Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-03 Thread Axil Axil
This may be the reason why nanoplamonic experimentation is usually done
using gold. Nickel is very reactive.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:

 My guess is that these are the hardest to remove from circulating air.
 - probably it's better to keep them in a confined chamber when preparing a
 colloid.  I am not sure whether they penetrate skin.


 I suspect that another problem is with nickel, specifically.  I had a
 watch with a nickel wristband at one point, and I gradually developed a
 severe and chronic rash.  There was a welt on my wrist for several months
 after I stopped wearing the watch.  So the nanopowder nickel particles
 could potentially cause a great deal of irritation in the lungs and a
 powerful immune response as a result.

 Eric




Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Teslaalset
Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed Constantan
wires during the conversations I had. This might be related.

So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you
called 'type 2')?


Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III
If Rossi actually knows something, he needs to document his process as 
carefully as possible and directly help others to reproduce his work.


If his work can actually be reproduced, that would be groundbreaking, 
magnificent.


If he doesn't help others to reproduce his work, and no one can 
reproduce his work... then his name will die and no one will care.


- Joe



Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joseph S. Barrera III j...@barrera.org wrote:

If Rossi actually knows something, he needs to document his process as
 carefully as possible and directly help others to reproduce his work.


That would be a patent. What you are describing is a patent. It protects
the owner's intellectual property. Storms and others suspect that Rossi
does not understand his device well enough to write a patent that will hold
up to challenges. The patents he has filed so far seem worthless to me.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
 I think that QuantumSphere can make a good nickel nanoparticle.

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/nano.html

I would try this particle to start off with

Get product info


https://portal.luxresearchinc.com/research/profile_excerpt/QuantumSphere

Then I would ask them to make a five micro nanoparticle that looks like a
sea


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Sea*_*urchin*




On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed Constantan
 wires during the conversations I had. This might be related.

 So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you
 called 'type 2')?




Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread pagnucco
Axil,

Don't forget this is dangerous stuff for the amateur.
Google nickel nanoparticles danger
- You will find references like -
Nickel Nanoparticles Favor Development of Cancer
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nickel-Nanoparticles-Favor-Development-of-Cancer-218239.shtml
Nickel Nanoparticles may be Harmful say Researchers
http://www.nanotechnologydevelopment.com/medical/nickel-nanoparticles-may-be-harmful-say-researchers.html


Axil wrote:
  I think that QuantumSphere can make a good nickel nanoparticle.

 http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/nano.html

 I would try this particle to start off with

 Get product info


 https://portal.luxresearchinc.com/research/profile_excerpt/QuantumSphere

 Then I would ask them to make a five micro nanoparticle that looks like a
 sea


 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Sea*_*urchin*




 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Teslaalset
 robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed Constantan
 wires during the conversations I had. This might be related.

 So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you
 called 'type 2')?







Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread David Roberson
In an emergency situation can a strong magnet pull most of these from the room 
air?  If so, it might be wise to keep one handy when running experiments with 
nickel powder.


Dave



-Original Message-
From: pagnucco pagnu...@htdconnect.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.


Axil,

Don't forget this is dangerous stuff for the amateur.
Google nickel nanoparticles danger
- You will find references like -
Nickel Nanoparticles Favor Development of Cancer
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nickel-Nanoparticles-Favor-Development-of-Cancer-218239.shtml
Nickel Nanoparticles may be Harmful say Researchers
http://www.nanotechnologydevelopment.com/medical/nickel-nanoparticles-may-be-harmful-say-researchers.html


Axil wrote:
  I think that QuantumSphere can make a good nickel nanoparticle.

 http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/nano.html

 I would try this particle to start off with

 Get product info


 https://portal.luxresearchinc.com/research/profile_excerpt/QuantumSphere

 Then I would ask them to make a five micro nanoparticle that looks like a
 sea


 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Sea*_*urchin*




 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Teslaalset
 robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed Constantan
 wires during the conversations I had. This might be related.

 So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you
 called 'type 2')?






 


Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
I am not discussing using nano-particles. I am recommending MICRO-particles
with a nanowire coating. Yes, these can be dangerous if you breath them in.
But it is not easy to breath these big particles in. A dust mask will
protect from this danger.

