[Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Nigel Dyer
A few days ago there was a breif mention of Nicholas Moller and his work 
on MAHG


The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and 
emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce.


Is anyone aware of the statis of any work on this system?


On 15/01/2012 16:28, Jay Caplan wrote:

Gas is the operative term. It is the expanding gas that makes internal
combustion the best choice for most transportation. Steam engines and
condensers for light transportation are just not feasible.

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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, Jan 6 2012, Topic: ENERGY


In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:20:46 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]

Turbines are kind of slow to respond to controls. Jet engine aircraft are
less responsive than propeller-driven ones. There was a gas turbine
automobile prototype in the 1970s. I do not know what it was like to drive.
It made a heck of a noise, I think.

There have been gas turbine powered race cars, so the response can't have
been
too bad.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html







Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Nigel Dyer
Apologies...   The appended text on the previous posting was not 
intended.  I have changed to a different mail client which did not 
behave quite as I was expecting


Nigel Dyer

On 15/01/2012 16:51, Nigel Dyer wrote:
A few days ago there was a breif mention of Nicholas Moller and his 
work on MAHG


The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and 
emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce.


Is anyone aware of the statis of any work on this system?




RE: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Jones Beene
Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising

You could try Frolov - the co-inventor

http://www.faraday.ru/ah.html



-Original Message-
From: Nigel Dyer 

 A few days ago there was a brief mention of Nicholas Moller and his 
 work on MAHG

 The two websites that I have found both seem to date from 2005 and 
 emails to the addresses on these websites seem to bounce.

 Is anyone aware of the status of any work on this system?





Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising

 You could try Frolov - the co-inventor

 http://www.faraday.ru/ah.html

Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and  have not found it readily
available.  I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and
dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you.

T



Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Naudin/Moller seem to have given up research, in favor of fundraising


If 1/100 of what Naudin claims were true, he would be rich beyond his
imagination.  Naudin creates lovely art work and take beautiful photos of
his often dangerous creations.  But properly tested, they can't do what he
claims or else he would be very famous and he's virtually unknown outside
the small crew that follows free energy claims.


Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread mixent
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and  have not found it readily
available.  I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and
dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you.

T

I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM,  mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
 In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
 Hi,
 [snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and  have not found it readily
available.  I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and
dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you.

T

 I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts.

Eh?  I was speaking of the energy per atom, not the voltage required.

T

 Regards,

 Robin van Spaandonk

 http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html




Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM,  mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
 In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
 Hi,
 [snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and  have not found it readily
available.  I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and
dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you.

T

 I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts.

 Eh?  I was speaking of the energy per atom, not the voltage required.

You mean a few eV x 10-3?

T



Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread mixent
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:12:39 -0500:
Hi Terry,
[snip]
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM,  mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
 In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:04:14 -0500:
 Hi,
 [snip]
Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and  have not found it readily
available.  I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and
dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you.

T

 I wouldn't expect it to differ from that of H2 by more than a few millivolts.

Eh?  I was speaking of the energy per atom, not the voltage required.

Sorry, that should have been meV.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



RE: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Jones Beene
Is this a trick question? Why would it be greater?

AFAIK all the isotopes of hydrogen have the identical dissociation energy:

HH, DD, HD, TT, TH, TD 

They are all 4.8 eV, no?



-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

Speaking of, I have been searching for the molecular dissociation
energy of deuterium on the web and  have not found it readily
available.  I would think that it is greater than 4.8 eV and there
seems to be a good deal of recent research on the ionization and
dissociation energy of D; but, it doesn't just pop out at you.

T





Re: [Vo]:Nicholas Moller and MAHG

2012-01-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Is this a trick question? Why would it be greater?

 AFAIK all the isotopes of hydrogen have the identical dissociation energy:

 HH, DD, HD, TT, TH, TD

 They are all 4.8 eV, no?

I don't know.  I simply can't find anything on the web that I can
access (for free).  Would their ionization energies be different?  If
not, why are there so many papers in the past few years studying the
ionization and dissociation energies?

Just puzzled.

T