Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites
@Chuck: Thanks for confirming the bending of the coin. @all: I am interested, not to replicated this experiment in the first place, but because I observe 2 things: 1) Bending a constantaan coin will cause cracks in the metal lattice. 2) Using borax, there is a fair chance that this will create a transparant layer on the coin. A patent of Celani , published in Feb 2011 describes a process to enhance Hydrogen absorbtion of nickel nano structures by performing 2 steps: a) oxidize the surface of nickel, b) dip it in a silicate solution and bake it. The silicate layer seems similar to the borax layer you might get on the coin in the 'Chuck experiment'. I've looked into the manufacturing of 'ordinary' Nickel nano powders. This is mostly done via an electrochemical process, causing good crystal structures in the metal lattices of the nano particles. Earlier last week, Rossi expressed that his catalyst is not a chemical one'. This suggests to me that the pre-processing of the nickel power could be something else: crunching it, to break the lattice structures in the particles. It's just a thought, no scientific arguments, I know. Link to the Celani patent: http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2011016014recNum=221docAn=IB2010053585queryString=(ET/nano)%20maxRec=1293 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: I have been seeking a constant current through the nickel versus a constant power into the system since the resistance of the electrolyte is dominate. High resistivity is not necessarily an issue, per se. In the Pd/D electrolysis experiments, as the palladium is loaded with deuterium, the resistivity goes up. Often the target loading is 0.95 or higher, so it seems likely that there is a lot of resistivity in a good run in such experiments. I think a common belief is that it is the *flux* of deuterium that is important in those experiments; whether the deuterium is entering the substrate or leaving it does not matter. Assuming a parallel can be drawn with Ni/H electrolysis, an AC current might not be undesirable in itself, unless it somehow messes up some other important variable. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites
Some additional finding on silicate layers: Miles found that the formation of silicate latyer in the PF experiments was occuring and possibly essencial to get the effect. Details: The silicates on palladium cathodes is mentioned in the interview with Miles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZM2z_fVcEfeature=player_embedded#http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dj7ZM2z_fVcE%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded%23urlhash=25T5_t=tracking_disc ! (@ around 13:45 min timestamp) On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: @Chuck: Thanks for confirming the bending of the coin. @all: I am interested, not to replicated this experiment in the first place, but because I observe 2 things: 1) Bending a constantaan coin will cause cracks in the metal lattice. 2) Using borax, there is a fair chance that this will create a transparant layer on the coin. A patent of Celani , published in Feb 2011 describes a process to enhance Hydrogen absorbtion of nickel nano structures by performing 2 steps: a) oxidize the surface of nickel, b) dip it in a silicate solution and bake it. The silicate layer seems similar to the borax layer you might get on the coin in the 'Chuck experiment'. I've looked into the manufacturing of 'ordinary' Nickel nano powders. This is mostly done via an electrochemical process, causing good crystal structures in the metal lattices of the nano particles. Earlier last week, Rossi expressed that his catalyst is not a chemical one'. This suggests to me that the pre-processing of the nickel power could be something else: crunching it, to break the lattice structures in the particles. It's just a thought, no scientific arguments, I know. Link to the Celani patent: http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2011016014recNum=221docAn=IB2010053585queryString=(ET/nano)%20maxRec=1293 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: I have been seeking a constant current through the nickel versus a constant power into the system since the resistance of the electrolyte is dominate. High resistivity is not necessarily an issue, per se. In the Pd/D electrolysis experiments, as the palladium is loaded with deuterium, the resistivity goes up. Often the target loading is 0.95 or higher, so it seems likely that there is a lot of resistivity in a good run in such experiments. I think a common belief is that it is the *flux* of deuterium that is important in those experiments; whether the deuterium is entering the substrate or leaving it does not matter. Assuming a parallel can be drawn with Ni/H electrolysis, an AC current might not be undesirable in itself, unless it somehow messes up some other important variable. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites
To clearify my observations further: 1) room temperature experiments seem to require an additional trick to get sufficient Hydrogen absorbtion: the use of an additional (transparant) layer 2) Rossi might not need to have the additional layer since he is operating his nickel at a condition where Hydrogen absorbstion is significantly higher than room temperature and in addition higher pressures. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: Some additional finding on silicate layers: Miles found that the formation of silicate latyer in the PF experiments was occuring and possibly essencial to get the effect. Details: The silicates on palladium cathodes is mentioned in the interview with Miles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZM2z_fVcEfeature=player_embedded#http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dj7ZM2z_fVcE%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded%23urlhash=25T5_t=tracking_disc ! (@ around 13:45 min timestamp) On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote: @Chuck: Thanks for confirming the bending of the coin. @all: I am interested, not to replicated this experiment in the first place, but because I observe 2 things: 1) Bending a constantaan coin will cause cracks in the metal lattice. 