Re: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?

[Eric Walker]

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Stephen Cooke 
wrote:

[Quoting an abstract:] In spite of the fact that the X-ray surface
> brightness is estimated to be at nearly CXB (Cosmic X-ray Background)
> level, the X-ray spectrum shows significant deviations in relation to Al-K
> and Si-K fluorescence X-rays.


Aluminum (26Al, trace) has electron capture as a decay mode and silicon
(32Si, trace) has beta decay as a decay mode.  Silicon was discussed a few
weeks ago on this list in connection with ball lightning.  To hazard a
mechanism: cosmic rays or unattenuated solar x-rays may be triggering these
decay modes in aluminium and silicon on the surface of the moon.

As a follow on to this study, additional characteristic lines to look for
would be K-K or K-L lines for potassium (40K, 0.012 percent), which has
both electron capture and beta decay as decay modes.

Eric

RE: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?

[Jones Beene]

The ROSAT satellite has picked up lunar X-rays for many years, according to
this site. 

 

http://www.mpe.mpg.de/xray/wave/rosat/publications/highlights/moon.php

"A careful analysis of the observed signal from the dark moon shows it to be
~ 30 times larger than expected" - it has been suggested that this excess
intensity is caused by Bremsstrahlung from "supra-thermal electrons" hitting
the lunar surface from space, but the electrons could be from anywhere,
including LENR.

 

 

From: Stephen Cooke 

 

OK OK. I know this thought and question way way out there... and probably
puts me in the lunatic fringe. I Apolo-gise for that ;) Sorry couldn't
resist.

 

I wonder if there is evidence of LENR on the moon or LUNAR LENR?

 

The moon is:

 

1. In vacuum 

2. Has had many thermal cycles (quite long though ~ about 1 month) for
billions of years.

3. Is constantly undergoing ion bombardment from the solar wind etc.

4. Is covered in Moon dust that may have characteristics similar to nano
particles 

5. Contains elements and minerals that may be implicated in LENR.

 

Could it be that the surface layer contains modified isotope ratios that
could be accounted for by LENR? 

 

I imagine these kind of isotope analysis of LUNAR material have been widely
done but I'm not sure if any Isotope ratios different than those on earth
have been identified. If they have perhaps they have been attributed to
outgassing of lighter nuclei etc.

 

I suppose to be sure it would make sense to compare with sources below the
surface, perhaps drilled samples. Didn't the recent "Jade Rabbit" rover from
china make drilled samples? I wonder what it showed up.

 

Have X-ray emissions been detected from the moon?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?

[Stephen Cooke]

I agree with much you say Axil. As usual you put important things together and 
when I think about what you say I see you put a lot of consideration into your 
ideas. 
With the moon however I'm more wondering about a surface effect.

On a separate point that maybe you could answer: Regarding HRM, UDH or UHH 
would you by chance have some idea what the electron density or associated 
electron plasma frequency would by in these materials? Perhaps it is more 
complex if we consider Surface or Bulk Plasmons? or in particular SPP?
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 11:39:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?
From: janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Unless science understands how LENR produces heat inside planets, they will be 
faced with mounting numbers of unsolvable cosmological conundrums. Scientists 
shocked to find Mercury has liquid metal core and a magnetic field like 
EarthMAY 13, 2015 BY DAN TAYLORScientists shocked to find Mercury has liquid 
metal core and a magnetic field like EarthNASA's MESSENGER spacecraft smashed 
into the planet's surface on April 30after four years in orbit, but not before 
sending back some amazing data.Scientists were floored recently after getting 
back data from NASA’s MESSENGER space probe that showed that Mercury has a core 
filled with sloshing liquid metal, much like Earth — and they’re scratching 
their heads as to how that’s possible.Mercury had been thought to be too small 
to have a liquid core, as scientists believed the metal would have cooled 
relatively quickly in its history, but the MESSENGER space probe sent back data 
before slamming into the planet onApril 30 that indicated that yes, its core 
still contains molten metal, and that metal is creating a magnetic field 
similar to that of Earth, according to a Space.com report.It’s nowhere near as 
powerful — scientists estimate that it is 100 times weaker than Earth’s. But 
the findings still surprised scientists who thought they would find a solid 
rock core much like the other rocky planets in our solar system. The findings 
shed new light on the evolution of Mercury, the closest planet to the sun and 
the smallest planet in the solar system, and will force scientists to rethink 
how it developed.The five factors that might contribute to the formation of 
hydrogen Rydberg matter (HRM) are as follows: Electropositive catalytic 
activity (i.e. lithium, potassium, calcium oxide, rare earth oxides), The low 
work function of this material seems to be important in HRM catalytic activity. 
This includes graphite (arxiv.org/pdf/1501.05056v1.pdf) In the Lugano report, 
there was a coating of rare earths on the nickel fuel particles. This might be 
related to reducing the work functions of the nickel particles as a result of 
rare earth oxides in the fuel. High pressure produced by flaws in the crystal 
structure of metal (i.e. nickel)Electrostatic field produced by pointy 
nanostructures. Hexagonal crystal structure that provides a quantum mechanical 
template for HRM formation. A long timeframe – this speaks to the fact that HRM 
is driven by probability causation similar to radioactive decay. Once HRM is 
formed, it remains active for a long time if it is kept inside the reactor core 
using containment of a magnetic material.andIf you take a look at the latest 
data from the Pluto flyby, you can see another cosmologic mystery rear its head 
that can be well explained by metalized hydrogen as a LENR heat 
source.sciencemag.org/news/2015/07/pluto-alive-where-heat-comingPluto is 
alive—but where is the heat coming from? 
space.com/29968-pluto-charon-photos-active-icy-worlds.htmlNew Photos of Pluto 
and Moon Surprise, Puzzle ScientistsThere is a tremendous amount of heat coming 
from the interior of Pluto and its small satellite; so much so, that the 
surface of Pluto is resurfaced by the eruption of ice from the interior of 
Pluto. Also there is a constant replenishment of the nitrogen atmosphere of 
Pluto from the interior.The standard causes given for planetary heat production 
does not apply, that being heat from the sun, radioactive decay, and friction 
caused by tidal stretching. Furthermore, there is evidence that other smaller 
free standing bodies in the Kuiper belt sometimes called the Edgeworth–Kuiper 
belt, are at the far edge of the solar system are producing their own internal 
heat.Although to date most KBOs still appear spectrally featureless due to 
their faintness, there have been a number of successes in determining their 
composition. In 1996, Robert H. Brown et al. obtained spectroscopic data on the 
KBO 1993 SC, revealing its surface composition to be markedly similar to that 
of Pluto, as well as Neptune's moon Triton, possessing large amounts of methane 
ice. Water ice has been detected in several the Kuiper belt objects (KBO)s, 
including 1996 TO66, 38628 Huya and 2 Varuna. In 2004, Mike Brown et al. 
determined the existence of crystalline water ice and ammonia hydrateon one

