into coherent IR light, and very efficiently. "Coherency" is the key to efficiency.When trying to rate a wide range of "enabling technologies" in terms of unrealized "potential," the newsbyte that seems now to have had the greatest easily-realizable "potential," to a wide swath of alternative energy research could be this technologyof the "photolattice" but has the technology now gone stagnant? I wish someone at Sandia or Stanford could answer that one. Here is the reference:"A Novel Photolattice with Extraordinary Properties"By Neil Savagehttp://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/wonews/oct03/1003phot.html"A device from Sandia emits infrared radiation at a fixed wavelength and with a conversion efficiency that appears to defy Plancks law"
vaporware batteries
Jones wrote; Speaking of that one good battery http://www.blacklightpower.com/battery.shtml 500 times better performance (energy density) than lithium ion, but alas vaporware. What advanced battery isn't vaporware, these days. I assume that the Aluminium Battery does what the inventor says it does. The BLP Battery, OTOH, I want to see work. I would seem to me that fuel cell would be a better name than battery. Question to Mike Carrell, have you seen the BLP Battery work?
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
Thanks, Terry. I should've known. :-) Here's an off-list note I got from a ex-NASA- ex-Vortex-l member: . On your last post - Harry Stine has been around for decades - I think he may even have worked at White Sands around the time I was there for 6 months in 1957/1958. I seem to recall the WS guys talking about him. His ICBM notes you sent are really interesting! In retrospect, after reading about Dr. Ernst Steinhoff's Wiring Problems outlined on G. Harry Stine's book, ICBMs: http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/booknotes/booknotes-icbm.html Pg. 113-114 On May 29, 1947, a V-2 with a guidance system designed by Dr. Ernst Steinhoff (who had guided the ill-fated German V-2 that had landed in Sweden and wound up in England for study) literally was wired up with wires crossed, and instead of heading up the range to the north, headed south, landing in a cemetary on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, almost causing an international incident. The US Army arrived a couple of hours later, enterprising Mexicans were selling any old piece of scrap metal they could find and claiming it was V-2 debris. No further launchers were made until proper range-safety procedures were developed. I'm glad he didn't hire me when I applied for a job there working on the SCR 584 Radar (3 years military civilian experience) in the fall of 1954. I got in a few years of college, plus ( OJT ) and 15 years of RD and three patents at Sandia Labs instead. :-) Frederick From: Terry Blanton From: Frederick Sparber Good deal, Terry. Who is Burt? I'm a bit fuzzy this morning. :-) Oh, sorry. I have a two hour head start on you here. I was speaking of Burt Rutan of Scaled Composites whose White Knight jet carried Spaceship One into space winning the X-Prize. He just announced a venture, Virgin Galactic, with Virgin Airlines's Sir Richard Branson to cart folks into space for $100k ticket. http://www.scaled.com/news/2005-07-27_branson_rutan_spaceship_company.htm Wanna take a ride? S.R. Hadden (John Hurt) Contact http://www.turning-pages.com/contact/journey.htm
d2fusion
I visited their site. Does anyone know if they are doing anything other than hosting a website and attempting to raise capital?
Re: Kowalski's summary of paper by Szpak et al
One big question, relating to Steve Krivit's quest for documented 100% reproducibility in a given *type* of LENR experiment Minor clarification. Such is not my quest. Uh-oh. Now having flashbacks to Monty Python... My quest is to seek the Holy Grail! But seriously folks, reproducibility is no longer a focus of mine. An effect that happens more often than not is good enough for Richard Garwin and it's good enough for me. If it's not good enough for skeptical observers, that's their problem -- and their loss because it's used a straw man argument to dismiss the recognition of a new science phenomenon. And I don't waste my breath on people who are listening-impaired who play straw man games. s
map of the universe
Title: map of the universe The map is 15 billion light years across. This gives new meaning to big structures, eh? http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/universe.html I shortened the URL down to the anzwers.org , their rates for hosting look pretty cheap. Now if I just had a website to post.
