Re: [Vo]:Ed Storm's and thermionic generators

2008-01-22 Thread Nick Palmer
Frank,

You need to generate some testable hypotheses from your theory - say a 
situation in which stimulating a process with 90%, 100% and 110% of your 
frequency x size relationship would yield a clear signal that the 1.094 figure 
is significantly different from the other two at achieving some unexpected 
result. Then people may listen.


Nick

[Vo]:Ed Storm's and thermionic generators

2008-01-22 Thread FZNIDARSIC
 
 
 
Nick Palmer
Tue, 22 Jan 2008  01:26:26 -0800

Frank,



You need to generate some testable hypotheses from your theory - say a 

situation in which stimulating a process with 90%, 100% and 110% of your 

frequency x size relationship would yield a clear signal that the 1.094 
figure 

is significantly different from the other two at achieving some unexpected 

result. Then people may listen.





Nick
 
...
I know that I need experimental results.  I have done many experiments.
None of these has produced excess energy.  If I produced electrical energy
directly from a cold fusion experiment that would change to world.  To date
I have not been able to do it.  My relationship tells me some things.
If the stimulation frequency is ten megahertz the palladium wire needs to
1/10 of a meter in length.  I have found that there is more to it than that.
Loading is an issue I cant resolve.  Just because the wire is 1/10 of meter
long does not guarantee the coherence length will extend for 1/10 of a meter.
We need a national program on these things, not just me with a little time
off doing some quick experiments. 

Frank Z





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[Vo]:Ed Storm's and thermionic generators

2008-01-21 Thread FZNIDARSIC
Ed Stoms mentions in the video that electrical production may be possible  
with thermal to electric generations.  These would be of very low  efficiency 
and not suitable for your cell phone.  I believe that without  the lack of a 
proper theory, he has missed the main point.
 
I asked Ed a few years back, Did anyone try radio frequency  stimulation?  
He said someone did and it did not work. Did not work  to produce thermal 
energy, maybe.   I tried to present Miley with a  disclosure on my the radio 
frequency technique a few years back.  He did  not accept the disclosure.  I am 
still mum about the details.
 
I did not believe that high energy exits the cold fusion process and  then 
degrades through a process of collision.   I believe that process  takes place 
at thermal energy.  The connection with the thermal stimulation  is clear.  
This thermal energy is orders of magnitude removed from nuclear  energy.  The 
heat of a supernova is required to transform  lead.  One more order of 
magnitude 
shift downward and we have radio  energy.  We can, through the use of diode, 
convert this radio energy  directly to electrical energy.  My theorem,  The 
constants of the  motion tend toward the electromagnetic in a Bose condensate 
that is stimulated  at the dimensional frequency of  1.094 megahertz meters 
shows the  way.  With an adjustment of the domain and the frequency the 
greatest  
potential of the process will be realized.
 
I'm going to try it again with my non existent lab and my non existent  
funding.
 
Frank Znidarsic



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Re: [Vo]:Ed Storm's and thermionic generators

2008-01-21 Thread Edmund Storms



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ed Stoms mentions in the video that electrical production may be 
possible with thermal to electric generations.  These would be of very 
low efficiency and not suitable for your cell phone.  I believe that 
without the lack of a proper theory, he has missed the main point.


Thermoelectric converters are being explored by several companies and 
are getting sufficiently efficient, especially because the CF fuel is 
essentially free.  The main point of the talk was to show that the 
effect is real. A proper theory is needed and will gradually be 
developed when sufficient experimental data has accumulated. Right now 
most of the experimental data is worthless as the basis for a theory. 
However, it has great value to show that the effect is real. We need to 
learn how to crawl we before we can run.
 
I asked Ed a few years back, Did anyone try radio frequency 
stimulation?  He said someone did and it did not work. Did not work to 
produce thermal energy, maybe.   I tried to present Miley with a 
disclosure on my the radio frequency technique a few years back.  He did 
not accept the disclosure.  I am still mum about the details.


Unless you can show the details, no one will take your idea seriously. 
You can't make a buck just from ideas, so why keep them secret? This is 
especially true because most ideas have no reality at all, except to the 
originator.


Regards,
Ed
 
I did not believe that high energy exits the cold fusion process and 
then degrades through a process of collision.   I believe that process 
takes place at thermal energy.  The connection with the thermal 
stimulation is clear.  This thermal energy is orders of magnitude 
removed from nuclear energy.  The heat of a supernova is required to 
transform lead.  One more order of magnitude shift downward and we have 
radio energy.  We can, through the use of diode, convert this radio 
energy directly to electrical energy.  My theorem,  The constants of 
the motion tend toward the electromagnetic in a Bose condensate that is 
stimulated at the dimensional frequency of  1.094 megahertz meters 
shows the way.  With an adjustment of the domain and the frequency the 
greatest potential of the process will be realized.
 
I'm going to try it again with my non existent lab and my non existent 
funding.
 
Frank Znidarsic





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[Vo]:Ed Storm's and thermionic generators

2008-01-21 Thread FZNIDARSIC
Unless you can show the details, no one will take your  idea seriously. You 
can't make a buck just from ideas, so why keep them  secret? This is especially 
true because most ideas have no reality at  all, except to the originator. 
Regards,

Ed

 
The efficiency of thermo generators is limited by the laws of thermodynamics. 
 

If you have a temperature drop of about 100 degrees the efficiency is only a
few percent.  
 
Is the stimulation is a basic part of the process or side bar of the NDE.  
This is subject
to rational thought.  I (like Jed) am a humanist and believe in rational 
thought.  
If energy cascaded from the nucleus to the  lattice there would be a huge 
irreversibility.
 
The process is reversible.  The more heat the more energy that is produced.  
The reversible nature of the process
indicates that the source of the heat has the about the same entropy as the 
heat that is detected.  The thermal stimulation, 
laser stimulation, and shock are a basic part of the nuclear process.
 
The process  involves energies at the transmutation  of lead and thermal 
energy  (mega and fractions of an ev) . 
What couples these energies?  Should there not be another accessible energy?
Laser and thermal stimulation have a low quantity factor.  Most of the energy 
is scattered across the black body spectrum.
RF stimulation can have a very high Q at a specific frequency.  I have tried 
this, however, I was not able to obtain the 
required loading.
 
I do believe that cold fusion has tremendous potential at high Q's in the RF 
range.  The RF energy that would be produced is
of high value.  No conversion to thermal energy is required.
 
I have been saying this for years.  The result springs from my theoretical 
construct.  No one has produced results in this area
Perhaps I am dead wrong.
 
I really believe this for a number of reasons.  My megahertz meter constant 
has produced the energy levels of the atom, the 
energy of a photon and the probability of atomic decay.  This work stands on 
its own apart from the process of cold fusion.
Chapters 11 and 12.
 
_http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html_ 
(http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html) 
 
The rational construct that springs from these concepts has provided a 
reconciliation of Special Relativity and quantum physics.
 
_http://www.wbabin.net/science/znidarsic.pdf_ 
(http://www.wbabin.net/science/znidarsic.pdf) 
 
 
Unfortunately I am alone in my work.  Mallove did publish parts of it.  My 
last paper was totally rejected by IE. 
I believe that Chubb did me in. I have not submitted a paper since.  
 
 
 
 
 
 

Frank Znidarsic
 
 
 
 
 




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