Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Alain Sepeda]

I see the graph, and time fleeing since LENR papers were stored on FTP
archives.

2018-02-08 23:48 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell :

> Did the graph show up? Can people here see it?
>
>
> This discussion group software is a little out of date. A little, as in .
> . . 20 years?
>
> - Jed
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Esa Ruoho]

I was able to see the graph, Jed.

On 9 February 2018 at 00:48, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Did the graph show up? Can people here see it?
>
>
> This discussion group software is a little out of date. A little, as in .
> . . 20 years?
>
> - Jed
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Jed Rothwell]

Did the graph show up? Can people here see it?


This discussion group software is a little out of date. A little, as in . .
. 20 years?

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Jed Rothwell]

Alain Sepeda  wrote:

by the way, any news on you video pitch? popular?
>

87,636 lifetime views.

Let's see if I can attach the graph.

[image: Inline image 1]

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Alain Sepeda]

8>

by the way, any news on you video pitch? popular?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjvL4zNLOGw=youtu.be

2018-02-08 23:08 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell :

> The Google Trend for "cold fusion Rossi" has plunged. Thank goodness. See:
>
> https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=cold%20fusion%20rossi=all
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Jed Rothwell]

The Google Trend for "cold fusion Rossi" has plunged. Thank goodness. See:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=cold%20fusion%20rossi=all

Re: [Vo]:Miles and Flieschmann paper on calorimetry uploaded

[Jed Rothwell]

I improved Appendix A, per suggestions from Mel:

APPENDIX A. [kR′] HEAT TRANSFER COEFFICIENT FORMAT

Added by Jed Rothwell in 2018

Fleischmann used the designation [kR′] where R is the radiative heat
transfer coefficient, with 2 or 3 subscripts: [kR′] *i, j, l*. The
subscripts mean:

*i* Method of analysis. 1=Differential; 2=Backward integration; 3=Forward
integration



*j* When present: Time period of measurement cycle. When there are only two
subscripts this term is not included.

j=5, times somewhat above the origin

j=6, times somewhat above t1 [application of calibration pulse]

j=7, times somewhat above t2 [cessation of calibration pulse]

j=8, combination of times for j=6 and j=7



*l* Indicates 1=Lower bound; 2=True



Thus:

[kR′]11 indicates: Differential, Lower bound.

[kR′]262 indicates: Backward integration; Time period 6; True value.



A single bar over the kR′ term indicates this is an 11-point average value,
where values are measured every 5 minutes (55 minutes):



The double bar, used in other documents, indicates a double average; that
is, 6 of the 11-point averages combined (6 × 55 = 330 minutes total):



Source: Miles, M., M. Fleischmann, and M.A. Imam, *Calorimetric Analysis of
a Heavy Water Electrolysis Experiment Using a Pd-B Alloy Cathode* 2001,
Washington: Naval Research Laboratory, pages 4-5. Averages described on
page 12. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMcalorimetrd.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Alain Sepeda]

sorry jed, I'm just surprised by good moves.
Maybe the trafic is low because the peanut gallery is tired (like me), but
white and blue collar are moving. Some even told me to stop being negative
8)

Future will say if this is fruitful.

2018-02-08 21:38 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell :

> Alain Sepeda  wrote:
>
> Jed, Don't despair ;-)
>>
>
> I am not the despairing type.
>
> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. *Especially*
> distressing one.
>
> - Jed
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Esa Ruoho]

Now I see why nobody ever responds to my emails. They're busy deleting them
with voice commands!