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
BTW, Terry. This event preceded the July 1947 "Roswell Incident" and the top-secret "Project Mogul" spy balloon that was launched from the White Sands Missile Range. http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/booknotes/booknotes-icbm.html "Pg. 113-114 On May 29, 1947, a V-2 with a guidance system designed by Dr. Ernst Steinhoff (who had guided the ill-fated German V-2 that had landed in Sweden and wound up in England for study) literally was wired up with wires crossed, and instead of heading up the range to the north, headed south, landing in a cemetary on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, almost causing an international incident. The US Army arrived a couple of hours later, "enterprising Mexicans were selling any old piece of scrap metal they could find and claiming it was V-2 debris." No further launchers were made until proper range-safety procedures were developed." You don't suppose "Wrong Way Steinhoff" accidentally shot down a UFO, do you? :-) Frederick
Photo-lattice converter
As mentioned in an earlier post today, there is plenty of what can be termed free electric-field from higher energy photons - available all around us - i.e. such as an automotive exhaust system, which could (in a perfect world) supply very intense infrared (heat), for conversion into electricity. Except - for the lack of coherency in the IR photons. Sure, you could use the heat for steam, or for a Stirling engine, but those are Carnot heat-engines - just like the ICE. If there was an efficient way to convert that heat or any free electric field (i.e. otherwise wasted) it would demand **coherency** (like the maser/laser)... and that is where the Sandia Photo-lattice comes in... oops... could come in... were this technolgy not the neglected step-child of the decade, that is. What's up with Sandia - are they too busy and too blind to see the potential? What the photolattice does is to convert lower-grade heat (~1000 F.) into coherent IR light, and very efficiently - in seeming violation to Plank's Law. Coherency is the key to efficiency. There is a double advantage in an automotive hydbrid in that there are (almost) no Carnot losses when going from electric-to-electric. The reference again: A Novel Photolattice with Extraordinary PropertiesBy Neil Savage http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/wonews/oct03/1003phot.html A device from Sandia emits infrared radiation at a fixed wavelength and with a conversion efficiency that appears to defy Planck's law OK. Here is a quick and not-so-dirty (actually very green) speculative idea on a possible way that one might get lots of energy from wasted exhaust heat in an automobile using the perfected Sandia photolattice. First you insulate the exhaust system so no heat is wasted, and do not cool the engine, using ceramics if necessary for the parts, and then you increase the diameter of a tubular section of the exhaust manifold enough to accomodate another interior axial tube, which will be heated by the exhaust. This interior-tube will become, in effect, a linear accelerator tube. 75% of the heat of an ICE is wasted, normally. The photolattic can use about a third of that. Consequently his addition might cut that net number for total heat losses down to 50% and nearly double the effective engine output, with no increase in fuel usage, if done properly (ideal situation). The tube is made of the photo-lattice material and is evacuated, so that an electron gun at one end can fire a low voltage beam down the interior tube, to be accelerated by the coherent crossed electric field of the coherent IR light. This is analogous to the first linear accelerators which used microwaves. At the other end of the tube is a direct converter, which can be as simple as an induction coil followed by a collector. This is electric-to-eletric conversion, so it should be over 90% eff. You would have to introduce pulsed electrons, in order to use induction on the output - no problemo. If the exhaust heat were 1200 degrees F. in and 800 out, say, that 400 degree difference is utilized by the photolattice, but it is not Carnot limited. The photolattice removes a spectrum of heat but only emits coherent light, presumably at the low end - which is still a fractional eV. The beam gets accelerated by the resultant crossed-field which is about 4,000 volts per cm so a 10 cm section could boost the beam up as much as 40,000 volts before being slowed by the induction output coils. Now if someone could just get Sandia interested in making the photo-lattice material again, then something interesting might be accomplished before oil runs out. Of course the same kind of system could be utilized for converting lower grade heat in a warm fusion LENR cell, should that one get out of the lab by the time. ...and should Sandia gets their collective act togehter or should I say gets theri coherency act together. We may have to send Sparber up there to intervene, if he ever comes down from flying over White Sands in UFOs Jones
Re: Pollution Quotient - PQ - was MPG = MPG+e?
