Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Craig Haynie]

"Energy is roughly 10Wh"

They're saying it will self-recharge indefinitely.

Craig


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Teslaalset 
wrote:

> Price is 1200 Euro
> Power generation is 0.4W
> Energy is roughly 10Wh
> Weight is 300 grams, most of it is due to the aluminum casing.
> Even in a Feraday cage the device works.
> It’s not sensitive to geographic orientation.
> They have a granted patent on this.
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm watching the replay of the webinar, at
>>  https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153326632242672/
>>
>> when I tuned in to the actual broadcast, they said, 2.1amps, two full
>> recharges of a smartphone, then 24 hours to recharge in case the battery
>> ran out.
>>
>> Did I get it right, Craig? I stand corrected if I got it wrong.
>>
>> Oh, and the price? 1200€.
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Bob Higgins]

That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1
year.  And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still
produce 10WH / day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery
will probably only last about 2 years.  That is a total of about 3.6kWH of
electricity, or about $3.60 worth for $1300 for the device.  It may be
worth the price as an experiment demonstrating the novel physics involved,
but for nothing else.  If it really does involve new physics, the cost
would have to decline by a factor of >100 before it would have an impact on
society.  Keep in mind that you could provide the same daily energy from a
couple of solar cells and a voltage boosting inverter for less than $10 in
parts if you are looking or an emergency phone charger.  And the solar
charger would weigh less and last longer.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Craig Haynie 
wrote:

> "Energy is roughly 10Wh"
>
> They're saying it will self-recharge indefinitely.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Teslaalset 
> wrote:
>
>> Price is 1200 Euro
>> Power generation is 0.4W
>> Energy is roughly 10Wh
>> Weight is 300 grams, most of it is due to the aluminum casing.
>> Even in a Feraday cage the device works.
>> It’s not sensitive to geographic orientation.
>> They have a granted patent on this.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I'm watching the replay of the webinar, at
>>>  https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153326632242672/
>>>
>>> when I tuned in to the actual broadcast, they said, 2.1amps, two full
>>> recharges of a smartphone, then 24 hours to recharge in case the battery
>>> ran out.
>>>
>>> Did I get it right, Craig? I stand corrected if I got it wrong.
>>>
>>> Oh, and the price? 1200€.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

It could be coincidental that the ADGEX product is shipping at the same time or 
a little ahead of Steorn. The performance claims are very similar. 

Fortunately, I’m only out $99 if it doesn’t work. I got notice to expect the 
product next week.

If both ADGEX and Steorn are not the promoting the same or very similar 
technology – which is a form of self-charging capacitance - it would be 
mind-boggling. Perhaps the Steorn device also has a lithium battery to account 
for its higher cost.

Now ADGEX has a home lighting system which they claim is grid independent.
http://trade.adgex.com.au/

Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a fair 
probability of having some kind of breakthrough, whereas Steorn has already 
proved to be little more than scam artists on two separate occasions. What are 
Blaze’s odds on this one?

From: Bob Higgins 

That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1 year.  
And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still produce 10WH 
/ day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery will probably only 
last about 2 years.  

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

It could be coincidental that the ADGEX product is shipping at the same time or 
a little ahead of Steorn. The performance claims are very similar. 

 

Fortunately, I’m only out $99 if it doesn’t work. I got notice to expect the 
product next week.

 

If both ADGEX and Steorn are not the same or very similar technology – which is 
a form of self-charging capacitance - it would be mind-boggling. Perhaps the 
Steorn device also has a lithium battery to account for its higher cost.

 

Now ADGEX has a home lighting system which they claim is grid independent.

http://trade.adgex.com.au/

 

Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a fair 
probability of having some kind of breakthrough, whereas Steorn has already 
proved to be little more than scam artists on two separate occasions. What are 
Blaze’s odds on this one?

 

From: Bob Higgins 

 

That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1 year.  
And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still produce 10WH 
/ day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery will probably only 
last about 2 years.  That is a total of about 3.6kWH of electricity, or about 
$3.60 worth for $1300 for the device.  It may be worth the price as an 
experiment demonstrating the novel physics involved, but for nothing else.  If 
it really does involve new physics, the cost would have to decline by a factor 
of >100 before it would have an impact on society.  Keep in mind that you could 
provide the same daily energy from a couple of solar cells and a voltage 
boosting inverter for less than $10 in parts if you are looking or an emergency 
phone charger.  And the solar charger would weigh less and last longer.