2) Using borax, there is a fair chance that this will create a transparant layer on the coin. A patent of Celani , published in Feb 2011 describes a process to enhance Hydrogen absorbtion of nickel nano structures by performing 2 steps: a) oxidize the surface of nickel, b) dip it in a silicate solution and bake it. The silicate layer seems similar to the borax layer you might get on the coin in the 'Chuck experiment'. I've looked into the manufacturing of 'ordinary' Nickel nano powders. This is mostly done via an electrochemical process, causing good crystal structures in the metal lattices of the nano particles. Earlier last week, Rossi expressed that his catalyst is not a chemical one'. This suggests to me that the pre-processing of the nickel power could be something else: crunching it, to break the lattice structures in the particles. It's just a thought, no scientific arguments, I know. Link to the Celani patent: http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2011016014recNum=221docAn=IB2010053585queryString=(ET/nano)%20maxRec=1293 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote: I have been seeking a constant current through the nickel versus a constant power into the system since the resistance of the electrolyte is dominate. High resistivity is not necessarily an issue, per se. In the Pd/D electrolysis experiments, as the palladium is loaded with deuterium, the resistivity goes up. Often the target loading is 0.95 or higher, so it seems likely that there is a lot of resistivity in a good run in such experiments. I think a common belief is that it is the *flux* of deuterium that is important in those experiments; whether the deuterium is entering the substrate or leaving it does not matter. Assuming a parallel can be drawn with Ni/H electrolysis, an AC current might not be undesirable in itself, unless it somehow messes up some other important variable. Eric
[Vo]:The Human Fauna
And how important it is to health: http://goo.gl/HAC8c
Re: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
The latest issue of scientific American has an article about food allergies in children. Apparently, if you gradually introduce tiny amounts of the foods they are allergic to, in most cases the allergies subside. The amounts used at first are similar to those used in homeopathy. Years ago, studies were done in Switzerland of children raised on farms versus children from urban areas. Apparently, in Swiss farms, people come in close contact with livestock. Researchers expected to find the children raised on farms would be allergic to animal hairs. They found just the opposite: urban people never exposed to hair were most likely to be allergic to it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
Same effect with moist poisons. The solution to pollution is dilution. Best kids get dirty and cooties when they are young to build resistance. On Tuesday, September 25, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: The latest issue of scientific American has an article about food allergies in children. Apparently, if you gradually introduce tiny amounts of the foods they are allergic to, in most cases the allergies subside. The amounts used at first are similar to those used in homeopathy. Years ago, studies were done in Switzerland of children raised on farms versus children from urban areas. Apparently, in Swiss farms, people come in close contact with livestock. Researchers expected to find the children raised on farms would be allergic to animal hairs. They found just the opposite: urban people never exposed to hair were most likely to be allergic to it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
This desensibilisation (french term) was commonly used in the 70s in France, but was slowly forbidden because of few accident and anglo-saxon consensus against. the does are far more than homeopathy, just like classic immunization dose to trigger immune system, but very lightly, unlike immunization which want to activate it violently simulating real infection with adjuvant (that activate the native immune system). you increase the dose, until the immune system no more care. My sister was cured that way (or it simply disappear naturally like in most case... dunno- that doubt was part of the accusation of being ineffectivie). It is a well know fact for long time that allergy are not caused mostly by chemical product, but by hygiene (which have other advantages), but that old idea is rejected like hormesis, because fighting against cleanness principles. Todays theory that I read many times is that the immune system have two stable state, one efficient against bacteria, and another against parasites. If we are not enough infected with bacteria, we prepare to fight agains parasites, and it can cause allergy (interpreting foreign proteins as from parasites). Note that natural product, because much more complex (arachid/peanut show thousands of different epitope. there is thousands of various allergy against peanut) the natural products cause more allergy. however modern preparation (roasting, pollution, chemical alteration) make the existing natural products even more complex, thus allergenic. Also modern life make us exposed to many more natural exotic products. Basically it seems that country where people eat much cheese from raw milk (the one that is forbidden in US, and nearly was forbidden in EU), have less digestive infection, and allergy, than pasteurized countries. Another factor about raw milk cheese (and other similar fermented products) is that it is an ecosystem that resist to contamination by aggressive germs. The problems is that if it is badly fermented (dirty manipulations), in rare cases the cheese is a very aggressive ecosystem... intermediate situation are nearly impossible. People also have to adapt to those ecosystem... the Turista effect. note that the Listeria infection is mostly caused by warm fridge (12C)... warm temperature kills the listeria (by competition from other species). 2012/9/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com The latest issue of scientific American has an article about food allergies in children. Apparently, if you gradually introduce tiny amounts of the foods they are allergic to, in most cases the allergies subside. The amounts used at first are similar to those used in homeopathy. Years ago, studies were done in Switzerland of children raised on farms versus children from urban areas. Apparently, in Swiss farms, people come in close contact with livestock. Researchers expected to find the children raised on farms would be allergic to animal hairs. They found just the opposite: urban people never exposed to hair were most likely to be allergic to it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Same effect with moist poisons. The solution to pollution is dilution. Best kids get dirty and cooties when they are young to build resistance. My grandson's allergist recommended unfiltered local honey to mediate his hay fever.