RE: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?

[Stephen Cooke]

Hmmm 
Interesting paper: 
DETECTION OF X-RAY FLUORESCENCE LINE FEATURE FROM THE LUNAR SURFACE
1234 Y. Kamata , T. Takeshima , T. Okada , and K. Terada

http://www.u.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp/uxge/publication/pdf/kamata99_2.pdf.







Here is the abstract:







2


We present the results of an analysis 
by ASCA (Japanese X-ray astronomy satellite)
observation of the lunar surface on July 10th - 11th, 1993. In spite of the 
fact that the
X-ray surface brightness is estimated to be at nearly CXB (Cosmic X-ray 
Background) level,
the X-ray spectrum shows significant deviations in relation to Al-K 
and Si-K 
fluorescence
X-rays. According to the intensity ratios of Al/Si (1-2) and Mg/Si (<0.4), the 
properties of
the X-ray spectrum is consistent with an intermediate abundance ratio between 
highlands and
mares (or relatively similar to highland values). However, the X-ray 
illuminated region on
the lunar surface are mainly covered with mare regions and the emission of Al-K 
and Si-K
fluorescence arises from both day side and night side region of the moon. These 
facts
indicate the existence of X-ray production due to bremsstrahlung, with high 
energy particles
impacting even on the night side. 




From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 17:32:36 +0100
Subject: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?




OK OK… I know this thought and question way way out there... and probably puts 
me in the lunatic fringe… I Apolo-gise for that ;) Sorry couldn't resist.
I wonder if there is evidence of LENR on the moon or LUNAR LENR?
The moon is:
1. In vacuum 2. Has had many thermal cycles (quite long though ~ about 1 month) 
for billions of years.3. Is constantly undergoing ion bombardment from the 
solar wind etc.4. Is covered in Moon dust that may have characteristics similar 
to nano particles 5. Contains elements and minerals that may be implicated in 
LENR.
Could it be that the surface layer contains modified isotope ratios that could 
be accounted for by LENR? 
I imagine these kind of isotope analysis of LUNAR material have been widely 
done but I'm not sure if any Isotope ratios different than those on earth have 
been identified. If they have perhaps they have been attributed to outgassing 
of lighter nuclei etc.
I suppose to be sure it would make sense to compare with sources below the 
surface, perhaps drilled samples. Didn't the recent "Jade Rabbit" rover from 
china make drilled samples? I wonder what it showed up.
Have X-ray emissions been detected from the moon?





 





  

Re: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?

[Axil Axil]

Unless science understands how LENR produces heat inside planets, they will
be faced with mounting numbers of unsolvable cosmological conundrums.

Scientists shocked to find Mercury has liquid metal core and a magnetic
field like Earth
MAY 13, 2015 BY DAN TAYLOR



Scientists shocked to find Mercury has liquid metal core and a magnetic
field like Earth

NASA's MESSENGER spacecraft smashed into the planet's surface on April
30after four years in orbit, but not before sending back some amazing data.