 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Craig Haynie  wrote:

"Energy is roughly 10Wh"

They're saying it will self-recharge indefinitely.

Craig

 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Teslaalset  wrote:

Price is 1200 Euro

Power generation is 0.4W

Energy is roughly 10Wh

Weight is 300 grams, most of it is due to the aluminum casing. 

Even in a Feraday cage the device works. 

It’s not sensitive to geographic orientation. 

They have a granted patent on this. 

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:

Well, I'm watching the replay of the webinar, at

 https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153326632242672/

 

when I tuned in to the actual broadcast, they said, 2.1amps, two full recharges 
of a smartphone, then 24 hours to recharge in case the battery ran out.

 

Did I get it right, Craig? I stand corrected if I got it wrong.

 

Oh, and the price? 1200€.

 

 

 

 

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[esa ruoho]

I'm confused.

Steorn have specifically mentioned Liquid Solutions, an E-Cig producing company 
that does E-Juices for electronic cigarettes - they are Steorn's first 
licensees, and they are coming out with a self-charging E-Cigarette device. - 
here's their press-release: 
http://www.wickedejuice.com/content/41-liquid-solutions-prepares-to-bring-the-orbo-never-die-battery-to-market

They've also sent the E-Cube devices to Brick Bear Clothing, and to Rabbit Hole 
Promotions - both are companies that specialize in either guerrilla marketing 
or better / more widespread social media activities to promote their products 
and skills.

And next week we'll hear about future R and additional licensees.

Wasn't it mentioned by Craig that they have a patent on their device.


(Liquid Solutions press-release here:)
27 October 2015

Embargoed until 7pm GMT, 28 October 2015

 

Liquid Solutions Prepares to bring the Orbo 'never die' battery to market

Register for webinar http://app.webinarjam.net/register/19428/91401be0a7



Liquid Solutions, the only Irish producer of certified e juice for e 
cigarettes, today announces it has licensed the revolutionary Orbo battery 
technology from Steorn to deliver an e cigarette that never needs charging.



Waterford based Liquid Solutions, the makers of Wicked e-juice, has been 
working with Steorn for the past three years to bring the never-die Orbo 
battery to market. This revolutionary move will allow consumers of e cigarettes 
never to charge the batteries in their e cigarettes again. In three short 
years, Liquid Solutions has created a battery small enough to fit into an e 
cigarette and still retain the self charging properties of Orbo.



Killian McGrath, founder of Liquid Solutions, recognized the impact of Orbo 
when first presented with the technology. The never die battery is the holy 
grail of all mobile device manufacturers. Increasingly people travel with 
energy banks, in-car chargers and charging points in public places.  To replace 
the humble battery with an ever-charged Orbo battery is to revolutionize the 
mobile populace.  Now the vaping community need never worry about charging 
their Wicked e cigarettes. We have a market winner.’

Dublin based Steorn headed up by Shaun McCarthy has enjoyed a roller coaster 
ride since its inception fifteen years ago. Their discovery of a constant 
energy source has attracted worldwide interest and criticism. Tonight (28 
October 2015, 7pm GMT) the company is beginning a series of webinars 
introducing their Orbo never die battery. As part of that process, the 
partnership with Liquid Solutions will be broadcast.




In terms of timing, Liquid Solutions intends having its first Orbo vaping 
products available to the Irish marketplace within the next six months. The 
never die batteries will be available to purchase from www.Wickedejuice.com

.

