Re: [Vo]:TEST
Kyle Mcallister wrote: A few days ago, I attempted to post a message. It was rejected with the following message: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |flist vortex-l (reason: Cannot open input) (expanded from: vortex-l@eskimo.com) I had the very same problem. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion journal list
Horace Heffner wrote: The journal name abbreviations are from an approved list that Ed Storms copied from Los Alamos years ago. I found an on-line version at U. British Columbia: http://www.library.ubc.ca/scieng/coden.htmlhttp://www.library.ubc.ca/scieng/coden.html [snip] Indian J. Theo. Phys. Infinite Energy - Nice to see Infinite Energy in the list. Well, it isn't on the lists at Los Alamos or U. British Columbia. That's why it is not abbreviated. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The Jed Rothwell Song
Good ideas all. I was playing that song with my left hand on the piano, right hand on the organ, and feet on the drum and symbol. Can you believe it, I never had a music lesson. I could use a singer. Jed, can you sing? Frank
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
From Don W.: http://www.bloomenergy.com/ http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ http://green.venturebeat.com/2010/02/19/fuel-cell-maker-bloom-energy-finally-sheds-cloak-of-mystery-this-sunday/ Google the following: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - bloom energy fuel cell - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensource=hpq=bloom+energy+fuel+cellaq=1sxaqi=g-s1g-sx2g-s1g-sx6oq=bloomenergy Needless to say rampant blogging, both pro and con, is in full swing in regards to the legitimacy of this new technology. I hope they succeed. Inevitably a few bloggers have already speculated that certain fossil fuel energy companies will try to buy them out so that the technology can be buried - out-of-sight out-of-mind. I find such speculation to be absurd. If anything natural gas companies should be jumping up and down for glee. They will help fund it! The rampant manufacture of bloom boxes spreading across the planet like an unchecked virus is likely to guarantee a bright secure future for all natural gas companies and their share holders for decades to come. What interests me more is the likelihood that bloom boxes may help usher in a subtle shift in global consciousness as individuals, neighborhood, villages, and countries begin to realize the fact that it is no longer necessary to rely on the construction of centralized (and vulnerable to terrorism) power plants. The planet's consciousness will gradually swing towards a novel concept: That energy self-sufficiency starts in the home, and not at some massive power plant located 300 miles away. Later, as newer and even more exotic AE technologies, such as cold fusion, or BLP finally get their act in gear and start manufacturing their own devices I suspect there will be few BloomBox customers who will bat and eye and trade in their bloomboxes for an even better and cleaner (a true CO2 free) technology. I suspect it's likely that most of the developing countries, particularly those with undeveloped centralized power infrastructures in place, are likely to reap tremendous benefits from the bloombox - probably far more immediate benefits than most developed nations are likely to feel. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
FW: [Vo]:\'Gravity\' IS el GRAVION WAVE=The TACHYON-WAVE
Here-here: Yes indeed this is the 'classic' picture. However; because we are a relatively 'low-density' energy 'bubble/universe' within a Hyper-density/hyper-speed/hyper-fluidic(thusly HYPER-GRAVIONIC) DarkEnergy Carrier wave AEXO-COSMOS;-- the BIG-CRUNCH 'classic' theory is fundamentally in error. And in point of fact; the big-bang/big-crunch picture is exactly inverse/inside-out/and backwards. The Einstein-Strange 'truth' is pretty much a mirror-image reverse of how we have 'interpreted' the data up until now. THE GALAXIES/all-atomic-mass is HYPER ACCELERATING to be 'disolved'(indeed) but at the OUTER-UNIVERSE BORDER to the fanfare of the WELL-OBSERVED(a la' Saul Perlmutter-LBL.gov) 360-degree-spherical array of HYPER-GAMMA-RAY BURSTER beacon phenomenon a 'said' UNIVERSE BUBBLE BORDER. In short this is a 'CONTINUOUS' fluid-dynamic system and the UNIVERSE CENTRAL-HUB BIG-BANG-SINGULARITY/SYPHON CENTRE is yer open/fountaining/alive well(although modulated balanced since the PAROXISMAL Big-Band INITIAL OPENING MOMENT of the SUPER-WHITE-HOLE plasma-ingress-breach from PARENT/ADJACENT Dark-Energy AEXOSPACE. The 'classic' view of 'Gravity' is OBSOLETE/REDUNDANT. Gravion/AEXOTACHYON-Carrer-Wave-flow-function' TRANSDIMENSIONAL FLUID DYNAMIC is the 'classic-views' FACTUAL REPLACEMENT.-Jake Lev-Harbach/O'Sullivan-(not meant to be 'rude'//just fact) From: henis...@netvision.net.il To: alset9te...