John Steck wrote: Of course making the general assumption that the mass of 10k batteries (approx 570lbs) would have no impact on performance... To truly compare apples to apples I think a new unit of measure is required. It's always nice to frame things in familiar terms, but there are too many variables that need to be considered to do that in this case. How about: (energy density / work) / (pollution quotient) = Clean Work per Hour (CWPH) ED = energy potential of the fuel relative to weight volume W = power transfer efficiency per hour of typical operation PQ = the sum of defined negative byproducts from origin to point source With this unit you should be able to reasonably compare the space shuttle to a Prius... 8^) Except for the pollution quotient, doesn't this dimensionally reduce to 1/weight*volume ? Harry
Jed's book on CF
Just received the book in paperback form. Too much good information to digest at one sitting. Anyone that ever aspires to write a technical piece may find Jed's book is worthy. The time, research and technical expertise that went into the book is a demonstration of perserverance. Congratulations Jed.. you did it !! Now one of my tasks is to get some of them into Texas A M, Rice , U of H, U of Texas and a friend at NASA. Richard
ring a bell?
Anyone on Vo' ever hear reference, even anecdotal, to the 21 cm line of hydrogen (1.42 GHz) every being related to either baryongenesis or proton decay?
Re: d2fusion
At 11:23 AM 8/18/2005, you wrote: I visited their site. Does anyone know if they are doing anything other than hosting a website and attempting to raise capital? Good question Thomas. As I think is generally-known, Russ George did get a bunch of money from Solar in exchange for his company. I put company in quotes because I honestly don't know what George, himself, has in the way of IP, or current RD, or even a lab. He had been very avoidant to many direct questions I asked him over the last year. When he presented at the March APS conference, for all I could see, he was reviewing work he had done years ago with SRI, as well as general facts about the field. Maybe George had a lab and had been actively working on CF, but not that I could tell. On the other hand, Tom Passell and Tom Benson have been working on a few attempted replications. I had the pleasure of visiting their lab last December. They are (had been?) collaborating with Stringham earlier this year, working on a replication of his device, I believe, prior to joining forces with George. Gee, I wonder how the intellectual property issues is going to be handled on this one? Seems like its a volatile set of conditions. Tom1 and Tom2 were also attempting a replication of the Energetics Technologies glow discharge work. My visit with Tom and Tom was inspiring. They were focused and interested on the science. They were not the least bit concerned about me inspecting their apparatus, taking photos (there didn't turn out to be much that was photogenic about their setup.) They were quite open to share anything they learned with the science community. Passell and Benson seem to have very creative minds for this work and strong backgrounds. I wish them all the best. Steve
RE: Methane Clathrates
It seems to me that capping emissions now is closing the lid on Pandora's box... I fear we are already past the point of no return. I am suspicious that there may be some cyclical planetary event going on that may be truly to blame... atmospheric changes don't seem like enough they would contribute enough energy. Something is influencing spin, that influence is likely keeping the core hot too, perhaps a spike in that applied energy? http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050225_wobbly_planet.html http://pao.cnmoc.navy.mil/educate/neptune/trivia/earth.htm http://www.news.uiuc.edu/scitips/01/02ocean.html http://www.earthscape.org/t2/har01/har01b/har01b.html http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/8i.html -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:01 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Methane Clathrates From: John Steck The artic permafrost release of methane clathrates seems to have most intelligent people rightfully concerned Oh, it's filtered to much lower ranks lately, the US Senate:-) http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/17/MTFH55800_2005-08-17_23-12-31_HO783 557.html or http://tinyurl.com/cmrpk
Energetics Technologies LENR Patent
I came across a patent for a LENR generator today by the obscure Israelie company Energetics Technologies. The patent application is dated 12 August 2004.Can anyone give me a rundown about this company and how they are approaching cold fusion research? I can't find a website by them. If anyone knows of anEnergetics Technologies website, please let me know. The patent: http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/IPDL-CIMAGES/view/pct/getbykey5?KEY=05/17918.050224 A low energy nuclear reaction power generator has different cells in which hydrogenous atoms are driven by different methods to increase atom-packing in a lattice and to increase the flux of hydrogenous atoms. An electrolytic cell is provided containing an electrically-conductive electrolyte, a glow discharge cell and a catalyst cell are each provided containing a gas, and a high pressure electrolytic ultrasonic cell is provided including a first section containing a gas and a second section containing an electrolyte, in which is provided an anode-cathode electrode pair. Applied across these electrodes is a train of electrical packets, each comprised of a cluster of pulses. The amplitude and duration of each pulse, the duration of intervals between pulses, and the duration of intervals between successive packets in the train are in a predetermined pattern in accordance with superwaving waves in which each wave is modulated by waves of different frequency.