Ends



For more information, please visit www.Wickedejuice.com

Or contact me...@wickedejuice.com
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> On 29 Oct 2015, at 17:47, Bob Higgins  wrote:
> 
> It is absurd then for Steorn to have invested in the marketing and 
> engineering to bring it out as a marketized/productized "cube" format with 
> its own brand as they have done.  These are tactics to sell a consumer 
> product.  If they want licencees, then they must have a patent portfolio 
> locking up the technology, publish journal papers on the technology, and then 
> sell demonstration systems that allow the potential investors to SEE how the 
> technology works - not have to tear it open to SEE it in action.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Teslaalset  > wrote:
> Bob, this is not targeted at end-consumers, but potential licensees, to allow 
> evaluation of their granted patent and potential trade secrets included in 
> the license deal. These prototypes also will allow those who want to 
> understand the physics, e.g. universities. What they currently show is far 
> from matured applications and integration. The first home VCR also weighted 
> 15Kg. I'd like my mobile phone having this technology embedded. 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Bob Higgins  > wrote:
> That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1 
> year.  And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still 
> produce 10WH / day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery will 
> probably only last about 2 years.  

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[esa ruoho]

I'm pretty ready to wager that Steorn and ADGEX are using completely different 
technologies.
Btw, Jones, did you really get a notification that the ADGEX ELFE product is 
being shipped next week? I'd better get my orders in, then. 
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> On 29 Oct 2015, at 17:14, Jones Beene  wrote:
> 
> It could be coincidental that the ADGEX product is shipping at the same time 
> or a little ahead of Steorn. The performance claims are very similar.
> 
> Fortunately, I’m only out $99 if it doesn’t work. I got notice to expect the 
> product next week.
> If both ADGEX and Steorn are not the promoting the same or very similar 
> technology – which is a form of self-charging capacitance - it would be 
> mind-boggling. Perhaps the Steorn device also has a lithium battery to 
> account for its higher cost.
> Now ADGEX has a home lighting system which they claim is grid independent.
> http://trade.adgex.com.au/ 
> Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a fair 
> probability of having some kind of breakthrough, whereas Steorn has already 
> proved to be little more than scam artists on two separate occasions. What 
> are Blaze’s odds on this one?
> From: Bob Higgins
> 
> That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1 
> year.  And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still 
> produce 10WH / day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery will 
> probably only last about 2 years. 
> 

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Teslaalset]

Bob, this is not targeted at end-consumers, but potential licensees, to
allow evaluation of their granted patent and potential trade secrets
included in the license deal. These prototypes also will allow those who
want to understand the physics, e.g. universities. What they currently show
is far from matured applications and integration. The first home VCR also
weighted 15Kg. I'd like my mobile phone having this technology embedded.




On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Bob Higgins 
wrote:

> That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1
> year.  And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still
> produce 10WH / day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery
> will probably only last about 2 years.  That is a total of about 3.6kWH of
> electricity, or about $3.60 worth for $1300 for the device.  It may be
> worth the price as an experiment demonstrating the novel physics involved,
> but for nothing else.  If it really does involve new physics, the cost
> would have to decline by a factor of >100 before it would have an impact on
> society.  Keep in mind that you could provide the same daily energy from a
> couple of solar cells and a voltage boosting inverter for less than $10 in
> parts if you are looking or an emergency phone charger.  And the solar
> charger would weigh less and last longer.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Craig Haynie]

"Perhaps the Steorn device also has a lithium battery to account for its
higher cost."

Yes, they said it has a lithium battery in their presentation. Supposedly,
the battery recharges continuously.

Craig


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Teslaalset 
wrote:

> Bob, this is not targeted at end-consumers, but potential licensees, to
> allow evaluation of their granted patent and potential trade secrets
> included in the license deal. These prototypes also will allow those who
> want to understand the physics, e.g. universities. What they currently show
> is far from matured applications and integration. The first home VCR also
> weighted 15Kg. I'd like my mobile phone having this technology embedded.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Bob Higgins 
> wrote:
>
>> That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1
>> year.  And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still
>> produce 10WH / day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery
>> will probably only last about 2 years.  That is a total of about 3.6kWH of
>> electricity, or about $3.60 worth for $1300 for the device.  It may be
>> worth the price as an experiment demonstrating the novel physics involved,
>> but for nothing else.  If it really does involve new physics, the cost
>> would have to decline by a factor of >100 before it would have an impact on
>> society.  Keep in mind that you could provide the same daily energy from a
>> couple of solar cells and a voltage boosting inverter for less than $10 in
>> parts if you are looking or an emergency phone charger.  And the solar
>> charger would weigh less and last longer.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Bob Higgins]