@hotmail.com Subject: [Vo]:\'Gravity\' IS el GRAVION WAVE=The TACHYON-WAVE Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 04:17:23 +0200 Gravity Simplified Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos A. E=Total[m(1 + D)] Is the relationship between the cosmic energy(E), mass(m), and spatial expansion distance(D) since the cataclysmic E/m superposition resolution. At 10^-35 seconds since big bang, D was already a fraction of a second above zero. This is when gravity started. This is what started gravity. At this instance started the energy space texture, the straining of space texture, and started the space-texture-memory, gravity, that most probably will eventually overcome expansion and initiate impansion back to singularity, again. The clusters of galaxies behave as accelerating classical Newtonian bodies. Their motion is fueled with energy from myriads of mass-to-energy reconversions, in intertwined evolutions within the clusters. B. The mass-to-energy reconversions continuously diminish m, as D continuously increases The energy spent on increasing D, the clusters expansion, becomes the potential impansion energy that will eventually re-form singularity. This is gravity. This is the striving of the resolved-from-energy mass to return to its sigularity wholeness. m are ALL cosmic formats of mass, regardless of size and complexity, including astronomic-to-smallest-particle bodies and all energy-mass organizations such as black holes environs, biospheres-lifes, all sizes and varieties of spin-arrays. C. Mass is destined to dis-exist. It attempts to postpone-survive this by ingesting of energy The cosmic expansion will eventually nearly run out of fuel-energy, when at some value of D it will be overcome by gravity and impansion will thus set in. The universe will then revert towards singularity. D will go on a diminishing course and m will enter a growing course of evolution, very different from the present cosmic evolution course. D. Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos The universe came into being with inflation, with the onset of gravity. Gravity has been setting the course and nature of all the aspects of its evolution. Gravity will eventually terminate cosmic expansion and reverse the course of cosmic evolution. Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos Dov Henis (Comments From The 22nd Century) 28Dec09 Implications Of E=Total[m(1 + D)] http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/184.page#4587 Cosmic Evolution Simplified http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/240/122.page#4427 _ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
[Vo]:ZPE GRAVITY is 'GRAVION WAVE'=The TACHYON-WAVE
Scott:
THE EASY ADJUSTMENT: per John Wheeler would be:-- BAE-Constant @ 1E= {5.6 *
10^94 g / cm^3} and then 'work-up' from there.-Jack-
From: scott...@hotmail.com
To: alset9te...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: ZPE GRAVITY is 'GRAVION WAVE'=The TACHYON-WAVE
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:26:54 -0800
What do you arrive at for a mass-energy density of Space? I trend to subscribe
to John Wheeler's approach which leads to about .--5.6 * 10^94 g /
cm^3(Relativistic Aether on Steroids!)
Scott
From: alset9te...@hotmail.com
To: scott...@hotmail.com
Subject: ZPE GRAVITY is 'GRAVION WAVE'=The TACHYON-WAVE
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:49:07 +
-Jack Harbach O'Sullivan- AEXODarkEnergy/GRAVION-TACHYON WAVE
* * * AND THE REALLY NEAT THING: This
Transdimensional/Transtemporally/Transpectrumally Fractallation-Viscosity LAW
is INEXORABLE UBIQUITOUS provides universally that EINSTEIN-ROSEN
toroid-reactor ZPE-HYPER-ENERGY ACCESS can tap this UNIVERSAL-SINGULARITY-LAW
of the Micro-Cosmos/Macro-Cosmos/HyperSpace-HyperEnergyAexocosmos.
The subsequent INFLOW energy can becontrolled in the ZPE-TOROID REACTOR via
FIELD-DRAG and will/is availing us VIRTUALLY INFINITE cross-spectrum
flow/induction energy.
* * *OR: How the BIG-BANG left us ACCESS via the
Electro-Plasmic-Gravion-Toroid 'BREACH REACTORS our ZPE-Einstein/Rosen
connection to PARENT/PARALLEL/ADJACENT Gravion-Tachyon-speed DarkEnergy
AEXOCOSMOS HYPER-SPACE. The multi-Bubble Universes spawn Champagne like as
relative LOW-DENSITY BUBBLES with Dark Energy Hyper Space via the
TOROID-FRACTAL CENTRE breach LOW DENSITY SINGULARITIES setting up the BIG-BANG
SYPHON system that we call our UNIVERSE.
* * * In SHORT: Gravity is a Tachyon-Speed-SUPER-WAVE; now seen as THE
GRAVION/TACHYON-Speed/ELECTRO-PLASMIC-OMNIWAVE: Thusly 'Gravity' is hardly
'The Weak Force,' but rather THE ONLY FORCE misunderstood when 'seen' at
various functional levels within a self-attenuated force-gradient range due to
micro-atomic structural process interactions * * *
* * *
CASIMIR FORCEs: Via this model Casimir Forces become far easier to
define/understand and mathmatically plot; even though the
VIRTUAL-NO-TIME/VIRTUA-NO-DISTANCE aspects of SuperSpeedDense
AEXOTACHYON-GRAVION WAVE ingress-atomic-field lends itself to TRANSTEMPORAL
distortions within said PROTON-CENTRAL TOROIDAL COMPRESSION field. This cross
correlates in macrocosm to the PROTON as a the 'micro-sized' model of the
BLUE-WHITE CENTRAL SINGULARITY at 'Bubble-Universe-Centre.'
* * * ZPE/Feynman* * **And the most 'simple-key' is recognizing a basic
starting-foundational ENERGY CONSTANT which I have called the BAE-Constant /or
Base Ambient Energy Constant for our 'Space-Time-Normal' Bubble Universe
ofsimplyONE-ENERGY---1E; and the subtle profundity in this that
subsequent calculations will 'ONLY WORK' via DELETING the concept of a
ZERO-ENERGY speed-density level. And 'bottom line,' since we are truely
REACHING here for a TECHNOLOGICALLY ACCESSABLE Feynman-ZPE/Zero Point Energy;
the large irony in accessing said ZPE is first accomplished by deleting the
ZERO. Obviously, although subtley, in modern mathmatical constructs the
inclusion of a 0/ZERO-CONSTANT was GENIUS-HUGE. But in ENERGY, ZERO is a
FICTION. And this alone has what has been hanging us up from Newton until Now.