RE: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
I've been following Dr. Marshall's research for a few years now and I think he's a pioneer in understanding just how microbes affect our health, and are likely the cause for chronic conditions... and a treatment protocol. http://www.trevormarshall.com/ He presents some clinical results here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rFmAMDdbjs for multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, rheumatoid arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis. Autoimmune Research Foundation http://autoimmunityresearch.org/ -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:The Human Fauna And how important it is to health: http://goo.gl/HAC8c
Re: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
More generally, there is some evidence that if you just give the immune system something external to worry about, autoimmune activity may subside. Warning, link describes a therapeutic approach you may find gross. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy Jeff On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:48 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: I've been following Dr. Marshall's research for a few years now and I think he's a pioneer in understanding just how microbes affect our health, and are likely the cause for chronic conditions... and a treatment protocol. http://www.trevormarshall.com/ He presents some clinical results here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rFmAMDdbjs for multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, rheumatoid arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis. Autoimmune Research Foundation http://autoimmunityresearch.org/ -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:The Human Fauna And how important it is to health: http://goo.gl/HAC8c
[Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
From: Jed Rothwell I would love to see the best available chart of heat-after-death, showing the thermal curve for a substantial time frame after electrical power has been cut. Here are two: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/PonsSheatafterd.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DardikIultrasonic.pdf The heat release is not sudden in either case. The last (Energetics) paper has been overlooked to a large extent on the various forums. But it is mystery why anyone (who is interested in ultrasonic nuclear reactions) would give the secretive LeClair the slightest consideration, when this open and impressive information is out there. Very high COP seems possible. BTW - heat release (after death) in the Pons paper is not sudden and does not look like there could be a contribution from phase-transition. However, the Dardik paper shows exactly the kind of see-saw effect which one might expect from sequential phase transitions - operating to cause secondary fusions, after power cut-off (fig 7,8 and 9). Of course, Dardik's entire paper shows these kinds of temporal thermal pulsations (possibly expected from ultrasound). There is no indication of self-power, indicating that ultrasound is always required to be on, but plenty of indication of slow cool-off - which is a different thing. Figure 9 represents exactly how one would expect recalescence-reactivated-fusion to look like, after power turn off... which is continuing spiky bursts of heat, tapering off gradually. The most troubling thing about this paper, given the very high gain and fabulous COP - is here we are 4 years later and there is not much indication (public at least) of the kind of progress one would hope for, with this as the start. The group is aligned with Duncan, in Missouri - and so on, but is there more to the story? Many do not trust Dardik's MD problems - but so what? Maybe in the USA, there is bureaucratic intransigence in our DoE or DoD making them too slow and bloated to move rapidly with something so promising... (as what Energetics seemed to be showing 4 years ago) but given the Israeli connections of the Dardik group - and the greater need for an energy breakthrough over there, and the rapid advances that Israel often demonstrates in other fields (reverse-engineering of advanced weaponry, in particular) ... one has to ask: did the Israeli military manage to take a version of this program black, in the sense of turning it into a secret program? Hmm... A look at Google satellite's view of Energetic's (former?) facilities in Omer shows a both potentially a large facility (but - there could be many unrelated tenants there), and also, the added blurriness one sees in a few top-secret places, courtesy of google - indicating someone wants it to stay fuzzy... which could be part of a cash-flow strategy. Jones attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
what you describe for poisons (like arsenic) is hormesis, but not desensibilisation nor homeopathy. the basic of hormesis is to activate the heat shock proteins so the body can fight against some class of genotoxic aggression... work for some poisons, radiation, sun, heat... Those HSP production can also cause some memory, through epigenetic modification, or simply though growth and selection. he basic of desensibilisation is to activate the immune system at low intensity, for long time, with increasing dose, without the usual co-factors of infection (that are simulated by adjuvant in immunization), so that the immune system activate the tolerance mode used for self and for usual benign antigen. That tolerance mode in fact activate killing/suicide/suppression of the lymphocyte that react to that benign antigene. the basic of immunization is to stimulate strongly the adaptative immune system, in a way that really look like a real aggression (with adjuvant simulating the produce that the native immune system detect), so that the body activate the war-mode, and a population of sensible T4 lymphocyte are created and kept for later fast detection. the basic of homeopathy is to use very very very low dose, and it works differently from those 3 techniques. It normally have no effect on HSP or immune system... 2012/9/25 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com Same effect with moist poisons. The solution to pollution is dilution. Best kids get dirty and cooties when they are young to build resistance. On Tuesday, September 25, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: The latest issue of scientific American has an article about food allergies in children. Apparently, if you gradually introduce tiny amounts of the foods they are allergic to, in most cases the allergies subside. The amounts used at first are similar to those used in homeopathy. Years ago, studies were done in Switzerland of children raised on farms versus children from urban areas. Apparently, in Swiss farms, people come in close contact with livestock. Researchers expected to find the children raised on farms would be allergic to animal hairs. They found just the opposite: urban people never exposed to hair were most likely to be allergic to it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Maybe in the USA, there is bureaucratic intransigence in our DoE or DoD making them too slow and bloated to move rapidly with something so promising... I would be careful underestimating the military, especially the navy, considering their considerable thirst: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120924111824.htm Then again, if they have Rossi, why would they need to make their own hydrocarbons?
Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication
BUT... we do not currently possess the highly advanced technical ablity to enable us to alter the direction of our illfated future, whereas, the only humans there are, as conveyed in several documentaries that interviewed a one Travis Walton, that told of his encounter with an Advanced Civilization's Craft back in 1975 (?) as he a crew of gov contracted brush cutters were returning home one night on a Mountain road in outside of the sleep litle town of Snowflake, AZ. Mind you, the crew all saw T.W. get TKO'd by the craft that was just hovering over him he should have stayed in his vehicle, like the rest of his kind that tend to be easily frightened and/or unmotivated to explore the unknown, and/or content in doing only what they are capable of. Yeah well, anyway, I'd say that, if you think this incident was 'only' a hoax or scam, for money or recognition, I'd say guess again because this incident not only had more than likely occured, but it speaks volumes of what I think many ground dwelling human beings need to *know* about their future... Now, T.W. thoroughly described in detail his encounter with these highly advanced humanoid/beings, and also spoke of the two human looking individuals that he said would pass in a crowd here on earth These humans were (likely) white (supremesists) that some people down here (after the fact) who 'herd or learned of this incident thought it likely these humans actually were in charge of the operation. It's doubtful however because they were said to be 'muscular looking', and, were