It is absurd then for Steorn to have invested in the marketing and
engineering to bring it out as a marketized/productized "cube" format with
its own brand as they have done.  These are tactics to sell a consumer
product.  If they want licencees, then they must have a patent portfolio
locking up the technology, publish journal papers on the technology, and
then sell demonstration systems that allow the potential investors to SEE
how the technology works - not have to tear it open to SEE it in action.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Teslaalset 
wrote:

> Bob, this is not targeted at end-consumers, but potential licensees, to
> allow evaluation of their granted patent and potential trade secrets
> included in the license deal. These prototypes also will allow those who
> want to understand the physics, e.g. universities. What they currently show
> is far from matured applications and integration. The first home VCR also
> weighted 15Kg. I'd like my mobile phone having this technology embedded.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Bob Higgins 
> wrote:
>
>> That may be true, but they are only guaranteeing that it will work for 1
>> year.  And, it is not clear that they are guaranteeing that it will still
>> produce 10WH / day at the end of one year.  The internal lithium battery
>> will probably only last about 2 years.  That is a total of about 3.6kWH of
>> electricity, or about $3.60 worth for $1300 for the device.  It may be
>> worth the price as an experiment demonstrating the novel physics involved,
>> but for nothing else.  If it really does involve new physics, the cost
>> would have to decline by a factor of >100 before it would have an impact on
>> society.  Keep in mind that you could provide the same daily energy from a
>> couple of solar cells and a voltage boosting inverter for less than $10 in
>> parts if you are looking or an emergency phone charger.  And the solar
>> charger would weigh less and last longer.
>>
>

RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

From: esa ruoho 

 

Could anyone who mentioned, on the Vort list, that they've gotten a
confirmation that the items are being shipped, please shed any light on the
details of the e-mail?

 

 

 

 

As mentioned in earlier post, they sent email confirmations to me. To wit:

 

 




Dear ELFE Customers!

ADGEX Limited intimates, that your ordered ELFE flashlight will be ready for
shipping by the end of October.

Specially for you, as one of the first buyers of ELFE flashlight, ADGEX
gives 20% discount voucher for purchase of our another innovative product
TACHYON - fast-charging device for mobile devices and laptops!

We appreciate your choice!

Sincerely yours,
ADGEX

 








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Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a fair
> probability of having some kind of breakthrough,

Which Russians?

I know they won a Nobel for graphene in 2002; but, the latest
breakthrough I could find is

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1671917/watch-2-scientists-accidentally-discover-a-world-changing-super-material

I think I'll make a ultracap!

RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

> Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a 
> fair probability of having some kind of breakthrough,

Which Russians?

ADGEX
http://www.adgex.com/

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

I'm confused.

https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/156556035/ADGEX-LIMITED

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Terry Blanton  wrote:
> Oh, then which Australians?  (I thought they were Aussies.)
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Terry Blanton
>>
>>> Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a
>>> fair probability of having some kind of breakthrough,
>>
>> Which Russians?
>>
>> ADGEX
>> http://www.adgex.com/
>>

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

Oh, then which Australians?  (I thought they were Aussies.)

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Blanton
>
>> Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a
>> fair probability of having some kind of breakthrough,
>
> Which Russians?
>
> ADGEX
> http://www.adgex.com/
>

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[esa ruoho]

You know, as things go, I've tried to reach out to ADGEX using every single 
method I've figured out how to.
I've, thus far:

1- Emailed them to 3-4 different email addresses, no response.
2- Left messages on their Twitter -page (Direct Messages), no response
3- Left queries over their Facebook presences (both of the ADGEX presences). 
Chat / Messages, no response.
4- Tried to add them on LinkedIn and approach them that way, no response.
5- Added them on Skype (they added me back), left them a message, no response.
6- Called both of the phone numbers (for Australia, BTW) numerous times, no 
response.

I'm not sure how to approach them in order to reach them.

Could anyone who mentioned, on the Vort list, that they've gotten a 
confirmation that the items are being shipped, please shed any light on the 
details of the e-mail?

