Re: [Vo]:Proceedings of the 19th Meeting of Japan CF Research Society JCF19

[mixent]

In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 3 Jun 2019 20:04:14 -0400:
Hi Jed,
[snip]

Anyone who wants something translated should get it done by someone who's first
language is the target language, and who's second language is the source
language. 
The reason being that it's much easier to read a foreign language than it is to
write it correctly.

>See:
>
>http://jcfrs.org/file/jcf19-proceedings.pdf
>
>Other Proceedings:
>
>http://jcfrs.org/proc_jcf.html
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

[Vo]:Proceedings of the 19th Meeting of Japan CF Research Society JCF19

[Jed Rothwell]

See:

http://jcfrs.org/file/jcf19-proceedings.pdf

Other Proceedings:

http://jcfrs.org/proc_jcf.html

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette cited wrong paper, and apparently tried to do Rossi experiment

[Jed Rothwell]

Okay, the second time they talk about the Ni-H experiments, they reference
Levi et al.:

61. Levi, G., et al., *Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a
reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder* 2013: Bologna
University

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LeviGindication.pdf

So, no big deal. Ref. 40 was a little off. This one is okay. I still wonder
if anyone actually knows what the nickel had in it.

Re: [Vo]:Berlinguette cited wrong paper, and apparently tried to do Rossi experiment

[Jed Rothwell]

Ah. There is a claim of excess heat from this system, by Parkhomov:

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedr.pdf#page=252

[Vo]:Berlinguette cited wrong paper, and apparently tried to do Rossi experiment

[Jed Rothwell]

There is some confusion in the new paper from the Google researchers,
Berlinguette, C.P., et al., *Revisiting the cold case of cold fusion*.
Nature, 2019

On p. 4 it says: "Over the course of 16 months, we evaluated contemporary
claims of more than 10% excess heat production involving samples of nickel
powder and lithium aluminium hydride (LiAlH4)." They refer to these as Ni-H
samples and they say they tested 420 samples, but they saw no excess heat.

Earlier in the paper, on p. 2 it says:

"Without the guidance of a generally accepted theory, our survey of the
field led us to focus on the empirical investigation of three of its most
prominent claims: (1) the claim that metal electrodes loaded with
extraordinary amounts of hydrogen are a necessary precursor to cold fusion
[39]; (2) the claim that metallic powders heated in a hydrogen environment
produce excess heat [40]; and (3) the claim that pulsed plasma discharges
produce tritium and other anomalous nuclear signatures [41]."


Reference 39 is McKubre, M. C. H. Cold fusion: comments on the state of
scientific proof. Curr. Sci. 108, 495–498 (2015).

https://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/04/0495.pdf

Reference 40 is Focardi, S., Habel, R. & Piantelli, F. *Anomalous heat
production in Ni-H systems*. Nuovo Cim. A 107, 163–167 (1994). This is not
about nickel metallic powders. It is about “a hydrogen-loaded nickel rod.”
Solid nickel, not powder. Apparently Berlinguette *et al.* cited the wrong
paper.

Reference 41 is Claytor, T. N., Jackson, D. D. & Tuggle, D. G. Tritium
Production from a Low Voltage Deuterium Discharge on Palladium and Other
Metals. https://doi.
org/10.2172/102234 (LANL, 1995). I think this is the same as:

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumpro.pdf

So, who used nickel powder and lithium aluminium hydride (LiAlH4)? Some
people claimed that Focardi and Rossi used this. However, Focardi and
Rossi's paper does not say that. It says only “additives.” It does not say
which ones. Quote: "The system on which we operate consists of Ni, in H
atmosphere and in the presence of additives placed in a sealed container
and heated by a current passing through a resistor."

Focardi, S. and A. Rossi, *A new energy source from nuclear fusion*.
www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com, 2010

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSanewenergy.pdf


Biberian mentions LiAlH4. Budko says he tried this, but it produced no
heat. See:

Budko, K. and A. Korshunov, *Calorimetric Investigation of Anomalous Heat
Production in Ni–H Systems*. J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., 2017. 23: p.
85-9

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedv.pdf#page=90

I do not find any other experiment using nickel powder and lithium
aluminium hydride. In fact, I cannot find any papers that claims excess
heat from nickel powder, except Focardi and Rossi, and later Levi et al.
with Rossi’s cell:

Levi, G., et al., *Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a
reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder* 2013: Bologna
University

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LeviGindication.pdf

Apparently, Berlinguette *et al.* were trying to replicate Rossi without
knowing what the powder in his cell was made of. That seems like a bad idea
to me. I think you should only try to replicate experiments for which you
have full details and the cooperation of the person who did the experiment,
or someone else who replicated. Berlinguette *et al.* never mention Rossi
in their paper, and there are no references to his work, so perhaps I am
wrong. But I cannot find anyone else who supposedly used this material, and
I cannot find anyone who reported that it worked.

Ed Storms believes Rossi did not use nickel plus aluminum hydride.

RE: [Vo]:RTSC results confirmed … well, almost

[JonesBeene]

From: Brian Ahern

Macroscopic Au-Ag has no chance for RTSC …. However, nanoscale assemblies can 
result in ultra conduction.  Zero resistance, but no Meisner Effect.