RE: Methane Clathrates
From: John Steck I am suspicious that there may be some cyclical planetary event going on that may be truly to blame... Well, it *could* be this: http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn7854 as discussed here: http://www.dailygrail.com/node/1203 because we are well past our expiry date: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1436408,00.html Nice dreams!
Re: Some Figures On Orbiting Energy Hydrogen Etc.
From: Frederick Sparber You don't suppose Wrong Way Steinhoff accidentally shot down a UFO, do you? :-) :-) Perhaps! My fav Roswell explanations are: 1) Two UFO's collided. One was likely talking on their cell phone. 2) The UFO's propulsion system was affected by a new high-power radar.
Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescence
Reading around the subject of sonoluminescence I was interested to come across the following. Single-bubble sonoluminescence pulses can have very stable periods and positions. In fact, the frequency of light flashes can be more stable than the rated frequency stability of the oscillator making the sound waves driving them. Being a concrete head (to use Keith's sobriquet) I immediately visualized the effect of jumping up and down on prestressed concrete footbridges and putting them into resonance. The frequency of the footbridge bounce is far more stable than the rated frequency of the oscillator (me) making the waves driving them. Now since the bubble is a very high pF (low Beta- atmosphere pressure) cavity, it occurred to me that one could see it as miniature cavity magnetron. Th combination of its small size and it low B-a pressure [high tension if one will insist on using an anthropomorphic datum ;-) ] suggests that it will be transmitting EM radiation at very short wave lengths and high frequencies. Of course, this explanation is so obvious that one immediately asks oneself, why on earth has no one else suggested it. I submit it is because when people come to put numbers on the problem, they are hamstrung by the failure to recognise the existence of the reduced Beta-atmosphere pressure in the cavity and its effect on those numbers. Perhaps Son Et Lumière is the key, not only to the wider recognition of the Beta-atmosphere's existence but also to the understanding of LENR. Cheers, Frank Grimer in principio erat Verbum et lux in tenebris lucet
Re: Energetics Technologies LENR Patent
From: John Coviello I've been a member for about a month now. I've been following the cold fusion saga from the very begining. I'm just looking for more concrete information on what Energetics Technologies is doing. Everything about them is hearsay. They have no presence on the Internet that I know of. Perhaps they're doing some wonderful things, but who knows. Do you know if they have any U.S. operations? I read that the owner of Jones Apparel is funding them. I'm sorry, John. That was intended as a joke. (hence the smiley face) Did you read the references? At ICCF10 their superwave theory caused some surprise. That is the paper referenced on the LENR site and was referenced recently on the list. They have received some funding from an angel in the US. (Hmmm. Is Jones Apparel . . . naaa that's LL Bean) I don't know how much. Rumor is it was around $2M. AFAIK, they have no web presence; but, they are one of two companies that we have talked about that are working on a commercial product using LENR. Wouldn't that be something, an Israeli company putting OPEC out of business! Jed or Ed might know more. I think McKubre knows more but he's not here.
