Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator
- Original Message From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 12:25:58 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Are we watching the same video? ;-) Did you not see my correction?? the part about rms voltage and current? harry __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Vo]:OT: Science of motivation
This is not one of those motivational talks. Harry Career analyst Dan Pink examines the puzzle of motivation, starting with a fact that social scientists know but most managers don't: Traditional rewards aren't always as effective as we think. Listen for illuminating stories -- and maybe, a way forward. http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_motivation.html __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator
On Feb 25, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 12:25:58 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Are we watching the same video? ;-) Did you not see my correction?? the part about rms voltage and current? harry That's right. It's the same old issue we've seen over and over again, and discussed here ad nauseam. The I*V is not a measure of power when there are phase angles, transient demand, varying frequencies, or square waves involved. It takes a fast integrating power meter to measure input power. This applies to battery DC input to a device with these kinds of power demands as well. Another issue is there is no apparent measurement of power output. As we have seen before, driving LEDs with transients can cause the perception of an amount of light that requiring more power than actually used. It appears the power produced is a small proportion of the power applied. Lastly, as we all know, if there is a claim of significant overunity, then the loop has to be closed for the claim to be credible. I see no reason to think the device is not a transformer that works by displacing a high mu material field. This is not a new idea. There are commercially produced power supply transformers that work on this principle. They are not overunity. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:OT: Science of motivation
From Harry: Career analyst Dan Pink examines the puzzle of motivation, starting with a fact that social scientists know but most managers don't: Traditional rewards aren't always as effective as we think. Listen for illuminating stories -- and maybe, a way forward. http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_motivation.html Thanks Harry, One of many hats I wear at my place of employment involves software development. Dan Pink hit it on the nail. While the concept of Fed Ex time might terrify many managers they would do well to let it be. Besides, they can later claim the fruits of Fed Ex dabbling as actually having been one of their own novel ideas - and subsequently collect a nice bonus at the end of the year. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:The 10th Meeting of Japan CF-Research Society (JCF10) March 5-6, 2010
The 10th Meeting of Japan CF-Research Society (JCF10) will be held on March 5-6, 2010 at Hachioji, Tokyo in Japan. The program and abstracts are available from the below links and they are written in English. http://dragon.elc.iwate-u.ac.jp/jcf/JCF10/jcf10-program.pdf http://dragon.elc.iwate-u.ac.jp/jcf/JCF10/jcf10-abstracts.pdf The event is noticed by the below page in Japanese. http://dragon.elc.iwate-u.ac.jp/jcf/NEW.HTML --- Toshiro Sengaku
Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator
- Original Message From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 8:52:29 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator On Feb 25, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message From: Horace Heffner To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 12:25:58 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Are we watching the same video? ;-) Did you not see my correction?? the part about rms voltage and current? harry That's right. It's the same old issue we've seen over and over again, and discussed here ad nauseam. The I*V is not a measure of power when there are phase angles, transient demand, varying frequencies, or square waves involved. It takes a fast integrating power meter to measure input power. This applies to battery DC input to a device with these kinds of power demands as well. The controller is powered by DC. He measures voltage and current going into into the controller. The controller converts this to electrical pulses which feed the toroidal coil, so don't these measurements give you an upper bound on the input power? Another issue is there is no apparent measurement of power output. As we have seen before, driving LEDs with transients can cause the perception of an amount of light that requiring more power than actually used. It appears the power produced is a small proportion of the power applied. I sent him an email asking for the wattage of the LEDs. Lastly, as we all know, if there is a claim of significant overunity, then the loop has to be closed for the claim to be credible. I see no reason to think the device is not a transformer that works by displacing a high mu material field. This is not a new idea. There are commercially produced power supply transformers that work on this principle. They are not overunity. Probably not... Harry __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved generator
On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: The controller is powered by DC. He measures voltage and current going into into the controller. The controller converts this to electrical pulses which feed the toroidal coil, so don't these measurements give you an upper bound on the input power? No. THey give a lower bound. Another issue is there is no apparent measurement of power output. As we have seen before, driving LEDs with transients can cause the perception of an amount of light that requiring more power than actually used. It appears the power produced is a small proportion of the power applied. I sent him an email asking for the wattage of the LEDs. Lastly, as we all know, if there is a claim of significant overunity, then the loop has to be closed for the claim to be credible. I see no reason to think the device is not a transformer that works by displacing a high mu material field. This is not a new idea. There are commercially produced power supply transformers that work on this principle. They are not overunity. Probably not... Definitely not. Their performance was measured in the high 90's percent range if I recall. They were similar to the Fig. 1 drawing I sent, except they had 8 (or more) legs instead of two. This kept the permanent magnet flux more constant and permitted an 8 (or more) phase output which was rectified to make DC. They were used in electronics power supplies. That's all I remember. I wouldn't know how to find them without doing a patent search, which is how I originally found them in the first place, I think. It was years ago. Harry Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