On 8 February 2018 at 23:00, Frank Acland  wrote:

> sorry, please ignore my previous message, just a mistake.
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Frank Acland  wrote:
> > delete
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:
> >> Jed it'd be really interesting to have you interviewed for the Cold
> Fusion
> >> Now! podcast series.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8 February 2018 at 22:38, Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Alain Sepeda  wrote:
> >>>
>  Jed, Don't despair ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am not the despairing type.
> >>>
> >>> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. Especially
> >>> distressing one.
> >>>
> >>> - Jed
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial //
> >
> >
> >
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> > Publisher, E-Cat World
>
>
>
> --
> Frank Acland
> Publisher, E-Cat World
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Frank Acland]

sorry, please ignore my previous message, just a mistake.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Frank Acland  wrote:
> delete
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:
>> Jed it'd be really interesting to have you interviewed for the Cold Fusion
>> Now! podcast series.
>>
>>
>> On 8 February 2018 at 22:38, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Alain Sepeda  wrote:
>>>
 Jed, Don't despair ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not the despairing type.
>>>
>>> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. Especially
>>> distressing one.
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> esaru...@gmail.com //
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>> http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial //
>
>
>
> --
> Frank Acland
> Publisher, E-Cat World



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Publisher, E-Cat World

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Frank Acland]

delete

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:
> Jed it'd be really interesting to have you interviewed for the Cold Fusion
> Now! podcast series.
>
>
> On 8 February 2018 at 22:38, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>>
>> Alain Sepeda  wrote:
>>
>>> Jed, Don't despair ;-)
>>
>>
>> I am not the despairing type.
>>
>> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. Especially
>> distressing one.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://linkedin.com/in/esaruoho // http://twitter.com/esaruoho //
> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com //
> +358403703659 // http://lackluster.org // skype:esajuhaniruoho // iMessage
> esaru...@gmail.com //
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> http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial //



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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Esa Ruoho]

Jed it'd be really interesting to have you interviewed for the Cold Fusion
Now! podcast series.


On 8 February 2018 at 22:38, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Alain Sepeda  wrote:
>
> Jed, Don't despair ;-)
>>
>
> I am not the despairing type.
>
> I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. *Especially*
> distressing one.
>
> - Jed
>
>


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Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Jed Rothwell]

Alain Sepeda  wrote:

Jed, Don't despair ;-)
>

I am not the despairing type.

I strongly believe in facing facts, even distressing ones. *Especially*
distressing one.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Alain Sepeda]

Jed, Don't despair ;-)
Don't despair like I did still few days ago.

Hope is from a so improbable place, a so natural place.

LENR is a God's joke.


2018-02-08 20:38 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell :

> See LENR-CANR.org Total Downloads and the Google Trends graph over time
> from 2004 to the present:
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1213
>
>

[Vo]:Interest in cold fusion is waning

[Jed Rothwell]

See LENR-CANR.org Total Downloads and the Google Trends graph over time
from 2004 to the present:

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1213

RE: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matterandexplains the EM drive

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Andrew—

I do not regularly consider lasing, but I also was amazed by the detail 
provided by the referenced document from 2003.  The random orientations of 
small emitters which leads to amplified coherent beams was unexpected.  The 
paper suggests many practical applications, including engineered LENR systems.

Bob Cook

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andrew Meulenberg
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 8:36 AM
To: VORTEX; Andrew 
Meulenberg
Cc: cmns
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark 
matterandexplains the EM drive

Thank you for the reference (below). I see this as a possible explanation of 
the coherent optical (and x-ray?) emission and even the rf emissions that have 
been detected in active CF reactions. The intense EM fields (direct and as 
photons) associated with nuclear decay via the deep-orbit electrons (proposed 
as the operative mechanism for CF effects) act as an intense 'pump' source to 
produce microscopic (perhaps plasma-like) lasing regions:
"... the statistical properties of the emission of a laser with non-resonant 
feedback are very close to those of the emission from an extremely bright
‘black body’ in a narrow range of the spectrum. The emission of such a laser 
has no spatial coherence and is not stable in phase."
Nevertheless, linear defects within the lattice (a proposed source of CF) would 
provide a basis for spatial coherence.
The reference addresses, and has many sources on, types of lasing that we 
generally don't consider.

