----- Original Message ----
> From: Horace Heffner <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 8:52:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved "generator"
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Horace Heffner
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 12:25:58 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's improved "generator"
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>>
> >>> Are we watching the same video? ;-)
> >>
> >> Did you not see my correction??
> >
> > the part about rms voltage and current?
> >
> > harry
>
>
> That's right. It's the same old issue we've seen over and over again, and
> discussed here ad nauseam. The I*V is not a measure of power when there are
> phase angles, transient demand, varying frequencies, or square waves
> involved.
> It takes a fast integrating power meter to measure input power. This applies
> to
> battery DC input to a device with these kinds of power demands as well.
The controller is powered by DC. He measures voltage and current going
into into the controller. The controller converts this to electrical
pulses which feed the toroidal coil, so don't these measurements give you an
upper bound on the input power?
> Another issue is there is no apparent measurement of power output. As we have
> seen before, driving LEDs with transients can cause the perception of an
> amount
> of light that requiring more power than actually used. It appears the power
> produced is a small proportion of the power applied.
I sent him an email asking for the wattage of the LEDs.
> Lastly, as we all know, if there is a claim of significant overunity, then
> the
> loop has to be closed for the claim to be credible.
>
> I see no reason to think the device is not a transformer that works by
> displacing a high mu material field. This is not a new idea. There are
> commercially produced power supply transformers that work on this principle.
> They are not overunity.
Probably not...
Harry
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