Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part
I was deliberately vague because that might have been your intention also. If not, then: 1. does it matter what kind of screen the image is created on? - vacuum tube gives an electrostatic charge that can be felt - laser print does too? - laptop screens may or may not produce charge effects; however, - image is predominantly white background and hands have heat sensors that are much more sensitive to changes in environment than to absolute values. - would inverted image (black background) produce similar effect, if one is observed. - etc. 2. hand motion: - how fast/slow? - prior testing of sensitivity: - like the eyes adapt to the light levels available, so does the various sensors in the hands. - with a little practice, one can "feel" the wind, or the change in air pressure on the fingertips as one moves the hand. - this could provide a positive for your test even if no image were present. - does hand occlude image or not? - does brisk rubbing of hands prior to test alter observed effects? - I have observed this to increase probability of another person sensing the direction of motion of your fingers above their palm (even with their eyes closed). - does hand dominance (right or left) affect result? 3. eye motion - are you supposed to look at the image or the hand during the test? - does closing your eyes alter the effect if one is observed? 4 etc. If the effect you are seeking is so robust that 50% of subjects respond (independent of test conditions/instructions), then details may not be important. While my initial trial did not sense anything, I am sure that I could "tune" my system to respond to the motion even without the image or the screen (and even with the eyes closed). Is it worth the trouble to determine if the image has an effect (with eyes open and closed)? AM _ _ _ On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:12 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Your objection is also inadequately specified. > > Do you mean my failing to mention that the energy could remain for some > time after removal from the screen? > > Well, in that event, it has been remedied now, if the inadequacy is > anything else I'm not sure what it might be, please clarify. > > Thanks. > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrew Meulenberg > wrote: > >> The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the >> number of people who will respond). >> >> AM >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry >> wrote: >> >>> TLDR: Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz >>> place tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and >>> out. Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back >>> either way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are >>> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this. >>> >>> >>> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and >>> some of those could feel the energy from my images. >>> Roughly 50% do. >>> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many >>> here are too closed minded to even try it. >>> >>> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is >>> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field >>> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or >>> Orgone). >>> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then. >>> >>> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already >>> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of >>> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity. >>> >>> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to >>> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active >>> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel. >>> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better >>> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development. >>> >>> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone >>> who wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition. >>> >>> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are >>> patterns of light. >>> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser >>> fusion fuses matter. >>> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on >>> which electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and >>> magnetic permeability of space. >>> >>> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the >>> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether. >>> >>> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this >>> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the >>> images. >>> >>> >>>
Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part
I think it should be conducted on a website where a program randomly chooses an active and inactive image for each test subject. The program would keep a record of the responses for each image. Afterwards you could analyse the data. Harry On Thu., Feb. 27, 2020, 9:12 p.m. Jonathan Berry, wrote: > Your objection is also inadequately specified. > > Do you mean my failing to mention that the energy could remain for some > time after removal from the screen? > > Well, in that event, it has been remedied now, if the inadequacy is > anything else I'm not sure what it might be, please clarify. > > Thanks. > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrew Meulenberg > wrote: > >> The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the >> number of people who will respond). >> >> AM >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry >> wrote: >> >>> TLDR: Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz >>> place tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and >>> out. Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back >>> either way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are >>> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this. >>> >>> >>> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and >>> some of those could feel the energy from my images. >>> Roughly 50% do. >>> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many >>> here are too closed minded to even try it. >>> >>> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is >>> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field >>> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or >>> Orgone). >>> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then. >>> >>> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already >>> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of >>> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity. >>> >>> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to >>> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active >>> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel. >>> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better >>> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development. >>> >>> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone >>> who wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition. >>> >>> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are >>> patterns of light. >>> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser >>> fusion fuses matter. >>> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on >>> which electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and >>> magnetic permeability of space. >>> >>> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the >>> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether. >>> >>> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this >>> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the >>> images. >>> >>> >>> https://ibb.co/S75gccz >>> >>> >>> To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you >>> are making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take >>> a minute for the energy to become tangible. >>> You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning. >>> >>> The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger >>> than the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the >>> energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is >>> more compelling. >>> >>> If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join >>> this email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences >>> >>> And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so: >>> Ideas >>> Emotional support. >>> Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to >>> heal X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on >>> changes/details. >>> Working on the theory, the science of it >>> Donating money or raising money >>> Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also >>> hear and see things. >>> Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this. >>> Suggesting contacts >>> Managing some sort of organization to further this science. >>> Promoting this technology >>> Helping with strategy. >>> >>> The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage >>> still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and >>> acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the >>> world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the >>> stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and
Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory