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> On 29 Oct 2015, at 21:10, Terry Blanton  wrote:
> 
> I'm confused.
> 
> https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/156556035/ADGEX-LIMITED
> 
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Terry Blanton  wrote:
>> Oh, then which Australians?  (I thought they were Aussies.)
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Terry Blanton
>>> 
 Easy to be skeptical of that claim but I would give the Russians a
 fair probability of having some kind of breakthrough,
>>> 
>>> Which Russians?
>>> 
>>> ADGEX
>>> http://www.adgex.com/
>>> 
> 

RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

The Australian company of the same name ADGEX is a subsidiary of the Russian 
company.

All sales to the USA are through the Aussie branch. (why? just in case Congress 
slaps an embargo on Russia?).

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Esa Ruoho]

Thanks Jonas. Ordered the flashlight.
Will you post an unboxing video or even images when you receive yours?


On 29 October 2015 at 21:58, Jones Beene  wrote:

> *From:* esa ruoho
>
>
>
> Could anyone who mentioned, on the Vort list, that they've gotten a
> confirmation that the items are being shipped, please shed any light on the
> details of the e-mail?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As mentioned in earlier post, they sent email confirmations to me. To wit:
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dear ELFE Customers!*
>
> ADGEX Limited intimates, that your ordered ELFE flashlight will be ready
> for shipping by the end of October.
>
> Specially for you, as one of the first buyers of ELFE flashlight, ADGEX
> gives 20% discount voucher for purchase of our another innovative product
> TACHYON – fast-charging device for mobile devices and laptops!
>
> *We appreciate your choice!*
>
> Sincerely yours,
> ADGEX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

Slight correction

 

Ø  I think that this tech is the outgrowth of the Nobel Prize won in 2010 by a 
couple of Russians Geim and Novoselov. Russia is slowly becoming 
entrepreneurial but they know they need to deal with local resellers in the 
marketplace. 

 

I should have added that Andre Geim is Dutch citizen born Russia. Ph.D. 1987 
from Institute of Solid State Physics, Chernogolovka, Russia. 

 

Konstantin Novoselov is British and Russian citizen, born 1974 in Russia. Ph.D. 
2004 from The Netherlands. 

 

Both Russians were professors at University of Manchester, UK when the won the 
Nobel prize for the discovery of graphene.

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Jones Beene]

Esa, If my suspicion is correct, the price will be in the 100 euro range.

 

There seems to be a close connection between Steorn, and ADGEX (an Australian 
company) and a US reseller (or two) – all of which are tied-at-the-hip to the 
same Russian supplier of a an advanced graphene ultracapacitor. As of now, 
Steorn looks like a “rebrander” of someone else’s basic technology, not a 
developer, but time will tell. 

 

I think that this tech is the outgrowth of the Nobel Prize won in 2010 by a 
couple of Russians Geim and Novoselov. Russia is slowly becoming 
entrepreneurial but they know they need to deal with local resellers in the 
marketplace. 

 

This capacitor is not OU, but it appears to be since it will recharge to some 
extent anyway, which is a feature for graphene, in general (see YouTube) and 
with simple RF induction circuitry, already in production for cell phones, the 
devices will recharge in the background.

 

From: esa ruoho 

 

Wow Craig, just read that the price of the O-Cube will be revealed today!

I sincerely hope it's in the 100s to the 200 euros, rather than 500-1000-2000+ 
euros. 

as I seriously could maybe afford that if it's <200€.

maybe.

 

http://freeenergy.news/steorn-orbo/o-cube-price-to-be-revealed-as-steorn-webinars-begin/

 

 

 

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Teslaalset]

Price is 1200 Euro
Power generation is 0.4W
Energy is roughly 10Wh
Weight is 300 grams, most of it is due to the aluminum casing.
Even in a Feraday cage the device works.
It’s not sensitive to geographic orientation.
They have a granted patent on this.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Esa Ruoho  wrote:

> Well, I'm watching the replay of the webinar, at
>  https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153326632242672/
>
> when I tuned in to the actual broadcast, they said, 2.1amps, two full
> recharges of a smartphone, then 24 hours to recharge in case the battery
> ran out.
>
> Did I get it right, Craig? I stand corrected if I got it wrong.
>
> Oh, and the price? 1200€.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Esa Ruoho]

Well, I'm watching the replay of the webinar, at
 https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153326632242672/

when I tuned in to the actual broadcast, they said, 2.1amps, two full
recharges of a smartphone, then 24 hours to recharge in case the battery
ran out.

