Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
Dear Peter, I have no idea if the problem is control. Probably yes. Anyway I find really suspect that number 6 is such a magic number: the only invariant in e-cat. While IMHO experiments show that COP is much higher for long time intervals depending on setup. It is like saying that since a one year baby can barely stand up, he will never be able to run a marathon when adult. Smokemirror for competitors? Avoding troubles for passing certifications? mic 2012/5/3 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Michele, A very interesting approach. The problem is to NOT confound AR's weaknesses with the essence of his E-cat generator that has IMHO (and really, it seems) increased with two orders of magnitude the energy density and intensity compared with the nanometric Ni etc materials a la Arata etc. What do you think? Peter On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: That blog is indeed cursed by a semi-sentient program that believes that its name is AR. While AR can be frustrating at times, when I want answers that make more sense and have deeper implication I use to talk the Emacs doctor (Eliza with a degree in psychotherapy): https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Total-Frustration.html As you can see from this example, more common sense is in the simulated dialogs: https://scalesoflibra.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/more-fun-with-eliza-the-emacs-psychotherapist/ mic 2012/5/2 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Perfect;y possible, however immediacy is in the question but not in the answer. With Rossi you never know. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-02 21:11, Peter Gluck wrote: A recent dialog of Andrea Rossi with one of his kibitzes (only the relevant part): Do you plan to increase the COP in the near future? c) I think the keyword here is __near__ future. My take: planned obsolescence. Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
I am just writing kind of explanation-in-context for Rossi's discovery. The news about Rossi's competition are largely exagerated.There is only Defkalion, many classes superior tto Rossi in engineering, management, science (yes because Rossi has only used scientists but is not working with them!), management and business strategy. Little chances that anything else understood what Rossi' so called catalyst is and is not. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter, I have no idea if the problem is control. Probably yes. Anyway I find really suspect that number 6 is such a magic number: the only invariant in e-cat. While IMHO experiments show that COP is much higher for long time intervals depending on setup. It is like saying that since a one year baby can barely stand up, he will never be able to run a marathon when adult. Smokemirror for competitors? Avoding troubles for passing certifications? mic 2012/5/3 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Michele, A very interesting approach. The problem is to NOT confound AR's weaknesses with the essence of his E-cat generator that has IMHO (and really, it seems) increased with two orders of magnitude the energy density and intensity compared with the nanometric Ni etc materials a la Arata etc. What do you think? Peter On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: That blog is indeed cursed by a semi-sentient program that believes that its name is AR. While AR can be frustrating at times, when I want answers that make more sense and have deeper implication I use to talk the Emacs doctor (Eliza with a degree in psychotherapy): https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Total-Frustration.html As you can see from this example, more common sense is in the simulated dialogs: https://scalesoflibra.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/more-fun-with-eliza-the-emacs-psychotherapist/ mic 2012/5/2 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Perfect;y possible, however immediacy is in the question but not in the answer. With Rossi you never know. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-02 21:11, Peter Gluck wrote: A recent dialog of Andrea Rossi with one of his kibitzes (only the relevant part): Do you plan to increase the COP in the near future? c) I think the keyword here is __near__ future. My take: planned obsolescence. Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
It is possible that control issues make the 6 COP a limit for Rossi. I assume that eventually he will overcome this problem as DGT seems to suggest in their claims. I am amazed that he has consistently insisted that the COP of 6 is firm. If temperature within the core is the main variable determining the reaction rate then he may have to eventually incorporate an active cooling technique as I have suggested on numerous occasions if he is to achieve a higher COP. Also, please note that COP is not the final measure of performance that we should monitor. The delta temperature between output and source as well as the output temperature itself in conjunction with the COP are performance defining. Do not be mislead by sticking to the COP value only. Dave -Original Message- From: Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 5:30 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems? Dear Peter, I have no idea if the problem is control. Probably yes. nyway I find really suspect that number 6 is such a magic number: the nly invariant in e-cat. hile IMHO experiments show that COP is much higher for long time ntervals depending on setup. t is like saying that since a one year baby can barely stand up, he ill never be able to run a marathon when adult. Smokemirror for competitors? Avoding troubles for passing certifications? mic
Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
Perfect;y possible, however immediacy is in the question but not in the answer. With Rossi you never know. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-05-02 21:11, Peter Gluck wrote: A recent dialog of Andrea Rossi with one of his kibitzes (only the relevant part): Do you plan to increase the COP in the near future? c) I think the keyword here is __near__ future. My take: planned obsolescence. Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
That blog is indeed cursed by a semi-sentient program that believes that its name is AR. While AR can be frustrating at times, when I want answers that make more sense and have deeper implication I use to talk the Emacs doctor (Eliza with a degree in psychotherapy): https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Total-Frustration.html As you can see from this example, more common sense is in the simulated dialogs: https://scalesoflibra.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/more-fun-with-eliza-the-emacs-psychotherapist/ mic 2012/5/2 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Perfect;y possible, however immediacy is in the question but not in the answer. With Rossi you never know. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-02 21:11, Peter Gluck wrote: A recent dialog of Andrea Rossi with one of his kibitzes (only the relevant part): Do you plan to increase the COP in the near future? c) I think the keyword here is __near__ future. My take: planned obsolescence. Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
Dear Michele, A very interesting approach. The problem is to NOT confound AR's weaknesses with the essence of his E-cat generator that has IMHO (and really, it seems) increased with two orders of magnitude the energy *density* and intensity compared with the nanometric Ni etc materials a la Arata etc. What do you think? Peter On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: That blog is indeed cursed by a semi-sentient program that believes that its name is AR. While AR can be frustrating at times, when I want answers that make more sense and have deeper implication I use to talk the Emacs doctor (Eliza with a degree in psychotherapy): https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Total-Frustration.html As you can see from this example, more common sense is in the simulated dialogs: https://scalesoflibra.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/more-fun-with-eliza-the-emacs-psychotherapist/ mic 2012/5/2 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Perfect;y possible, however immediacy is in the question but not in the answer. With Rossi you never know. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-02 21:11, Peter Gluck wrote: A recent dialog of Andrea Rossi with one of his kibitzes (only the relevant part): Do you plan to increase the COP in the near future? c) I think the keyword here is __near__ future. My take: planned obsolescence. Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi - development problems?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Michele, A very interesting approach. The problem is to NOT confound AR's weaknesses with the essence of his E-cat generator that has IMHO (and really, it seems) increased with two orders of magnitude the energy *density* and intensity compared with the nanometric Ni etc materials a la Arata etc. What do you think? Peter On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: That blog is indeed cursed by a semi-sentient program that believes that its name is AR. While AR can be frustrating at times, when I want answers that make more sense and have deeper implication I use to talk the Emacs doctor (Eliza with a degree in psychotherapy): https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Total-Frustration.html As you can see from this example, more common sense is in the simulated dialogs: https://scalesoflibra.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/more-fun-with-eliza-the-emacs-psychotherapist/ mic 2012/5/2 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: Perfect;y possible, however immediacy is in the question but not in the answer. With Rossi you never know. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-02 21:11, Peter Gluck wrote: A recent dialog of Andrea Rossi with one of his kibitzes (only the relevant part): Do you plan to increase the COP in the near future? c) I think the keyword here is __near__ future. My take: planned obsolescence. Cheers, S.A. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