IN SHORT: There is NO SUCH STATE as a TOTAL ENERGY VOID/vacuum. ergo-'Empty'
Insterstellar Space is 'relatively' the state of BAE-Constant energy
speed-density level of ONE-'E'nergy, or, 1E-Space-Time-Normal. This renders
Einstein's E=MC^2quared a la' BAE-Constant at 1E to convert solving for 'M'ass
being more clearly( CONSTANTly) to read--{M=EC^2quared)
BAE-Constant 1E at Light-Speed/'C' is simply LIGHT=EC
One Hydrogen ELECTRO-VALENT-SHELL-field= ONE QUANTUM-ELECTRON at speed-density
formula--- 1EVS=E(C/2)^2quared or ONE QUANTUM ELECTRON(/or 'current
quantum-electron flow') energy speed-density at BAE-Constant 1E x
Half-light-speed SQUARED.
In short(again) our Space-Time-Normal Universe is a 'Bubble' within(relatively
inifinte) the AexoDarkEnergySpace AEXOCOSMOS which at AEXO-BAE=EC^3ubed which
DEFINES DARK-ENERGY SPEED-DENSITY aka BLACK-HOLE SINGULARITY NEXUS
SPEED-DENSITY aka AexoDarkEnergy PARENT/ADJACENT space.
__
GREAT NEWS: It's time to 'reboot' aka it's a 'NEW BALL GAME' with 'not merely'
a NEW SCORE CARD; oh no;
it's NOW TIME for a completely NEW SCORE SYSTEM for WORLD PHYSICS as WE KNOW
IT. . . (also, Great news Spook, no gruel today!---Ok Screw, What are we
having for lunch? CRAMPS~;-)
NEWTONIAN PHYSICS quantified Gravitational Attraction between 'object/bodies'
within Space-Time-Normal
according to their Relative-Mass. In the Newtonian Principia the old
Alchemyst accomplished this with
Genius-Accuracy of mathmatic precision; and thusly in a real defacto sence
[Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
Attention Bill, I figured you'd find this interesting. http://www.dump.com/2010/02/13/smoke-ring-collision/ Its two vortex rings of different colored smoke hitting each other head on. Very cool.
[Vo]:96% Solar
California Institute of Technology (Caltech) researchers have demonstrated
flexible solar cells that absorb up to 96 percent of incident light, by growing
arrays of silicon wires in a polymer substrate.
http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800598697_765245_NT_f465de7c.HTM?88000433378800598697click_from=8800043337,9497514579,2010-02-23,EEOL,ARTICLE_ALERT
Scott
From: alset9te...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:05:52 +
Subject: [Vo]:ZPE GRAVITY is 'GRAVION WAVE'=The TACHYON-WAVE
Scott:
THE EASY ADJUSTMENT: per John Wheeler would be:-- BAE-Constant @ 1E= {5.6 *
10^94 g / cm^3} and then 'work-up' from there.-Jack-
From: scott...@hotmail.com
To: alset9te...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: ZPE GRAVITY is 'GRAVION WAVE'=The TACHYON-WAVE
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:26:54 -0800
What do you arrive at for a mass-energy density of Space? I trend to subscribe
to John Wheeler's approach which leads to about .--5.6 * 10^94 g /
cm^3(Relativistic Aether on Steroids!)
Scott
From: alset9te...@hotmail.com
To: scott...@hotmail.com
Subject: ZPE GRAVITY is 'GRAVION WAVE'=The TACHYON-WAVE
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:49:07 +
-Jack Harbach O'Sullivan- AEXODarkEnergy/GRAVION-TACHYON WAVE
* * * AND THE REALLY NEAT THING: This
Transdimensional/Transtemporally/Transpectrumally Fractallation-Viscosity LAW
is INEXORABLE UBIQUITOUS provides universally that EINSTEIN-ROSEN
toroid-reactor ZPE-HYPER-ENERGY ACCESS can tap this UNIVERSAL-SINGULARITY-LAW
of the Micro-Cosmos/Macro-Cosmos/HyperSpace-HyperEnergyAexocosmos.
The subsequent INFLOW energy can becontrolled in the ZPE-TOROID REACTOR via
FIELD-DRAG and will/is availing us VIRTUALLY INFINITE cross-spectrum
flow/induction energy.
* * *OR: How the BIG-BANG left us ACCESS via the
Electro-Plasmic-Gravion-Toroid 'BREACH REACTORS our ZPE-Einstein/Rosen
connection to PARENT/PARALLEL/ADJACENT Gravion-Tachyon-speed DarkEnergy
AEXOCOSMOS HYPER-SPACE. The multi-Bubble Universes spawn Champagne like as
relative LOW-DENSITY BUBBLES with Dark Energy Hyper Space via the
TOROID-FRACTAL CENTRE breach LOW DENSITY SINGULARITIES setting up the BIG-BANG
SYPHON system that we call our UNIVERSE.