Did I get it right, Craig? I stand corrected if I got it wrong.

Oh, and the price? 1200€.


On 28 October 2015 at 16:18, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Slight correction
>
>
>
> Ø  I think that this tech is the outgrowth of the Nobel Prize won in 2010
> by a couple of Russians Geim and Novoselov. Russia is slowly becoming
> entrepreneurial but they know they need to deal with local resellers in the
> marketplace.
>
>
>
> I should have added that Andre Geim is Dutch citizen born Russia. Ph.D.
> 1987 from Institute of Solid State Physics, Chernogolovka, Russia.
>
>
>
> Konstantin Novoselov is British and Russian citizen, born 1974 in Russia.
> Ph.D. 2004 from The Netherlands.
>
>
>
> Both Russians were professors at University of Manchester, UK when the won
> the Nobel prize for the discovery of graphene.
>



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[esa ruoho]

Wow Craig, just read that the price of the O-Cube will be revealed today!
I sincerely hope it's in the 100s to the 200 euros, rather than 500-1000-2000+ 
euros. 
as I seriously could maybe afford that if it's <200€.
maybe.

http://freeenergy.news/steorn-orbo/o-cube-price-to-be-revealed-as-steorn-webinars-begin/


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> On 28 Oct 2015, at 07:37, Craig Brown <cr...@overunity.co> wrote:
> 
> 
> Personally, I'm VERY excited and it's been a long time coming, but worth the 
> wait.
> Been following the lads at Steorn since 2006.
> Enjoying the build-up to it immensely.
> 
> I think it's interesting that no one is talking about Steorn just now, but in 
> a week or soLOL
> 
> Get ready as the impossible becomes possible.
> You heard it here first. ;)
> 
> #Orbo #Steorn #OCube #Overunity
> ---- Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
> Demonstrations
> From: Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com <mailto:esaru...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Wed, October 28, 2015 3:22 pm
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> 
> So, anyone excited at all for the Steorn O-Cube webinar starting today?
> starts in 13+ hours, at http://app.webinarjam.net/register/19428/91401be0a7 
> <http://app.webinarjam.net/register/19428/91401be0a7>
> 
> On 22 October 2015 at 23:54, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> No joy.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com <mailto:esaru...@gmail.com>>
> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>>
> Subject: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 3:43 PM
> 
> Terry, try this - the video is there
> https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/ 
> <https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/>
> 
> On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown <cr...@overunity.co 
> <mailto:cr...@overunity.co>> wrote:
> >
> > Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their
> > O-Cube
> >
> > ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4 
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4>
> 
> Returns "This Video is Private".
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1 <http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Esa Ruoho]

So, anyone excited at all for the Steorn O-Cube webinar starting today?
starts in 13+ hours, at http://app.webinarjam.net/register/19428/91401be0a7

On 22 October 2015 at 23:54, Terry Blanton  wrote:

> No joy.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Esa Ruoho" 
> To: 
> Subject: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 3:43 PM
>
> Terry, try this - the video is there
> https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/
>
> On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:
>> >
>> > Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring
>> their
>> > O-Cube
>> >
>> > ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4
>>
>> Returns "This Video is Private".
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1
>>
>>
>
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[Craig Brown]

Personally, I'm VERY excited and it's been a long time coming, but worth the wait.Been following the lads at Steorn since 2006.Enjoying the build-up to it immensely.I think it's interesting that no one is talking about Steorn just now, but in a week or soLOLGet ready as the impossible becomes possible.You heard it here first. ;)#Orbo #Steorn #OCube #Overunity

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
Demonstrations
From: Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, October 28, 2015 3:22 pm
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