5 microns is the grits size of 1000 grit sanding paper.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:

 Axil,

 Don't forget this is dangerous stuff for the amateur.
 Google nickel nanoparticles danger
 - You will find references like -
 Nickel Nanoparticles Favor Development of Cancer

 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nickel-Nanoparticles-Favor-Development-of-Cancer-218239.shtml
 Nickel Nanoparticles may be Harmful say Researchers

 http://www.nanotechnologydevelopment.com/medical/nickel-nanoparticles-may-be-harmful-say-researchers.html


 Axil wrote:
   I think that QuantumSphere can make a good nickel nanoparticle.
 
  http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/nano.html
 
  I would try this particle to start off with
 
  Get product info
 
 
  https://portal.luxresearchinc.com/research/profile_excerpt/QuantumSphere
 
  Then I would ask them to make a five micro nanoparticle that looks like a
  sea
 
 
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Sea*_*urchin*
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Teslaalset
  robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed Constantan
  wires during the conversations I had. This might be related.
 
  So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you
  called 'type 2')?
 
 
 





Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread pagnucco
Dave,

The literature indicates that the smaller the particle, the more dangerous
it may be due to larger surface area/volume ratio.

My guess is that these are the hardest to remove from circulating air.
- probably it's better to keep them in a confined chamber when preparing a
colloid.  I am not sure whether they penetrate skin.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Dave Roberson wrote:
 In an emergency situation can a strong magnet pull most of these from the
 room air?  If so, it might be wise to keep one handy when running
 experiments with nickel powder.


 Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: pagnucco pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 3:32 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.


 Axil,

 Don't forget this is dangerous stuff for the amateur.
 Google nickel nanoparticles danger
 - You will find references like -
 Nickel Nanoparticles Favor Development of Cancer
 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nickel-Nanoparticles-Favor-Development-of-Cancer-218239.shtml
 Nickel Nanoparticles may be Harmful say Researchers
 http://www.nanotechnologydevelopment.com/medical/nickel-nanoparticles-may-be-harmful-say-researchers.html


 Axil wrote:
  I think that QuantumSphere can make a good nickel nanoparticle.

 http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/3.08/nano.html

 I would try this particle to start off with

 Get product info


 https://portal.luxresearchinc.com/research/profile_excerpt/QuantumSphere

 Then I would ask them to make a five micro nanoparticle that looks like
 a
 sea


 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Sea*_*urchin*




 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Teslaalset
 robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Celani often mentioned 'sintering' a problem in his processed
 Constantan
 wires during the conversations I had. This might be related.

 So, what would be a good process to make suitable nano nickel (as you
 called 'type 2')?












Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Teslaalset
I just wonder whether crystalization / re-crystalization of the nickel do
overrule the initial particle structures.
Since Rossi indicates that shuting down an e-cat takes a few hours,
probably due to overcooling, leaves the heated nickel in an amorfhous form.
It may even be that the nickel needs to be specifically in an amorphous or
in a crysteline form to allow starting up the extra heat generation.


Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Axil Axil
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just wonder whether crystalization / re-crystalization of the nickel do
 overrule the initial particle structures.


No. DGT says that there is a great increase in boron and beryllium near the
NAE. So material composition of the NAE is not important.



 Since Rossi indicates that shuting down an e-cat takes a few hours,
 probably due to overcooling, leaves the heated nickel in an amorfhous form.


 This brings up and interesting comparison between the Rossi reactor and
the DGT reactor.

Rossi runs his reactor very close to criticality because he uses heat to
produce electrons on the surface of his powder. The powder must be charged
like a capacitor.

DGT runs a subcritical electron powder charge. They use spark discharge to
increase the charge concentration on the surface of their micro-powder.
They pulse the spark at an optimum rate to get their micro powder to
criticality.

Because the DGT powder is sub-critical, DGT can stop it easily by not
adding charge to the powder surface when it is required.

Stopping electron recharge stops the DGT reaction is short order. As an
option, they can also reduce the pressure of the dielectric gas to increase
the release of electric charge from the surface of the powder.


 It may even be that the nickel needs to be specifically in an amorphous or
 in a crysteline form to allow starting up the extra heat generation.


The detailed composition of the nanowires in and close to the NAE is not
important. There is substantial transmutation in and near the NAE produced
by the nanowire.

However, the dipole character of the micro powder is important.

Transmutation does not occur very far from the NAE so charges in the
character of nickel in the bulk of the micro-powder do not happen.


Re: [Vo]:Poor nano-powder design is your problem.

2013-05-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:

My guess is that these are the hardest to remove from circulating air.
 - probably it's better to keep them in a confined chamber when preparing a
 colloid.  I am not sure whether they penetrate skin.


I suspect that another problem is with nickel, specifically.  I had a watch
with a nickel wristband at one point, and I gradually developed a severe
and chronic rash.  There was a welt on my wrist for several months after I
stopped wearing the watch.  So the nanopowder nickel particles could
potentially cause a great deal of irritation in the lungs and a powerful
immune response as a result.

Eric