* * * In SHORT: Gravity is a Tachyon-Speed-SUPER-WAVE; now seen as THE
GRAVION/TACHYON-Speed/ELECTRO-PLASMIC-OMNIWAVE: Thusly 'Gravity' is hardly
'The Weak Force,' but rather THE ONLY FORCE misunderstood when 'seen' at
various functional levels within a self-attenuated force-gradient range due to
micro-atomic structural process interactions * * *
* * *
CASIMIR FORCEs: Via this model Casimir Forces become far easier to
define/understand and mathmatically plot; even though the
VIRTUAL-NO-TIME/VIRTUA-NO-DISTANCE aspects of SuperSpeedDense
AEXOTACHYON-GRAVION WAVE ingress-atomic-field lends itself to TRANSTEMPORAL
distortions within said PROTON-CENTRAL TOROIDAL COMPRESSION field. This cross
correlates in macrocosm to the PROTON as a the 'micro-sized' model of the
BLUE-WHITE CENTRAL SINGULARITY at 'Bubble-Universe-Centre.'
* * * ZPE/Feynman* * **And the most 'simple-key' is recognizing a basic
starting-foundational ENERGY CONSTANT which I have called the BAE-Constant /or
Base Ambient Energy Constant for our 'Space-Time-Normal' Bubble Universe
ofsimplyONE-ENERGY---1E; and the subtle profundity in this that
subsequent calculations will 'ONLY WORK' via DELETING the concept of a
ZERO-ENERGY speed-density level. And 'bottom line,' since we are truely
REACHING here for a TECHNOLOGICALLY ACCESSABLE Feynman-ZPE/Zero Point Energy;
the large irony in accessing said ZPE is first accomplished by deleting the
ZERO. Obviously, although subtley, in modern mathmatical constructs the
inclusion of a 0/ZERO-CONSTANT was GENIUS-HUGE. But in ENERGY, ZERO is a
FICTION. And this alone has what has been hanging us up from Newton until Now.
IN SHORT: There is NO SUCH STATE as a TOTAL ENERGY VOID/vacuum. ergo-'Empty'
Insterstellar Space is 'relatively' the state of BAE-Constant energy
speed-density level of ONE-'E'nergy, or, 1E-Space-Time-Normal. This renders
Einstein's E=MC^2quared a la' BAE-Constant at 1E to convert solving for 'M'ass
being more clearly( CONSTANTly) to read--{M=EC^2quared)
BAE-Constant 1E at Light-Speed/'C' is simply LIGHT=EC
One Hydrogen ELECTRO-VALENT-SHELL-field= ONE QUANTUM-ELECTRON at speed-density
formula--- 1EVS=E(C/2)^2quared or ONE QUANTUM ELECTRON(/or 'current
quantum-electron flow') energy speed-density at BAE-Constant 1E x
Half-light-speed SQUARED.
In short(again) our Space-Time-Normal Universe is a 'Bubble' within(relatively
inifinte) the AexoDarkEnergySpace AEXOCOSMOS which at AEXO-BAE=EC^3ubed which
DEFINES DARK-ENERGY SPEED-DENSITY aka BLACK-HOLE SINGULARITY NEXUS
SPEED-DENSITY aka AexoDarkEnergy PARENT/ADJACENT space.
__
GREAT NEWS: It's time to 'reboot' aka it's a 'NEW BALL GAME'
Re: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
That's astounding! Who would have though it would be so symmetrical. It must be perfectly still air inside the test box. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ I think Bloom Energy is looking to install 100 Kilowatt power units in everyone's houses. These will be flex-fuel, but likely running mostly on natural gas. They will also probably produce heat, and cooling, as well as power, making the devices roughly 85% efficient (thus generating two times less greenhouse gas emissions than a power plant per unit of power used.) Not very geeky considering that the mean electric power consumption for an average house is 1 kW. A 10 kW unit should be adequate. Terry
RE: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
Don't forget the electric car in the garage. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ I think Bloom Energy is looking to install 100 Kilowatt power units in everyone's houses. These will be flex-fuel, but likely running mostly on natural gas. They will also probably produce heat, and cooling, as well as power, making the devices roughly 85% efficient (thus generating two times less greenhouse gas emissions than a power plant per unit of power used.) Not very geeky considering that the mean electric power consumption for an average house is 1 kW. A 10 kW unit should be adequate. Terry
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ I think Bloom Energy is looking to install 100 Kilowatt power units in everyone's houses. These will be flex-fuel, but likely running mostly on natural gas. They will also probably produce heat, and cooling, as well as power, making the devices roughly 85% efficient (thus generating two times less greenhouse gas emissions than a power plant per unit of power used.) Not very geeky considering that the mean electric power consumption for an average house is 1 kW. A 10 kW unit should be adequate. Adequate, yes, but if you have huge house and you want keep everything running because you use the generator full time, you need something bigger. The Generac corporation has a web page used to size their stand-by generators: http://www.generac.com/Residential/Sizer/http://www.generac.com/Residential/Sizer/ I just told the configuration page that I live in Atlanta and have a 5000 sq. ft. house and I want to turn on absolutely everything they have listed at the same time. The page figured I would need 46 kW to 59 kW of capacity. The Generac Guardian Series 60 kW unit costs $16,122 retail from Amazon.com. Actually my house is 2000 sq. ft. and I don't even have most of the high demand stuff they list on the config page such as an electric range and electric water heater or a hot tub. Configuring it for my real house, which has a heat pump, it tells me I need 12 kW to 16 kW and recommends the 17 kW unit, which Amazon sells for $3,600, including the panel and equipment for the automatic transfer switch. It is powered by natural gas. Very reasonable cost. If I had someone in the house with a medical condition that requires electricity (as a neighbor of mine used to have) I would get one of these. I suppose it would cost a few grand to have this installed . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com wrote: Don't forget the electric car in the garage. Nope. That's where I put the blooming Bloombox. The car needs about 20 hp to take me to work. That's about 30 kWh both ways. Considering I sleep with the lights off, I should be able to top it off before work. It's the HVAC that will be the kicker. I foresee a business in residential load management centers.