Re: The secret of S.L
Grimer wrote.. Th combination of its small size and it low B-a pressure [high tension if one will insist on using an anthropomorphic datum ;-) ] suggests that it will be transmitting EM radiation at very short wave lengths and high frequencies.I submit it is because when people come to put numbers on the problem, they are hamstrung by the failure to recognise the existence of the reduced Beta-atmosphere pressure in the cavity and its effect on those numbers.Perhaps Son Et Lumière is the key, not only to the wider recognition of the Beta-atmosphere's existence but also to the understanding of LENR. Frank.. intriguing thought !! SL produces a burst of UV light during the implosion cycle. hmmm. I await the completion of your thoughts on this segment. Richard
Re: vaporware batteries
From: thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: vaporware batteries Jones wrote; Speaking of that one good battery http://www.blacklightpower.com/battery.shtml 500 times better performance (energy density) than lithium ion, but alas vaporware. What advanced battery isn't vaporware, these days. I assume that the Aluminium Battery does what the inventor says it does. The BLP Battery, OTOH, I want to see work. I would seem to me that fuel cell would be a better name than battery. Question to Mike Carrell, have you seen the BLP Battery work? MC: In short, no. For most purposes it is vaporware, one of the last-but-not-least products that may be in the BLP parade, for one simple reason: commercial deployment requires large quantities of high-p hydrino hydrides, which means lots of reactors, which is not yet. Apart from the BLP battery, there are other high energy battery chemistries. One I recall is the sodium-sulfer battery which used liquid sodium metal, which has to be kept hot, and very reactively dangerous if it gets loose. Mike Carrell
Re: vaporware batteries
From: Mike Carrell MC: In short, no. For most purposes it is vaporware, one of the last-but-not-least products that may be in the BLP parade, for one simple reason: commercial deployment requires large quantities of high-p hydrino hydrides, which means lots of reactors, which is not yet. I'm not sure I agree (we rarely do). If your goal is to simply make and filter hydrinos for production purposes, it should be a lot easier than capturing and converting the UV energy. As an aside, I was surprised that you were the same age as Jones. God only knows how old Fred and Horace are. Are we all Grumpy Old Men? (My three lovely grandchildren call me Grump Grump)
Re: vaporware batteries
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: vaporware batteries From: Mike Carrell MC: In short, no. For most purposes it is vaporware, one of the last-but-not-least products that may be in the BLP parade, for one simple reason: commercial deployment requires large quantities of high-p hydrino hydrides, which means lots of reactors, which is not yet. I'm not sure I agree (we rarely do). If your goal is to simply make and filter hydrinos for production purposes, it should be a lot easier than capturing and converting the UV energy. One charming aspect of the BLP picture is that if you are a chemical company needing hydrinos for your products, you can buy a BLP reaactor system, hook it to your drinking fountain, and make your own, while producing enough power to run your factory and sell some to the grid. Or, if you want power, you can buy a BLP micropower station and sell the hydrinos on the market as a valuable chemical feedstock. You get UV and hydrinos from the plasma. No good direct to electric conversion is in sight, so far as I can see, so you go the wasteful thermal cycle. The chicken and egg problem requires energy chickens first. there is an immediate demand for energy and conversion systems are well understood. For chemicals, first the lab guys at company A have to become familiar with the properties of BLP-N1, then figure out what kind of product to make [nail polish or battleship paint?] and then go through a very messy RD cycle which could take years before you get to the marketing campaign -- and by then you have to be sure you have a guaranteed supply of BLP-N1. As an aside, I was surprised that you were the same age as Jones. God only knows how old Fred and Horace are. Are we all Grumpy Old Men? I work on the decimal system, 39.XX. I fear I become increasingly grumpy, and I'm not 40 yet :-). (My three lovely grandchildren call me Grump Grump) Mike Carrell