In reply to Blaze Spinnaker's message of Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:37:26 -0800: Hi, [snip] https://stationfy.imgix.net/cm/5e5808bfe3daa3000772bb7c.jpg?w=570=fillmax This looks like only the outside of the bundle gets disinfected. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk local asymmetry = temporary success
Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part
Your objection is also inadequately specified. Do you mean my failing to mention that the energy could remain for some time after removal from the screen? Well, in that event, it has been remedied now, if the inadequacy is anything else I'm not sure what it might be, please clarify. Thanks. On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the > number of people who will respond). > > AM > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > >> TLDR: Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz place >> tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and out. >> Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back either >> way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are >> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this. >> >> >> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and >> some of those could feel the energy from my images. >> Roughly 50% do. >> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many >> here are too closed minded to even try it. >> >> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is >> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field >> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or >> Orgone). >> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then. >> >> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already >> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of >> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity. >> >> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to >> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active >> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel. >> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better >> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development. >> >> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone >> who wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition. >> >> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are >> patterns of light. >> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser >> fusion fuses matter. >> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on which >> electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and magnetic >> permeability of space. >> >> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the >> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether. >> >> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this >> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the >> images. >> >> >> https://ibb.co/S75gccz >> >> >> To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you >> are making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take >> a minute for the energy to become tangible. >> You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning. >> >> The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger than >> the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the >> energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is >> more compelling. >> >> If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join >> this email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences >> >> And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so: >> Ideas >> Emotional support. >> Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to heal >> X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on >> changes/details. >> Working on the theory, the science of it >> Donating money or raising money >> Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also >> hear and see things. >> Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this. >> Suggesting contacts >> Managing some sort of organization to further this science. >> Promoting this technology >> Helping with strategy. >> >> The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage >> still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and >> acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the >> world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the >> stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and much much more. >> >> This is huge, and the difference might come down to your support, this >> needs a pioneering spirit, so do you want to do something hugely positive >> for the world? Make a massive difference? >> >> As long as you have the desire to contribute to this, there should be a >> way for you to do so. >> >> I hope I see all of you on my list: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences >> >> Regards, >>
Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part
The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the number of people who will respond). AM On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > TLDR: Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz place > tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and out. > Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back either > way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are > numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this. > > > Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and some > of those could feel the energy from my images. > Roughly 50% do. > It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many > here are too closed minded to even try it. > > Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is > that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field > of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or > Orgone). > My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then. > > This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already > demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of > Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity. > > This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to > achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active > blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel. > It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better > understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development. > > This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone who > wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition. > > Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are > patterns of light. > Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser > fusion fuses matter. > Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on which > electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and magnetic > permeability of space. > > In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the > aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether. > > About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this > point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the > images. > > > https://ibb.co/S75gccz > > > To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you are > making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take a > minute for the energy to become tangible. > You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning. > > The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger than > the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the > energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is > more compelling. > > If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join > this email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences > > And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so: > Ideas > Emotional support. > Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to heal > X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on > changes/details. > Working on the theory, the science of it > Donating money or raising money > Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also > hear and see things. > Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this. > Suggesting contacts > Managing some sort of organization to further this science. > Promoting this technology > Helping with strategy. > > The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage > still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and > acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the > world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the > stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and much much more. > > This is huge, and the difference might come down to your support, this > needs a pioneering spirit, so do you want to do something hugely positive > for the world? Make a massive difference? > > As long as you have the desire to contribute to this, there should be a > way for you to do so. > > I hope I see all of you on my list: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences > > Regards, > Jonathan Berry > > > >
Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory
Can't imagine this bodes well either -
https://www.kron4.com/health/coronavirus/solano-county-declares-emergency-following-possible-community-spread-case/
Community Spread case occurred in town where Travis Air Force Base where
dozens of people infected in China or on cruise ships have been treated.