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
My friend who lives in the St. Ives Country Club has a 50 kW diesel. His house is about 8,000 ft^2. 100 kW is just ridiculous. You have to supply fuel still. Buy the 10 kW unit and one my my fine load management centers I am presently designing. :-) T On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ I think Bloom Energy is looking to install 100 Kilowatt power units in everyone's houses. These will be flex-fuel, but likely running mostly on natural gas. They will also probably produce heat, and cooling, as well as power, making the devices roughly 85% efficient (thus generating two times less greenhouse gas emissions than a power plant per unit of power used.) Not very geeky considering that the mean electric power consumption for an average house is 1 kW. A 10 kW unit should be adequate. Adequate, yes, but if you have huge house and you want keep everything running because you use the generator full time, you need something bigger. The Generac corporation has a web page used to size their stand-by generators: http://www.generac.com/Residential/Sizer/ I just told the configuration page that I live in Atlanta and have a 5000 sq. ft. house and I want to turn on absolutely everything they have listed at the same time. The page figured I would need 46 kW to 59 kW of capacity. The Generac Guardian Series 60 kW unit costs $16,122 retail from Amazon.com. Actually my house is 2000 sq. ft. and I don't even have most of the high demand stuff they list on the config page such as an electric range and electric water heater or a hot tub. Configuring it for my real house, which has a heat pump, it tells me I need 12 kW to 16 kW and recommends the 17 kW unit, which Amazon sells for $3,600, including the panel and equipment for the automatic transfer switch. It is powered by natural gas. Very reasonable cost. If I had someone in the house with a medical condition that requires electricity (as a neighbor of mine used to have) I would get one of these. I suppose it would cost a few grand to have this installed . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
From Terry: http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/ I think Bloom Energy is looking to install 100 Kilowatt power units in everyone's houses. These will be flex-fuel, but likely running mostly on natural gas. They will also probably produce heat, and cooling, as well as power, making the devices roughly 85% efficient (thus generating two times less greenhouse gas emissions than a power plant per unit of power used.) Not very geeky considering that the mean electric power consumption for an average house is 1 kW. A 10 kW unit should be adequate. Indeed, I was also under the impression that you only need to produce 50 kw units to power most cars. American households OTOH typically need far less than 100 kw. I was told: Possibly up to 20 - 25 kw for peak performance. If this company actually does start selling 100 kw units in-mass for American household there is obviously the potential to generate a lot of excess electricity that could be fed back into the grid, a kind of collective insurance energy program that benefits the local neighborhood. As Mike Carrell once commented, it would become crucial that any excess electricity destined to be fed back into the grid be synchronized in order to avoid explosive power transmission disasters.I envision a lot of regulation will soon be in store for anyone who wishes to generate their own electricity. Soon in the works will be new rules and regulations that everyone must adhere to in order to practice safe grid procedures. It's my understanding that at present these 100 kw units cost hundreds of thousands of dollars using current manufacturing techniques.Obviously they plan on reducing current costs significantly within 5 - 10 years. They have even speculated on the possibility of being able to sell 100 kw units for a mere $3000. That's a tall order considering their current price tag. Nevertheless, necessity is the mother of invention, so I gather it's not entirely impossible. IMO, what might be a more lucrative approach would be to manufacture smaller Bloom boxes, boxes a quarter of the current size, where they only generate 25 kw at peak performance. In theory that could mean individual unit costs might be be reduced to around $1000. Very attractive! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
The thing's huge! And add the fuel tank too. Not practical for a car. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com wrote: Don't forget the electric car in the garage. Nope. That's where I put the blooming Bloombox. The car needs about 20 hp to take me to work. That's about 30 kWh both ways. Considering I sleep with the lights off, I should be able to top it off before work. It's the HVAC that will be the kicker. I foresee a business in residential load management centers.