So, anyone excited at all for the Steorn O-Cube webinar starting today?starts in 13+ hours, at http://app.webinarjam.net/register/19428/91401be0a7On 22 October 2015 at 23:54, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:No joy.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone- Reply message -From: "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>Subject: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product DemonstrationsDate: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 3:43 PMTerry, try this - the video is therehttps://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown <cr...@overunity.co> wrote: > > Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their > O-Cube > > ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4  Returns "This Video is Private".  http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1  -- ---http://twitter.com/esaruohohttp://lackluster.bandcamp.com  -- ---http://twitter.com/esaruohohttp://lackluster.bandcamp.com  

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Craig Brown]

Hi Esa,Yep, they announced on their Facebook page today that they would reveal the price during the Live webinar.I honestly have no idea of the price, but I can't see it being out of reach of the pockets of normal members of the public. After all, this is an attempt to sell a consumer grade electrical product.A very unique and valuable consumer grade product that ignores the 2nd law of thermodynamics, I'll grant you that.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
Demonstrations
From: esa ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, October 28, 2015 3:41 pm
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Wow Craig, just read that the price of the O-Cube will be revealed today!I sincerely hope it's in the 100s to the 200 euros, rather than 500-1000-2000+ euros. as I seriously could maybe afford that if it's <200€.maybe.http://freeenergy.news/steorn-orbo/o-cube-price-to-be-revealed-as-steorn-webinars-begin/ ---| Esa Ruoho | +358403703659 | http://fi.linkedin.com/in/esaruoho || http://lackluster.bandcamp.com | http://lackluster.org | http://esaruoho.tumblr.com || http://twitter.com/esaruoho | http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial |  On 28 Oct 2015, at 07:37, Craig Brown <cr...@overunity.co> wrote:Personally, I'm VERY excited and it's been a long time coming, but worth the wait.Been following the lads at Steorn since 2006.Enjoying the build-up to it immensely.I think it's interesting that no one is talking about Steorn just now, but in a week or soLOLGet ready as the impossible becomes possible.You heard it here first. ;)#Orbo #Steorn #OCube #Overunity   Original Message  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations From: Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, October 28, 2015 3:22 pm To: vortex-l@eskimo.com  So, anyone excited at all for the Steorn O-Cube webinar starting today?starts in 13+ hours, at http://app.webinarjam.net/register/19428/91401be0a7On 22 October 2015 at 23:54, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:No joy.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone- Reply message -From: "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>Subject: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product DemonstrationsDate: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 3:43 PMTerry, try this - the video is therehttps://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown <cr...@overunity.co> wrote: > > Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their > O-Cube > > ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4  Returns "This Video is Private".  http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1  -- ---http://twitter.com/esaruohohttp://lackluster.bandcamp.com  -- ---http://twitter.com/esaruohohttp://lackluster.bandcamp.com

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:
>
> Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their
> O-Cube
>
> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4

Returns "This Video is Private".

http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Esa Ruoho]

Terry, try this - the video is there
https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/

On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:
> >
> > Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring
> their
> > O-Cube
> >
> > ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4
>
> Returns "This Video is Private".
>
> http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1
>
>


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RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Craig Brown]

Apparently the PRGurus behind the video weren't happy. They politely asked it be removed from view leaving the Facebook version to be the sole source of the video. I can understand that, considering what they want to achieve.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
Demonstrations
From: Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, October 23, 2015 5:30 am
To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" <vortex-l@eskimo.com>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown <cr...@overunity.co> wrote:
>
> Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their
> O-Cube
>
> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4

Returns "This Video is Private".

http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

No joy.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Esa Ruoho" 
To: 
Subject: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations
Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 3:43 PM

Terry, try this - the video is 
therehttps://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/


On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton  wrote:
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:

>

> Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their

> O-Cube

>

> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4



Returns "This Video is Private".



http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1






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[Craig Brown]

Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their O-Cubettps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4


 Original Message 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
Demonstrations
From: "Craig Brown" <cr...@overunity.co>
Date: Tue, September 29, 2015 2:54 pm
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Bit of News for you...Steorn will conduct a series of LIVE interactive Webinars beginning on October 28th.The webinars are an introduction to their free energy technology Orbo Powercube.They will demo the tech, explain how the components work and field questions.Link to register for the FREE Live webinar is in the article.http://freeenergy.news/steorn/exclusive-live-steorn-webinars-on-orbo-powercube/Cheers,CraigFreeEnergy.News   

RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[esa ruoho]

Hi Craig + list..