also apparently poor communicators, which of course frightened T.W., Upon determining they were either hostile or unfriendly, he began to panic (as expected) whereupon he was rather quickly subdued, and, the last thing he remembered To me, these humans (in appearance only) are obviously genetically enhanced, and, basically serve as a 'go between' or 'welcoming effect' on ourkind, in encounters that involve us being either apprehended or subdued, as required (and, don't think that the word doesn't get out... and, good luck with that)! You have to rememer the sequence of events that unfolded in this incident, because first, T.W. did not respond-well to the 'beyond' frightening apearance of the highly advanced humanoid-beings, and/or because they did not communicate in any way, he knew he had to get away from them. After fleeing, he soon entered another room or compartment, of which he said he could breath easier because the air was better or more fresh. He also stumbled (?) into some type of 'control room', and began to fool around with the intrumentation, of which he thought he might crash this thing. Now, I won't go into detail about everything I've managed to logically deduce and/or extrapolate from what I would say was a *real life encounter* but rest assure, it's no-less than absolutely stunning, amazing, awe-inspiring, highly motivational ... and that's only the beginning! Loren Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication LORENHEYER Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:38:07 -0700 Maybe in 10 million yrs this civilization will have developed the highly sophisticated complex process by which the strong/weak nuclear, electromagnetic, gravitational forces can be altered or manipulated. It will require millions of yrs to develope a 'hole' complete working knowledge of the forces at work around us thruout the universe snip already done ten years ago. http://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/4050 /HTML
RE: [Vo]:The Human Fauna
Here is a more detailed presentation about a specific metabolic pathway (the Vitamin-D Receptor), and how its down-regulation, caused by the incorporation of bacterial DNA into the human DNA, leads to various chronic ailments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2yEwnZy8B8 -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:49 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Human Fauna I've been following Dr. Marshall's research for a few years now and I think he's a pioneer in understanding just how microbes affect our health, and are likely the cause for chronic conditions... and a treatment protocol. http://www.trevormarshall.com/ He presents some clinical results here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rFmAMDdbjs for multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, rheumatoid arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis. Autoimmune Research Foundation http://autoimmunityresearch.org/ -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:The Human Fauna And how important it is to health: http://goo.gl/HAC8c
Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites
Eric, You make a good point. As a selfdeclared (precision) measurement addict , let me comment: 1) Calorimetry, especially with small effects, is a central issue. I do not know a lot about that, but manageble by careful analysis The possible errors even Rossi et al made in high-power contexts with COP1, makes my head scratch. How could this possibly be? 2) Small effects with small (+/- 1watt) systems are difficult to measure,agreed, but manageable with careful measurement techniques. Maybe Rossi put some hope in National Instruments, because this -ahem- measurement thing was all over his head. He is the guy for the big things, not for watching ants doing their walk. But the NI guys do not know a lot about the intricacies of physical effects, which they eventually measure to six points behind the comma, not knowing what they just measured a second ago. NI-management is not a lot of help here also. Those are basically the know-nothings, who see this as a commercial issue. So to call NI to the resuce of Rossi as the competents, is a pledge of a bunch of incompetents in the first place. It is like Apple accusing why Your girlfriend told you she leaves, because she was using an iphone. But it seems we did not yet reach the lowest(highest?) level of delusion. 3) I always wondered, why , as You mention, nobody monitors the development of the resisitivity of the base-reactant --day Ni or Ni-Cu over temperature-time- H-loading, which should vary significantly BEFORE any reaction takes place! Eg constantan, which is 55%Cu 44%Ni, 1%Mn has an extremely well known R-T coefficient. This is a reference. If this changes via H-loading, T, pressure and such, this would be significant! Just have a careful look, and know what You are doing! 4) calorimetrry maybe a difficult issue when small quantities are involved, but not insurmountable. Micro-Kelvins can be measured eg during phase-changes of metals, as I managed to contribute in my professional carreer. So what exactly is the solution to the problem? a) have a good grasp of Your effect b) have a good understanding of how you isolate the effect out of noise and side-effects. Quite basic, right? Guenter Von: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 7:08 Dienstag, 25.September 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have been seeking a constant current through the nickel versus a constant power into the system since the resistance of the electrolyte is dominate. High resistivity is not necessarily an issue, per se. In the Pd/D electrolysis experiments, as the palladium is loaded with deuterium, the resistivity goes up. Often the target loading is 0.95 or higher, so it seems likely that there is a lot of resistivity in a good run in such experiments. I think a common belief is that it is the *flux* of deuterium that is important in those experiments; whether the deuterium is entering the substrate or leaving it does not matter. Assuming a parallel can be drawn with Ni/H electrolysis, an AC current might not be undesirable in itself, unless it somehow messes up some other important variable. Eric
[Vo]:A Hurricane Prediction Based Upon Dark Matter
Theories are useless unless they help us predict. I have gone out on a limb to predict the destination of tropical storm Nadine that has been swirling in the gulf the past couple of weeks. I believe I am correct unless another dark matter particle interacts at some point along her path and wins out. http://wp.me/p26aeb-6D Please pray for me and those in her path or prepare to throw large amounts of egg at my face. Stewart
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: There is no indication of self-power, indicating that ultrasound is always required to be on . . . I believe that is incorrect. It is off, completely, for many hours while the excess heat continues. The complex waveform electrolysis input and ultrasound are both off. They have also done experiments with complex electrolysis only, no ultrasound. When the electrolysis is turned off, the heat continues. They have moved from Israel to U. Missouri. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
I wrote: They have moved from Israel to U. Missouri. Correction. Someone just told me they are back in Israel. That was fast. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
I've been looking through my personal archives. I declared on Wed Apr 22, 2009 02:07pm I'm changing my position from 'maybe' to 'yes'. and came across a Jed quote : Wednesday, March 24, 2010 Chemists taken in by Cold Fusion . . . AGAIN! http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2010/03/chemists-taken-in-by-cold-fusion-again.html?showComment=1269462185011#c6972878308653839828 Repruducibility has gone from 10% to 20% to 100% with some techniques. The NRL recently repeated the Arata experiment several hundred times in a row with automated equipment, completely degassing the samples between runs. It worked every time. So I do not see why you say that nothing has changed. (Got a quick link to the paper? -- too lazy to search !! )
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: The NRL recently repeated the Arata experiment several hundred times in a row with automated equipment, completely degassing the samples between runs. It worked every time. So I do not see why you say that nothing has changed. (Got a quick link to the paper? -- too lazy to search !! ) That was Kidwell et al. at ICCF15. Kidwell insisted it was chemical, especially in the Proceedings paper which came out after I wrote that. I disagreed then, and still do. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KidwellDdoesgasloa.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ViolanteVproceeding.pdf They described a lot more about it at ICCF17. Kidwell finally agrees it is anomalous. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
I found Miles at the 2010 ACS reporting 6/6 (Though for my purposes his $50 calorimeter got the press's attention).