[Vo]:Casimir effect, Time and Lorentzian Ether Theory
Numerous claims of anomalous heat between atomic hydrogen and catalysts supports the [url=http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0507193v2]relativistic; hydrogen theory of Jan Naudts[/url]. Naudts theory resolved the controversy regarding fractional hydrogen but introduced relativistic hydrogen inside a stationary reactor! This is not hydrogen accelerated through space to luminal velocities; this concept requires equivalent motion between time and space but unlike the slowing of time by a gravitational mass associated with normal equivalence; this solution accelerates time. When defects or cavities occur in a conductive mass meeting Casimir geometry the opposition to time flow is reversed, the cavity is comparable to a small whole in a large sail that releases the pressure accumulated by the plates into an accelerated stream many times faster than the isotropic rate outside the cavity. The accelerated stream inside the Casimir cavity relative to the spatial axis places any matter inside the cavity into a different inertial frame relative to matter outside the cavity through equivalence. Applying Naudts interpretation to Casimir effect reveals that larger virtual particles are not displaced instead the virtual particles are in a different inertial frame and only appear smaller like the fractional hydrogen this theory is based on. The theory dictates a moving time stream like [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory]Lorentz Ether theory[/url] which is presently less preferred than Special relativity but equally valid mathematically. The conclusion extends Lorentz Ether theory to an ether with a variable rate based on mass and Casimir effect. [url=http://www.byzipp.com/scenic2.swf]see animation[/url], It means that Time is only isotropic at the mesoscopic scale and can be broken abruptly inside a Casimir cavity. There is growing reason to consider that Casimir force is based on the same principle as the strong nuclear force. The Puthoff atomic model is kept from decaying by this etheric motion and Tesla's conjecture that the sun consumes more energy than it generates also appears supported by this concept. IMHO time is a stream of ether that manifests itself as virtual particles when it intersects the spatial axis in the present. These virtual particles permeate all atomic and subatomic matter, driving both orbital motion and the stiction we call the strong force in the nucleus. From Wikipedia: Lorentz's initial theory created in 1892 and 1895 was based on a completely motionless ether. It explained the failure of the negative ether drift experiments to first order in v/c by introducing a auxiliary variable called local time for connecting systems at rest and in motion in the ether. In addition, the negative result of the Michelson-Morley experiment led to the introduction of the hypothesis of length contraction in 1892. However, other experiments also produced negative results and so Lorentz was forced in 1899 and 1904 to expand his theory to (nearly) all orders in v/c by introducing the Lorentz transformation, and to assume the electromagnetic nature of all forces. Guided by the principle of relativity the theory (The New Mechanics) was further developed in 1905 by Henri Poincaré, and also by Lorentz in 1909. Poincaré corrected some mistakes of Lorentz's theory, and maintained that also non-electromagnetic forces had to be taken into account. Many aspects of Lorentz's theory were incorporated into special relativity (SR) with the works of Albert Einstein and Hermann Minkowski. Today LET is often treated as some sort of Lorentzian or neo-Lorentzian interpretation of special relativity. The introduction of length contraction and time dilation for all phenomena in a preferred frame of reference (which plays the role of Lorentz's immobile ether), leads to the complete Lorentz transformation. Because of the same mathematical formalism it is not possible to distinguish between LET and SR by experiment. However, in LET the existence of an undetectable ether is assumed and the validity of the relativity principle seems to be only coincidental, which is one reason why SR is commonly preferred over LET. Another important reason for preferring SR is that the new understanding of space and time was also fundamental for the development of general relativity.
[Vo]:RE: Smoke ring variables and the ring of ringlets
I was wondering if all the little rings persisted. I also wondered what would happen if both rigns were emitted from the same side but took different paths so that one ring could come up behind the other ring. Scott _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/
[Vo]:Let's Test the Relativistic Cavity Concept
Hey Guys! (This could really be significant. I smell a Nobel Prize cooking here!!!) If this relativistic cavity thing is true, then the nuclear reactions will be accelerated! This opens up the Cold-Fusion thing, the Z-PEC concept, not to mention, this experiment might release significant amounts of nuclear heat--expecially if we used Kr 85 instead of Kr 81. Let's pin this thing down and figure out how we can do the experiment where slightly radioactive Kr 81 gas is exposed to a powdered Raney Nickel that has been activated---in other words, it has lots of little cavities in the remaining spongey Nickel. Surely, somebody out there has access to a lab---or has a business that is in an industrially zoned area that could receive shipments of these material since they won't ship to non-industrially zoned areas or non-commercial addresses. Perhaps somebody else will pay--probably 50-100USD. Maybe someone else knows a business that handles commercial gases or actually uses Kr81 (or Kr85) We need to come up with a geiger-counter. If you see how we can do any part of this please speak up! Scott Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:55:29 -0500 From: francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Casimir effect, Time and Lorentzian Ether Theory Numerous claims of anomalous heat between atomic hydrogen and catalysts supports the [url=http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0507193v2]“relativistic” hydrogen theory of Jan Naudts[/url]. Naudts theory resolved the controversy regarding fractional hydrogen but introduced “relativistic” hydrogen inside a stationary reactor! This is not hydrogen accelerated through space to luminal velocities; this concept requires “equivalent motion” between time and space but unlike the slowing of time by a gravitational mass associated with normal equivalence; this solution accelerates time. When defects or cavities