And now some whistle blower apparently is saying people didn't take
precautions -
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/politics/hhs-whistleblower-coronavirus/index.html
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:37 PM Blaze Spinnaker
wrote:
> Two questions that are currently speculative and open that don't get much
> press (because they are speculative, I guess, and likely will cause undue
> alarm)
>
> - Is sars2 bi-phasic ('like anthrax')
> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/27/national/diamond-princess-coronavirus-2/
> If it is bi-phasic, how infectious are folks who haven't quite recovered?
> - Is there really an HIV mutation in sars2 that makes it 1000 times more
> stronger than sars?
> https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say
>
> There is a lot of HIV discussion around coronavirus. Hard to weed through
> all the noise. Doctors self administering hiv meds, india paper (since
> withdrawn -
> https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/Scientists-slam-Indian-study-that-fueled-coronavirus-rumors)
> implying that HIV was artificially added to virus.
>
> If sars2 is bi-phasic and does have an HIV mutation (artificial or
> otherwise), I can only imagine the panic that will result.
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:26 AM wrote:
>
>> In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:58:45 -0500:
>> Hi,
>> >*All schools in Japan told to close until April over virus outbreak*
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/27/national/hokkaido-coronavirus-school/#.XlfJtmhKg2w
>> >
>> [snip]
>>
>> First they take a stringent measure, then immediately blow holes in it,
>> by creating exemptions.
>> [snip]
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>
>> local asymmetry = temporary success
>>
>>
Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory
Two questions that are currently speculative and open that don't get much
press (because they are speculative, I guess, and likely will cause undue
alarm)
- Is sars2 bi-phasic ('like anthrax')
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/27/national/diamond-princess-coronavirus-2/
If it is bi-phasic, how infectious are folks who haven't quite recovered?
- Is there really an HIV mutation in sars2 that makes it 1000 times more
stronger than sars?
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say
There is a lot of HIV discussion around coronavirus. Hard to weed through
all the noise. Doctors self administering hiv meds, india paper (since
withdrawn -
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/Scientists-slam-Indian-study-that-fueled-coronavirus-rumors)
implying that HIV was artificially added to virus.
If sars2 is bi-phasic and does have an HIV mutation (artificial or
otherwise), I can only imagine the panic that will result.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:26 AM wrote:
> In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:58:45 -0500:
> Hi,
> >*All schools in Japan told to close until April over virus outbreak*
> >
> >
> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/27/national/hokkaido-coronavirus-school/#.XlfJtmhKg2w
> >
> [snip]
>
> First they take a stringent measure, then immediately blow holes in it, by
> creating exemptions.
> [snip]
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>
Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:58:45 -0500: Hi, >*All schools in Japan told to close until April over virus outbreak* > >https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/27/national/hokkaido-coronavirus-school/#.XlfJtmhKg2w > [snip] First they take a stringent measure, then immediately blow holes in it, by creating exemptions. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk local asymmetry = temporary success
Re: [Vo]:Galilean relativity and a tree.
