Re: [Vo]:Common conditions are not pathological, by definition!
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: That the sickle-cell variation is healthier in Africa does not mean that it is here and now in the U.S. Of course not! But large number of people moving from one continent to another is unnatural. I was referring to natural conditions. A problem that is clearly caused by changes in environment should be fixed by changing the environment back the way it was. How far back? And how much do we change? And who manages said change? To fix the obesity problem we move back to foodways circa 1965. That's not a big deal. See: fast food portion distortion. http://www.mealsmatter.org/EatingForHealth/Topics/article.aspx?articleId=53 Serving Sizes Then and Now Food or beverage1950s Expanded 2003 portion French fries2.4 ounces up to 7.1 ounces Fountain soda 7.0 ounces 12 to 64 ounces Hamburger patty 1.6 ounces up to 8.0 ounces Hamburger sandwich 3.9 ounces 4.4 to 12.6 ounces Muffin 3.0 ounces 6.5 ounces Pasta serving 1.5 cups3.0 cups Chocolate bar 1 ounce 2.6 to 8 ounces In my opinion, many social problems such as obesity are easier to fix than people realize. I realize it is difficult, but the difficulties are exaggerated in the mass media. The energy crisis is also easier and cheaper to fix than we realize, even without cold fusion. Mainly we lack gumption. Global warming will be hard to fix without cold fusion. I distrust recent proposals for planetary-scale engineering, such as the project advocated by Russ George to put iron oxide into to the ocean. Of course we are already engaged in planetary-scale engineering, pumping megatons of CO2 into the atmosphere, but I would prefer to stop, rather than pumping something else into the atmosphere or oceans. - Jed
[Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
I just tried this with three messages which were probably too big. I think 40 KB is the limit. Microsoft Word put this table out in HTML with enormous overhead. This version is prepared with an HTML editor. Britz database stats Res+Res-Res0NoYearTotalPositiveNegativeUndecidedEvaluationPositive + Undecided198920546832254681990248757641561161991130462918376419926522131119 331993663110817391994422033162319952919361251996482410773119973219247231998 3319239221999231801419200015100141120011711204112002189207920037210422004640 02420056222042006640115200755000520086200422009001007388238128253516 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
Ah. That worked. Let me try HTML from on-line article: The following table shows just how much more people consume in a serving today compared to people in the 50s: *Serving Sizes Then and Now**Food or beverage**1950s**Expanded 2003 portion*French fries 2.4 ounces up to 7.1 ouncesFountain soda 7.0 ounces 12 to 64 ouncesHamburger patty 1.6 ounces up to 8.0 ouncesHamburger sandwich 3.9 ounces 4.4 to 12.6 ouncesMuffin 3.0 ounces 6.5 ouncesPasta serving 1.5 cups 3.0 cupsChocolate bar 1 ounce 2.6 to 8 ounces
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
Look fine. 40 kB is the *coded* limit. Mime encoding adds about 25% overhead. Word overhead over text on small messages is outrageous. That's why we made hypertext. T On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Can the readers here see the two tables I just sent? The first one is from a spreadsheet output in HTML format. The second is copied from an on-line article. This is a neater, more readable way of posting tabular data here. Lots of overhead though . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
looks good to me. a LOT of people on this list use non html email readers though. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Can the readers here see the two tables I just sent? The first one is from a spreadsheet output in HTML format. The second is copied from an on-line article. This is a neater, more readable way of posting tabular data here. Lots of overhead though . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
I just realized Microsoft Outlook users might not have seen my last email correctly, so here it is again in rich text. On Feb 12, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I just tried this with three messages which were probably too big. I think 40 KB is the limit. Microsoft Word put this table out in HTML with enormous overhead. This version is prepared with an HTML editor. Britz database stats [snip] It came through nicely on my Mac. However, HTML in general, and graphics in particular, are not good in the archives. Graphics and some HTML or even rich text also do not show up properly at the online archives, www.mail-archive.com. Happily, ascii graphics and blank line white space, which many Microsoft users don't get properly via plain text, show up nicely in the archives. See: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg37685.html [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4 Jed Rothwell Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:08:37 -0800 I just tried this with three messages which were probably too big. I think 40 KB is the limit. Microsoft Word put this table out in HTML with enormous overhead. This version is prepared with an HTML editor. Britz database stats Res+Res-Res0NoYearTotalPositiveNegativeUndecidedEvaluationPositive + Undecided198920546832254681990248757641561161991130462918376419926522131 119 331993663110817391994422033162319952919361251996482410773119973219247231 998 331923922199923180141920001510014112001171120411200218920792003721042200 4640 02420056222042006640115200755000520086200422009001007388238128253516 - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - And see: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg37686.html Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4 Jed Rothwell Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:11:50 -0800 Ah. That worked. Let me try HTML from on-line article: The following table shows just how much more people consume in a serving today compared to people in the 50s: *Serving Sizes Then and Now**Food or beverage**1950s**Expanded 2003 portion*French fries 2.4 ounces up to 7.1 ouncesFountain soda 7.0 ounces 12 to 64 ouncesHamburger patty 1.6 ounces up to 8.0 ouncesHamburger sandwich 3.9 ounces 4.4 to 12.6 ouncesMuffin 3.0 ounces 6.5 ouncesPasta serving 1.5 cups 3.0 cupsChocolate bar 1 ounce 2.6 to 8 ounces - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
Horace Heffner wrote: It came through nicely on my Mac. However, HTML in general, and graphics in particular, are not good in the archives. Graphics and some HTML or even rich text also do not show up properly at the online archives, http://www.mail-archive.comwww.mail-archive.com. Ouch. Happily, ascii graphics and blank line white space, which many Microsoft users don't get properly via plain text, show up nicely in the archives. That's sorta hard to make. It there a program to convert tables into ascii graphics and blank spaces? It sounds like something I would have written in 1978. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: It came through nicely on my Mac. However, HTML in general, and graphics in particular, are not good in the archives. Graphics and some HTML or even rich text also do not show up properly at the online archives, www.mail-archive.com. Ouch. Happily, ascii graphics and blank line white space, which many Microsoft users don't get properly via plain text, show up nicely in the archives. That's sorta hard to make. It there a program to convert tables into ascii graphics and blank spaces? It sounds like something I would have written in 1978. - Jed If you leave out the graphics and just print a table as rich text, that might work. If it does not come out in columns, due to a variable font, you might be able to fix that by selecting the text and converting it to a fixed font. Converting to a small pitch (as I did below) is sometimes useful for getting everything to show up without line wrap for some people, and some lists, but the pitch in www.mail-archive.com is fixed, as is the line width, so everyone sees line wrap there is you exceed the maximum. I'm not sure what the maximum line width is for www.mail-archive.com but the scale following will help tell that. If it is a spreadsheet important to you and that you might refer to at a later date you might just covert it to a pdf, put it on your web site, and provide the URL instead. Even better is to convert to modifiable HTML spreadsheet format, so people can plug in their own data to affect the totals, do projections, etc. Following is 10 pitch Courier, at least as I sent it anyway. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8. 9 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012 345678901234567890 http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg37685.html [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4 Jed Rothwell Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:08:37 -0800 I just tried this with three messages which were probably too big. I think 40 KB is the limit. Microsoft Word put this table out in HTML with enormous overhead. This version is prepared with an HTML editor. Britz database stats Res+Res-Res0NoYearTotalPositiveNegativeUndecidedEvaluationPositive + Undecided198920546832254681990248757641561161991130462918376419926522131 119 331993663110817391994422033162319952919361251996482410773119973219247231 998 331923922199923180141920001510014112001171120411200218920792003721042200 4640 02420056222042006640115200755000520086200422009001007388238128253516 - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - And see: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg37686.html Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4 Jed Rothwell Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:11:50 -0800 Ah. That worked. Let me try HTML from on-line article: The following table shows just how much more people consume in a serving today compared to people in the 50s: *Serving Sizes Then and Now**Food or beverage**1950s**Expanded 2003 portion*French fries 2.4 ounces up to 7.1 ouncesFountain soda 7.0 ounces 12 to 64 ouncesHamburger patty 1.6 ounces up to 8.0 ouncesHamburger sandwich 3.9 ounces 4.4 to 12.6 ouncesMuffin 3.0 ounces 6.5 ouncesPasta serving 1.5 cups 3.0 cupsChocolate bar 1 ounce 2.6 to 8 ounces - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
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[Vo]:A Nano-Cavity Rocket Z-PEC Zero-Point Energy Converter
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