occur in a conductive mass meeting Casimir geometry the opposition to time flow is reversed, the cavity is comparable to a small whole in a large sail that releases the pressure accumulated by the “plates” into an “accelerated” stream many times faster than the isotropic rate outside the cavity. The accelerated stream inside the Casimir cavity relative to the spatial axis places any matter inside the cavity into a different inertial frame relative to matter outside the cavity through “equivalence”. Applying Naudts interpretation to Casimir effect reveals that larger virtual particles are not “displaced” instead the virtual particles are in a different inertial frame and only appear smaller like the fractional hydrogen this theory is based on. The theory dictates a moving time stream like [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory]Lorentz Ether theory[/url] which is presently less preferred than Special relativity but equally valid mathematically. The conclusion extends Lorentz Ether theory to an ether with a “variable” rate based on mass and Casimir effect. [url=http://www.byzipp.com/scenic2.swf]see animation[/url], It means that Time is only isotropic at the mesoscopic scale and can be broken abruptly inside a Casimir cavity. There is growing reason to consider that Casimir force is based on the same principle as the strong nuclear force. The Puthoff atomic model is kept from decaying by this “etheric motion” and Tesla’s conjecture that the sun consumes more energy than it generates also appears supported by this concept. IMHO time is a stream of ether that manifests itself as virtual particles when it intersects the spatial axis in the “present”. These virtual particles permeate all atomic and subatomic matter, driving both orbital motion and the stiction we call the strong force in the nucleus. From Wikipedia: Lorentz's initial theory created in 1892 and 1895 was based on a completely motionless ether. It explained the failure of the negative ether drift experiments to first order in v/c by introducing a auxiliary variable called local time for connecting systems at rest and in motion in the ether. In addition, the negative result of the Michelson-Morley experiment led to the introduction of the hypothesis of length contraction in 1892. However, other experiments also produced negative results and so Lorentz was forced in 1899 and 1904 to expand his theory to (nearly) all orders in v/c by introducing the Lorentz transformation, and to assume the electromagnetic nature of all forces. Guided by the principle of relativity the theory (The New Mechanics) was further developed in 1905 by Henri Poincaré, and also by Lorentz in 1909. Poincaré corrected some mistakes of Lorentz's theory, and maintained that also non-electromagnetic forces had to be taken into account. Many aspects of Lorentz's theory were incorporated into special relativity (SR) with the works of Albert Einstein and Hermann Minkowski. Today LET is often treated as some sort of Lorentzian or
Re: [Vo]:Storms Theory Explains All Known Cold Fusion Phenomena
Storms responds, Krivit responds: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/?p=126#comment-7388
Re: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
That's a splendid little video, and an elegant demonstration of spin conservation. I urge people to see it. The air particles and spin both rotate 90 degrees as a result of the collision. Fascinating! It would be interesting to see how this works in a low pressure cell, close to vacuum. I wonder if it would resemble the computer simulations of colliding galaxies, in which the stars fly out in all directions, presumably because individual particle interactions (particles being stars in this case) predominate. Not at all like the ordered behavior of the air molecules in this video. Maybe the disordered effect I am thinking of could only be achieved with a noble gas at low pressure. - Jed
[Vo]:Sci. Am. bats plasma fusion
I have the print edition. I don't know why I keep giving these jerks my money . . . Anyway, see: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fusions-false-dawn Fusion's False Dawn ( Preview ) Scientists have long dreamed of harnessing nuclear fusion—the power plant of the stars—for a safe, clean and virtually unlimited energy supply. Even as a historic milestone nears, skeptics question whether a working reactor will ever be possible. The only mention of CF is a plug for Seife's book. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
From: Jed Rothwell * That's a splendid little video, and an elegant demonstration of spin conservation. I urge people to see it. . if it is authentic, it is splendid indeed. * The air particles and spin both rotate 90 degrees as a result of the collision. Fascinating! . that is the part that almost looks too contrived to me - to be accepted as true without a thorough investigation (at least to my thinking). There simply does not seem to be enough momentum in the initial colliding tori to carry forward and retain the spin structure for that kind of orthogonal change and transfer. It would be relatively easy to fake with computer graphics, if someone were so inclined . but I hate to even mention that possibility, since there is absolutely no apparent reason to believe that deception was involved - other than there are plenty of geeks who would delight in the challenge. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
better quality video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJk8ijAUCiI harry From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:13:00 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions That's a splendid little video, and an elegant demonstration of spin conservation. I urge people to see it. The air particles and spin both rotate 90 degrees as a result of the collision. Fascinating! It would be interesting to see how this works in a low pressure cell, close to vacuum. I wonder if it would resemble the computer simulations of colliding galaxies, in which the stars fly out in all directions, presumably because individual particle interactions (particles being stars in this case) predominate. Not at all like the ordered behavior of the air molecules in this video. Maybe the disordered effect I am thinking of could only be achieved with a noble gas at low pressure. - Jed __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Storms’ Theory “Explains All Known Cold Fusion Phenomena”
On 02/22/2010 04:56 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/ The article begins: According to an Oct. 5, 2009, press release on the Lyndon LaRouche Political Action Committee Web site, Say ... what??
