[Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
A few days ago there was a breif mention of Nicholas Moller and his work on MAHG The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce. Is anyone aware of the statis of any work on this system? On 15/01/2012 16:28, Jay Caplan wrote: Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that makes internal combustion the best choice for most transportation. Steam engines and condensers for light transportation are just not feasible. - Original Message - From:mix...@bigpond.com To:vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500: Hi, [snip] Turbines are kind of slow to respond to controls. Jet engine aircraft are less responsive than propeller-driven ones. There was a gas turbine automobile prototype in the 1970s. I do not know what it was like to drive. It made a heck of a noise, I think. There have been gas turbine powered race cars, so the response can't have been too bad. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
Apologies... The appended text on the previous posting was not intended. I have changed to a different mail client which did not behave quite as I was expecting Nigel Dyer On 15/01/2012 16:51, Nigel Dyer wrote: A few days ago there was a breif mention of Nicholas Moller and his work on MAHG The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce. Is anyone aware of the statis of any work on this system?
RE: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising You could try Frolov - the co-inventor http://www.faraday.ru/ah.html -Original Message- From: Nigel Dyer A few days ago there was a brief mention of Nicholas Moller and his work on MAHG The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce. Is anyone aware of the status of any work on this system?
Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising You could try Frolov - the co-inventor http://www.faraday.ru/ah.html Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you. T
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising If 1/100 of what Naudin claims were true, he would be rich beyond his imagination. Naudin creates lovely art work and take beautiful photos of his often dangerous creations. But properly tested, they can't do what he claims or else he would be very famous and he's virtually unknown outside the small crew that follows free energy claims.
Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500: Hi, [snip] Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you. T I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500: Hi, [snip] Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you. T I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts. Eh? I was speaking of the energy per atom, not the voltage required. T Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500: Hi, [snip] Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you. T I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts. Eh? I was speaking of the energy per atom, not the voltage required. You mean a few eV x 10-3? T
Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:12:39 -0500: Hi Terry, [snip] On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500: Hi, [snip] Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you. T I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts. Eh? I was speaking of the energy per atom, not the voltage required. Sorry, that should have been meV. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
RE: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
Is this a trick question? Why would it be greater? AFAIK all the isotopes of hydrogen have the identical dissociation energy: HH, DD, HD, TT, TH, TD They are all 4.8 eV, no? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation energy of deuterium on the web and have not found it readily available. I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you. T
Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Is this a trick question? Why would it be greater? AFAIK all the isotopes of hydrogen have the identical dissociation energy: HH, DD, HD, TT, TH, TD They are all 4.8 eV, no? I don't know. I simply can't find anything on the web that I can access (for free). Would their ionization energies be different? If not, why are there so many papers in the past few years studying the ionization and dissociation energies? Just puzzled. T