Well, shouldn’t we give  the chaps from India the benefit of doubt…? 
OK … maybe not, but here is a hypothetical rationale for Au/Ag RTSC which fills 
in the blanks in Brian’s conclusion about nano-geometry. 
Although it is true that BCS theory successfully explains the lossless effect 
in terms of electron pairing theory (or did no at one time) and the formation 
of Cooper pairs  is only possible in so-called “high-symmetry space” groups 
(but gold and silver are not in that group)... there is more to the story. 
Main overriding conclusion – Nothing NOTHING in the field of high temperature 
superconductivity is as simple as it first seems. There are exceptions to every 
rule and then exceptions to the exceptions. 
To wit, more recently (2014) superconductivity was  seen in low-symmetry space 
groups (crystal structure which lacks spatial inversion symmetry). Gold 
compounds or alloys, specifically have shown the effect but not at room 
temperature. In particularly the National Institute for Materials Science 
(NIMS) synthesized a novel superconductor, SrAuSi3, which contains gold as a 
principal constituent. This only means that “symmetry space” is not simply a 
basic property of the elements involved, alone, but must also be considered in 
terms of a larger accumulation of atoms.
https://phys.org/news/2014-04-discovery-gold-based-superconductor.html
The reason that this could be relevant to the claim from India (if it is 
replicated) is then what is known as the Proximity effect or Holm-Meissner 
effect.
The proximity effect describe the phenomena of a superconductor placed in 
contact with a highly conductive non-superconductor. Typically signs of 
superconductivity are observed in the normal metal. Holm and Meissner observed 
zero resistance in contacts where two superconducting metals are separated by a 
thin film of a non-superconducting material. This opens the possibility of 
slight oxidation in the silver nanoparticles which then is then transferred to 
the gold via an extreme proximity effect.
OK – this is a stretch - and in a way it makes no one happy since impugns the 
Indian effort (unintended oxidation effect) but curiously no one has yet made a 
decent effort to find a way that this claim could work, as opposed to the 
knee-jerk reaction that it cannot work.
If it does work this way (proximity effect), and especially if the 
nano-geometry benefits from the precision of advanced chip lithography (10 nm 
silver dots) then copper can probably be substituted for gold making the 
process economically viable as well as technically viable.
Badhai, chaps… you may have opened the door.

From: JonesBeene 
 
This is a well-written article about the apparent claim of room temperature 
superconductivity coming from India last year,
 
https://thewire.in/the-sciences/iisc-room-temperature-superconductor-gold-silver-magnetic-susceptibility
 
The problem is that there is still no replication and the upgraded paper is 
less than adequate, given the importance of the claim.
 
 
Where are the replicators???
 
The interesting thing is that that only two elements are needed – gold and 
silver. Ubiquitous. Since these are readily available the critical detail then 
is getting the “nano” structure correct as clearly no alloy of gold and silver 
come close to RTSC by a factor of perhaps 10,000:1.
 
There could be alternative ways to do this, including sputtering.
 
For instance – we have a well developed nano-lithography industry in place in 
the computer chip industry.
 
If RTSC is indeed possible with any combination of nanostructure using silver 
and gold – there is no better place to stage a replication attempt than in a 
chip fab or lab.
 
Therefore the “gorilla in the closet” which everyone seems to be neglecting on 
this claim is IBM.
 
They set the standard for both HTSC, having invented it, and for state of the 
art chips. They have a ready market. There is no greater fit for this tech on 
planet earth.
 
Where art thou IBM ?
 
Given the big picture, I cannot imagine that you have not taken notice…
 
Jones
 
 

Re: [Vo]:RTSC results confirmed … well, almost

[Brian Ahern]

Macroscopic Au-Ag has no chance for RTSC.

 However, nanoscale assemblies can result in ultra conduction.  Zero 
resistance, but no Meisner Effect.

From: JonesBeene 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 1:05 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:RTSC results confirmed … well, almost


This is a well-written article about the apparent claim of room temperature 
superconductivity coming from India last year,



https://thewire.in/the-sciences/iisc-room-temperature-superconductor-gold-silver-magnetic-susceptibility



The problem is that there is still no replication and the upgraded paper is 
less than adequate, given the importance of the claim.





Where are the replicators???



The interesting thing is that that only two elements are needed – gold and 
silver. Ubiquitous. Since these are readily available the critical detail then 
is getting the “nano” structure correct as clearly no alloy of gold and silver 
come close to RTSC by a factor of perhaps 10,000:1.



There could be alternative ways to do this, including sputtering.



For instance – we have a well developed nano-lithography industry in place in 
the computer chip industry.



If RTSC is indeed possible with any combination of nanostructure using silver 
and gold – there is no better place to stage a replication attempt than in a 
chip fab or lab.



Therefore the “gorilla in the closet” which everyone seems to be neglecting on 
this claim is IBM.



They set the standard for both HTSC, having invented it, and for state of the 
art chips. They have a ready market. There is no greater fit for this tech on 
planet earth.



Where art thou IBM ?



Given the big picture, I cannot imagine that you have not taken notice…



Jones