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
At 01:02 PM 9/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: They described a lot more about it at ICCF17. Kidwell finally agrees it is anomalous. Does Kidwell say so in a paper?
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
At 01:55 PM 9/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: They have moved from Israel to U. Missouri. Correction. Someone just told me they are back in Israel. That was fast. Indeed. And expensive, if this is true and total. What happened?
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: They described a lot more about it at ICCF17. Kidwell finally agrees it is anomalous. Does Kidwell say so in a paper? As of a few weeks ago he had not yet turned in a paper for ICCF17. But that is what he and Dawn Dominguez said in their presentations. It was unequivocal. Having David Kidwell to say anything unequivocally positive about cold fusion is the fourth miracle of cold fusion. The three previous miracles, brought to you by Huizenga, pale in comparison. The Coulomb barrier is nothing compared to the Kidwell Attitude Barrier. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Correction. Someone just told me they are back in Israel. That was fast. Indeed. And expensive, if this is true and total. What happened? No idea. I just heard. It is surprising I did not hear it at ICCF17, but I tend to be oblivious to gossip. Or to anything. Kind of like the scene in the movie Catch 22 when Yossarian is talking and paying no attention to airplanes crashing in the background. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
2012/9/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com I wrote: They have moved from Israel to U. Missouri. Correction. Someone just told me they are back in Israel. That was fast. - Jed Maybe they got null results? DAMN! I hope ICCF 17 is not canceled. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:A Hurricane Prediction Based Upon Dark Matter
Okay Stew... You've predicted the destination of Nadine, but why didn't you mention why you named it Nadine? So now, if I were to sound it out, it sounds very similar the word N-e-e-d-i-n-g? so, what is it that is relative importance you're currently in need of ?... is it wind-energy, a large amount of water for drinking, fishing, etc, etc., or maybe a big spin-off tornado or vortex that sucks you in sends you to another place? (tee hee). Theories are useless unless they help us predict. I have gone out on a limb to predict the destination of tropical storm Nadine that has been swirling in the gulf the past couple of weeks. I believe I am correct unless another dark matter particle interacts at some point along her path and wins out. http://wp.me/p26aeb-6D Please pray for me and those in her path or prepare to throw large amounts of egg at my face. Stewart /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Dardik's amazing 2008 paper
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they got null results? DAMN! I hope ICCF 17 is not canceled. You mean you hope ICCF18 is not cancelled. The results are good as far as I know. I do not recall that they presented anything at ICCF17. I do not see anything from Lesin. Lots of other stuff is happening at U. Missouri, in any case. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
At 03:02 PM 9/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher mailto:a...@well.coma...@well.com wrote: The NRL recently repeated the Arata experiment several hundred times in a row with automated equipment, completely degassing the samples between runs. It worked every time. So I do not see why you say that nothing has changed. (Got a quick link to the paper? -- too lazy to search !! ) That was Kidwell et al. at ICCF15. Kidwell insisted it was chemical, especially in the Proceedings paper which came out after I wrote that. I disagreed then, and still do. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KidwellDdoesgasloa.pdfhttp://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KidwellDdoesgasloa.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ViolanteVproceeding.pdf They described a lot more about it at ICCF17. Kidwell finally agrees it is anomalous. Okay, an anomaly. Very important point: anomaly does not equal cold fusion. It means something unexplained. If the level of heat is high, it may indicate a nuclear effect. I don't think that is the case here. The heat is simply unexplained. However, I keep virtually banging my head against the wall. There is very likely a way to know, with certainty, that PdD heat is nuclear in origin. Measure helium. Arata apparently did that, though lots of Arata results seem hard to find. They did not measure helium, though they did many experiments. Helium measurement is tricky, but should have been accessible to them. If they are getting heat such that there should be measurable helium, from anywhere near 24 MeV/He-4, and they *don't* find helium, it would be quite suspicious, given what we know about PdD LENR. It would be a first, quite a remarkable result all on its own. Why was this not done? When I became involved with cold fusion, I found that the full significance of heat/helium seemed to be overlooked, and great confidence and attention was placed on calorimetry alone. I'm not knocking the calorimetry, but one of the important values of helium measurement is that it confirms that the heat is coming from a nuclear source, and it roughly validates the calorimety. As we accumulate experience with helium capture and measurement in these experiments, it could become quite an accurate confirmation.