Re: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
On 02/22/2010 08:38 PM, Jones Beene wrote: *From:* Jed Rothwell Ø That's a splendid little video, and an elegant demonstration of spin conservation. I urge people to see it. … if it is authentic, it is splendid indeed. It looks authentic enough -- but it's *NOT* smoke rings. It's dye in water. It doesn't move like smoke in air; it moves like dye in water. It seems obvious that's liquid, not gas, we're seeing in these videos. The YouTube post doesn't say what it's in; it's only the low res copy which was asserted to be smoke rings, but that assertion obviously didn't come from the original author of the video. Ø The air particles and spin both rotate 90 degrees as a result of the collision. Fascinating! … that is the part that “almost” looks too contrived to me – to be accepted as true without a thorough investigation (at least to my thinking). There simply does not seem to be enough momentum in the initial colliding tori to carry forward and retain the spin structure for that kind of orthogonal change and transfer. It would be relatively easy to fake with computer graphics, if someone were so inclined … but I hate to even mention that possibility, since there is absolutely no apparent reason to believe that deception was involved – other than there are plenty of geeks who would delight in the challenge. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
http://serve.me.nus.edu.sg/limtt/ the creators FLUID MECHANICS GROUP DEPARTMENT OF MECHANICAL ENGINEERING National University of Singapore On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Jed Rothwell Ø That's a splendid little video, and an elegant demonstration of spin conservation. I urge people to see it. … if it is authentic, it is splendid indeed. Ø The air particles and spin both rotate 90 degrees as a result of the collision. Fascinating! … that is the part that “almost” looks too contrived to me – to be accepted as true without a thorough investigation (at least to my thinking). There simply does not seem to be enough momentum in the initial colliding tori to carry forward and retain the spin structure for that kind of orthogonal change and transfer. It would be relatively easy to fake with computer graphics, if someone were so inclined … but I hate to even mention that possibility, since there is absolutely no apparent reason to believe that deception was involved – other than there are plenty of geeks who would delight in the challenge. Jones
RE: [Vo]:Smoke ring collisions
-Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence It looks authentic enough -- but it's *NOT* smoke rings... It's dye in water. That is more likely, but unless the speed has been altered, water viscosity would likely not permit that kind of apparent speed. I suspect that if it is not smoke but instead is a liquid setup - then the best candidate for the clear liquid is not water but ether. Diethyl ether, also known as ether, is colorless and only slightly soluble in water so that could account for some of the unusual visual mixing phenomena that happens - if the two are being mixed: i.e. the tori are water-based but the clear liquid is ether. Jones
[Vo]:Extraordinary Error -- no electric field exists inside a conducting liquid in an insulated box with two external charged metal plates, re work by SPAWAR on cold fusion since 2002 -- also hot spot
Extraordinary Error -- no electric field exists inside a conducting liquid in an insulated box with two external charged metal plates, re work by SPAWAR on cold fusion since 2002 -- also hot spots from H and O microbubbles: Rich Murray 2010.02.22 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.htm Monday, February 22, 2010 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/42 _ Each charged plate attracts enough ions of the opposite charge right to the side of the conducting electrolyte against its insulating wall, until the charge on the plate is exactly balanced -- thus each side is a separate charged capacitor, connected by the wire of the liquid. All the electric field exists only in the insulating walls of the two capacitors -- no electric field exists inside the liquid. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax, a brilliant amateur on Vortex-L cold fusion group, made me aware of all the activity re the SPAWAR claims, at noon Monday, January 4, and the next day from 10 AM to 1 PM at SF Community College library, I explored the complex results and issues reported by Ludwik Kowalski: http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/ http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/370spawar.html 370) What is going on? 11 pages Ludwik Kowalski Montclair State University, New Jersey, USA June 11, 2009 http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/379spawar2.pdf his journal rejected paper I notice that the clear plastic cell with its clear electrolyte and contrasting dark metal external plates with the hazardous high voltage of 6,000 volts comprise a riviting archtypal image, not easy to relate to ideas I grasped in 1960 in freshman physics at MIT. Perhaps personal experience is involved, living in the high dry climate of Santa Fe, where, as a senior ambulatory electrolyte, shuffling barefoot across the carpet, I often get shocked touching the radiator. Since Scott and Melissa Little, familiar with most cold fusion research, had not thought of this, and since I found no clear evidence that anyone else had publicly discussed it, I wanted to render service for mutual benefit, by explaining the error in ways clear to all, and noting some of the history of this error by the earnest, competent, and high minded SPAWAR team. It is hard to believe that none of the equally skilled hundreds of experts involved in almost eight years have not noticed. Surely the same error has occurred times in research in recent centuries. In my case, the counterintuitive insight into the error took a few hours to arise in my mind. About 4 PM, I called Hal Puthoff and then Marissa Little at Earthtech International in Austin, Texas, airing the idea. They hadn't heard about it, and were receptive. I had cooperated as a volunteer amateur consultant with Scott Little on fair critical reviews of many cold fusion studies from December, 1996 to July, 1998. In fact, that morning she had received a copy of Journal of Scientific Exploration with their 3 page review, Cold Fusion: Fact or Fantasy?, stating, We have never seen a successful cold fusion experiment., and also Extraordinary Evidence Replication Effort, a 7 page version of their lengthly website report on 28 replication attempts, concluding, Our results do not provide a positive identification of the origin of SPAWAR pits. However, they do show that chemical origin is a distinct possibility and therefore that nuclear origin is not a certainty. http://www.earthtech.org/CR39/index.html They describe 28 experiments -- the last two, 9 and 18, are not in their JSE review -- no Experiment 17 was listed on the website: Nickel Cathode Pam Boss reported (during the March 2007 APS meeting) that a nickel cathode in the absence of an external electromagnetic field would not produce SPAWAR pits. However, we observed moderate densities of SPAWAR pits when using this arrangement. We also performed an experiment with a Ni fibrex cathode and no Pd in the electrolyte (or any other plating metal). The nickel fibrex was intended to mimic the dendritic palladium. This test did not produce SPAWAR pits. Experiment - Protocol - Electrolyte - Cathode - SPAWAR pits? 9 -- TGP - TGP --- Ni wire -- yes 18 - B2IP - light water and LiCL -- Ni fibrex -- no [ TGP: The Galileo Project protocol for independent replications ] [ Selected items from their report's beginning ] Magnetic Effect The first version of the protocol we received for the TGP specified magnets on the active cell and no magnets on the control cell. The magnets are 2.5 cm square by 0.635 cm thick NdFeB magnets placed on the outside of the cell on the sides closest to the electrodes. It was reported in Extraordinary Evidence that an external field was necessary to create the SPAWAR pits. It can be seen from our initial replication effort that we did not observe any difference with the use of magnets. This observation was later confirmed by Pam Boss and the TGP protocol was changed