Scientists were floored recently after getting back data from NASA’s
MESSENGER space probe that showed that Mercury has a core filled with
sloshing liquid metal, much like Earth — and they’re scratching their heads
as to how that’s possible.

Mercury had been thought to be too small to have a liquid core, as
scientists believed the metal would have cooled relatively quickly in its
history, but the MESSENGER space probe sent back data before slamming into
the planet onApril 30 that indicated that yes, its core still contains
molten metal, and that metal is creating a magnetic field similar to that
of Earth, according to a Space.com report.

It’s nowhere near as powerful — scientists estimate that it is 100 times
weaker than Earth’s. But the findings still surprised scientists who
thought they would find a solid rock core much like the other rocky planets
in our solar system. The findings shed new light on the evolution of
Mercury, the closest planet to the sun and the smallest planet in the solar
system, and will force scientists to rethink how it developed.

The five factors that might contribute to the formation of hydrogen Rydberg
matter (HRM) are as follows:

Electropositive catalytic activity (i.e. lithium, potassium, calcium oxide,
rare earth oxides), The low work function of this material seems to be
important in HRM catalytic activity. This includes graphite (
arxiv.org/pdf/1501.05056v1.pdf)

In the Lugano report, there was a coating of rare earths on the nickel fuel
particles. This might be related to reducing the work functions of the
nickel particles as a result of rare earth oxides in the fuel.

High pressure produced by flaws in the crystal structure of metal (i.e.
nickel)

Electrostatic field produced by pointy nanostructures.

Hexagonal crystal structure that provides a quantum mechanical template for
HRM formation.

A long timeframe – this speaks to the fact that HRM is driven by
probability causation similar to radioactive decay.

Once HRM is formed, it remains active for a long time if it is kept inside
the reactor core using containment of a magnetic material.

and

If you take a look at the latest data from the Pluto flyby, you can see
another cosmologic mystery rear its head that can be well explained by
metalized hydrogen as a LENR heat source.

sciencemag.org/news/2015/07/pluto-alive-where-heat-coming


Pluto is alive—but where is the heat coming from?
space.com/29968-pluto-charon-photos-active-icy-worlds.html


New Photos of Pluto and Moon Surprise, Puzzle Scientists

There is a tremendous amount of heat coming from the interior of Pluto and
its small satellite; so much so, that the surface of Pluto is resurfaced by
the eruption of ice from the interior of Pluto. Also there is a constant
replenishment of the nitrogen atmosphere of Pluto from the interior.

The standard causes given for planetary heat production does not apply,
that being heat from the sun, radioactive decay, and friction caused by
tidal stretching. Furthermore, there is evidence that other smaller free
standing bodies in the Kuiper belt sometimes called the Edgeworth–Kuiper
belt, are at the far edge of the solar system are producing their own
internal heat.

Although to date most KBOs still appear spectrally featureless due to their
faintness, there have been a number of successes in determining their
composition. In 1996, Robert H. Brown et al. obtained spectroscopic data on
the KBO 1993 SC, revealing its surface composition to be markedly similar
to that of Pluto, as well as Neptune's moon Triton, possessing large
amounts of methane ice.

Water ice has been detected in several the Kuiper belt objects (KBO)s,
including 1996 TO66, 38628 Huya and 2 Varuna. In 2004, Mike Brown et
al. determined the existence of crystalline water ice and ammonia hydrateon
one of the largest known KBOs, 5 Quaoar. Both of these substances would
have been destroyed over the age of the Solar System, suggesting that
Quaoar had been recently resurfaced, either by unexplained internal
tectonic activity or by meteorite impacts.

In my opinion, LENR based on metallized hydrogen is a possible answer to
these strange cosmological conundrums.

I agree with Ed Storms that the many experiments in LENR show that this
strange process is basically produced among other things by imperfections
in the lattice 

[Vo]:Lunar LENR?

[Stephen Cooke]

OK OK… I know this thought and question way way out there... and probably puts 
me in the lunatic fringe… I Apolo-gise for that ;) Sorry couldn't resist.
I wonder if there is evidence of LENR on the moon or LUNAR LENR?
The moon is:
1. In vacuum 2. Has had many thermal cycles (quite long though ~ about 1 month) 
for billions of years.3. Is constantly undergoing ion bombardment from the 
solar wind etc.4. Is covered in Moon dust that may have characteristics similar 
to nano particles 5. Contains elements and minerals that may be implicated in 
LENR.
Could it be that the surface layer contains modified isotope ratios that could 
be accounted for by LENR? 
I imagine these kind of isotope analysis of LUNAR material have been widely 
done but I'm not sure if any Isotope ratios different than those on earth have 
been identified. If they have perhaps they have been attributed to outgassing 
of lighter nuclei etc.
I suppose to be sure it would make sense to compare with sources below the 
surface, perhaps drilled samples. Didn't the recent "Jade Rabbit" rover from 
china make drilled samples? I wonder what it showed up.
Have X-ray emissions been detected from the moon?