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
At 03:43 PM 9/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Having David Kidwell to say anything unequivocally positive about cold fusion is the fourth miracle of cold fusion. The three previous miracles, brought to you by Huizenga, pale in comparison. The Coulomb barrier is nothing compared to the Kidwell Attitude Barrier. Maybe it's a miracle, but people with Seriously Bad Attitude about Cold Fusion don't run cold fusion experiments, because they are completely convinced that it's a waste of time. No, it appears that Kidwell is a skeptic, which is not at all a bad thing. He's obviously not a pseudoskeptic. Now, how will pseudoskeptics take Kidwells apparent turnabout? Putting on my pseudoskeptic hat, made of anti-tinfoil (looks exactly like tinfoil, but coming in contact with tinfoil, vanishes in a flash of hot air), I come up with: Kidwell obviously was an idiot, because he was willing to waste his time with this obvious nonsense, there is no credible theory that explains cold fusion, so any sane scientist won't touch it with a ten-foot-pole. We make sure they won't, because their reputations will be deservedly trashed faster than you can say Bockris. Remember Joe Champion? No? Obviously you have fallen under the influence of these fanatic die-hards, like the American Chemical Society, those physics-deprived chemists, and like the editors of Naturwissenschafter, what do the editors of a biology journal know about physics? The U.S. Navy has supported cold fusion research? Yeah, the military also supported research on killing goats by staring at them. Nobel Prize-winners have supported cold fusion research? Obviously, beyond their prime, losing it, dotty in their old age, like Pauling and that Josefson fellow. Did you know he's seriously considered telepathy? Yeah, to even think that cold fusion is possible, you have to have drunk way too much Whacko Kool-Aid. No, this is all a plot to divert seriously needed government funding for hot fusion, which has already produced breakeven once, and, with another trillion dollars of funding, is on track to produce real power by 2050. All this attention to cold fusion is weakening this important project, which employs hundreds of physicists and supports major reputable institutions. Hot fusion is proven technology, it works, and there are only a few technical details to be worked out for commercial applications, and the radioactive waste produced can be easily handled. ... I really wish I was making this up. Most of these arguments I have actually encountered, in one form or another. Mostly, they come from physics grad students, since they now know everything and will soon need a job applying it. They don't know chemistry and materials science, which are the cold fusion fields. Therefore it's bogus. Physics Rules. One little detail: experimental evidence. Feynman. Cargo Cult Science.
Re: [Vo]:A Hurricane Prediction Based Upon Dark Matter
NOAA named it Nadine not me. They are predicting it will turn North anyway. I am not sure if that is the low pressure system I am looking for or not. Weathermen make wrong predictions all of the time. If I am wrong I guess I might still qualify as one but I will not quit my day job for now. I like your humor though On Tuesday, September 25, 2012, wrote: Okay Stew... You've predicted the destination of Nadine, but why didn't you mention why you named it Nadine? So now, if I were to sound it out, it sounds very similar the word N-e-e-d-i-n-g? so, what is it that is relative importance you're currently in need of ?... is it wind-energy, a large amount of water for drinking, fishing, etc, etc., or maybe a big spin-off tornado or vortex that sucks you in sends you to another place? (tee hee). Theories are useless unless they help us predict. I have gone out on a limb to predict the destination of tropical storm Nadine that has been swirling in the gulf the past couple of weeks. I believe I am correct unless another dark matter particle interacts at some point along her path and wins out. http://wp.me/p26aeb-6D Please pray for me and those in her path or prepare to throw large amounts of egg at my face. Stewart /HTML
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites
At 10:15 PM 9/24/2012, Eric Walker wrote: If a reproducible lo-fi protocol could be worked out, someone could write to Nathan Lewis and say, we took a look at your objections in 1989 to the calorimetry and think we might have found a way around some of the difficulties ... None of what has been written recently in this thread addresses calorimetry or any evidence of nuclear reactions, I want to make that clear. That something gets hot sometimes and sometimes not isn't even close to such evidence. However, a way around some of the difficulties was found, before 1994. Miles found that excess heat in the Fleischmann-Pons Heat Effect, which he was able to reproduce many times, was correlated with excess heat, at roughly the right value for deuterium fusion. Helium is a nuclear product. The correlation is very strong: no heat, no helium, and thus, we may assume, no helium, no FPHE. Lewis looked for heat and may have looked for helium. MIT certainly did. No heat, no helium (There have been some reanalyses which show that experiments with both Lewis and MIT experiments appear to have had a little anomalous heat, it simply wasn't as much as was expected, and nailing it down wasn't considered important, likely it was not enough heat for the reaction to have generated enough helium to be noteworthy.) So if you do a PdD experiment and find no XP, it simply means that something was different and the reaction was not set up. This was known and understood even in the 1989 U.S. Department of Energy review. A negative replication never negates positive results, not on its own. Naturally, the pseudoskeptics attempt to use this as an argument against cold fusion. No reliability, the equate with unreality, yet many known phenomena, especially when little understood, appear to be unreliable. Once it was known that excess heat and helium were correlated, it becomes possible to independently check the calorimetry, by measuring helium. Some of the early negative replications measured both heat and helium, finding neither. Those then become part of the complete data set that *confirms* cold fusion, by confirming part of the heat/helium correlation. Now, the obvious challenge for those who wish to continue to deny cold fusion: reproduce the experiments! Then demonstrate the artifacts involved. That would be real science. I can imagine the pseudoskeptical wheels turning. What? Reproduce bad measurements? Yes. Reproduce bad measurements, if that is what is the problem. Use the same methods, and show, then, through controlled experiment, independent calorimetry, etc., how poor technique produces the results that have been considered to establish the reality of cold fusion. I'm warning you, though, it ain't gonna be easy. Have fun trying to explain why phony heat matches phony helium results, with the helium being measured blind. Have fun trying to explain why so many different calorimetric methods come up with the same anomaly. (Lewis actually attempted what could have been a piece of this, when he found that some cells appeared to show excess heat, which disappeared when they were stirred. If the cells had been similar in design and use to the Pons and Fleischmann cells, this could have been a cold-fusion-killer. But it wasn't, and very clear anomalous heat has been shown with flow calorimetry, impervious to this problem. This was all before the heat/helium correlation was known, most people absolutely did not expect to see helium as the ash. But Huizenga realized the implications of Miles' discovery immediately. He knew what a correlation would mean, and he only remained so seriously skeptical because he was able to stand on Miles not yet having been confirmed. Miles was confirmed, perhaps someone knows how Huizenga responded to that, if he was still capable of response.) Shanahan was desperate in his last published criticism, he'd obviously lost all shame, asserting Rube Goldberg explanations that couldn't possibly cover the range of evidence. I think the editors published his letter because the skeptical position is truly dead, but some readers may have complained, it is still a common opinion among the ignorant that cold fusion is total bogosity, and the editgors wanted to nail the coffin shut, as was effectively done when most of the major scientists in the field responded. (Journal of Environmental Monitoring, the original review of cold fusion was by Krivit and Marwan, if you want to find this.) (Shanahan later complained that the editors would not allow him to respond again. The tables have been turned. At a certain point, journals stop opening their pages to what they see as a crank.)