In reply to H LV's message of Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:47:22 -0500: Hi Harry, [snip] >Ideally the choice should be the product of investigation and (conscious) >deliberation rather than just be driven by perception. I agree. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk local asymmetry = temporary success
Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Thanks for trying it David. I really am grateful! I guess you didn't feel enough to say it works, but I will just note that if you can still feel the energy after removing the image, this doesn't mean much. Reason is the energy can remain for quite some time without the image. Now, if you tried another screen that seemed comparable, or a totally different location on the same screen and felt the same level of heat, that would be more compelling. I will note that while this is most assuredly NOT the placebo effect as the "feeler" doesn't need to be aware or even see the design/device to observe the energy. I am willing to count your result as a "fail", but if you could perhaps try against a control screen instead of against the same screen with the image removed as that is not going to work and get back it you see that there is a difference. Thanks. On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:49 AM David L. Babcock wrote: > Tried it twice, but arm/wrist got too tired to give it even 1/2 min. The > poll didn't give me an option to explicate my experience, so I post here; I > indeed felt something: heat. Moving closer and further increased and > decreased this as you would expect. > *When I tried this sequence on screen without image, it was exactly the > same. * > > This is the sort of basic element of experiment design which you really > have to incorporate! > In your defense, aspirin and many other meds do not effect me much; > perhaps I am placebo immune. Or "magic" immune. (I am pretty sure magic is > a real thing; I've seen it.) > > Please do not assume that by using the term "magic" I am denigrating your > findings, or your attempt to make explanations. I am firmly in the open > minded camp. > > Hey! Lets see some picture of your asymmetrical coils. > > Yours, David Babcock > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > >> Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... >> >> But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I >> believe that it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't >> believe that there is another way to get attention or belief in this. >> Indeed attention requires belief. >> >> If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the >> results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not >> bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve >> markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) >> before I would re-present it ever to this group. >> >> I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the >> energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then >> it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more >> attention. >> >> Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried >> the latest designs? >> I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. >> >> Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while >> only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see >> it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel >> strangely draw to the images. >> >> Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: >> https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 >> Further images here: >> https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 >> >> *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression >> artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second >> link. >> >> My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of >> believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by >> the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I >> have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven >> wrong. >> >> What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a >> compelling degree of activity, what then? >> Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would >> hope so, but we will see. >> >> >> Maybe my last email on the subject?! >> Jonathan >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Tried it twice, but arm/wrist got too tired to give it even 1/2 min. The poll didn't give me an option to explicate my experience, so I post here; I indeed felt something: heat. Moving closer and further increased and decreased this as you would expect. *When I tried this sequence on screen without image, it was exactly the same. * This is the sort of basic element of experiment design which you really have to incorporate! In your defense, aspirin and many other meds do not effect me much; perhaps I am placebo immune. Or "magic" immune. (I am pretty sure magic is a real thing; I've seen it.) Please do not assume that by using the term "magic" I am denigrating your findings, or your attempt to make explanations. I am firmly in the open minded camp. Hey! Lets see some picture of your asymmetrical coils. Yours, David Babcock On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... > > But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I believe that > it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't believe that > there is another way to get attention or belief in this. Indeed attention > requires belief. > > If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the > results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not > bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve > markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) > before I would re-present it ever to this group. > > I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the > energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then > it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more > attention. > > Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried > the latest designs? > I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. > > Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while > only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see > it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel > strangely draw to the images. > > Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: > https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 > Further images here: > https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 > > *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression > artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second > link. > > My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of > believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by > the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I > have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven > wrong. > > What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a > compelling degree of activity, what then? > Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would > hope so, but we will see. > > > Maybe my last email on the subject?! > Jonathan > > >
Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory
Terry Blanton wrote: *All schools in Japan told to close until April over virus outbreak* > That is a very serious response. I am surprised they are going this far. Here is an article by a political scientist in Japan who is outraged by the Japanese government's response to the crisis: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-japan-abe.html
Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory
*All schools in Japan told to close until April over virus outbreak* https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/27/national/hokkaido-coronavirus-school/#.XlfJtmhKg2w On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:16 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Here is some encouraging news. Look carefully at these graphs, especially > the last two: > > Serious and Critical Cases > > Outcome of Cases (Recovery or Death) > > https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/ > > Note that the first graph, "Total Cases (worldwide)" can be changed to the > logarithmic format on the top tab. > > > Main page: > > https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ > > > Meanwhile, in bad news, the Japanese press reports that some recovered > patients may not be fully immune. >