Andrew M.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM, JonesBeene 
> wrote:
An interesting but slightly dated paper is available without the usual paywall, 
which covers a number of advanced optics projects which were once classified, 
and may still be partially hidden -  like the photonic bomb…

https://www.eng.yale.edu/caolab/papers/wrm03.pdf



 "Brian Ahern" > wrote:

 This nanometric laser was developed in 1996 under an AF SBIR Phase II 
contract. I was the  contract monitor. Prof. Nabil Lawandy developed LASER 
PAINT. It incorporated nanopowders that scattered light and resulted in 
stimulated emission  It is widely used today.

RE: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for darkmatterandexplains the EM drive

[JonesBeene]

Andrew,

On a different subject – have you written anything on the UDH species of Dr. 
Leif Holmlid in relationship to your DDL?

At first glance it would seem unlikely that the two are not related or even the 
same species.

Jones



From: Andrew Meulenberg

Thank you for the reference (below). I see this as a possible explanation of 
the coherent optical (and x-ray?) emission and even the rf emissions that have 
been detected in active CF reactions. The intense EM fields (direct and as 
photons) associated with nuclear decay via the deep-orbit electrons (proposed 
as the operative mechanism for CF effects) act as an intense 'pump' source to 
produce microscopic (perhaps plasma-like) lasing regions: 
"... the statistical properties of the emission of a laser with non-resonant 
feedback are very close to those of the emission from an extremely bright
‘black body’ in a narrow range of the spectrum. The emission of such a laser 
has no spatial coherence and is not stable in phase."
Nevertheless, linear defects within the lattice (a proposed source of CF) would 
provide a basis for spatial coherence.
The reference addresses, and has many sources on, types of lasing that we 
generally don't consider.

Andrew M.

 JonesBeene wrote:
An interesting but slightly dated paper is available without the usual paywall, 
which covers a number of advanced optics projects which were once classified, 
and may still be partially hidden -  like the photonic bomb…
https://www.eng.yale.edu/caolab/papers/wrm03.pdf 
 "Brian Ahern"  wrote:
 This nanometric laser was developed in 1996 under an AF SBIR Phase II 
contract. I was the  contract monitor. Prof. Nabil Lawandy developed LASER 
PAINT. It incorporated nanopowders that scattered light and resulted in 
stimulated emission  It is widely used today.
 

Re: [Vo]:Quantized inertia Ted talk removes need for dark matterandexplains the EM drive

[Andrew Meulenberg]

Thank you for the reference (below). I see this as a possible explanation
of the coherent optical (and x-ray?) emission and even the rf emissions
that have been detected in active CF reactions. The intense EM fields
(direct and as photons) associated with nuclear decay via the deep-orbit
electrons (proposed as the operative mechanism for CF effects) act as an
intense 'pump' source to produce microscopic (perhaps plasma-like) lasing
regions:
"... the statistical properties of the emission of a laser with
non-resonant feedback are very close to those of the emission from an
extremely bright
‘black body’ in a narrow range of the spectrum. The emission of such a
laser has no spatial coherence and is not stable in phase."
Nevertheless, linear defects within the lattice (a proposed source of CF)
would provide a basis for spatial coherence.

The reference addresses, and has many sources on, types of lasing that we
generally don't consider.

Andrew M.


On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM, JonesBeene  wrote:

> An interesting but slightly dated paper is available without the usual
> paywall, which covers a number of advanced optics projects which were once
> classified, and may still be partially hidden -  like the photonic bomb…
>
>
>
> https://www.eng.yale.edu/caolab/papers/wrm03.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  "Brian Ahern"  wrote:
>
>  This nanometric laser was developed in 1996 under an AF SBIR Phase II
> contract. I was the  contract monitor. Prof. Nabil Lawandy developed LASER
> PAINT. It incorporated nanopowders that scattered light and resulted in
> stimulated emission  It is widely used today.
>
>
>