[Vo]:Universal LENR Reactor
Hawaiian inventor, Dale Basgall, has finished up his work on the design of the Universal LENR Reactor. He has designed this reactor to potentially serve multiple purposes (e.g., a teaching tool for studying thermodynamic processes, a way to heat water for tea and so forth, and fundamentally as a test-bed for studying LENR). I think this is also a clever approach to obtaining a patent. He has put together as many components as possible into the system (sonic resonance, electrostatic discharge, thermal regulation, and other components that have been reported as assisting in the LENR reaction). The best part is, that the design is meant to utilize nearly all off-the-shelf parts (other than the reactor core base plate, which requires machining to build). One of the notions behind this effort is to design a reactor that involves standard systems of control and measurement to facilitate LENR experiments and thus to assist in theory development and testing. Here is Mr. Basgall's latest work on the reactor: http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2012/09/26/universal-lenr-reactor-auto-pilot-system/ Here are all my related posts on his work: http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/category/universal-lenr-reactor/ Best regards, Jack
Re: [Vo]:Godes/McKubre 100% reproducability
Regarding the Dardik/Ultrasonic paper, I wonder if anyone has tried vapor deposition of palladium (or nickel, titanium, lithium???) directly onto a material with piezoelectric properties? Or for that matter, deposition on to a SAW device, over a very thin passivation layer that in turn lies over the metal forks? I think this would only make sense if the resulting chip could be placed in a compressed D2 environment. Electrolysis doesn't make sense here for many reasons. Piezo devices are high-impedance and voltage-driven - so you need a (possibly big ratio, more than 100:1) step-up transformer if you're going to use bipolar transistors to drive it. Power FETs might work directly. Dunno, not enough of an AC circuit designer to say. Also don't know about the drive characteristics of SAWs. Low voltages, I think. Then you need a control system that would allow modulation of the pulses - not difficult at ultrasonic frequencies, you could do it with a PC or just about any microcontroller, but still another design task. Yes, it quickly begins to resemble Godes' patent application. Go figure. I'm guessing the entire materials processing, system design and implementation task is daunting enough that it's never been done, given the paltry dollars available for LENR research. Of course Intel could do this in a week if they decided to bother...dream on. (But boy, oh boy, are THOSE guys going to be embarrassed if this all plays out and they miss out on all the patents!) For the record, I've never heard of SAW devices being mentioned in the same breath with LENR. For the record, I note that this email might be significant in some future patent or other IP law proceeding. Ramblin' on into an unknown and unknowable future. Jeff On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: At 03:43 PM 9/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Having David Kidwell to say anything unequivocally positive about cold fusion is the fourth miracle of cold fusion. The three previous miracles, brought to you by Huizenga, pale in comparison. The Coulomb barrier is nothing compared to the Kidwell Attitude Barrier. Maybe it's a miracle, but people with Seriously Bad Attitude about Cold Fusion don't run cold fusion experiments, because they are completely convinced that it's a waste of time. No, it appears that Kidwell is a skeptic, which is not at all a bad thing. He's obviously not a pseudoskeptic. Now, how will pseudoskeptics take Kidwells apparent turnabout? Putting on my pseudoskeptic hat, made of anti-tinfoil (looks exactly like tinfoil, but coming in contact with tinfoil, vanishes in a flash of hot air), I come up with: Kidwell obviously was an idiot, because he was willing to waste his time with this obvious nonsense, there is no credible theory that explains cold fusion, so any sane scientist won't touch it with a ten-foot-pole. We make sure they won't, because their reputations will be deservedly trashed faster than you can say Bockris. Remember Joe Champion? No? Obviously you have fallen under the influence of these fanatic die-hards, like the American Chemical Society, those physics-deprived chemists, and like the editors of Naturwissenschafter, what do the editors of a biology journal know about physics? The U.S. Navy has supported cold fusion research? Yeah, the military also supported research on killing goats by staring at them. Nobel Prize-winners have supported cold fusion research? Obviously, beyond their prime, losing it, dotty in their old age, like Pauling and that Josefson fellow. Did you know he's seriously considered telepathy? Yeah, to even think that cold fusion is possible, you have to have drunk way too much Whacko Kool-Aid. No, this is all a plot to divert seriously needed government funding for hot fusion, which has already produced breakeven once, and, with another trillion dollars of funding, is on track to produce real power by 2050. All this attention to cold fusion is weakening this important project, which employs hundreds of physicists and supports major reputable institutions. Hot fusion is proven technology, it works, and there are only a few technical details to be worked out for commercial applications, and the radioactive waste produced can be easily handled. ... I really wish I was making this up. Most of these arguments I have actually encountered, in one form or another. Mostly, they come from physics grad students, since they now know everything and will soon need a job applying it. They don't know chemistry and materials science, which are the cold fusion fields. Therefore it's bogus. Physics Rules. One little detail: experimental evidence. Feynman. Cargo Cult Science.