Anyone tuning into this webinar? I know I'll be there with bells on. I have not 
heard back from Orbo/Shaun McCarthy re: what it actually sounds like when it 
charges. Been trying to reach out to them. I hope it's not loud.

>Bit of News for you...
>Steorn will conduct a series of LIVE interactive Webinars beginning on October 
>28th.
>The webinars are an introduction to their free energy technology Orbo 
>Powercube.
>They will demo the tech, explain how the components work and field questions.
>Link to register for the FREE Live webinar is in the article.
>http://freeenergy.news/steorn/exclusive-live-steorn-webinars-on-orbo-powercube/

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[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Hi Esa,

 

I'm sure many Vorts remain curious about the further adventures of Steorn
and Mr. McCarthy. I confess, I still am one of the curious.

 

While I remain suitably cautious, and perhaps just a tad suspicions as well,
I look forward to further developments. How will they "spin" the ORBO this
time around. ;-)

 

Steve

 

From: esa ruoho [mailto:esaru...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 2:57 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
Demonstrations

 

Hi Craig + list..

 

Anyone tuning into this webinar? I know I'll be there with bells on. I have
not heard back from Orbo/Shaun McCarthy re: what it actually sounds like
when it charges. Been trying to reach out to them. I hope it's not loud.

 

>Bit of News for you...

>Steorn will conduct a series of LIVE interactive Webinars beginning on
October 28th.

>The webinars are an introduction to their free energy technology Orbo
Powercube.

>They will demo the tech, explain how the components work and field
questions.

>Link to register for the FREE Live webinar is in the article.

>http://freeenergy.news/steorn/exclusive-live-steorn-webinars-on-orbo-powerc
ube/

 

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Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Esa Ruoho]

I wish they would just roll out pre-orders. I mean, I'm ready to save up
for the Steorn Orbo and the ADGEX Tachyon - if either of them charge an
iPhone, an iPad or a MacBookPro, I'm super-ultra-keen. Just really need to
finally get my mittens on something that does something, instead of full of
hot-air PDFs and promises and soon-comes of 10kw this and 500kw that and
2mw the other.

"Just do useful work". Charging an iPhone is useful work. If it's done via
free energy then that's awesome. LENR/CANR, even better. Anything. H2Elec .
Just a simple product, you know? Too much to ask for, I guess..


On 12 October 2015 at 17:52, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi Esa,
>
>
>
> I'm sure many Vorts remain curious about the further adventures of Steorn
> and Mr. McCarthy. I confess, I still am one of the curious.
>
>
>
> While I remain suitably cautious, and perhaps just a tad suspicions as
> well, I look forward to further developments. How will they "spin" the ORBO
> this time around. ;-)
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* esa ruoho [mailto:esaru...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 2:57 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
> Demonstrations
>
>
>
> Hi Craig + list..
>
>
>
> Anyone tuning into this webinar? I know I'll be there with bells on. I
> have not heard back from Orbo/Shaun McCarthy re: what it actually sounds
> like when it charges. Been trying to reach out to them. I hope it's not
> loud.
>
>
>
> >Bit of News for you...
>
> >Steorn will conduct a series of LIVE interactive Webinars beginning on
> October 28th.
>
> >The webinars are an introduction to their free energy technology Orbo
> Powercube.
>
> >They will demo the tech, explain how the components work and field
> questions.
>
> >Link to register for the FREE Live webinar is in the article.
>
> >
> http://freeenergy.news/steorn/exclusive-live-steorn-webinars-on-orbo-powercube/
>
>
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[Craig Brown]

Bit of News for you...Steorn will conduct a series of LIVE interactive Webinars beginning on October 28th.The webinars are an introduction to their free energy technology Orbo Powercube.They will demo the tech, explain how the components work and field questions.Link to register for the FREE Live webinar is in the article.http://freeenergy.news/steorn/exclusive-live-steorn-webinars-on-orbo-powercube/Cheers,CraigFreeEnergy.News