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: None of what has been written recently in this thread addresses calorimetry or any evidence of nuclear reactions, I want to make that clear. That something gets hot sometimes and sometimes not isn't even close to such evidence. Appreciated. The thought was that if you could find a way to demonstrate LENR above the error threshold of a mercury thermometer, there could be some mischievous fun to be had in presenting the toy experiment to Lewis, who, it seems to me, made the fairly straightforward job of measuring the flux of heat in a cell into something inordinately complex. Which is not to say there are no subtleties in calorimetry; only that it should have been clear that one of the best electrochemists in his day would be able to work out the power emitted from a PF cell above the error threshold, strongly suggesting that there was something going on besides experimental artifact. Instead, Lewis chose to attack the 1989 paper on methodological grounds. Eric
[Vo]:Anderson localization
In our discussions to date, the question that has not yet been addressed in detail is how fatigue cracks in cold fusion electrodes, nano-hairs on the surface of micro-grains and pitting in the wire that Celani uses all contribute to the cold fusion process. This question revolves around the wave based quantum mechanical property called Anderson localization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_localization What nature does in one instance, she can act in an opposite way in another. For instants, the wave nature of a quantum particle can cause a quantum mechanical phenomenon where a particle tunnels through a barrier that classically it could not surmount. Anderson localization is the opposite quantum mechanical phenomenon where a particle is fixed at a location that it classically should have no problem in surmounting. Think of it this way: in our classical world, a helicopter can fly over a mountain range without being disturbed by the underlying landscape, provided that it flies higher than the highest mountain, or provided that for the height at which it flies, there is a labyrinth of valleys allowing it to cross the mountain chain. But in the quantum world, a quantum helicopter has a very good chance of being unable to cross the chain, even if there is a percolating path of valleys, and, in some situations, even if it has enough energy to fly over the highest peak. And even more perplexing, the higher this quantum helicopter flies the less chance it has to get over the mountain. What happens instead is that its quantum wave remains trapped, due to the interference of the multiply reflected wave at the various mountain peaks. And the lager the electron is, that is, the more energy it has, the more likely the obstacles in its path will nail it to its original position; this strange behavior gives rise to a phenomenon known as Anderson localization. Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-09-broadens-quantum-mechanics.html#jCp When high energy electrons flow over a cracked, hairy, or pitted surface, these electrons will pile up and accumulate because their large wave forms are snagged by these surface imperfections. The bigger these quantum particle wave forms are, the more likely that these particles will be impaled and imprisoned by these surface imperfections. The same is true for proton cooper pairs that these imprisoned high energy electrons produce via the Shukla-Eliasson effect. These cooper pairs first form a pile of stuff called a Bose glass. A Bose glass is a disordered form of a Bose-Einstein condensate. When the conditions become favorable, these localize pairs form a Bose-Einstein condensate. In QM speak, these nonlinear bosonic matter waves can undergo a localization-delocalization quantum phase transition in any spatial dimension when the interaction strength is varied; the transition brings the system from a non-interacting Anderson insulator to an interacting superfluid. For the research that supports this new quantum mechanical interpretation see http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CB8QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Fnature%2Fjournal%2Fv489%2Fn7416%2Ffull%2Fnature11406.htmlei=635iULfnNYTO0QHU8YDoDQusg=AFQjCNEFWcWRYj5-jhRJNdgy7xEmcrTgRQsig2=_-S22pviwufHLkkd99P9iA Cheers:axil
Re: [Vo]:Anderson localization
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.4403 This reference is the underlying paper called Bose glass and Mott glass of quasiparticles in a doped quantum magnet On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: In our discussions to date, the question that has not yet been addressed in detail is how fatigue cracks in cold fusion electrodes, nano-hairs on the surface of micro-grains and pitting in the wire that Celani uses all contribute to the cold fusion process. This question revolves around the wave based quantum mechanical property called Anderson localization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_localization What nature does in one instance, she can act in an opposite way in another. For instants, the wave nature of a quantum particle can cause a quantum mechanical phenomenon where a particle tunnels through a barrier that classically it could not surmount. Anderson localization is the opposite quantum mechanical phenomenon where a particle is fixed at a location that it classically should have no problem in surmounting. Think of it this way: in our classical world, a helicopter can fly over a mountain range without being disturbed by the underlying landscape, provided that it flies higher than the highest mountain, or provided that for the height at which it flies, there is a labyrinth of valleys allowing it to cross the mountain chain. But in the quantum world, a quantum helicopter has a very good chance of being unable to cross the chain, even if there is a percolating path of valleys, and, in some situations, even if it has enough energy to fly over the highest peak. And even more perplexing, the higher this quantum helicopter flies the less chance it has to get over the mountain. What happens instead is that its quantum wave remains trapped, due to the interference of the multiply reflected wave at the various mountain peaks. And the lager the electron is, that is, the more energy it has, the more likely the obstacles in its path will nail it to its original position; this strange behavior gives rise to a phenomenon known as Anderson localization. Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-09-broadens-quantum-mechanics.html#jCp When high energy electrons flow over a cracked, hairy, or pitted surface, these electrons will pile up and accumulate because their large wave forms are snagged by these surface imperfections. The bigger these quantum particle wave forms are, the more likely that these particles will be impaled and imprisoned by these surface imperfections. The same is true for proton cooper pairs that these imprisoned high energy electrons produce via the Shukla-Eliasson effect. These cooper pairs first form a pile of stuff called a Bose glass. A Bose glass is a disordered form of a Bose-Einstein condensate. When the conditions become favorable, these localize pairs form a Bose-Einstein condensate. In QM speak, these nonlinear bosonic matter waves can undergo a localization-delocalization quantum phase transition in any spatial dimension when the interaction strength is varied; the transition brings the system from a non-interacting Anderson insulator to an interacting superfluid. For the research that supports this new quantum mechanical interpretation see http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CB8QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Fnature%2Fjournal%2Fv489%2Fn7416%2Ffull%2Fnature11406.htmlei=635iULfnNYTO0QHU8YDoDQusg=AFQjCNEFWcWRYj5-jhRJNdgy7xEmcrTgRQsig2=_-S22pviwufHLkkd99P9iA Cheers:axil